I got mine in August 2020- nickname- The Green Mile. Green Manalishi was already taken. I put 4300 wonderful miles on this bike, include a century and a couple Katy Trail 5 day bike packing rides. This bike empty is 14.3 mph bike. Very comfortable and balanced bike.
Got the same bike last fall 2022 and very solid well built. So neutral and 3X is hilarious when you currently ride mountain and gravel bikes with 1X.. Love the 1X drivetrains these days.. So l suspect the Disc Trucker does not come alive until you pack the bike with gear... That would be this summer 2023.. Love your channel
Nice video man. Thank you. Thanks to the information you gave me, I made the decision and got my own Disc Trucker and I am absolutely happy. The only hesitation I had was for the shortest chainstay. But comparing it to the Trek 520 and the Kona Sutra - two successful models on the market - I found that Surly’s chainstay is still longer. So there is no issue with the pannier bags and I confirmed it during use. I am 177cm tall with 81cm inseam and 60cm arm length. I bought the size 56 (700C wheels). Thanks again from Athens/Greece 😊
Honestly i would go for the older frameset, the 12mm thru axle fitting is a deal breaker as i only roll with Shimano hubs with steel axles and i am not willing to go down the route with a bunch of adapters, also i would like the longer chainstay.
I will hang on to my old LHT, I like the new bike but the long chainstays are what make it the smoothest bike in my stable, and they should have stayed with XT 3X10 ,the other changes are OK but the losses are too much!
Surly not only down graded the spec but also didn't fit the horizontal rear drop outs as fitted to their Troll, Ogre, ECR so a Rohloff hub could be fitted. Fail.
Who asked for a taller LHT with shorter chainstays? What used to be THE unicorn of functional long distance touring has now become just another hybrid-gravel bike? Keeping my old one, I guess...
Yep, Surly messed up, they need to keep their fleet well defined and honest for their intended purpose, history shows us that trying to make one thing do it all simply doesn't last.
what do you think of the fact that there is no replaceable derailleur hanger, but it's integrated in the frame? Sure it's steel so you can bend it back, but what if that happens on a tour and you are far away from a bike shop?
I appreciate the lower standover height and the more upright position. I don't know how to feel about the shortened chain stay since that was kind of the point of getting a lht. Also, the specs do not match the price. Overall I am pretty disappointed by this update. I hope Surly understands that being affordable with decent components is what made them such a popular brand. I would also be interested in an actual review of this bike once you get more time to test the bike instead of a spec sheet read. I would especially be interested in your honest opinion about the changes and the value. You do a lot more miles and have way more experience so maybe you know more about why Surly made the changes they did.
From riding around Minneapolis, it has a great city feel, not sluggish but also not fast, could certainly see adding some fenders and a rack and getting to and from work on it.
not really. nothing wrong with Alivio from a durability/simplicity perspective, super robust. also now the highest level shimano parts compatible with road for shifter/mech mixing (since deore is no longer 9 speed). wouldn't bother me if i was road touring.
Even though it's the latest tech, I don't believe proprietary thru axles are good for world touring. If you need to replace a wheel outside North America, it could be a problem
How much did Surly pay you to advertise the new Disctrucker? Seriously, this is not a review, did you even ride this bike ? The way you promote the “captured thru-axles” (which suck!!), how the drivetrain is "great" (it's not !!) .... you are definitely drinking the Surly Kool-Aid!
@@respekted Exactly, there are some very obvious downgrades and questionable design choices on this bike. Bikepacking.com may not agree that this makes the bike worse, but to not even acknowledge it makes me question the legitimacy of all of their reviews, which is extremely disappointing because the website is such a valuable resource.
That color is a throw a way color. Unless manufacturers want to save money there is no use for this color. Wherever you look, whatever the product, this disgusting green always is in stock last when all other colors are sold. In resale it always gets the lowest price.
Please caption your videos. Noticing that Bikepacking lags behind their peers--including more commercial ones--in committing to equity and diversity. This isn't the forum to trot my claim out fully, but take a look at its unconvincing mention of racial inequities in the biking community and lack of diverse voices in its glossy publication.
Whenever I think of a person that would go camping somewhere upon his bicycle, my man Neil is the perfect image of that kind of person.
I got mine in August 2020- nickname- The Green Mile. Green Manalishi was already taken. I put 4300 wonderful miles on this bike, include a century and a couple Katy Trail 5 day bike packing rides. This bike empty is 14.3 mph bike. Very comfortable and balanced bike.
Disc Trucker is neutral, Very solid well built, and green looks good.. I have never packed the bike with gear but summer of 2023 gonna do some tours
You forgot a huge change. They dropped the bar end shifters for the sti shifters. That was a staple for Surly.
Got the same bike last fall 2022 and very solid well built. So neutral and 3X is hilarious when you currently ride mountain and gravel bikes with 1X.. Love the 1X drivetrains these days.. So l suspect the Disc Trucker does not come alive until you pack the bike with gear... That would be this summer 2023.. Love your channel
It's so great that Surly makes such use-specific models, really appreciate the attention to detail they put in for each bike.
Appreciate the look at the bike! Would love to hear your thoughts on how it rides!
you don't give negative reviews on a sponsor. my advice, learn from what surly gets wrong. hold your cash. resale is a real beating.
Nice video man. Thank you. Thanks to the information you gave me, I made the decision and got my own Disc Trucker and I am absolutely happy. The only hesitation I had was for the shortest chainstay. But comparing it to the Trek 520 and the Kona Sutra - two successful models on the market - I found that Surly’s chainstay is still longer. So there is no issue with the pannier bags and I confirmed it during use. I am 177cm tall with 81cm inseam and 60cm arm length. I bought the size 56 (700C wheels). Thanks again from Athens/Greece 😊
that is a really great fork redesign.
How is pannier clearance with the shorter stays?
Man how tall are you?? I was wondering if the 56 fits good for me
Honestly i would go for the older frameset, the 12mm thru axle fitting is a deal breaker as i only roll with Shimano hubs with steel axles and i am not willing to go down the route with a bunch of adapters, also i would like the longer chainstay.
I will hang on to my old LHT, I like the new bike but the long chainstays are what make it the smoothest bike in my stable, and they should have stayed with XT 3X10 ,the other changes are OK but the losses are too much!
Can I fit 700c wheelset on size 42 frameset?
With all that information on frame size and geometry would have been helpful to know your height.
Surly not only down graded the spec but also didn't fit the horizontal rear drop outs as fitted to their Troll, Ogre, ECR so a Rohloff hub could be fitted. Fail.
Who asked for a taller LHT with shorter chainstays? What used to be THE unicorn of functional long distance touring has now become just another hybrid-gravel bike? Keeping my old one, I guess...
Yep, Surly messed up, they need to keep their fleet well defined and honest for their intended purpose, history shows us that trying to make one thing do it all simply doesn't last.
What's your height? I am 5'10" and between sizes so thinking about the 56 as well...
may i ask your height ? this frame is 56 cm in 700c wheel right?
what do you think of the fact that there is no replaceable derailleur hanger, but it's integrated in the frame? Sure it's steel so you can bend it back, but what if that happens on a tour and you are far away from a bike shop?
You forgot to mention all the cons with this build!
The official specs state there is a BB RS500 (with 2*2.5 spacers on NDS), not BB52. Can you confirm that?
I appreciate the lower standover height and the more upright position. I don't know how to feel about the shortened chain stay since that was kind of the point of getting a lht. Also, the specs do not match the price. Overall I am pretty disappointed by this update. I hope Surly understands that being affordable with decent components is what made them such a popular brand.
I would also be interested in an actual review of this bike once you get more time to test the bike instead of a spec sheet read. I would especially be interested in your honest opinion about the changes and the value. You do a lot more miles and have way more experience so maybe you know more about why Surly made the changes they did.
what an embarrassingly positive review. not mentioning the drivetrain downgrade, really?
Most are basically the same. The only difference is weight. It's a touring bike no need to mention it.
Was thinking the same! Such a shame!
What is the maximum load of this disc trucker?
have the geometry changes made it more playful of a bike ? Or is it kind of boring and very straight line stable if you know what I mean?
Interested. My Cross Check wanted to be a LHT. Yeah... interested.
Is there pleace for kikstand?
So if you want to use a hub dynamo, then what?
It can take a dynamo hub no problem and it actually comes with internal dynamo routing in the fork.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom I've never seen a dynamo hub with 12mm though axel but hey maybe there is a way to fit one with some adapters of some sort
@@nickwf70 SON makes some: nabendynamo.de/en/products/hub-dynamos/for-thru-axles/
@@tnelly27 very nice hub
how tall are you?
also, is that Minnehaha ?
5’10” with a 32” inseam, and yes, Minnehaha!
👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Would like to if a disc trucker would be a good commuter and fun to ride once the touring is done
From riding around Minneapolis, it has a great city feel, not sluggish but also not fast, could certainly see adding some fenders and a rack and getting to and from work on it.
@@BIKEPACKINGcom do you read what you write, not sluggish but also not fast, what does it mean? do they pay you by words on comments?
How can I get one in Mexico without being absolutely gouged on the price?
buy a giant or trek
Not pleased with higher gear inches...
I'll wait. Keep my 2014 DT.
The super low end group set is a huge turn off
Just buy frame and build it to your liking
not really. nothing wrong with Alivio from a durability/simplicity perspective, super robust. also now the highest level shimano parts compatible with road for shifter/mech mixing (since deore is no longer 9 speed). wouldn't bother me if i was road touring.
ありがとう！
Even though it's the latest tech, I don't believe proprietary thru axles are good for world touring. If you need to replace a wheel outside North America, it could be a problem
It's too bad Surly didn't update their bike with advice from real long distance touring bikers.
but the people who designed the bike get their groceries with it!!¡
How much did Surly pay you to advertise the new Disctrucker? Seriously, this is not a review, did you even ride this bike ? The way you promote the “captured thru-axles” (which suck!!), how the drivetrain is "great" (it's not !!) .... you are definitely drinking the Surly Kool-Aid!
We've never been Paid anything by any company to publish a review. This is a first ride/look, not an in depth review...
bikepacking.com is secretly owned by QPB. Also, the Earth is flat.
I really enjoyed this video and I would to see you go bike touring with a 1x. Stop hating my guy!
@@BIKEPACKINGcom lack of mention of the downgraded component set is a red flag for many.
@@respekted Exactly, there are some very obvious downgrades and questionable design choices on this bike. Bikepacking.com may not agree that this makes the bike worse, but to not even acknowledge it makes me question the legitimacy of all of their reviews, which is extremely disappointing because the website is such a valuable resource.
Sponsored review is meaningless
I had like 666, how cool is that!
Embarassing acting, no way I buy anything from Surly if they use these ridiculous marketing tricks
Hate to be that guy, but when referencing distance...it’s FARTHER...nor FURTHER.
That color is a throw a way color. Unless manufacturers want to save money there is no use for this color. Wherever you look, whatever the product, this disgusting green always is in stock last when all other colors are sold. In resale it always gets the lowest price.
Please caption your videos. Noticing that Bikepacking lags behind their peers--including more commercial ones--in committing to equity and diversity. This isn't the forum to trot my claim out fully, but take a look at its unconvincing mention of racial inequities in the biking community and lack of diverse voices in its glossy publication.
How tall are you?
How tall are you?