It is crazy to me that Jomboy, someone who is explaining cricket to baseball fans, is doing more and showing more highlights of the cricket world cup than the ICC on youtube.
bro jimmy is so fucking funny, man. just the pause between him saying it and the way he says cartoon bad guy and immediately jumps to the next thing. my god
For both cricket and baseball you do a great job of explaining the tension and context that makes these moments so fascinating for experienced/knowledgeable viewers.
How? He didn't explain anything that was going on in a way that makes sense for anyone but experienced/knowledgeable viewers. What the hell is a wide or a dot ball for instance? Why does he say "that's a run" when none of the players even moved in the play?
@@HairySack98 Jomboy has lots of videos out there explaining cricket in baseball terms, and he still uses terms to some degree that are intended for a north American audience, but he cant break down every rule in every video it would be obnoxious and destroy the flow of the narrative. If you are that interested you have the tools to find htis information yourself. The point here is hes selling us the narrative of the match, and thats something sportsfans of any stripe can understand even if you don't know the rules of the sport. A dot ball is a delivery from a bowler (pitcher) which scores 0 runs. Marked on a scoresheet as a dot. This is a good delivery for the bowler. A wide is a delivery that is considered too far from the stumps to be playable by the battsman, it awards the batting team 1 run and the bowler must deliver the ball again, it doesnt count toward the alotted 6 delivers for the over. A run is what points are called in cricket. A run is awarded when the ball is hit into play and the 2 batsmen are able to run between the wickets and change positions, this is one run. However runs can be scored as above if a wide is delivered (or no ball, an illegal delivery). They can also be scored if the batsman hits the ball to the boundary (4 automatic runs) or over the boundary (6 authomatic runs) without needing to phsically run for those points
Love your all the break downs Jim! I'm actually South African and learnt baseball from you, went to the Fenway Park the other day, epic!! Fun Fact, Labuschagne is actually of South African heritage! It would be cool if you did a breakdown on swing bowling in a Test Match and why the fielding team shines the ball to make it swing and how the fielding team sets up the 'defense' according to the Swing! Just a thought, keep it going!
There are so many great South African athletes in sports around the world. I used to work for a minor league baseball team and there was a guy on one of the other teams from South Africa. That was a surprise to see on the roster!
This is exactly why I suggest everyone of you to watch test cricket. It might not have 90mph speed like T20 does but the contest between the batsman and the bowler is so much fun.
Quinton de Kock's keeping is magnificent here. Taking those deliveries down the leg side is so tough since he's partially obscured by the batter's body. I've tried it and missed so many.
Cricket breakdowns are awesome. And I understand them. And I feel like you're single handedly just culturing us for the better. Thank you for learning me a thing or two
Btw the wides are because they are on the leg side. Anything down leg is much more harshly deemed a wide than the other side (offside) to discourage negative bowling
Definitely curious if Sergino Dest's red card (and blow up with teammates) in last night's USMNT game against Trinidad has enough artifacts for Jimmy to figure out what he was saying, or if he did a good job of covering his mouth to disguise it.
As a long time South African fan of your baseball videos (the Frank Thomas 3 HR video being my favourite) just super glad you made a cricket video for once with South Africa in it. If Shamsi got Labuschange (who is actually South African born) in that first over the whole world cup might have been very different. Love the video.
The T20 World Cup is in the US next year. Whether it is by design or not Jomboy is moving the needle for eyeballs on cricket in the States. ICC must be delighted. Hope you get a big cheque out of it.
It's a huge market and they aren't going to break into China I wouldn't think so the USA of course is the largest realistic market that is untapped by cricket.
@@XaviRonaldo0 the biggest growth market for both Cricket and Rugby at the moment is Africa. I just hope the ICC don't ignore places like Bangladesh, West Indies etc. Saudi Arabia are planning a domestic T20 series as well, they've certainly got the money to get people to pay attention. Not that I'll be going there to watch a match.
Love it. Really appreciated these vids throughout the tournament because there's not really anyone doing this stuff on TH-cam otherwise. Surprised you haven't covered the Angelo Mathews timed out!
Just an FYI if the ball hits the pad outside the line of off stump it’s not out. Which is what happened in this case. Also if the ball hits the bat before pad or hits the pitch outside leg stump it’s not out. Very hard to get LBW from this angle. The ball can hit the pitch outside off.
You can be out LBW if you're hit outside the line of off stump, but only if you don't play a shot at the ball. As Labuschagne was playing a shot the line was relevant.
its worth mentioning that this is only when a shot is offered. If a batter does not offer a shot, it doesn't matter if the impact is on the offside, though this is not common
Umpire's call means less than half the ball disagrees with the Umpires decision. It must be over 50% of the ball hitting the wickets to overturn. The reason the first LBW was umpires call was because the ball must hit his leg in line with the wickets to be able to call it LBW. So the fact it was going on to hit the wickets was irrelevant. Jomboy's overlay at the end was a bit confusing because the first LBW was not called on the ball hitting the wickets at all.
and for those wondering, the reason for the 50% rule is because of margin of error with the technology. The points of impact have to be decided manually by the review system crew which is complex as the ball is usually hitting the pads or another curved/non-flat surface and the impact can occur between frames on the camera replay. There are also unknowns about the projected trajectory due to other environmental variables, so >50% has been decided as the acceptable minimum
Nope, the points of impact are determined automatically by the computer system not by the review system crew. It's pretty easy to determine the impact point as @@mission101
The umpire's call at 2:15 is because part of the ball has to be hitting the batter within the line of the stumps to be given out. A tiny fraction of the ball is hitting the batter within the line of the stumps, so that's an umpires call (if more than half of the ball is in line, then the review would have given it out). An exception is if the batter is playing no shot, then they can be out if the ball hits them outside the off stump. Outside of the leg stump is never out
Just as a little tidbit Marnus Labuschagne was born in South Africa and moved to Australia at the age of 10. He wasn't even fluent in english when he moved.
The type of spin off spin/leg spin is not dependent on the direction of the spin but the action of the bowler. If it comes over your index finger it's off spin and if it comes from the pinky finger side of you hand it's leg spin. Thus leg spin in this case
It's more easily classifiable by using the method of spin. If a bowler is using his fingers to spin the bowl then he'll be called a left/right arm finger spinner. Similarly, the other case is left/right arm wrist spinner will one who uses his wrist for spinning. This particular bowler, however, is not a leg spinner, rather he is called "chinaman". Why it's called that 🤷♂️. Better to call him a left arm wrist spinner.
@@suleimanhaider5716yes but a finger spinner uses their index finger to impart spin and a wrist spinner uses their ring finger. They are both still using their finger but a wrist spinner uses a crooked wrist where a finger spinner uses a more conventional action. Even a traditional googly acts like a finger/off spin delivery but you still use your ring finger to impart the spin whilst having a crooked wrist. The wrist position is what determines the direction of spin here.
For left handed bowlers its generally orthodox or unorthodox. I believe in this case it is unorthodox as it turns across the body of the bowler (such does leg spin for a right handed bowler)
@@Stephens_Rocket Shamsi's bowling style is called "left-arm chinaman" (also called "left-arm unorthodox" more recently because of the earlier term could be considered racist). I suppose the term leg-spin is used exclusively for right-arm wrist spinners.
Yeah but the tiny little detail missing with the first LBW decision is the ball struck Marnus fractionally OUTSIDE THE LINE of off stump. It was actually a really good call from the ump, even if the ball was going on to hit the stumps, there was definitely doubt about whether the ball struck his pad whilst in line with off-stump and whenever there's doubt ... the rule is it's not out. Second LBW was marginal but close enough to be confirmed by the replay system. A fantastic breakdown Jimmy of a really excellent battle between the guile of the left arm "Chinaman" leg-spin/wrist spin bowler Shamsi and the Aussie boys. (PS. I know it can be confusing :) even for many cricket fans!)
Australia have won 5 of the last 7 ODI World Cups. It's their 6th overall. No other nation has won more than 2. Undoubtedly the best cricketing nation overall and it's not even their most popular sport anymore.
In general there are two ways to spin the ball as a spin-bowler, which are finger-spin and wrist-spin. In finger-spin the ball is released from the front of the hand and the spin on the ball is generated by flicking the fingers across the ball. In wrist-spin the ball is released from the back of the hand and the spin is generated by rolling the wrist. So considering there are left-hand and right-hand bowlers, we now have these 4 possible combinations. 1) Right arm finger spin: This is called "off-spin". The ball turns in to a right-hand batter, and turns away from a left-hand batter. 2) Right arm wrist spin: This is called "leg-spin". The ball turns away from a right-hand batter, and turns in to a left-hand batter. 3) Left arm finger spin: This is called "left-arm orthodox". The ball turns away from a right-hand batter, and turns in to a left-hand batter. 4) Left arm wrist spin: This is called "left-arm chinaman". (Yes, I understand that's a racist term in most places, but still used in cricket. It has a rather interesting history in cricket which you should lookup). The ball turns in to a right-hand batter, and turns away from a left-hand batter. This is the type of spin Shamsi is bowling. This is also the rarest form of spin-bowling in cricket. Skilled bowlers are also capable of bowling a change-up by making the ball turn the other direction from their stock ball by changing their wrist and finger positions. For example, an off-spin bowler can bowl a change-up (called a "doosra") where the ball turns away from a right-hand batter or a leg-spin bowler can bowl a change-up (called a "googly") where the ball turns in to a right-hand batter.
I have a deep love for the South African cricket team. I have been a huge supporter since I was born. I am proud of our world cup performance. I have huge respect for the talent of Shamsi. I am also embarrassed how he behaves on the field. No respect at all.
The wrist position at the moment of delivery tells you if he's an off spinner or leg spinner. He's a leg spin bowler here and the wrist is almost parallel to the ground and the ball spinning from off to leg stump for a left hand bowler means he's a wrist or leg spin bowler. Thanks for awesome content!
I agree with everything you have mentioned about his wrist action and the type of spin the ball takes. But the term "leg-spin bowler" is used exclusively for a right-arm wrist spinner. Shamsi's bowling style would be called "left-arm chinaman" or "left-arm unorthodox".
You would be correct but leg-side/off-side is determined by the batters' perspective, not the bowlers. The usual terminology for left-handed bowlers are orthodox and unorthodox.
For anyone still confused like Jimmy on what off-spin/leg-spin/wrist spin is, general rule of thumb. If its an off-spinner most likely they will turn the ball into the batter playing with the same dominant hand (e.g right arm bowler to right arm batter), leg spin or wrist spin will do the opposite and go away from the batter. But there are variations that can do the opposite too like the googly. Wrist spinners use their wrist to impart revs like Shamsi, while finger spinners use their fingers to impart revs like Ashwin.
Cricket fan here. What makes this funnier is that you don't know what you're talking about half the time, in what you say about the terminology and rules.
2:20 that impact has to be in line with the stumps, it wasn't. Although it would've gone on to hit the stumps, the ball didn't make contact with the batter's legs in line with the stumps. those are the rules
Just for the record Shamsi is a Left Arm Leg Spinner so basically Left Arm version of Adam Zampa a more technical term for Shamsi's type of bowl is "Left Arm Unorthodox" Labuschange is also of South African heritage having moved to Australia when he was very young.
A simple explanation for the type of spin bowling is if a bowlers normal delivery comes out the front of the hand its off spin ( or finger spin). If a bowlers normal delivery comes out the back of the hand its leg spin ( or wrist spin).
Nice post, Jomboy, but as a couple of comments have pointed out, your analysis of the two LBW reviews is not quite right. The "umpire's call" decisions in the two reviews related to two different things. It's hard to do in a couple of sentences so for anyone interested, I'll spell it out a little. The three "red lights" are for these three points. (1) Pitching: the ball must not pitch outside the leg stump. Otherwise the batter cannot be LBW. (2) Impact: this is the impact of the ball on the pad/leg/body (not on the wickets). It must happen in a line between the two sets of stumps, otherwise the batter cannot be LBW. The exception is if the batter plays no shot, then (2) becomes irrelevant. (3) Wickets: the ball must be going on to hit the wickets. In the earlier LBW decision at 2:22 the replay said the "Impact" was too close to call, and so went back to the umpire's decision which was not out. The fact that it would've hit the wickets is irrelevant. In the second LBW at 6:40, it was the "Wickets" that was too close to call, and went back to the umpire. In that case the umpire had called out, so it stood. So, at 7:25 the right-hand freeze-frame is the wrong frame. I hope that helps.
This is classic spin bowling strategy. Shane Warne was the best at moving a batsman from the leg side towards the off stump and then bowl him a flipper (back spin) to either bowl the batsman or get him LBW.
Just for you info Jomboy, for spin bowlers to get an LBW, the ball has to make impact inline with stumps also (umpires call in this case, it was just in line). Silly rule considering spin, but that's they was it is.
Please cover the final too. It might require a bit more in depth knowledge on how Aus outsmarted the home team to win the final but it'd be a nice to see how much of you understand too
The LBW law is rather technical. It isn't just if the ball hits the batsman and would have hit the stumps. There are 3 main criteria. 1. The ball can not pitch outside leg stump. 2. The ball must strike the batsman in line with the stumps (unless the batsman doesn't attempt to play a shot) 3. The ball would have hit the stumps if it didn't hit the batsman. In this example it wasn't clear if the ball hit the batsman in line of the stumps. There is an error margin applied with the ball tracking technology. When it's not definitive based on this error margin they side with the umpires original decision.
Don’t use the term “throw” when the bowler bowls the ball. If the bowler bowls a ball with a bent elbow as he delivers the ball, it is classified as a no ball (throwing) and has to be bowled again and one run to the batting side. If some was watching American football and called a touch down as “TRY”, American football fans would point out the incorrect term for a touch down. When the ball has been give some air when bowled, the term is “flight”.
You need to do Adam gilchrist 2nd fastest 100 in text cricket u need to watch it bro p.s loving your vids and this is coming from life long cricket nut
Really glad to see you take on cricket commentary. Half my family are Aussies and I watch all I can, but the replay feeds we get here in the states and on TH-cam really suck big time. TERRIBLE commentary and almost no replays at all.
"Umpires call" is basically NFL's "call stands as called" - because they didn't have enough to overturn it, or in this case the ball not hitting the stumps enough to over turn the onfield call
I’m so interested in this technology that can measure whether it would/wouldn’t have hit the wickets. How accurate can that be? If so, why have we not seen something like this implemented in the minors ofMLB yet?
its fairly accurate, the best we got at the moment. The idea of umpires call is basically that if over half the ball is not in line/hitting the wicket, then its umpires call. Its basically saying that technology isn't perfect, so well trust the umpire in this case
It's generally considered accurate to within the same distance as the radius of the ball. I might be biased is correct - Hawkeye (which is used to tell whether the ball was in or out in tennis) is based on this system cricket has been using for nearly 20 years.
the problem with baseball is they tried that and everyone hated it as a lot of pitches everyone, both pitcher and hitter, agreed on were contradicted by the robo umps, because the way that actual umps call pitches, for example, a nasty curveball that just nicks the bottom of the front of the strike zone en route to bouncing on the plate is absolutely never going to be called a strike. So the problem is the roboumps can only call according to the rules as written, and the rules as written don't reflect how people expect the game to be actually played; there's some work going on towards fixing the rules though.
Shamsi is what used to be called a "Chinaman" bowler - unorthodox spin. Because he's left-handed and basically bowling with the same action as a right-hand leg spinner bowls, he's bowling uncontrolled off spin - which means no one, batsman, bowler or keeper, know what's going to happen with the ball!
Yeah, the styles of spin are confusing. Effectively Shamsi IS an off-spinner because that's the direction the ball is going on - but leg-spinner and off-spinner are names that are only used for right handers, because left handers make the ball go in the opposite direction when they turn it. A left arm finger spinner is called the somewhat awkward Left Arm Orthodox because that's the more common style - it's easier to bowl and is seen as more effective, because it takes the ball away from a right hander which is seen as harder to play. A left arm wrist spinner, like Shamsi, who brings the ball back in is called.... a Left Arm Unorthodox. Although you'll probably see Left Arm Leg Spin or Left Arm Wrist used just as much, and other odd phrases. This is because, somehow, after an English player expressed his amazement at the ethnicity of a left arm bowler who got him out in the 30s, this style of bowling had been known as Left Arm Chinaman for nearly a century. The phrase has been quietly retired recently.
To summarize what you said: the type of spin (off or leg) is determined by the way the ball comes in for a right handed batsman for right arm spinners: off break means that it comes from the off side TOWARDS the leg leg break means that is comes from the leg side TOWARDS the off side for left arm spinners: slow left arm orthodox is the equivalent of left arm off break, as in its the same movement. This means however that it is similar to a leg break delivery to a right handed batsman left arm unorthodox, or left arm wrist is the equivalent of left arm leg break, as its the same movement a right arm leg break bowler would use, just with the left hand. This means that the ball is similar to an off spin delivery to a right handed batsman
You got to understand that batsmen play on length he didn't smash it for 4 because it was lofted, he smashed it because it was to full it was a halfvolley, then the ball after was too short so he could rock back on the backfoot
Marnus was saved because he was playing a shot and the ball hit his pads outside of the line of the stumps ( draw a line from the wickets from both ends and if he plays a shot and the ball hits the pads outside the line he can't be given out. ) even if the ball would have gone through to hit the stumps he can't be given out. If he didn't play any shot then he can be given out if the ball hit his pad and would have gone through to hit the stumps.
It is crazy to me that Jomboy, someone who is explaining cricket to baseball fans, is doing more and showing more highlights of the cricket world cup than the ICC on youtube.
It's because ICC has the highlights on their own website
He … looks like a cartoon bad guy, one of the all time best deliveries of a line by jomboy
If that guy's face doesn't become a meme...
I bust out laughing. Top tier commentary.
bro jimmy is so fucking funny, man. just the pause between him saying it and the way he says cartoon bad guy and immediately jumps to the next thing. my god
at 2:57
For both cricket and baseball you do a great job of explaining the tension and context that makes these moments so fascinating for experienced/knowledgeable viewers.
Oh wow, yeah! That's what makes him such an effective storyteller
How? He didn't explain anything that was going on in a way that makes sense for anyone but experienced/knowledgeable viewers. What the hell is a wide or a dot ball for instance? Why does he say "that's a run" when none of the players even moved in the play?
@@HairySack98 I don't think he needs to explain every rule of cricket in every video, he explains the ones that really matter
@@HairySack98 Jomboy has lots of videos out there explaining cricket in baseball terms, and he still uses terms to some degree that are intended for a north American audience, but he cant break down every rule in every video it would be obnoxious and destroy the flow of the narrative. If you are that interested you have the tools to find htis information yourself.
The point here is hes selling us the narrative of the match, and thats something sportsfans of any stripe can understand even if you don't know the rules of the sport.
A dot ball is a delivery from a bowler (pitcher) which scores 0 runs. Marked on a scoresheet as a dot. This is a good delivery for the bowler.
A wide is a delivery that is considered too far from the stumps to be playable by the battsman, it awards the batting team 1 run and the bowler must deliver the ball again, it doesnt count toward the alotted 6 delivers for the over.
A run is what points are called in cricket. A run is awarded when the ball is hit into play and the 2 batsmen are able to run between the wickets and change positions, this is one run. However runs can be scored as above if a wide is delivered (or no ball, an illegal delivery). They can also be scored if the batsman hits the ball to the boundary (4 automatic runs) or over the boundary (6 authomatic runs) without needing to phsically run for those points
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@CorbCorbin I was going to say that
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Great minds think alike, sometimes.
This sport is honestly, so wholesome. 10/10 sport
Love your all the break downs Jim! I'm actually South African and learnt baseball from you, went to the Fenway Park the other day, epic!! Fun Fact, Labuschagne is actually of South African heritage! It would be cool if you did a breakdown on swing bowling in a Test Match and why the fielding team shines the ball to make it swing and how the fielding team sets up the 'defense' according to the Swing! Just a thought, keep it going!
There are so many great South African athletes in sports around the world. I used to work for a minor league baseball team and there was a guy on one of the other teams from South Africa. That was a surprise to see on the roster!
This is exactly why I suggest everyone of you to watch test cricket. It might not have 90mph speed like T20 does but the contest between the batsman and the bowler is so much fun.
I love these low scoring matches. The struggle between bat and ball while not exactly exciting it's so interesting to watch the tactics play out.
This isn't test cricket mate its ODI
Mark Wood bowls 95mph plus in tests...
It's a 1 day match. 50 overs each, T20's are 20 overs each hence the name T20 (Twenty Twenty)
Quinton de Kock's keeping is magnificent here. Taking those deliveries down the leg side is so tough since he's partially obscured by the batter's body. I've tried it and missed so many.
Cricket breakdowns are awesome. And I understand them. And I feel like you're single handedly just culturing us for the better. Thank you for learning me a thing or two
Next level breakdown would be Steve Smith's pre delivery routine.
Something like 17 movements every time.
I never knew I would be so excited for new Cricket videos. Thank you, Jomboy Media. Please more Cricket.
Man, I'm a huge fan...I have zero idea how to play cricket or the rules but just a huge jomboy fan watching these breakdowns
Go checkout the warehouse Ball in Play league! Game 1 does a great job to explain the layout of a cricket scoreboard
Keep the cricket breakdowns coming!
Runs around like he’s got bees on him got me good 😂
Btw the wides are because they are on the leg side. Anything down leg is much more harshly deemed a wide than the other side (offside) to discourage negative bowling
Definitely curious if Sergino Dest's red card (and blow up with teammates) in last night's USMNT game against Trinidad has enough artifacts for Jimmy to figure out what he was saying, or if he did a good job of covering his mouth to disguise it.
As a long time South African fan of your baseball videos (the Frank Thomas 3 HR video being my favourite) just super glad you made a cricket video for once with South Africa in it. If Shamsi got Labuschange (who is actually South African born) in that first over the whole world cup might have been very different. Love the video.
Did you mean long-time SA fan, or long-time SA sufferer?
@@godfreypigott huh? I am a South African and I love the Baseball videos from Jomboy? What did you miss?
@@christoduplessis8177 I was referring to SA's long-term world cup record. Don't know how you related baseball or Jomboy to my comment.
The T20 World Cup is in the US next year. Whether it is by design or not Jomboy is moving the needle for eyeballs on cricket in the States. ICC must be delighted. Hope you get a big cheque out of it.
It's a huge market and they aren't going to break into China I wouldn't think so the USA of course is the largest realistic market that is untapped by cricket.
@@XaviRonaldo0 the biggest growth market for both Cricket and Rugby at the moment is Africa. I just hope the ICC don't ignore places like Bangladesh, West Indies etc. Saudi Arabia are planning a domestic T20 series as well, they've certainly got the money to get people to pay attention. Not that I'll be going there to watch a match.
That celebration for the 2nd was imitating Imran Tahir a bit who was also a leg spin bowler for South Africa. Plenty of clips of him to find.
One of the best Jomboy vids Ive seen in a while. The cartoon villain and the celebration scream are hilarious
Need to mention De Kock's keeping here. It's so hard taking those balls down the leg side.
Love it. Really appreciated these vids throughout the tournament because there's not really anyone doing this stuff on TH-cam otherwise. Surprised you haven't covered the Angelo Mathews timed out!
I would love to see Jimmy doing his baseball lip reads on the cricket videos. Love his cricket videos
Just an FYI if the ball hits the pad outside the line of off stump it’s not out. Which is what happened in this case. Also if the ball hits the bat before pad or hits the pitch outside leg stump it’s not out. Very hard to get LBW from this angle. The ball can hit the pitch outside off.
You can be out LBW if you're hit outside the line of off stump, but only if you don't play a shot at the ball. As Labuschagne was playing a shot the line was relevant.
its worth mentioning that this is only when a shot is offered. If a batter does not offer a shot, it doesn't matter if the impact is on the offside, though this is not common
Love the cricket coverage! Been on board since Ball in play league!
I'm glad South Africa finally won a cricket World Cup (via Labuschagne). NZ won one via Dan Vettori too who is on the Australian coaching staff.
nz also won in 2019, with ben stokes lol
I wanted a NZ v SA final.
Jimmy's analysis is so terrific, even more so as he's only recently started getting into the game. Total pro.
Umpire's call means less than half the ball disagrees with the Umpires decision. It must be over 50% of the ball hitting the wickets to overturn.
The reason the first LBW was umpires call was because the ball must hit his leg in line with the wickets to be able to call it LBW. So the fact it was going on to hit the wickets was irrelevant.
Jomboy's overlay at the end was a bit confusing because the first LBW was not called on the ball hitting the wickets at all.
Thank you, I didn't know that bit of the rule, I thought the "umpire's call" was in whether the ball maybe grazed the bat.
and for those wondering, the reason for the 50% rule is because of margin of error with the technology. The points of impact have to be decided manually by the review system crew which is complex as the ball is usually hitting the pads or another curved/non-flat surface and the impact can occur between frames on the camera replay. There are also unknowns about the projected trajectory due to other environmental variables, so >50% has been decided as the acceptable minimum
Nope, the points of impact are determined automatically by the computer system not by the review system crew. It's pretty easy to determine the impact point as @@mission101
Lol, he finally said Labuschagne
But he didn't even mention De Kock. :D
At the beginning I thought to myself "what position is the pink cowboy playing"
Thanks Jimmy, for these awesome cricket breakdowns. Hardly ever get to watch any here, but always enjoy your videos 🤙
Getting Maxwell out in 1 run is a huge duel.
No wonder he celebrated like that
And that too what had done with afg
Keep doing cricket, love hearing someone from outside of the regular cricket fandom talk about it
You know the bowler’s wife can’t get a word in edgewise when they’re hosting friends…
3:09 dude is literally a thumb
That ending edit of Shamsi running out of his own mouth, obviously gold.
Cartoon Bad Guy speaks to me in ways that can't be captured by the English language
The umpire's call at 2:15 is because part of the ball has to be hitting the batter within the line of the stumps to be given out. A tiny fraction of the ball is hitting the batter within the line of the stumps, so that's an umpires call (if more than half of the ball is in line, then the review would have given it out).
An exception is if the batter is playing no shot, then they can be out if the ball hits them outside the off stump. Outside of the leg stump is never out
instead of Labuschagne you can say loose bus change
Running around like he’s being chased by bees. So accurate. Lmao
Just as a little tidbit Marnus Labuschagne was born in South Africa and moved to Australia at the age of 10. He wasn't even fluent in english when he moved.
Crazy good graphics. Thanks for breaking down cricket for us Americans. 👍
The review graphics are by the third umpire. Part of the game 😅
The type of spin off spin/leg spin is not dependent on the direction of the spin but the action of the bowler. If it comes over your index finger it's off spin and if it comes from the pinky finger side of you hand it's leg spin. Thus leg spin in this case
It's more easily classifiable by using the method of spin. If a bowler is using his fingers to spin the bowl then he'll be called a left/right arm finger spinner. Similarly, the other case is left/right arm wrist spinner will one who uses his wrist for spinning. This particular bowler, however, is not a leg spinner, rather he is called "chinaman". Why it's called that 🤷♂️. Better to call him a left arm wrist spinner.
@@suleimanhaider5716yes but a finger spinner uses their index finger to impart spin and a wrist spinner uses their ring finger. They are both still using their finger but a wrist spinner uses a crooked wrist where a finger spinner uses a more conventional action. Even a traditional googly acts like a finger/off spin delivery but you still use your ring finger to impart the spin whilst having a crooked wrist. The wrist position is what determines the direction of spin here.
For left handed bowlers its generally orthodox or unorthodox. I believe in this case it is unorthodox as it turns across the body of the bowler (such does leg spin for a right handed bowler)
He's a left arm leg spinner, which effectively acts as off spin to a right handed batter as it goes from left to right.
@@Stephens_Rocket Shamsi's bowling style is called "left-arm chinaman" (also called "left-arm unorthodox" more recently because of the earlier term could be considered racist). I suppose the term leg-spin is used exclusively for right-arm wrist spinners.
Yeah but the tiny little detail missing with the first LBW decision is the ball struck Marnus fractionally OUTSIDE THE LINE of off stump. It was actually a really good call from the ump, even if the ball was going on to hit the stumps, there was definitely doubt about whether the ball struck his pad whilst in line with off-stump and whenever there's doubt ... the rule is it's not out. Second LBW was marginal but close enough to be confirmed by the replay system.
A fantastic breakdown Jimmy of a really excellent battle between the guile of the left arm "Chinaman" leg-spin/wrist spin bowler Shamsi and the Aussie boys. (PS. I know it can be confusing :) even for many cricket fans!)
Background: Labuschagne is one of the best in the world (which is why they they were so excited), and was also born in South Africa ;)
Australia have won 5 of the last 7 ODI World Cups. It's their 6th overall. No other nation has won more than 2. Undoubtedly the best cricketing nation overall and it's not even their most popular sport anymore.
In general there are two ways to spin the ball as a spin-bowler, which are finger-spin and wrist-spin. In finger-spin the ball is released from the front of the hand and the spin on the ball is generated by flicking the fingers across the ball. In wrist-spin the ball is released from the back of the hand and the spin is generated by rolling the wrist. So considering there are left-hand and right-hand bowlers, we now have these 4 possible combinations.
1) Right arm finger spin: This is called "off-spin". The ball turns in to a right-hand batter, and turns away from a left-hand batter.
2) Right arm wrist spin: This is called "leg-spin". The ball turns away from a right-hand batter, and turns in to a left-hand batter.
3) Left arm finger spin: This is called "left-arm orthodox". The ball turns away from a right-hand batter, and turns in to a left-hand batter.
4) Left arm wrist spin: This is called "left-arm chinaman". (Yes, I understand that's a racist term in most places, but still used in cricket. It has a rather interesting history in cricket which you should lookup). The ball turns in to a right-hand batter, and turns away from a left-hand batter. This is the type of spin Shamsi is bowling. This is also the rarest form of spin-bowling in cricket.
Skilled bowlers are also capable of bowling a change-up by making the ball turn the other direction from their stock ball by changing their wrist and finger positions. For example, an off-spin bowler can bowl a change-up (called a "doosra") where the ball turns away from a right-hand batter or a leg-spin bowler can bowl a change-up (called a "googly") where the ball turns in to a right-hand batter.
I have a deep love for the South African cricket team. I have been a huge supporter since I was born. I am proud of our world cup performance. I have huge respect for the talent of Shamsi. I am also embarrassed how he behaves on the field. No respect at all.
Did u watch yesterdays match? He bowled very well
@@hemutitu1870 yup, he is very talented.
Love the cricket coverage
Love these videos. You should consider some vintage breakdowns like Andre Nel vs S Sreesanth, SA vs IND. Thats a classic
The wrist position at the moment of delivery tells you if he's an off spinner or leg spinner. He's a leg spin bowler here and the wrist is almost parallel to the ground and the ball spinning from off to leg stump for a left hand bowler means he's a wrist or leg spin bowler. Thanks for awesome content!
I agree with everything you have mentioned about his wrist action and the type of spin the ball takes. But the term "leg-spin bowler" is used exclusively for a right-arm wrist spinner. Shamsi's bowling style would be called "left-arm chinaman" or "left-arm unorthodox".
You would be correct but leg-side/off-side is determined by the batters' perspective, not the bowlers. The usual terminology for left-handed bowlers are orthodox and unorthodox.
Anything that is within half a ball is always umpires call. They only want to correct major errors not take away the umpires role in borderline calls
I don’t like cricket.. ..,. I love it
For anyone still confused like Jimmy on what off-spin/leg-spin/wrist spin is, general rule of thumb. If its an off-spinner most likely they will turn the ball into the batter playing with the same dominant hand (e.g right arm bowler to right arm batter), leg spin or wrist spin will do the opposite and go away from the batter. But there are variations that can do the opposite too like the googly. Wrist spinners use their wrist to impart revs like Shamsi, while finger spinners use their fingers to impart revs like Ashwin.
Nice work Jomboy! Our LBW law is only marginally less confusing than your NFL ‘what constitutes a completed reception’ law! 😂
love your cricket breakdown
One best bowling match that I've ever seen
It's umpires call if the ball is close but the technology is not perfect and it can have errors.
To a right handed batter - leg spin goes to the left/away from the batter and off spin goes to the right/ toward the batter
*Please Never Ever Stop Making Cricket Videos, Beautiful* ❤🙏
Cricket fan here. What makes this funnier is that you don't know what you're talking about half the time, in what you say about the terminology and rules.
Left arm leg spin
2:20 that impact has to be in line with the stumps, it wasn't. Although it would've gone on to hit the stumps, the ball didn't make contact with the batter's legs in line with the stumps. those are the rules
Just for the record Shamsi is a Left Arm Leg Spinner so basically Left Arm version of Adam Zampa a more technical term for Shamsi's type of bowl is "Left Arm Unorthodox"
Labuschange is also of South African heritage having moved to Australia when he was very young.
I swear cricket players wives are like a whos who of former miss universe contestants.
They make a lot of money these days
A simple explanation for the type of spin bowling is
if a bowlers normal delivery comes out the front of the hand its off spin ( or finger spin).
If a bowlers normal delivery comes out the back of the hand its leg spin ( or wrist spin).
That was one intense looking saffa in the stands.
Nice post, Jomboy, but as a couple of comments have pointed out, your analysis of the two LBW reviews is not quite right. The "umpire's call" decisions in the two reviews related to two different things. It's hard to do in a couple of sentences so for anyone interested, I'll spell it out a little.
The three "red lights" are for these three points.
(1) Pitching: the ball must not pitch outside the leg stump. Otherwise the batter cannot be LBW.
(2) Impact: this is the impact of the ball on the pad/leg/body (not on the wickets). It must happen in a line between the two sets of stumps, otherwise the batter cannot be LBW. The exception is if the batter plays no shot, then (2) becomes irrelevant.
(3) Wickets: the ball must be going on to hit the wickets.
In the earlier LBW decision at 2:22 the replay said the "Impact" was too close to call, and so went back to the umpire's decision which was not out. The fact that it would've hit the wickets is irrelevant.
In the second LBW at 6:40, it was the "Wickets" that was too close to call, and went back to the umpire. In that case the umpire had called out, so it stood.
So, at 7:25 the right-hand freeze-frame is the wrong frame.
I hope that helps.
The best minds of Africa are all working on replay tech for Cricket.
This is classic spin bowling strategy. Shane Warne was the best at moving a batsman from the leg side towards the off stump and then bowl him a flipper (back spin) to either bowl the batsman or get him LBW.
Where do you get your tapes. ICC and BCCI are very restrictive about footage use by sports commentators. Great analysis Jomboy!
Love it! would be awesome when talking about leads/numbers to know where on the score bug that's shown
Just for you info Jomboy, for spin bowlers to get an LBW, the ball has to make impact inline with stumps also (umpires call in this case, it was just in line). Silly rule considering spin, but that's they was it is.
If 50% or more of the ball is hitting the stumps then its given out, if its not it's given as umpire's call
Please cover the final too. It might require a bit more in depth knowledge on how Aus outsmarted the home team to win the final but it'd be a nice to see how much of you understand too
I really needed to see a coach run out there and tell at the ump and get ejected to feel good about it not gonna lie!
i have no idea whats going on, but i m liking the breakdown.
More cricket please!!!
The first LBW wasn't out because the point of contact was outside off stump and a shot was played.
2:59 - the father of the girl you like
I like Shamsi's wife
The LBW law is rather technical. It isn't just if the ball hits the batsman and would have hit the stumps. There are 3 main criteria.
1. The ball can not pitch outside leg stump.
2. The ball must strike the batsman in line with the stumps (unless the batsman doesn't attempt to play a shot)
3. The ball would have hit the stumps if it didn't hit the batsman.
In this example it wasn't clear if the ball hit the batsman in line of the stumps. There is an error margin applied with the ball tracking technology. When it's not definitive based on this error margin they side with the umpires original decision.
On the first Shamsi appeal, the ball has to hit in line with the wickets for the LBW to be valid.
Don’t use the term “throw” when the bowler bowls the ball.
If the bowler bowls a ball with a bent elbow as he delivers the ball, it is classified as a no ball (throwing) and has to be bowled again and one run to the batting side.
If some was watching American football and called a touch down as “TRY”, American football fans would point out the incorrect term for a touch down.
When the ball has been give some air when bowled, the term is “flight”.
I'm pretty sure you may use a bent elbow as long as there is below a certain degree of straightening of it during the delivery action.
@@XaviRonaldo0 yeah, as long as the arm does not bend 15 degrees or more from the time the ball is shoulder height, to the time the ball is released
You need to do Adam gilchrist 2nd fastest 100 in text cricket u need to watch it bro p.s loving your vids and this is coming from life long cricket nut
Really glad to see you take on cricket commentary. Half my family are Aussies and I watch all I can, but the replay feeds we get here in the states and on TH-cam really suck big time. TERRIBLE commentary and almost no replays at all.
I think the rule with the reviews is if it is predicted hitting with less than half the ball it goes to umpires call.
South African fan looks like the dude from Hey Arnold 😂😂😂
the font in the replays is really weird lol, the n looks cool 2:20
In a parallel universe, marnus is captaining this south African team
I see cricket on Jomboy I like and comment to goose the algorithm.
"Umpires call" is basically NFL's "call stands as called" - because they didn't have enough to overturn it, or in this case the ball not hitting the stumps enough to over turn the onfield call
I’m so interested in this technology that can measure whether it would/wouldn’t have hit the wickets. How accurate can that be? If so, why have we not seen something like this implemented in the minors ofMLB yet?
It's the same tech as Hawkeye in tennis, I believe. It calculates trajectory based on spin. It's pretty accurate.
@@imightbebiased9311 also, the degree of error in it is where the 'Umpires Call' comes into play - if they're not 100% then what the umpire says goes.
its fairly accurate, the best we got at the moment. The idea of umpires call is basically that if over half the ball is not in line/hitting the wicket, then its umpires call. Its basically saying that technology isn't perfect, so well trust the umpire in this case
It's generally considered accurate to within the same distance as the radius of the ball. I might be biased is correct - Hawkeye (which is used to tell whether the ball was in or out in tennis) is based on this system cricket has been using for nearly 20 years.
the problem with baseball is they tried that and everyone hated it as a lot of pitches everyone, both pitcher and hitter, agreed on were contradicted by the robo umps, because the way that actual umps call pitches, for example, a nasty curveball that just nicks the bottom of the front of the strike zone en route to bouncing on the plate is absolutely never going to be called a strike. So the problem is the roboumps can only call according to the rules as written, and the rules as written don't reflect how people expect the game to be actually played; there's some work going on towards fixing the rules though.
Shamsi is what used to be called a "Chinaman" bowler - unorthodox spin. Because he's left-handed and basically bowling with the same action as a right-hand leg spinner bowls, he's bowling uncontrolled off spin - which means no one, batsman, bowler or keeper, know what's going to happen with the ball!
between Shamsi and Imran Tahir, RSA have a newfound tradition of very animated wrist spinners
Yeah, the styles of spin are confusing. Effectively Shamsi IS an off-spinner because that's the direction the ball is going on - but leg-spinner and off-spinner are names that are only used for right handers, because left handers make the ball go in the opposite direction when they turn it. A left arm finger spinner is called the somewhat awkward Left Arm Orthodox because that's the more common style - it's easier to bowl and is seen as more effective, because it takes the ball away from a right hander which is seen as harder to play. A left arm wrist spinner, like Shamsi, who brings the ball back in is called.... a Left Arm Unorthodox. Although you'll probably see Left Arm Leg Spin or Left Arm Wrist used just as much, and other odd phrases. This is because, somehow, after an English player expressed his amazement at the ethnicity of a left arm bowler who got him out in the 30s, this style of bowling had been known as Left Arm Chinaman for nearly a century. The phrase has been quietly retired recently.
To summarize what you said:
the type of spin (off or leg) is determined by the way the ball comes in for a right handed batsman
for right arm spinners:
off break means that it comes from the off side TOWARDS the leg
leg break means that is comes from the leg side TOWARDS the off side
for left arm spinners:
slow left arm orthodox is the equivalent of left arm off break, as in its the same movement. This means however that it is similar to a leg break delivery to a right handed batsman
left arm unorthodox, or left arm wrist is the equivalent of left arm leg break, as its the same movement a right arm leg break bowler would use, just with the left hand. This means that the ball is similar to an off spin delivery to a right handed batsman
haha, you should look into Imran Tahir reactions! he was in protea team prior, but since retired.
Crazy how much turn that pitch had.
the Bangalore pitch for the nz sl match was also insane. Mitchell Santner was getting the ball to turn
You got to understand that batsmen play on length he didn't smash it for 4 because it was lofted, he smashed it because it was to full it was a halfvolley, then the ball after was too short so he could rock back on the backfoot
Shamsi bowled really well in this match, unlucky. Lost to the eventual winners though so can take some positives
Marnus was saved because he was playing a shot and the ball hit his pads outside of the line of the stumps ( draw a line from the wickets from both ends and if he plays a shot and the ball hits the pads outside the line he can't be given out. ) even if the ball would have gone through to hit the stumps he can't be given out. If he didn't play any shot then he can be given out if the ball hit his pad and would have gone through to hit the stumps.