How Many Different Hobbies IS Wargaming?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 10 ธ.ค. 2020
- Following up on last week's video - how many different hobbies are in the tabletop wargaming "hobby" and what makes our hobby different than most others?
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I think our hobby is straight up art no matter how you look at it. It's an expression of self.
Played 40k in the 90's, went on a 20 year hiatus, went back to painting and playing this year. But I never stopped reading books and following the lore in all these years. I get what you're saying.
Exact same story here. The time and money costs always stopped me getting back into it.
I bought 'Warhammer:Underworlds - Direchasm' and a vallejo paint set for myself this xmas to jump back in. The low model count and no scenery made it seem doable. What really sold me on it though, is that the 2 armies that come with it are set in different colored plastic, so I can play it with my housemate as a board game, and then take as much time as I need to get the models painted. Seems much more "busy adult" friendly! It's not 40k, but if you're okay with the lore/setting/styling of AoS, it seems like a great way to start the hobby again.
Cant wait!
Yep, same here. The books kept me connected to an extent for 20 years.
"Wargaming is multiple hobbies".
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are you sure? :)
Surely collecting is part of the hobby? I think it has to be, mainly as I seem to excell at buying things before I've finished what I'm working on! 🤣
The trick is to leave the box unopened until you're ready to start.
Me too. Guilty as charged! 😀
@@benjaminpowers609 100%. Even better is to leave it on the store shelf until you're ready to start.
@@Anjohl baby steps lol
@@benjaminpowers609 agreed. I do the same thing, at least that way if you decide to drop a project, it's way easier to sell the models when they're NIB.
I'm mostly in the hobby to lick brushes
@Itachirevived Licking makes the paint last longer, so you won't run out so fast.
Was so much better when we had lead in paint
Do you have a favorite flavor of brush? Do you find sable hair to be better for licking than synthetic?
@@aaronpoirier7908 sable is definitely better, tastes more natural you know.
I can stop anytime I want damn it
And then there are those of us who paint and build armies for the theoretical future when we can hopefully convince our kids to play...
For Historical Wargaming, the 'Lore' is the interest in the History it'self. There are many people I know got into wargaming because of their interest in history. I Also know many wargamers who have started gaming because they love painting the figures and then wanted to do something with the figures they had on the shelf.
IMHO I'd separate the main strands into; modelling, painting, collecting and then gaming. With the same lore caveat
I do generally agree though that what makes 'the hobby' special is that its so multi faceted and diverse
I am of the belief that the crafting, painting, and wargaming hobbies are a Venn diagram of numerous circles that intersect in varying degrees for different people.
For me, my wargaming circle is the primary bubble, and the painting circle is entirely contained within. The crafting circle is as well, but it is a much, much smaller circle, as I don’t do a lot of scenery crafting. Regardless, these things are all done to support my wargaming.
There are people who have a different bubble as their primary, and wargaming is just a smaller bubble within, because the wargaming is a vector to support their primary interest, as opposed to doing that thing to support wargaming. Some people don’t have a wargaming bubble at all-they just like the painting or crafting, and don’t like playing any games.
It’s an interesting subject to think about.
My dad always refers to these as lifestyle games, and I don’t think there is a better description. His advice did not dissuade me from getting into miniatures.
Great t-shirt.
I read the books for years and years cause it was so fascinating and it wasn't till this summer and fall I got into the painting and miniature side of things. Never realized just how relaxing painting could be.
In my opinion building is indeed a worthy category, just looking at the amazing terrain and boards people have made, not only models.
valid points man-who-uploads-things-at-two-in-the-morning dude.
Finals aren't fun...
A third component of the hobby between the craft and the gaming is those who build terrain pieces and boards to play the game or display armies. I find myself switching between these three every few months to keep things interesting...
I’ve been in the hobby (mostly with Warhammer) for a little over three years now and find the most satisfaction when the army that I have carefully built and painted to match the fluff with its heraldry and theming is fielded against an army with equal care put into it.
I had a cool experience yesterday. I'm painting Ultramarine bladeguard, so I did the shoulder trim as white. The issue I had was I used a lot of greys to build the white up and it still kinda looked a little pale grey.
I also had done the robes red, because I was like "fuck painting more white", I went back though and redid the robes with Zandri Dust, Ushabti Bone and Skeleton horde, and amazingly, I've found that the white looks whiter? I have no idea what happened but don;t be afraid to change painting decisions you've made!
I paint to sell. And I don’t try to get crazy prices, I just like knowing everybody has painted minis to play with.
A noble cause.
first time coming across your channel. just had to say how much I appreciate the high quality audio
One aspect of the hobby that has not been mentioned (may have missed a comment, apologies if I have), is the social aspect. I met my best friend at a convention 30 years ago playing Battletech. I have 'gaming friends' that I still get together with, that I have known for 35-25 years. You get to really know a person while gaming at the table and if you put something into it, you can foster life long friends.
That's me, I build and paint, build and paint. It's my favorite part
I think it's great that tabletop gaming has a bit of breadth to it and that you can find your niche and, most importantly, get fulfillment from your hobby doing basically whatever you like within it. Personally, I get the most fulfillment out of building and painting (and also collecting - sometimes I'll just buy a model to have the model) and I've met a goodly number of friends just from sharing our love of painting minis. Can't ask for more out of any hobby than that, imo.
I love sharing my hobby on TH-cam, to try (in some small way) to inspire others to get into it. The joy and fun of this hobby is on a huge and varied spectrum. Building (kitbash), painting, playing, list making, lore and the social aspect. The Ork community is just awesome 😃👍🏼
Which klan do you prefer? My orkz are Deffskullz.
@@Nosmo90 I love the Goffs for their brutality, the Badmoonz for their love of Dakka and ostentatiousness and the Evil Sunz for their love of speed. I don’t know if I could choose just one between these three 🤣🤣🤣
@@EssexBoyz If you're not bothered about missing out on the named Goffz characters (particularly Ghazghkull), I'd recommend either Bad Moonz or Evil Sunz, as I find them a lot more interesting. =)
@@Nosmo90 could be a bit late for me 😅😅 I have about 5000points of Goffs already painted 🤣🤣 but I also have about 8000 points of Badmoonz 😳😃👍🏼
love your videos. They get me thinking about stuff, usually fun stuff :D I thought about it, and I actually did the whole read the lore without ever playing thing (tho not a wargame) Shadowrun RPG. I just loved the world and how the books (even just the core rulebook) were written and all the little details. It was super interesting to me. Never done it since, but still love the Shadowrun universe without ever actually playing it.
Somethings I think my real hobby is pimping and organizing games based on the time I spend customizing (faction dice, sleeves, tokens, etc) and finding ways to organize, store, and transport minis and game bits.
For the more impulsive amongst us: COLLECTING. I have a collection of codexes and magazines that I have hardly read - though I have “digested” all the photography and imagery as well as the lore (at least as far as I can read) - and I have collected models almost purely for the sake of just having them before they go out of print - but I do have intentions on painting them all. Eventually.
Gotta have all those current and back issues of WhiteDwarf to paint them faithfully to the box art! The Lore is also important because it helps you understand the details and iconography included on the miniatures - I have “unlocked” so much through reading - which has helped my painting - but has also informed me about all the important, “big deal” characters and has had me seeking them out for my collection. Darn the lore!
I played the Dawn of War series a lot and read the books for a long time. It’s only been this year that I had the time to be able get involved in the tabletop side of the hobby. I’ve only played two games of 8th and a game of 9th. I’m having more fun with the tabletop. Good video
11:27 Funny thing, when i was a kid i loved making flys, but to this day i have never used one to actually fish. The ones that i built usually gave to my father or my uncles, although i don't know if they ended up being used at all.
Been building and painting for a little over two years now. finally starting to get decent at painting! I look forward to carving out some time to actually play with my buddy.
Good discussion, thanks! I tend to go from one end of the hobby to the other end, depending on the season of my life I'm in at that moment. Going from playing to crafting and back. Like right now, I'm crafting for BattleTech: model painting, custom 3D-hex plates for terrain modeling. Will go back to playing when the COVID restrictions will be lifted (hopefully soon!).
Another great video, thanks👍
I would say there are accualy 4 hobbies.
Crafting
Collecting
Playing
And allso Lore
I have started like 2 months ago, and due to pandemic have no way of playing. But the crafting and colletsing is still super fun!
I would be a bit more granular with Lore:
Reading - what GW publishes
Writing - about my own forces and where they fit in the GW universe.
I feel GW is really encouraging the latter with the narrative Crusade campaign component of 9th edition.
On the lore-only front, I was one for years, as I started with the Dawn of War games, which got me and my pals hooked on the Grimdark even when there was no store selling GW products in my whole home country, I only got into minis when I moved to Europe and one fateful day walked in front of a GW store. And I know my case is far from rare.
Hi!! Really enjoyed that video, and I do agree... I am one of the people in the Warhammer world that loves the lore, I’ve never played 30K, own no minis, but I’ve read almost every book in the Horus Heresy series from Black Library... upto book 43!! Take care and stay safe Uncle
Awesome Video!!!!
I'm super interested in the lore.... Which got me into buying my first box.... And I got super in love with the craft.... and now I have about ten different armies across 40k, AoS and Malifaux............................................ Never played a single game in my life tho.
There are so many elements of the hobby I enjoy to be honest.
Initially reading up on the lore of the different armies before deciding what models to buy.
Then there's the potentially finding bargains in terms of the a tusk purchases, this could involve ebay second hand models, that might need stripping or rescuing.
Then there's the assembly and painting one element I actually take loads of enjoyment in is the writing of an army list, then there's the gaming.
Also making scenery is another part that is great fun, so many elements to enjoy.
The frostgrave universe have some lore books too :)
Great video!
Also, for me, buying stuff is pretty much a hobby in itself. I love collecting :)
More like "How Many Jobs IS Wargaming?"
Love the Shirt!
I am mostly a collector and painter. I collect and paint miniatures from all ranges. I've played one game of Kill Team and some Blackstone Fortress. I did buy the Blades of Khorne battletome since I have over a 1000 points in minis. I love those violent death metal dudes. Maybe I'll play Warcry or AoS after Covid.
A song of ice and fire the miniatures game comes with pre assembled minis so you can just open the box and start playing. Tournaments don't even require you to have painted models. Although I like painting and have painted all of my models for the game it's nice because of how easy it is as a beginner to get into that game
Damn I was just reading one of your comments on Reddit from 3 years ago about plastic vs metal miniatures. Someone else replied to you saying they were a fan haha.
Heroscape is another pre-built/painted mini game Hasbro made in the 2000's. It was a huge part of my childhood/adolescence & probably why I'm so into 40k.
"Build & Painter" only here. Thousands of points of 40k models on my shelf but I've only played a few games of 40k and KillTeam. :)
I think there can be Lore in historical games in a number of ways.
For pre-written history, the stories will can between tellings/translations.
New evidence can be brought to light on what is "know" about what was written.
And people like Bernard Cornwall can write historical fiction, which can be used to turn into settings for gaming - eg the Sharpe series of novels, and the TV movies based on them, "inspired" TooFatLardies' Napoleonic Skirmish wargame Sharp Practice.
Here's a question for you. I have only ever played one game of LoTR. It was part of a demo game and I took control of Godorian infantry and archers and a cavalry troop of Rohrim. I faced a solid block of Dwarven heavy infantry and a siege weapon, a trebuchet. For two moves I unleashed my archers at which ever Dwarf infantry block that was closest and just castled with my infantry. While he fired his siege weapon in an attempt to break up my infantry. On my third turn the Rohrim hit the back of the siege weapon. For the whole game he had watched my cavalry gallop down the far side of the table from his siege weapon, shielded by houses. I rode around the back of the houses and into the rear of the siege weapon and charges with no defensive fire. In that same turn my infantry moved towards his Dwarves to pin them. Next turn it was over as I hit the rear of his a block of Dwarves. The victory was so complete I never felt the need to game it again. Is that a thing?
I've spent the pandemic theorycrafting on what to do with the Indomitus armies I'm building and catching up on Necron lore.
Man I can't wait to go out and play some Warhammer. All I've played is some Warcry with my sister and I have to con/bribe her into playing DireChasm with me as soon as I get it and put it together.
I actually like that a lot "Lore Agnostic " games. Gives me a chance to do my own worldbuiding without having to start form nothing.
I love crafting and playing tabletops. I definitely see it as two hobbies. Unfortunately I am not artistically skilled (paint, draw, etc) I get my creative outlet through being a DM.
Buying minis must count as a hobby too, right? :) Thanks for the video.
I think it’s 3 hobbies, build paint and an X factor. This ranges on what you’re playing but for 40k it would be the lore. For historicals it usually means research. For superhero games it would be delving into the comic stories about new releases
Good video thank you
I feel like I have an odd relationship with wargaming. Me and my brother kinda almost got into 40k when we were kids. I really liked the mini's and the lore and we liked painting them. But I didn't have the patience to actually figure out how to play the game.
Years later I discovered Dawn of War and LOVED it. I love RTS games to begin with but DoW was just one of the best in it's class and I also loved the 40k aspect of it. It got me back interested in 40k but only in reading about the lore (aside from playing the game).
In the past few years I got a bug up my butt and wanted to actually play the tabletop game. And then I learned about GW's business practices. With the game being cost prohibitive, I thought maybe I could get a few older editions, try and find cheaper used models online, and convince a few friends to play. Now I'm also discovering a whole mess of games that aren't 40k that actually look really cool. Some of the rules are even free.
So I painted a few minis as a kid, but spent most of my time in the hobby reading lore. And soon I'm gonna try and play a few games that probably won't be 40k lol. But I bought Frostgrave and downloaded Star Breach, Grimdark Future, Age of Fantasy and the variants (firefight, regiments and skirmish). I think this new/old hobby will be fun.
Winged Hussair are publishing books for Mantic in kings of war based on pannithor now. Check out the latest book drowned secrets.
I feel that the craft should be broken down into at least 2 parts: model building, and terrain building. Totally different, yet linked for obvious reasons.
Nice shirt! As a *former* Raiders fan (screw Davis Jr for the SECOND move.), I will throw my support to the Tuskens!
Reading the comments from all you guys about the hobby is a hobby of mine.
I'm a historical wargamer than in it for the lore - I like history and I find that wargaming allows me to explore the history in more immersive way than just reading a book.
Excellent takes and thoughts all around.
For me, I'm here for the paint. I actually hate assembling models, but ya gotta do what ya gotta do. I think the game would be a lot of fun, it's the sort of thing I'm into, but it's just not in the cards for me at the moment. The paint also does rely on the game, and mostly, it's popularity. I want to paint cool detailed models, that's fine. The popularity of the game lets GW make those sorts of models. Without the game, the models don't exist (as evidenced by how small and niche model only products are).
As for the game. It is two hobbies. This concept was introduced to me in WoW. There is the active part of the game, where you've moving little men and shooting lasers or whatever. Then there is the part of the game that takes place outside of the game. The army building, the theorycrafting. The part of the game where you develop massive interlinked spreadsheets to get the most mathematically powerful squad for the options at hand. The part of the game where you develop a computer program to simulate wow combat to find out if +20 str or +20 agi is better for your character based on 1 million simulated fights vs ragnaros.
In my local club we have a wide spectrum of people(i think most clubs do)
We have people who only care about playing and tactics.
On the other end we have people only into speciffic crafts.
And theres people who just come by to talk about the lore and roleplay.
Imo my group is richer by allowing each person to pursue their own hobby. We dont have "only play with painted figs" or "to attend tournament you must participate in tournament" rules.
Our tables are better because we have some railroad guys who just want to build dioramas(terrain).
Our tournaments are more diverse because the tactitians are not forced to buy and paint everything they want to try out.
I myself dont play much but I love building small scale siege equipment from chopsticks, toothpicks and thread.
We have been going for more than 20 years and most of us have drifted to different hobbies over the years. And it just seem strange to one day gang up on a friend and say "because you dont do x you cant be in the club"
And everyone gets to enjoy our strange little hobbies, drink coffee and nerd out.
T.O.T.M.. I started playing D&D in the mid-70's, miniatures were not really available. All we did was use maps and dice until the mid-80's....ALL Theatre of the Mind. Best games ever, by the way.
love the shirt
As has been aluded to I, as an historical gamer, have thought along these lines for many a year. Justification of 'playing with toy soldiers' forced this on the older gamer. There's the craft, history and play as you rightly say but also technical elements. The what ,where when and how of kit, units, hardware, to&e and context is also another stand alone hobby. The chaps I associate with make journey's to battle sites, Waterloo, The Peninsula, Thermopylae, Berlin, the Western Front, the D-day beaches, Falaise, Caen, Rome....and a miriad of museums and galleries. Either singly or in groups we compare notes on topography etc. I do however, when asked say that I play with toy soldiers'. They snort, or smile at my 'infantile' persuit little knowing how vast it's interior really is.
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Another possibility; combining the Craft part (building, converting, painting, scenics) with History (learning, reenactment). And then just make diorama’s or/and PLAY with the minifigs!
Just making youre own stories, like we did as a kid with playmobil and toyfigs. No wargaming-rules needed 😎🤠
Lots of wargames (including historical) also have a cosplay or reenactment hobby!
I'm really wanting to start sculpting but I'm really nervous to take the plunge. It took me about 10 years to start painting my own miniatures for dnd. Any advice for sculpting?
I'd like to see some films or series added to the GW universe too
I enjoy painting and collecting models but lotr from gameworkshop but feel like there is a lack of verity.. any ideas of what else can be used?
I got a feeling he read my comment last video and took me way to serious lol. I still kind of think stuff like scenery crafting is totally different than model crafting. I'm glad he addressed the whole side of people who only like to stratigize , I wonder how many article writers are in that position
I think it's fair to say that there are definitely 2 main hobbies within 40k, but I think there are some specialisms within that which people enjoy which could be called separate hobbies.
For example I think terrain building is different enough to be considered a different hobby. It's something that some hobbyists specialise in and some avoid completely.
I think the theory crafting of the play aspect is also significantly different enough from actual playing. In the same way that doing the deckbuilding of MtG is kind of a different hobby to playing MtG.
I'm just into painting the eyes of miniatures. I have a bunch of minis just primed (some times not even) with just their eyes painted. Some times I don't even build them; just head not attached to anything with beautiful eyes. They say the eyes are the windows to the soul, so I like to surround myself with small heads with pretty eyes to look at me. I had some attached around my monitor at work, but the manager told me to take them out because it made other people uncomfortable. I don't see what was the problem with it; everybody got some decoration around their desk and I don't tell them what they can or can't put on their desk. If they don't like it, they should just look away.
If it can be broken down to a different activity, it's a separate sub-hobby. If it's merely a different technique within the same activity, that's not a separate "hobby".
I kind of get 9:37-10:44..
With myself I can kind of see as to how it applies with me and chess not the least because of the learning curve and subculture which comes with chess.. it can be so intimidating the exhausting to get into the theory of chess (not the least because it is a rare case of a board game with some centuries of dense 'theory-crafting') that I barely feel like working through a chest puzzle let alone playing for an entire game; I can barely make a draw or win with computers set at a rating of 1200. Also solely reading through chess theory in Spanish give me a unique venue to keep my non-English understanding adequate in a way which definitely is not always common when it comes to making conversational Spanish with someone else.
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I guess that's another example of pouring into or over 'theory and strategy' in a vein analogous to 9:37-10:44 is kind of like how much people can pour over and gush about literary theory and/or philosophy of language but seldom read much prose writing, whether in terms of fiction or nonfiction or even narrative or non-narrative. It's one reason why I feel comfortable working while surrounded by books at a library but not feel too guilty about not always actively reading and I feel privileged for knowing my way around the TH-cam video essay scene (including arguably this channel to some extent) so as to better soak up 'non-fiction' more expediently.
I mostly like warhammer for the painting/building and have never played,a friend of mine is a "lore nerd" as he calls himself but has never painted/built so I get what you're saying.
Where would you put research?
Where did you get that shirt?
I will buy an army for a period of history after doing research on army and completing several lists so I have variable options of how the army can adapt tactics like they did in real life. I also look for manufacturers that have figs ill enjoy painting and basing then when army's compatible to play with people at the club before I will do an army.
For me the Lore comes first. And most of my list building falls more under lore than play since i build lists to fit with lore and don't care about building effective lists.
Collecting is also a huge part for me too.
I am of the camp: build and paint because that's the fun part. Play... meh I guess I have the models anyway.
I was very into the play portion until I was spanked turn 0 (yes 0) in 40k. I walked away from the dice and the brush for a while after that. The painting itch brought me back mid plague and now I listing to lore videos as I craft. I'm excited for the germs to go away so I can play again but this time it will be narrative.
You are on the same wave length that I'm on.
Little Wars is promoting their own free rule set...the problem is there are 1,000s of free rule sets. That's not the problem. You are dead on as to it being 2 separate hobbies.
If you want to increase miniature wargaming player numbers you need a new product that can be bought and played just by opening the box. It would include plastic pre-painted minis, a playing surface (like a thin fold or roll up mat) thats 2'x2' or 3'x3' and all the items you need to play (dice, measuring devices.etc) along with the rule book full of pictures to help learn the system and thus the hobby. A Viking skirmish box would likely be very popular.
This type of item serves multiple purposes. It brings in fresh blood to the hobby, it gets people over the hump of time and cost investment and it opens the door to those who want to go further into the more traditional side of the hobby.
The hobby has to evolve the same way that board wargaming has evolved. The 'monster' wargames of the past are pretty much a dying breed. They cost to much, need a huge amount of room to play and can take months to complete. The titles that do well now fit on a normal table, have an acceptable price range and can be played often in a few hours.
Adapting to a new generation of potential wargamers in general is a challenge in this day and age but we have to make things that young people can afford and have the time and space to play.
total of 3.
1. Buying (don't lie to yourself or me)
2. Hobby, painting/building
3. Playing.
Even just buying a box of mini's makes you a member of "The Hobby Family" in my opinion because you have bought sometihing you like.... regardless what you do with it
I mostly enjoy crafting and painting, but I would play more if the people I play with lived closer.
I don’t play, don’t paint but I watch all the lore videos on TH-cam of course also TM.
I agree with you that are different hobbies in Wargaming, the crafting, the reading and the playing. But I not agree with the fact that you describes your self as a Wargaming if you only reads lore aka fantasy books, that make you only a reader. If you only do the crafting aspect, build and/or paint, you are a modeler and/or a painter. And only playing games, that is making you only a player. For me the definition of Wargaming is doing all those aspects of the hobby, that is also why wargaming is so complete as a hobby and that in my book, is what is making you a Wargamer! :)
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for me it also meditative
What about the Gamesworkshop hype loop? A hobby unto itself. I don't even participate but I still like watching the hype train pass me by.
I generally concur here, but I do think "lore" (or "fluff" as it tends to be called in England) is a big part of it beyond the established worlds of GW and the other large franchises. A lot of gamers spend the majority of their hobby time coming up with their own lore for their projects, often more than they do painting or playing. There's a very strong creative writing element to the hobby and it's especially apparent in "loreless" games like Oathmark. It's an error to think of the lore part of thobby as just the stuff produced by the companies as official background.
So do warganes have to have some sort of figures? What about games such as Axis and Allies, Risk etc.? Is Settlers a wargame?
Technically no, as the term 'board game' covers those adequately.
Axis and Allies and Risk are definitely war-themed board games, though.
That's why we specify "miniature wargaming". To distinguish from other types of wargaming.
@@ADHDlanguages Good point!
And then there's games like X-Wing and Marvel Crisis Protocol... both have movies, comics, and other stuff already attached because the lore came before the games.
When uncle atom thinks something is whack 10:16 it probably is
3:12 I don't understand. Wargaming is traditionally often done with counters. Why can't you play these games with cardboard tokens?
From my perspective it's the craft that's dependent on the game, rather than the converse. That said, I don't wargame, I only paint (well, I have a few tactical solo games-they all work with counters!). But, crucially, I don't care if the miniatures I'm painting came from GW or somewhere else-a good sculpt that speaks to me, at a price I'm willing to pay? I'm up for that. But you notice: that's not ‘the hobby’ at all. I'm not a wargamer, just a mini painter.
I've been collecting the minis and rulebooks for years but the actual wargaming has been disappointing in the least. Once You get into combat range it's just rollin' rollin' rollin'. But I'm still on a lookout for a good ruleset - 5 parsecs from home seems like the thing - to do more than just roll to resolve conflicts.
I am a player who suffers through the craft 😂 But the results are worth the pain 👍
War gaming in all of its forms is a slow burn. It started off a small slice of my free time and over 3 years has become the primary activity when I have free time.
Plastic crack
Collecting and maybe even buying is also a big part and for some the only part of wargaming.
For some reason it pleases me to get more skittarii
Good video! One thing I would like to also dress when you start breaking up hobbies. Is that you will find many times people that just paint or model the craft side of the hobby do so and get praised for their taking part in that hobby. However if you are a gamer and you’re not really inclined to paint your models many times you get criticized. Being told that painting is part of the hobby, And if you’re not going to Paint your models you’re some sort of lower life form.
It’s interesting that they’re such a double standard
A GW employee literally told me that I’m always a winner when my painted army plays a grey one - even if I lose the game. I’m sure they meant it out of encouragement though.