Nice review. Let me tell you something that is quite quite shocking and a surprise. My main car is a V6 3.0 Porsche Macan S and i bought the Honda E as a 2nd car city runaround. Since purchase I have stopped driving my Porsche and I drive this instead. No lie this car has the best and most composed ride of any car I have ever owned !!
1. The paint chip on the bonnet edge is caused by lifting the wiper arm up when the bonnet is closed, the wiper arm strikes the bonnet edge. I found the same issue after I’d arrived home with my Honda e. I’m waiting for better weather to fit a small protective pad on both wiper arms to stop this happening again. It’s not just a Honda issue, it occurs with other manufacturers too. 2. The three raised ridges on top of the door handle are the contact point for locking the vehicle, not for unlocking the vehicle. Touching the three raised ridges once locks the vehicle, and if you keep hold of the handle and touch the three raised ridges again within a few seconds it activates the deadlocks. The contact point for unlocking the vehicle is under the handle, but I find that a little fiddly. Alternatively you can pull the handle out once, the window will drop, and the vehicle will unlock. Pull the handle out a second time to open the door. Obviously the key can also be used to unlock and lock the vehicle, but like you, I prefer the convenience of leaving the key in my pocket. Also note the vehicle does not auto lock. We previously had three Zoes and enjoyed the auto lock convenience. You must always lock the Honda e using either the key, or as described above. You can also lock the vehicle using the small button located within the tailgate handle, press once to lock, press again within a few seconds to deadlock the vehicle. 3. The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give you access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle as mentioned in 2. above. As mentioned by another commenter, a Faraday pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked. We part-exchanged two Zoes for the Honda e and have no regrets whatsoever, and range isn’t an issue for us. In September we’ll be driving our Honda e over 200 miles to attend the Fully Charged OUTSIDE 2021 event in Farnborough, we’re looking forward to it.
1. Agree....never lifted the arm so dealer damage most likely (or the person who washes the cars on the forecourt) 2. Interestingly mine doesn't work correctly in wet weather (in the video that was a clip to vaguely demo what I meant....I have another clip where I try around 40-50 times to get the stupid thing to open....nope..no chance, in the end, all the stuff on the floor and pressed the key to make the car open, another time I actually had to go around to the boot, open that and then close it to drop the locks on the drivers door!) Most of the time ok, occasionally totally hopeless system. 3. Such a shame - a missed opportunity (seeing as there are so many options to play with on this car...having this as a selectable option within the menu or via the app would be spot on...as long as that was combined with autolock of course...which sadly isnt a thing). Niggles....got to love em.
About the wipers you need to put them in maintenance mode to be able to lift them without damaging the bonnet. Within 5 seconds after you switch off the car pull up the wipers switch and hold it until they move up the automatically.
@@TheReubenBonnici It’s an accident waiting to happen at a hand car wash, they’ll just lift the arms to wipe under the blades and then the damage is done, that’s why I’m cleaning my own car from now on.
I’ve got one on order since January, it’s due in April hopefully. I was dithering until a watched this video. Nice to hear a good honest unbiased opinion. The smile every time you get in is what I’m after! Sticking with ordered !!! Thanks
I'm down for a test drive of the Fiat 500. I love the idea of the Honda, and like you say if it could do 200 miles, I think I'd have already bought one.
I’ve had mine for 6 months and as you say it always puts a smile on my face. I’ve had none of the issues you mention except when it’s frozen the doors are hard to open with the automatic window drop - in fact I left it to warm up before using as I was afraid of damage. Also the app on my phone won’t communicate with the car when it’s in my drive any more. Good video, would you let me know when you visit my dealer Cheshire Oaks Honda?
I have to agree with you on always smiling when you get in your EV. Same here. Last June (2020) I bought a used 2016 Kia Soul EV+ (my very first electric car) without ever having driven it or even stepping foot in an electric car before because it was an excellent deal: Less than $13000 (US), less than 18000 miles and one owner, no accidents, etc. Every time I get in it I enjoy it, without fail. It is exceptionally well made: Every switch, knob, dial, lever and so on has a solid well-made feel to it, no wiggle, no squeaks, etc. Very smooth car. And even though it is only rated at 109HP it FEELS much faster (especially from 0 to about 45mph) because of the instant torque. Great car. And costing only about $2 or $3 to "fill up" is also very nice!
Thanks to the algorithm for bringing me here. Absolutely real world review without any of the frills or memes. Much Appreciated and instant sub from me 😎👍🏼
Considering buying a Honda e, doing some research on TH-cam. Hey, that looks like the guy from Real Life Gadget Reviews (already a subscriber over there, love the content!). Well bloody hell, it is. Watched the entire e series since yesterday. Best review online. Looking forward to following the next 45k miles.
@@IanSampsonRLO Agreed - I also think 10A sockets pretty much everywhere would make a day trip easy (quite often car parks have rapid chargers with a 1 hour max stay, I don't want to have to go back and move the car after an hour if I am at the coast for the day and slow charging is fine then)
@@robsmith1a 10A isn’t enough. Either 32A single phase or three phase should be the lowest standard. 10A can literally take more than a day to charge an EV with a decent sized battery.
@@SirHackaL0t. I am not thinking about charging a car from empty to full. When I had a Zoe I found the granny cable (10A) was very useful if I visited a relative for the day to top me up enough to get home (it added 10 miles of range per hour). Cars spend a lot of time parked and I think many three pin plug type places to plug in at a destination is much better than rapid chargers where you can only park for a short time. I agree that 7kw would be much faster but if you are parked for several hours you are then blocking the charging post. I admit if you have something very inefficient you won't find 10a very useful but in many ways that is a fault with the car and even at rapid chargers it compromises that car in terms of miles added per minute. When making a stop on a long journey the faster the charging the better (at present a Tesla the only really good option for that but hopefully things will change, Tesla also have a lof of 7 / 11 kw destination chargers at places like hotels).
Great vid! I love the idea of the Honda, I have an i3S (rex) and think it's brilliant - fun and also quirky, so I love the idea of the fun and quirky Honda, and I've heard lots of people say the ride is fantastic - not a praise levelled at the i3s (though i find it perfectly fine - but then I came from a lowered mini lol!). it's just the range/efficiency that would put me off as having the rex currenty I have little range anxiety - though i do drive it like a full EV (up to about 120 miles on a charge) I don't have a second car for longer journeys - the i3S is THE car. Can't wait to see what Honda do next!!
Ended up with a 2019 Hyundai ioniq instead of this due to the wait times. Finally pulled the trigger on trading it in for the Honda e! Have driven it a few times at the dealer, and am so excited to own one!
just found your channel...and subscribed - maybe you talk about the (non) wing mirrors elsewhere but would have been good to hear your experience of these as well as the rear view one.
I have my Honda E coming from Yeomans of Churt in two weeks A really good company to deal with and the salesman Mark Cronin is very helpful. I still have range anxiety but I feel sure this will pass. So I am really looking forward to getting it. I will let you know when I have had it for a few weeks.
haha definitely do not get a Pug if you want a clean car, they shed constantly and mine loves to sneeze on the windows the little shit. I've only seen 1 Honda E on the roads in the North East, by the way, seems to be incredibly uncommon. Electric cars aren't massively popular yet, it's mainly Model 3's and quite a few Leaf's with us having Nissan locally I suppose.
ha ha, right, cross pug off the list ;) (I have no intention of 'swapping' out the dogs lol). Most of the EV's I see around here are.....Tesla Tesla Tesla, must be some money floating around! (Or there is a lot of debt building, one or the other!)
For the random unlocking / keyless entry issue, my solution was to purchase RFID blocking pouches to place the key fob in when you're at home. This blocks the wireless signal from reaching the vehicle and therefore the car stays locked even if you're standing next to the car with the key fob in the pouch. It also prevents wireless relay vehicle theft as the low life scum car criminals cannot intercept the signal, Purchased mine from Amazon (POWR 2 x Car Key Signal Blocker Pouch) and I'm very pleased with them.
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. As you say, an RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked. I agree with you that the only way to be certain that low-life thieves can't steal your pride and joy is to block access to the key using the pouch.
This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E). Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in. Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained accesss without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)
@@IanSampsonRLO The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
@ian, Could you talk about your typical usage of the car? As you are pretty rural, it would interesting to know. This car seems ideal for semi-rural, near a town but was worried about it's 'city' positioning. I'm moving back to the UK in a month or so, so I really don't have any idea what my typical usage will be!
So if they had put " normal" door handles on it and standard wipers with no reversing camera all would have worked fine. Progress? I've had a CRZ for 5 years with no problems whatsoever so a big Honda fan. Will wait until the e has been out a while and the issues have been ironed out.
What are these like charging off the 3-pin plug at home. Does the plug get hot after a few hours or when it's getting that last 90-100% charge. Is it easy to set the start and stop times for charging, so I can charge at night during the cheap rate. Sorry for the daft questions.
Hi Ian.Great playlist.Keep up the hardwork.Im thinking of buying an Advanced model.I was wondering if Honda perform over the air firmware upgrades for this?Some of those niggles that you mentioned should be solved with software updates I would have thought.Has it updated since you've had yours?
I noticed while you're driving you have interior lights on is this necessary or can you turn them off. Surely this would save battery even if just a little
Great review and love the detail you go into, but it's really put me off this vehicle. I think people have had problems with thin paint on Hondas before, and I really couldn't be bothered with the problems the flush door handles bring, it's just form over function. Volvo have said they won't fit cameras instead of mirrors as, whilst there are small drag savings, all the processors use too much energy. This is a city car, so drag isn't really an issue (the same goes for the flush handles), but even a small increase in range by fitting conventional mirrors and naybe rducing the amount of screens, etc, would be very welcome. Finally, it's an expensive product, but not having some basic features such as split folding rear seats would really annoy me.
For such a great car, my problem is the tiny battery, Honda please please fit a bigger pack ideally 60kw ASAP we know a solid statev pack is in the works for the suv , if it can be fitted on this little wonder it would double eu sales easily
Solid state batteries seem to be coming ‘soon’ in the same way that nuclear fusion power is always about 10 years away. Once SS batteries are actually in production then we’ll have to see how long it takes until it makes it into a car. I doubt they’ll put them into the current cars but will wait for a new version.
@@SirHackaL0t. Clive toyota are launching an ev this year Japanese tokeo show it's an SUV but crucially it will have the world's first solid state pack. At this time there are very few details other than a charge 0-80 in about 15mins now we don't know what the pack size is yet but it would be nuts if it didn't match the density of vw Nissan ford etc in Japan the company often shares some parts with Honda so it is not unthinkable that a duel partnership could form
I have the exactly same Problem with the same window on the right! But as a Left-Hand-Drive Car I use the left door and left window much moore than the right! 🤔
Yes, the problem startet in winter time, I get the car in October. But the problem with the automatic function of the window lifters only occurs sometimes. Previously i had to retrain the automatic function of the window lifter right front door twice until now. Let's see how it develops in spring and summer
Can I ask a couple of questions please as I’m thinking about getting one of these. Firstly I watched another review and I think you mentioned this too but someone said when the heater was turned on it greatly reduced the battery power very quickly. How fast can this happen? Secondly it’s having the charger socket on the bonnet of the car. It looks quite vulnerable to getting wet. Any issues surrounding this please? Being a first time possible owner of my first EV can you tell me if I go to a fast charging station does it stop charging at 80% charge or can you go any higher. I heard the reason it charges to 80% on fast charge is to stop damage to the battery. I look forward to your comments or if anyone else can advise me that would be great. Thanks.
Hi Ian, I am close to leasing a Honda e. I am just wondering, should I decide for the basic model or the advanced? Why didn't you buy the basic model? And what are the differences between the two? Nice blog by the way. 👍🏼
TH-cam won’t let me post a link but if you Google ‘Honda e comparison’ and locate the genuine Honda site you can see all the differences between the two versions. COMPARE BEFORE YOU DECIDE Which Honda e is for right you? Why not make a quick comparison between the combinations of colours and features that are available to you; once you’re happy, you’ll soon be on your way to a whole new driving experience.
Hi nice vids but a question, this is an urban town car any you seem to spend a lot of your time driving on long country roads etc which is hardly town so rang is not likely to be ideal for this?
Thanks for the fine review, Ian. I cannot help thinking that, for the price charged, those niggles are unacceptable, most especially the lack of secure locking and the short range. In many areas of Britain doors spontaneously unlocking themselves would result in theft of, or from, the car. Insurance companies would take a dim view of that, and premiums will reflect that serious fault. Are you sure that you don't have a faulty key fob? Also, is someone's microwave oven, mobile phone, or another local radio transmitter causing the unlocking? It would be sensible to report it to Honda, because they might have a fix for the fault, if other people are experiencing similar troubles. If you think that the key fob being too close to the car is the issue, then you could try putting it inside a shielded enclosure including your microwave oven, and closing the door, as a one-off experiment,, to test the theory. If that stops the problem, then you could buy or make a small RF absorbing wallet for the key. That will shorten the fob's ange nought to improve things.
Hi Ian, great videos. I'm interested in the env200 to convert into a campervan. The ones I'm looking at are around £27k as a private buyer. How did you purchase yours, as I seem to remember you saying it was about £15k. Many thanks.
Hi, got mine from Eastbourne and trailered over cant remember the exact price, think it was £17500 and got £1k back due to being missold (by mistake - should have been a 6.6kw charger on board, but was 3.3kw). Remember ours is a 24kwh not the newer 40kwh.
That unlocking thing is quite annoying. My Mk3 Honda Jazz does the same from time to time. Never got to the bottom of it but could be a Honda issue as opposed to just the "E"
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. An RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked.
@Peter Copied from another reply I made: This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E). Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in. Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained accesss without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)
The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
Ian can you get roof racks for them? Auto lights are horrible so are electric hand brakes. I put the auto hand brake on yesterday on my wheels, jumped out of the car only to find it rolling towards me seconds later. Horrible! 153bhp phaorrr!!
Personally I've never used my thumb on the top of handle. Two ways have worked for me, a light pull followed after 1sec pause with a firmer tug or else two quicker tugs on the handle 1st time.
The thing that really irritates me about it is it has 2 squillion cameras and like just about every carmaker out there - doesn't allow recording for crash purposes! So you buy your fancy e with every gadget ever and immediately need to wire in a stupid crash cam.
@@IanSampsonRLO I really wish I could agree, but considering there hasn't been a single update in a year whilst the VW ID3 has had 3 including one that added major new features, I wait with bated breath.
So why none of ur videos talk about underwhelming sound system? Do u think small car so expensive and beautiful interior should have a decent sound system?
Entire car spot on...bonnet not so - but apparently I have been told the chunk is actually caused by someone lifting wiper arm with bonnet closed. As I have not done this can only assume it was whilst the car was being washed on the forecourt
Dont think it would have gone with it if they were not there (along with all the other design and performance flares) - its what makes the package what it is. The displays use minimal power and as far as I am aware are driven off the 12v battery.
Its funny how the video comes across, to try and not keep saying the Honda E is the best car I have ever owned (from a tech and driving style stand point) I am merely raising some little frustration points....the car is AMAZING!
It's most interesting reading about all the various problems with the Honda e. Before buying my very first ev last June I did a lot of research and it was a very close thing indeed between the Honda e and the Renault Zoe, metaphorically less than paper-thin distance between the two come decision time. I'm glad I opted for the latter and I've had no problems of any kind whatsoever, going a long way to allay my fears on the subject given Renault's appalling record for reliability and build quality. What attracted me to the Honda e was the fact that they do it in my favourite colour, yellow, plus those innovative door cameras. What hugely put me off was the lamentably small boot, the extremely poor range and that mass of dashboard screen gimmickry, which feature I opine is laughable, ludicrous overkill; stupidity on stilts. I could never live with all that stuff constantly in my face. Also, it's overpriced in my view, taking into account its shortcomings. Although no one's mentined it what further drew me away from the Japanese contender for my wallet was a smattering of press test drive reports highlighting poor graphics on the satnav map. The Zoe falls down in the satnav department via the annoyingly indistinct voice-over instructions - initially clear but when the secondary directions come on board suddenly, for reasons I'll never understand, they're muffled and hurried. Grrrrrrrrrrr!
Ian, would you be kind enough, please, to revert to your previous car, the Renault Zoe, and (if you can) clarify something for me to do with its satnav functionality? Admittedly yours was not the latest model that I have but my problem is I'm an octogenarian technophobe - would you believe that though I've had the car ten months I've still not discovered how to switch on the radio - and later this year, Covid restrictions allowing, I want to take the care to Eire. Pursuant, tell me two things (keep it simple!): 1. without my having to do anything whatsoever to the device, will it work a u t o m a t i c a l l y over there in Southern Ireland, ie I'd hopefully be able to tap in the post codes or street names in that country in the normal way and hey presto the car would, as here in the UK, direct me to my destination OR 2. must I necessarily get someone to •reprogram• the satnav contraption in order for it to do its job in that foreign country? >Which of those two scenarios is the answer?< Over to you or indeed anyone else who's got a 2020 Zoe (Iconic in my case).
Thanks. Most kind of you. However, I aborted my early membership because one induvudual massively humiliated me responding to a question I raised about the driving function given this was my first ever ev. Not only, repeat, am I a terribly ancient technophobe but I'd never driven an automatic car before and the very thing that I wanted to avoid did indeed happen (my query at the time via the club was designed to avoid the problem) , viz on the lengthy drive home from the dealership, four times I came to a dead stop, once a mere few hundred metres into my homeward drive and once, later, in the fast lane no less. Each time I had difficulty restarting, being totally in ignorance of what to do; it's a mercy and a miracle that I didn't cause a multiple pile-up. Because of pandemic restrictions at the time of both ordering and collecting the car they couldn't let me have a test drive so, come deliverly day, I was a babe in arms as it were let loose on an entirely unfamiliar and, in the context of which I'm speaking, 'intimidating' vehicle. So, no, for the reason stated I baled from the RZOC after that indelibly memorable occurrence despite that 99% of the folks were very helpful about a number of other queries I raised.
@@DavidHughes-op6zl That's unfortunate David. With all due respect I think you'd benefit from one or two driving lessons, with varying driving scenarios, with a qualified driving instructor, your confidence will immensely improve, and, as they say, we're never too old to learn. Stay safe.
Hi David I live in Dublin and i owned an Renault Zoe imported from the UK by Electricautos.ie The Navigation Maps covers the UK & Ireland and possibly Europe but never checked, so you should have no issues. Saying that i preferred to use my Android Phone Googles Maps for Navigation , so just make sure your Data Package that covers republic of Ireland or pick up a Simm Card from 3 Mobile , Vodaphone etc when you arrive at any phone shop. If you ring your phone provider they can also add on a Data Package for ROI as youll need that for viewing Maps, so you dont incur costly charges for using data outside uk.
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. As you say, an RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked. I agree with you that the only way to be certain that low-life thieves can't steal your pride and joy is to block access to the key using the pouch.
Copied from my reply above @Leslie: "This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E). Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in. Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained access without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)"
The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
Virtual ev disaster, especially for honda , expensive, no range , no hot hatch and designed externally by a buddin 5yr old . Production closed for good . Sold over 3 years World Wide just 12000 units 😢😢😢😢😢 stupid honda , cost them about 200,000 per unit 😢😢😢😢
But Ian, it costs 30 grand and only has 100 miles range and is ugly. I can get a Peugeot for 50 pence that does 500 miles and is built like a Yugo!!! -every comment ever about this car
@@IanSampsonRLO I jest, I see a total mix on Honda's sponsored posts for the car on Facebook. The reviewers have all adored it so it can't be representative of the hate I see for it on that sponsored post.
Honda and Toyota are slow to embrace all electric vehicles. You would thing manufacturers from Japan, an island nation, would be more environmentally conscious. I guess sighting nuclear reactors on the coast with rising sea level might also be a concern. Seems like short term thinking and not worrying about long term consequences is a human trait.
Nice review.
Let me tell you something that is quite quite shocking and a surprise.
My main car is a V6 3.0 Porsche Macan S and i bought the Honda E as a 2nd car city runaround.
Since purchase I have stopped driving my Porsche and I drive this instead.
No lie this car has the best and most composed ride of any car I have ever owned !!
Haha exactly the same here. Even sold my 6series V8 BMW with 450HP because I only drove with the Honda e since I got it :)
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The car is good just people in Uk are always complaining for everything god is just so annoying
1. The paint chip on the bonnet edge is caused by lifting the wiper arm up when the bonnet is closed, the wiper arm strikes the bonnet edge. I found the same issue after I’d arrived home with my Honda e. I’m waiting for better weather to fit a small protective pad on both wiper arms to stop this happening again. It’s not just a Honda issue, it occurs with other manufacturers too.
2. The three raised ridges on top of the door handle are the contact point for locking the vehicle, not for unlocking the vehicle. Touching the three raised ridges once locks the vehicle, and if you keep hold of the handle and touch the three raised ridges again within a few seconds it activates the deadlocks. The contact point for unlocking the vehicle is under the handle, but I find that a little fiddly. Alternatively you can pull the handle out once, the window will drop, and the vehicle will unlock. Pull the handle out a second time to open the door. Obviously the key can also be used to unlock and lock the vehicle, but like you, I prefer the convenience of leaving the key in my pocket. Also note the vehicle does not auto lock. We previously had three Zoes and enjoyed the auto lock convenience. You must always lock the Honda e using either the key, or as described above. You can also lock the vehicle using the small button located within the tailgate handle, press once to lock, press again within a few seconds to deadlock the vehicle.
3. The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give you access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle as mentioned in 2. above. As mentioned by another commenter, a Faraday pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked.
We part-exchanged two Zoes for the Honda e and have no regrets whatsoever, and range isn’t an issue for us. In September we’ll be driving our Honda e over 200 miles to attend the Fully Charged OUTSIDE 2021 event in Farnborough, we’re looking forward to it.
1. Agree....never lifted the arm so dealer damage most likely (or the person who washes the cars on the forecourt)
2. Interestingly mine doesn't work correctly in wet weather (in the video that was a clip to vaguely demo what I meant....I have another clip where I try around 40-50 times to get the stupid thing to open....nope..no chance, in the end, all the stuff on the floor and pressed the key to make the car open, another time I actually had to go around to the boot, open that and then close it to drop the locks on the drivers door!) Most of the time ok, occasionally totally hopeless system.
3. Such a shame - a missed opportunity (seeing as there are so many options to play with on this car...having this as a selectable option within the menu or via the app would be spot on...as long as that was combined with autolock of course...which sadly isnt a thing).
Niggles....got to love em.
About the wipers you need to put them in maintenance mode to be able to lift them without damaging the bonnet. Within 5 seconds after you switch off the car pull up the wipers switch and hold it until they move up the automatically.
@@TheReubenBonnici It’s an accident waiting to happen at a hand car wash, they’ll just lift the arms to wipe under the blades and then the damage is done, that’s why I’m cleaning my own car from now on.
@@sib4897 or do the proceedure for them before giving them the car. The wipers will move to the up position where can be safely lifted
The Tesla Model 3 has a wiper service mode which puts the wipers up higher so this doesn’t happen.
I’ve got one on order since January, it’s due in April hopefully.
I was dithering until a watched this video.
Nice to hear a good honest unbiased opinion.
The smile every time you get in is what I’m after!
Sticking with ordered !!!
Thanks
Awesome!
I picked up my Honda E last weekend and I agree it’s just so much fun!
It really is!
I'm down for a test drive of the Fiat 500. I love the idea of the Honda, and like you say if it could do 200 miles, I think I'd have already bought one.
I’ve had mine for 6 months and as you say it always puts a smile on my face. I’ve had none of the issues you mention except when it’s frozen the doors are hard to open with the automatic window drop - in fact I left it to warm up before using as I was afraid of damage. Also the app on my phone won’t communicate with the car when it’s in my drive any more. Good video, would you let me know when you visit my dealer Cheshire Oaks Honda?
I have to agree with you on always smiling when you get in your EV. Same here. Last June (2020) I bought a used 2016 Kia Soul EV+ (my very first electric car) without ever having driven it or even stepping foot in an electric car before because it was an excellent deal: Less than $13000 (US), less than 18000 miles and one owner, no accidents, etc. Every time I get in it I enjoy it, without fail. It is exceptionally well made: Every switch, knob, dial, lever and so on has a solid well-made feel to it, no wiggle, no squeaks, etc. Very smooth car. And even though it is only rated at 109HP it FEELS much faster (especially from 0 to about 45mph) because of the instant torque. Great car. And costing only about $2 or $3 to "fill up" is also very nice!
Thanks to the algorithm for bringing me here.
Absolutely real world review without any of the frills or memes.
Much Appreciated and instant sub from me
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Awesome!
Considering buying a Honda e, doing some research on TH-cam. Hey, that looks like the guy from Real Life Gadget Reviews (already a subscriber over there, love the content!). Well bloody hell, it is. Watched the entire e series since yesterday. Best review online. Looking forward to following the next 45k miles.
Thanks Dave, glad you could join the journey!
Nice update. Pity about the range but an improved charging network would also fix that.
Very true, a double up of rapids would probably be enough for those wishing to long drive it!
@@IanSampsonRLO Agreed - I also think 10A sockets pretty much everywhere would make a day trip easy (quite often car parks have rapid chargers with a 1 hour max stay, I don't want to have to go back and move the car after an hour if I am at the coast for the day and slow charging is fine then)
@@robsmith1a 10A isn’t enough. Either 32A single phase or three phase should be the lowest standard. 10A can literally take more than a day to charge an EV with a decent sized battery.
More chargers doesn’t help with a small range car. Yes it’s great that you aren’t stranded but having to stop every hour or so is frustrating.
@@SirHackaL0t. I am not thinking about charging a car from empty to full. When I had a Zoe I found the granny cable (10A) was very useful if I visited a relative for the day to top me up enough to get home (it added 10 miles of range per hour). Cars spend a lot of time parked and I think many three pin plug type places to plug in at a destination is much better than rapid chargers where you can only park for a short time. I agree that 7kw would be much faster but if you are parked for several hours you are then blocking the charging post. I admit if you have something very inefficient you won't find 10a very useful but in many ways that is a fault with the car and even at rapid chargers it compromises that car in terms of miles added per minute. When making a stop on a long journey the faster the charging the better (at present a Tesla the only really good option for that but hopefully things will change, Tesla also have a lof of 7 / 11 kw destination chargers at places like hotels).
Ordered one on the strength of your videos alone, can't wait!! Say hi to the Glasgow Honda branch for me :-)
Brilliant, you will love it!
@@IanSampsonRLO You were right. Picked it up last night. I do love it.
Great video. It’s top of my wife’s list for her next car.
I would definitely be pushing Honda to respray the bonnet.
Thanks for tuning in! She will love it. Its an amazing little car.
Great vid! I love the idea of the Honda, I have an i3S (rex) and think it's brilliant - fun and also quirky, so I love the idea of the fun and quirky Honda, and I've heard lots of people say the ride is fantastic - not a praise levelled at the i3s (though i find it perfectly fine - but then I came from a lowered mini lol!). it's just the range/efficiency that would put me off as having the rex currenty I have little range anxiety - though i do drive it like a full EV (up to about 120 miles on a charge) I don't have a second car for longer journeys - the i3S is THE car. Can't wait to see what Honda do next!!
Yeah looking forward to it, a performance version, like a R version would be AMAZING, unleash its full potential.
Ended up with a 2019 Hyundai ioniq instead of this due to the wait times. Finally pulled the trigger on trading it in for the Honda e! Have driven it a few times at the dealer, and am so excited to own one!
Nice one, hows it going?
Very honest review, thank you.
just found your channel...and subscribed - maybe you talk about the (non) wing mirrors elsewhere but would have been good to hear your experience of these as well as the rear view one.
I have my Honda E coming from Yeomans of Churt in two weeks A really good company to deal with and the salesman Mark Cronin is very helpful. I still have range anxiety but I feel sure this will pass. So I am really looking forward to getting it. I will let you know when I have had it for a few weeks.
Hows it going?
haha definitely do not get a Pug if you want a clean car, they shed constantly and mine loves to sneeze on the windows the little shit. I've only seen 1 Honda E on the roads in the North East, by the way, seems to be incredibly uncommon. Electric cars aren't massively popular yet, it's mainly Model 3's and quite a few Leaf's with us having Nissan locally I suppose.
ha ha, right, cross pug off the list ;) (I have no intention of 'swapping' out the dogs lol). Most of the EV's I see around here are.....Tesla Tesla Tesla, must be some money floating around! (Or there is a lot of debt building, one or the other!)
For the random unlocking / keyless entry issue, my solution was to purchase RFID blocking pouches to place the key fob in when you're at home. This blocks the wireless signal from reaching the vehicle and therefore the car stays locked even if you're standing next to the car with the key fob in the pouch. It also prevents wireless relay vehicle theft as the low life scum car criminals cannot intercept the signal, Purchased mine from Amazon (POWR 2 x Car Key Signal Blocker Pouch) and I'm very pleased with them.
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. As you say, an RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked. I agree with you that the only way to be certain that low-life thieves can't steal your pride and joy is to block access to the key using the pouch.
This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E).
Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in.
Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained accesss without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)
@@IanSampsonRLO The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
@ian, Could you talk about your typical usage of the car? As you are pretty rural, it would interesting to know. This car seems ideal for semi-rural, near a town but was worried about it's 'city' positioning. I'm moving back to the UK in a month or so, so I really don't have any idea what my typical usage will be!
So if they had put " normal" door handles on it and standard wipers with no reversing camera all would have worked fine. Progress?
I've had a CRZ for 5 years with no problems whatsoever so a big Honda fan. Will wait until the e has been out a while and the issues have been ironed out.
5000 miles and 5k views on this video. Just wondering which one is going to happen first. 50k miles or 50k views 😉😭🤣
Ha ha good point! Unlikely to get 50k views though, the algorithm doesn’t allow it!
Only thing i want turned off when i get one is to turn off keyless entry. Relay attacks are so damn easy it's just an unnecessary vulnerability
What are these like charging off the 3-pin plug at home. Does the plug get hot after a few hours or when it's getting that last 90-100% charge.
Is it easy to set the start and stop times for charging, so I can charge at night during the cheap rate. Sorry for the daft questions.
I really hope these come to the states with a mileage of at least 300 miles.
LOVE HONDA E
Me too!
Hi Ian.Great playlist.Keep up the hardwork.Im thinking of buying an Advanced model.I was wondering if Honda perform over the air firmware upgrades for this?Some of those niggles that you mentioned should be solved with software updates I would have thought.Has it updated since you've had yours?
No update to my knowledge so far, they can do ota though, hoping more to come tbh!
sounds like you need a faraday pouch to store your keys in the house - will stop scallies stealing it too
I noticed while you're driving you have interior lights on is this necessary or can you turn them off. Surely this would save battery even if just a little
I love that car. I’m just not sure I should get an electric car. I’m considering the Corolla hybrid instead but I’d really love the Honda E instead…
Please can you do a video on low speed follow, I think people forget this feature and when using it practically drives it's self while under 30mph
What’s the worse winter range you had with heating on etc ?
About 75 at a guess. If you hammer the nuts of it (like any even) then you could get lower...but you would need a race track
@@IanSampsonRLO 2011 Nissan Leaf range.
If only it had just a litte bit more range… Like 5-7kWh more, it’d be a much more useable 2nd car for us
Great review and love the detail you go into, but it's really put me off this vehicle. I think people have had problems with thin paint on Hondas before, and I really couldn't be bothered with the problems the flush door handles bring, it's just form over function. Volvo have said they won't fit cameras instead of mirrors as, whilst there are small drag savings, all the processors use too much energy. This is a city car, so drag isn't really an issue (the same goes for the flush handles), but even a small increase in range by fitting conventional mirrors and naybe rducing the amount of screens, etc, would be very welcome. Finally, it's an expensive product, but not having some basic features such as split folding rear seats would really annoy me.
180km on one charge?
That’s my daily commute.
Great video thanks
Cheers!
For such a great car, my problem is the tiny battery, Honda please please fit a bigger pack ideally 60kw ASAP we know a solid statev pack is in the works for the suv , if it can be fitted on this little wonder it would double eu sales easily
That would be a total game changer.
Solid state batteries seem to be coming ‘soon’ in the same way that nuclear fusion power is always about 10 years away.
Once SS batteries are actually in production then we’ll have to see how long it takes until it makes it into a car. I doubt they’ll put them into the current cars but will wait for a new version.
@@SirHackaL0t. Clive toyota are launching an ev this year Japanese tokeo show it's an SUV but crucially it will have the world's first solid state pack. At this time there are very few details other than a charge 0-80 in about 15mins now we don't know what the pack size is yet but it would be nuts if it didn't match the density of vw Nissan ford etc in Japan the company often shares some parts with Honda so it is not unthinkable that a duel partnership could form
@@ram64man Launching or actually delivering the car to customers?
@@SirHackaL0t. launching there are siloette and front wing shots a similar design lines to the rav 4 that's all we know at your he moment
12:23 that drift, damn
Got mine , had a week ,love it 😀😀😀😀.
Congrats!
One thing that annoys me is the sound of stones flicking up and hitting body work going down roads. Didn't notice in my petrol car
Notice that LOADS in the Honda
Honda offers mud guards as accessories. Maybe they could help?
I have the exactly same Problem with the same window on the right! But as a Left-Hand-Drive Car I use the left door and left window much moore than the right! 🤔
Interesting! So its not because of use then. Was temp cold?
Yes, the problem startet in winter time, I get the car in October.
But the problem with the automatic function of the window lifters only occurs sometimes. Previously i had to retrain the automatic function of the window lifter right front door twice until now.
Let's see how it develops in spring and summer
Can I ask a couple of questions please as I’m thinking about getting one of these. Firstly I watched another review and I think you mentioned this too but someone said when the heater was turned on it greatly reduced the battery power very quickly. How fast can this happen? Secondly it’s having the charger socket on the bonnet of the car. It looks quite vulnerable to getting wet. Any issues surrounding this please? Being a first time possible owner of my first EV can you tell me if I go to a fast charging station does it stop charging at 80% charge or can you go any higher. I heard the reason it charges to 80% on fast charge is to stop damage to the battery. I look forward to your comments or if anyone else can advise me that would be great. Thanks.
Hi Ian, I am close to leasing a Honda e. I am just wondering, should I decide for the basic model or the advanced? Why didn't you buy the basic model? And what are the differences between the two? Nice blog by the way. 👍🏼
TH-cam won’t let me post a link but if you Google ‘Honda e comparison’ and locate the genuine Honda site you can see all the differences between the two versions.
COMPARE BEFORE YOU DECIDE
Which Honda e is for right you? Why not make a quick comparison between the combinations of colours and features that are available to you; once you’re happy, you’ll soon be on your way to a whole new driving experience.
Hi nice vids but a question, this is an urban town car any you seem to spend a lot of your time driving on long country roads etc which is hardly town so rang is not likely to be ideal for this?
Not had any issues to date. Range not an issue really - only if there are no chargers - then it could be.
Thanks for the fine review, Ian. I cannot help thinking that, for the price charged, those niggles are unacceptable, most especially the lack of secure locking and the short range. In many areas of Britain doors spontaneously unlocking themselves would result in theft of, or from, the car. Insurance companies would take a dim view of that, and premiums will reflect that serious fault.
Are you sure that you don't have a faulty key fob? Also, is someone's microwave oven, mobile phone, or another local radio transmitter causing the unlocking? It would be sensible to report it to Honda, because they might have a fix for the fault, if other people are experiencing similar troubles.
If you think that the key fob being too close to the car is the issue, then you could try putting it inside a shielded enclosure including your microwave oven, and closing the door, as a one-off experiment,, to test the theory. If that stops the problem, then you could buy or make a small RF absorbing wallet for the key. That will shorten the fob's ange nought to improve things.
Flaking paint on what is essentially a new car is a Really Bad Thing. What have Honda said about it?
My missus had the chance to get the Mazda MX30 from work as a company car. She got something else instead. I nearly cried 😭
lol Doh!
@@IanSampsonRLO she's worried about range. I tried explaining that we haven't gone further than ten miles from the house in over 12 months!!!
Hi Ian, great videos. I'm interested in the env200 to convert into a campervan. The ones I'm looking at are around £27k as a private buyer. How did you purchase yours, as I seem to remember you saying it was about £15k. Many thanks.
Hi, got mine from Eastbourne and trailered over cant remember the exact price, think it was £17500 and got £1k back due to being missold (by mistake - should have been a 6.6kw charger on board, but was 3.3kw).
Remember ours is a 24kwh not the newer 40kwh.
@@IanSampsonRLO Thank you for your reply Ian. Have a great day!
That unlocking thing is quite annoying. My Mk3 Honda Jazz does the same from time to time. Never got to the bottom of it but could be a Honda issue as opposed to just the "E"
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. An RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked.
@Peter Copied from another reply I made: This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E).
Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in.
Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained accesss without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)
The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
Are you still happy with the Honda E?
Hi Ian what are you using to film? Looks like a osmo? If so what are you using to mount it inside the car ?
Inside shots are x2 GoPro Hero 9’s. (Suction mounts).
Ian can you get roof racks for them? Auto lights are horrible so are electric hand brakes. I put the auto hand brake on yesterday on my wheels, jumped out of the car only to find it rolling towards me seconds later. Horrible! 153bhp phaorrr!!
I am not sure if you can, its a class room you see.
@@IanSampsonRLO Don’t you just love auto-correct ‘class room’ I believe should read ‘glass roof’. 🙂
@@sib4897 ☺️
Thoroughbly. ;-)
😂
I usually just pull twice on my door handle, first to unlock the car, then to open the door.
In wet its a no go...got footage of me pulling the handle around 50 times calmly in a row...hopeless at times!
Personally I've never used my thumb on the top of handle. Two ways have worked for me, a light pull followed after 1sec pause with a firmer tug or else two quicker tugs on the handle 1st time.
The ridges on top off handle are for locking NOT unlocking. To unlock just put fingers in under handle and it will unlock.
How is it performing at hills? Stopping and going at steep slopes?
No issues at all. Spot on!
@@IanSampsonRLO thanks :)
that sounds like a lot of problems but your cars do get used a lot its a workhorse so it could be just wear and tear
After only 5,500 miles of driving?
For the price range should not be in question , 200 miles , how many miles does it do?
Winter: th-cam.com/video/Kq6IiGrT0zg/w-d-xo.html
The thing that really irritates me about it is it has 2 squillion cameras and like just about every carmaker out there - doesn't allow recording for crash purposes! So you buy your fancy e with every gadget ever and immediately need to wire in a stupid crash cam.
Agree, wonder if in a firmware update it will become a feature!
@@IanSampsonRLO I really wish I could agree, but considering there hasn't been a single update in a year whilst the VW ID3 has had 3 including one that added major new features, I wait with bated breath.
No video for 4 months , what’s happening!
Covid
So why none of ur videos talk about underwhelming sound system? Do u think small car so expensive and beautiful interior should have a decent sound system?
Actually no other youtuber found it worth mentioning. Makes me think, m i the only one bothered by it lol.
Sounds is brilliant, no complaints from me anyhow
sorry mate audio so bad I had to switch off
Ok.
How come Telsas get bad press for paint when ‘traditional’ car manufacturers can have giant chunks fall off and it’s not national press time? Lol.
Entire car spot on...bonnet not so - but apparently I have been told the chunk is actually caused by someone lifting wiper arm with bonnet closed. As I have not done this can only assume it was whilst the car was being washed on the forecourt
@@IanSampsonRLO I saw that post. Bad design really. Lol.
What mode do you normally drive in?
'Normal' mode, Sport is a bit to pokey for my liking....unless I get a bit keen!
@@IanSampsonRLO and what about one pedal mode?
All the time pretty much, + the auto cruise control and lane steer
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There appears to be a lot of road noise?
On GoPro mic yeah. Nothing unusual with that though (mic on me didnt work)
You're talking about a Honda you're not talking about Peugeot or Renault
Can you turn the displays off?
Yes, you can turn them off (completely off - not just dark screen).
@@IanSampsonRLO great, I wonder what all unnecessary gimmicks can be turned off to increase mileage. I was also wondering about weight reduction.
Dont think it would have gone with it if they were not there (along with all the other design and performance flares) - its what makes the package what it is. The displays use minimal power and as far as I am aware are driven off the 12v battery.
very sad. this is like nissan problems.
Its funny how the video comes across, to try and not keep saying the Honda E is the best car I have ever owned (from a tech and driving style stand point) I am merely raising some little frustration points....the car is AMAZING!
It's most interesting reading about all the various problems with the Honda e. Before buying my very first ev last June I did a lot of research and it was a very close thing indeed between the Honda e and the Renault Zoe, metaphorically less than paper-thin distance between the two come decision time. I'm glad I opted for the latter and I've had no problems
of any kind whatsoever, going a long way to allay my fears on the subject given Renault's appalling record for reliability and build quality. What attracted me to the Honda e was the fact that they do it in my favourite colour, yellow, plus those innovative door cameras. What hugely put me off was the lamentably small boot, the extremely poor range and that mass of dashboard screen gimmickry, which feature I opine is laughable, ludicrous overkill; stupidity on stilts. I could never live with all that stuff constantly in my face. Also, it's overpriced in my view, taking into account its shortcomings. Although no one's mentined it what further drew me away from the Japanese contender for my wallet was a smattering of press test drive reports highlighting poor graphics on the satnav map. The Zoe falls down in the satnav department via the annoyingly indistinct voice-over instructions - initially clear but when the secondary directions come on board suddenly, for reasons I'll never understand, they're muffled and hurried. Grrrrrrrrrrr!
Android Auto and Google Maps is our default in the Honda e, as it was in all our Zoes.
Ian, would you be kind enough, please, to revert to your previous car, the Renault Zoe, and (if you can) clarify something for me to do with its satnav functionality? Admittedly yours was not the latest model that I have but my problem is I'm an octogenarian technophobe - would you believe that though I've had the car ten months I've still not discovered how to switch on the radio - and later this year, Covid restrictions allowing, I want to take the care to Eire. Pursuant, tell me two things (keep it simple!): 1. without my having to do anything whatsoever to the device, will it work a u t o m a t i c a l l y over there in Southern Ireland, ie I'd hopefully be able to tap in the post codes or street names in that country in the normal way and hey presto the car would, as here in the UK, direct me to my destination OR 2. must I necessarily get someone to •reprogram• the satnav contraption in order for it to do its job in that foreign country?
>Which of those two scenarios is the answer?<
Over to you or indeed anyone else who's got a 2020 Zoe (Iconic in my case).
@David Hughes Head over to RZOC (Renault Zoe Owners’ Club), Google RZOC, you’ll get all the help you need, they’re a friendly bunch.
Thanks. Most kind of you. However, I aborted my early membership because one induvudual massively humiliated me responding to a question I raised about the driving function given this was my first ever ev. Not only, repeat, am I a terribly ancient technophobe but I'd never driven an automatic car before and the very thing that I wanted to avoid did indeed happen (my query at the time via the club was designed to avoid the problem) , viz on the lengthy drive home from the dealership, four times I came to a dead stop, once a mere few hundred metres into my homeward drive and once, later, in the fast lane no less. Each time I had difficulty restarting, being totally in ignorance of what to do; it's a mercy and a miracle that I didn't cause a multiple pile-up. Because of pandemic restrictions at the time of both ordering and collecting the car they couldn't let me have a test drive so, come deliverly day, I was a babe in arms as it were let loose on an entirely unfamiliar and, in the context of which I'm speaking, 'intimidating' vehicle. So, no, for the reason stated I baled from the RZOC after that indelibly memorable occurrence despite that 99% of the folks were very helpful about a number of other queries I raised.
@@DavidHughes-op6zl That's unfortunate David. With all due respect I think you'd benefit from one or two driving lessons, with varying driving scenarios, with a qualified driving instructor, your confidence will immensely improve, and, as they say, we're never too old to learn. Stay safe.
Hi David I live in Dublin and i owned an Renault Zoe imported from the UK by Electricautos.ie The Navigation Maps covers the UK & Ireland and possibly Europe but never checked, so you should have no issues. Saying that i preferred to use my Android Phone Googles Maps for Navigation , so just make sure your Data Package that covers republic of Ireland or pick up a Simm Card from 3 Mobile , Vodaphone etc when you arrive at any phone shop.
If you ring your phone provider they can also add on a Data Package for ROI as youll need that for viewing Maps, so you dont incur costly charges for using data outside uk.
Just put your key in a Faraday pouch. Problem solved but you're right it shouldn't unlock itself
The auto pop out handles that activate when it detects the key are simply to give access to the handle, there is no auto unlocking, or indeed auto locking, on the Honda e. The vehicle doesn’t unlock until you unlock the vehicle by using either the key, touching the underside of the popped out door handle, pulling on the popped out door handle once (and then again to open the then unlocked door), or by pushing the rear hatch opener switch. As you say, an RFID pouch, or keeping the key in another part of the house will solve the issue of the welcome lights and pop out handles inconveniently activating when the key is detected, but rest assured, even when this happens the vehicle is not unlocked. I agree with you that the only way to be certain that low-life thieves can't steal your pride and joy is to block access to the key using the pouch.
Copied from my reply above @Leslie:
"This is interesting; I am blessed to have the car parked offroad along side of house, BUT if it happened to be a street and not personal drive, it would present the handles (without any knowledge to myself) - let everyone know its now ready to simply be opened (as all they would have to do is touch the nicely presented handle and gain entry). The Zoe doesnt do this, they seem to have nailed the system (not talking pop out handles of course but the logic), that will open when button on outside of handle pressed AND auto lock once out of range (an advantage of it having 'poorer' range than the Honda E).
Although! I find the Zoe annoying as it autolocks when I go to plug in the the charge cable. This happens when the charge port cover refuses to open, I get out, go around to front to find it hasnt popped open, push on it, then go back around to press the charge port flap button again and Beep Beep (loud) it locks before I can get back in.
Its only niggles. But Like you say - a RFID Blocking pouch with the Honda E is really the only sure way to make sure no one has gained access without you realising (because like a peacock its pops handles out, turns on rear and front lights saying 'look at me, I am ready to be opened up' lol)"
The popped out handles do not allow anyone to open the door, the car is still locked, you need to have the key in close proximity to the car to unlock it. I’ve tested it by walking towards the car until the handles pop out, putting the key down at that point which is a few feet away from the car, and then approaching the car without the key in my possession, the door handles are still popped out but I can’t unlock the car or open the door. Nobody can unlock the car unless the key is in their possession.
Hi Ian am I able to private message you i have something to tell you but don't want to post it publicly
Yes email is in my about page
@@IanSampsonRLO I can't see it anywhere
Why do people in Europe complain so much? It's all complaining god it's unbearable
Virtual ev disaster, especially for honda , expensive, no range , no hot hatch and designed externally by a buddin 5yr old . Production closed for good . Sold over 3 years World Wide just 12000 units 😢😢😢😢😢 stupid honda , cost them about 200,000 per unit 😢😢😢😢
But Ian, it costs 30 grand and only has 100 miles range and is ugly. I can get a Peugeot for 50 pence that does 500 miles and is built like a Yugo!!!
-every comment ever about this car
Not my experience, lots of love for it, but yeah some like to be negative for sure!
@@IanSampsonRLO I jest, I see a total mix on Honda's sponsored posts for the car on Facebook. The reviewers have all adored it so it can't be representative of the hate I see for it on that sponsored post.
Honda and Toyota are slow to embrace all electric vehicles. You would thing manufacturers from Japan, an island nation, would be more environmentally conscious. I guess sighting nuclear reactors on the coast with rising sea level might also be a concern. Seems like short term thinking and not worrying about long term consequences is a human trait.