Thank you for clearly explaining everything in this video. I’ve seen a few others while disassembling this thing and they were not clear on how to do things such as winding the spring a rotation and such. You were by far the most understandable teacher lol
Their is a general purpose household cleaner called "Simple Green" that I use to clean most of my guns and magazines. Its good at removing old grease and carbon. It doesn't have fumes and it wont irritate your skin. Works great on steel and plastics. DO NOT us it on aluminum. You need a special formula called "PRO simple green" to clean aluminum. I don't know if it's available in Canada. If you can find it, it's good stuff.
Me too having issues can load a few then it acts like its not being taken up by the drum rotating at the bottom I first used 80 minimags hv 40 grain CCI 22LR and it fired ok next time tried the non waxed Remington Viper Federal American Eagle and Winchester Super Speed as was recommended ny GSG same problem funny thing is the minimags work with some skipping spaces again while the recommended ones dont .
Thank you for this video. I had watched one for the 522 I believe which had the older plastic strip of dummy rounds and I wasn’t sure if I put mine back in the right way. My mag was jammed with live rounds when I took it apart and all the rounds live and dummy came spewing out rapidly once I took the neck off. So far I can’t say I’m a fan of this drum mag. It’s a pain in the butt to load and one jam and your done.
I had the same thing happen this weekend! Sounds like there's 20 or more live rounds still in it, even though I loaded it properly. This is only the second time I've ever used it and now I guess I have to take it apart.
after being forced to use only 5 rds with center fire, im actually content with 22 rds so i have no need for a drum. i got 4 box mags if one jams, no biggie just sway to another.
The screws need T10 and T6 size star (not hex) bits to remove them -- got that info from another video about disassembling this drum, and tried it for myself and found that these work.
Thank you. Bought the drum new a few months ago, went to the range today and jammed after the 1st round . The 4 screws that hold the drum together were way to tight. Hopefully this will fix the issue👍🏻
My drum keeps sticking whenever i turn it to load, sprayed oil and it actually made it worse, no fkn idea how… seems like i’ll have to take it apart. Any idea what i need to clean or oil that could be causing that? Thank you!
if you got it new then probably the dummy rounds, check for burr. if you bought it used then check the attaching piece to the center shaft, that is not bent bcos it tends to rub against the body
@@gnutzguy It's weird, the only thing that fixed it was loosening the screws so the shell plate doesn't push against the spinning wheel. Now all my screws are kind of sticking out but it spins. The second i tighten them it pinches the wheel. No idea how this happened as i bought it new and never taken it apart before.
lol... the black dummy rounds are there to fill the neck bcos the silver piece cant move up the neck so if you lost a few then you can always use the orange ones.
CCi Blazer works very reliable with that mag, Gecko's semi - tend to to get a fail to load (but 1-2 rounds per 100 tend to jam so they seem okay) - i've had problems with plated Aguilas (failure to load tends to make a dent in the plated projectile and i've had to dump 2 out of 50 rounds), and the czech's Sellier and bellot also seemed to jam occasionaly. So far CCI blazer seem to be the best ones at least for the clip i have :) Heck after buying a shotgun im thinking of buying another one of those clips they are really fun - but man the ammo goes down quickly with one of those :D Im starting to think that buying 1k ammo might be a good idea :P
@@gnutzguy I now see only the CCI Round Nose 40 grain work with some skipped spaces also when it hits a empty you need to charge the bolt and maybe drop the mag out which is a pain as I have the Ruger 10/22 one with the goofy tab on front of trigger guard as you need to lock it back to put mag in and take it out no last round bolt hold option ! But I am getting the parts to make it one Also I have the BMF rotary crank ( which also works on the Mossberg 702 only 24 rd mags) which is a blast on this gun GO GATLING and a PROMAG 55 rd mag too. Note to use the BMF activator on the Mossberg you need a 23 mm long tab ( the longest one supplied is only 18 mm ) make out of a wooden popsicle stick. Have fun note 10 and 25 rd mags shoot quick every turn of the crank fires 4 shots
@user-te7br3qd1s yes I eventually got it back together. What a royal pain in the ass that was. There's a method to it. Can't quite remember exactly how I got it back together but it sucked.
@stardudez 0 seconds ago @gnutzguy I now see only the CCI Round Nose 40 grain work with some skipped spaces also when it hits a empty you need to charge the bolt and maybe drop the mag out which is a pain as I have the Ruger 10/22 one with the goofy tab on front of trigger guard as you need to lock it back to put mag in and take it out no last round bolt hold option ! But I am getting the parts to make it one Also I have the BMF rotary crank ( which also works on the Mossberg 702 only 24 rd mags) which is a blast on this gun GO GATLING and a PROMAG 55 rd mag too. Note to use the BMF activator on the Mossberg you need a 23 mm long tab ( the longest one supplied is only 18 mm ) make out of a wooden popsicle stick. Have fun note 10 and 25 rd mags shoot quick every turn of the crank fires 4 shots
That viedo was very handy because i bought one and then proceeded to toy with it - and it jammed thus i've had to remove the neck part to unjam those plastic rounds becuse they missaligned and jammed inside the neck - and this vid was very helpfull in making it work again.
Ive bought one and i have a very weird issue with it - when it's loaded i can insert it into the gun but as long as there are rounds in it i CAN't remove it xD - i have to dump all the rounds out and only then it will disengage from the gun xD i wonder what might be causing this issue :D It apperars that as long as there are rounds in it - the release level ain't working all the way in to release it. i have two normal mags as well but those work okay - loaded or not i can remove them at any time. Other than that i'm quite pleased with it :D because dumping the 100-rds down the range is quite fun :D
@@gnutzguy Ah i totally forgot about the clip release button on the right side xD (i've been using only the lever so far) - i will try it on the range - because i don't want to toy with live rounds at home :D - and i don't have enough .22lr dummy rounds to test it safely at home (i've got just the one that came with the gun :P)
@@gnutzguy Huh i've checked and YES - with the button on the right side it does release the drum :) - due to safety reasons i was testing it on the range but yes - if you cant use the lever then your only hope is the mag release button :D
@@gnutzguy yeah not going to lie I’m pretty upset. Not your fault, but definitely wish I just left it be. Not sure what I did differently and not sure what to do now.
@J C It's been a minute since I did it. If I remember correctly, I started with the outside of the spring by putting the hook of the spring into the plastic housing, then slowly fed the spring into the center. If that doesn't work try the reverse of it by starting with the center lining up the plastic pieces in the center of the spring then slowly feeding it to the outside and then placing the hook into its slot. Like I said it's been awhile since I did it so I can't remember exactly how I did it. Hope that was right tho
i shoot one of those yesterday - and i will tell you that it can be very fast to load when you know what to do - heck i would go even as far as to say that you can load box of ammo 50pieces faster into that drum than into two normal 22mags. That said if it jams then it is a headache to unjam it. But the look of other people at the range when you proceed to dump one of those down the range is preeeety sweet :D
I bought one of these drum mags a while back but due to work have been too busy to load it, or go shooting for that matter. Today, I brought it out to load and didnt even get 10 cartridges in and the damn thing jammed. Absolute piece of crap; yes, well built but absolute $#!T. And of course, bought too long ago to bring to Cabelas as I no longer have any idea where the receipt is!! Avoid this waste of money...
ive bought one and i was shooting with it yesterday - and i was pretty amazed by it - that said it's a drum and there is a reason why armies dont like to use drums - because yes drums are less reliable than box mags. so by buying a drum mag it is understood that at times the reliability issues might pop up and that is nothing new. i've noticed that as long as you load it properly aka not to allow to make a big gap by rotating the spring mechanism too much it is quite reliable because there is not enough room for the dummy rounds to missalign and jam. Heck at first i was toying with it and did just that and it jammed even without any real rounds - so yes proper handling of it is quite important.
i always under load as not to put too much stress on the spring, for the regular mag, i put 20 and a 100 on the drum. also its easier to keep track of the count
Thank you for clearly explaining everything in this video. I’ve seen a few others while disassembling this thing and they were not clear on how to do things such as winding the spring a rotation and such. You were by far the most understandable teacher lol
Glad it helped
I am fortunate to say I have had great luck with my 110rd drum for my GSG-16!!!! Good video!
Good stuff!
@@gnutzguy Hey since I got ya here. What thread pitch were you able to use on your 9inch barrel?
To those complaining about jamming, not feeding, etc. Read the manual. It is very specific on why you are having trouble.
Mine came with no manual
Search for a manual pdf on the internet
Okay so this comment is no help
@@hectorg7447 what are you referring to? Can't find the manual online OR the manual and my vid, both are no help?
Their is a general purpose household cleaner called "Simple Green" that I use to clean most of my guns and magazines. Its good at removing old grease and carbon. It doesn't have fumes and it wont irritate your skin. Works great on steel and plastics. DO NOT us it on aluminum. You need a special formula called "PRO simple green" to clean aluminum. I don't know if it's available in Canada. If you can find it, it's good stuff.
we have them here in canada .... thanks
@@gnutzguy do you have jammed ammo , if not ,what ammo you use ?
i did but i like using this . th-cam.com/video/quP7Fe9u8bs/w-d-xo.html
What can you do if it wont take the ammo? The round goes in but only halfway, will not fully seat to the back of feeding tube.
Me too having issues can load a few then it acts like its not being taken up by the drum rotating at the bottom I first used 80 minimags hv 40 grain CCI 22LR and it fired ok next time tried the non waxed Remington Viper Federal American Eagle and Winchester Super Speed as was recommended ny GSG same problem funny thing is the minimags work with some skipping spaces again while the recommended ones dont .
Thank you for this video. I had watched one for the 522 I believe which had the older plastic strip of dummy rounds and I wasn’t sure if I put mine back in the right way. My mag was jammed with live rounds when I took it apart and all the rounds live and dummy came spewing out rapidly once I took the neck off. So far I can’t say I’m a fan of this drum mag. It’s a pain in the butt to load and one jam and your done.
i hear ya. thats why its important to load properly.
I had the same thing happen this weekend! Sounds like there's 20 or more live rounds still in it, even though I loaded it properly. This is only the second time I've ever used it and now I guess I have to take it apart.
after being forced to use only 5 rds with center fire, im actually content with 22 rds so i have no need for a drum. i got 4 box mags if one jams, no biggie just sway to another.
@@gnutzguy fair enough, it's just fun on the range for me so I can excuse a jam or two. But I'll have to investigate the issues I'm having tonight.
Lol the big wire spring popped out of mines but I got it to get back in there but the hook part won’t stay on the black middle piece
it will stay if you start turn the center shaft.
Show me how, mine exploded! Lol
The screws need T10 and T6 size star (not hex) bits to remove them -- got that info from another video about disassembling this drum, and tried it for myself and found that these work.
Yeah its annoying that they couldnt make one size for all the screws.
hey. I have a question . Will the magazine fit the Henry AR-7 US survival Rifle 22 lr? I would be grateful for a hint. Regards
Thank you. Bought the drum new a few months ago, went to the range today and jammed after the 1st round . The 4 screws that hold the drum together were way to tight. Hopefully this will fix the issue👍🏻
loading is a PITA but IF you load them carefully, doing the drum dump is alot of fun.
If the spring comes un-done is there an easy way to put back?
im gonna guess bcos i've never done it before. insert the end of the spring into the center shaft and turn the key. good luck.
im considering change to 22 becauze the 223 price is crazy high now, i saw a bunch negative review about this drum mainly jamming.
Yup, it will happen if load the drum wrong
A drum restricted to 5 rounds? Please tell me I’m misunderstanding something
yup, you misunderstood. 5 rds applies to center fire ammo . 22lr has no limit.
Dang that still sucks
@@gnutzguy only in certain states.... 😉
i dont know about US but in Canada, no restriction on 22lr but center fire ammo. my drum is restricted to 5 rds ONLY. yes, its SUCKS.
My drum keeps sticking whenever i turn it to load, sprayed oil and it actually made it worse, no fkn idea how… seems like i’ll have to take it apart. Any idea what i need to clean or oil that could be causing that? Thank you!
if you got it new then probably the dummy rounds, check for burr. if you bought it used then check the attaching piece to the center shaft, that is not bent bcos it tends to rub against the body
@@gnutzguy ok thank you for replying!
@@gnutzguy It's weird, the only thing that fixed it was loosening the screws so the shell plate doesn't push against the spinning wheel. Now all my screws are kind of sticking out but it spins. The second i tighten them it pinches the wheel. No idea how this happened as i bought it new and never taken it apart before.
Do you need to lube this drum it says use Slip 2000 ? And non waxed ammo ?
i do lube with lithium.
what rounds would you recommend for loading im using herter's 22lr, drum will not accept these gun likes them thought lol
thats odd. most round nose HV should work.
what are the dummy rounds for cause b4 watching video i opened the neck and seem to of lost a few of them lol
lol... the black dummy rounds are there to fill the neck bcos the silver piece cant move up the neck so if you lost a few then you can always use the orange ones.
@@gnutzguy ok was there 9 in all?
i cant remember but it should reach the feeding lips if there are a gap then you need to add another one.
yes, 7 individual and 2 in a pair.
@@gnutzguy does the two piece follower touch the feeding lips?
Can I just take some balistol and spray a little bit in that hole? Btw great video!
thanks, probably be ok as long as you dont get it wet then you need to disassembly to clean.
What rounds do you recommend? I have Winchester 36 grain 1280 pfs hollows
I usually use cci mini mag but I will test few others soon so stay tuned.
@@gnutzguy thanks. I ended up getting some cci from my dad. I forgot that I had bought some for him earlier part of the year.
CCi Blazer works very reliable with that mag, Gecko's semi - tend to to get a fail to load (but 1-2 rounds per 100 tend to jam so they seem okay) - i've had problems with plated Aguilas (failure to load tends to make a dent in the plated projectile and i've had to dump 2 out of 50 rounds), and the czech's Sellier and bellot also seemed to jam occasionaly.
So far CCI blazer seem to be the best ones at least for the clip i have :) Heck after buying a shotgun im thinking of buying another one of those clips they are really fun - but man the ammo goes down quickly with one of those :D Im starting to think that buying 1k ammo might be a good idea :P
@@gnutzguy I now see only the CCI Round Nose 40 grain work with some skipped spaces also when it hits a empty you need to charge the bolt and maybe drop the mag out which is a pain as I have the Ruger 10/22 one with the goofy tab on front of trigger guard as you need to lock it back to put mag in and take it out no last round bolt hold option ! But I am getting the parts to make it one Also I have the BMF rotary crank ( which also works on the Mossberg 702 only 24 rd mags) which is a blast on this gun GO GATLING and a PROMAG 55 rd mag too. Note to use the BMF activator on the Mossberg you need a 23 mm long tab ( the longest one supplied is only 18 mm ) make out of a wooden popsicle stick. Have fun note 10 and 25 rd mags shoot quick every turn of the crank fires 4 shots
Just got one and it won’t lock into the magazine well.
check the mah catch isnt worn out and all the screws on the drum are tighten.
My spring jumped the fuck out of this thing as soon as I got the cover off. Why didn't yours do that? How do I wind this thing up again?
Dude mine did the same, did you ever wind that sucker back up 😢
@user-te7br3qd1s yes I eventually got it back together. What a royal pain in the ass that was. There's a method to it. Can't quite remember exactly how I got it back together but it sucked.
@MF-rtard89 I finally got it as well like you said, that sucker was a pain in my ass.
@user-te7br3qd1s yeah it's brutal isn't it, feels good once you got it back together tho eh
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@gnutzguy I now see only the CCI Round Nose 40 grain work with some skipped spaces also when it hits a empty you need to charge the bolt and maybe drop the mag out which is a pain as I have the Ruger 10/22 one with the goofy tab on front of trigger guard as you need to lock it back to put mag in and take it out no last round bolt hold option ! But I am getting the parts to make it one Also I have the BMF rotary crank ( which also works on the Mossberg 702 only 24 rd mags) which is a blast on this gun GO GATLING and a PROMAG 55 rd mag too. Note to use the BMF activator on the Mossberg you need a 23 mm long tab ( the longest one supplied is only 18 mm ) make out of a wooden popsicle stick. Have fun note 10 and 25 rd mags shoot quick every turn of the crank fires 4 shots
American Tactical says drum needs to be broke in and do not lube it
do as they say but it doesnt work then lube.
Have shot 3 times so far full load without problems using minimags other brands wont load correct
Any jams
jam will occur when its improperly loaded so follow my steps carefully.
That viedo was very handy because i bought one and then proceeded to toy with it - and it jammed thus i've had to remove the neck part to unjam those plastic rounds becuse they missaligned and jammed inside the neck - and this vid was very helpfull in making it work again.
make sure you tighten all the screws.
Same thing happened to me: was trying to clean the round entry port, jostled the dummy rounds, and needed this video to find out how to fix it.
Ive bought one and i have a very weird issue with it - when it's loaded i can insert it into the gun but as long as there are rounds in it i CAN't remove it xD - i have to dump all the rounds out and only then it will disengage from the gun xD i wonder what might be causing this issue :D It apperars that as long as there are rounds in it - the release level ain't working all the way in to release it.
i have two normal mags as well but those work okay - loaded or not i can remove them at any time.
Other than that i'm quite pleased with it :D because dumping the 100-rds down the range is quite fun :D
that does sound weird. try using the mag catch on the right side, push the button instead of using the lever.
@@gnutzguy Ah i totally forgot about the clip release button on the right side xD (i've been using only the lever so far) - i will try it on the range - because i don't want to toy with live rounds at home :D - and i don't have enough .22lr dummy rounds to test it safely at home (i've got just the one that came with the gun :P)
@@gnutzguy Huh i've checked and YES - with the button on the right side it does release the drum :) - due to safety reasons i was testing it on the range but yes - if you cant use the lever then your only hope is the mag release button :D
I noticed that too, it's the turning ear on the magazine, when it's at 12 it blocks the thumb lever from going far enough
thank you for this video, once i got mine i messed it up lol, this video helped me fix it.
quite easy to do. glad I could help
Opened this up and my whole fucking spring exploded and now I can’t get it back together.
sorry to hear that cos i was afraid do it myself.
@@gnutzguy yeah not going to lie I’m pretty upset. Not your fault, but definitely wish I just left it be. Not sure what I did differently and not sure what to do now.
@Lucas Davies I did the same thing but it's actually pretty easy to reload the spring, if you'd like I could try to talk you through it.
@@antia587 can you please explain how to do it 🙏🏼 or if you know any videos of it, thank you
@J C It's been a minute since I did it. If I remember correctly, I started with the outside of the spring by putting the hook of the spring into the plastic housing, then slowly fed the spring into the center. If that doesn't work try the reverse of it by starting with the center lining up the plastic pieces in the center of the spring then slowly feeding it to the outside and then placing the hook into its slot. Like I said it's been awhile since I did it so I can't remember exactly how I did it. Hope that was right tho
Loading that drum looks a right ball ache, i think i'll pass.
me too.
i shoot one of those yesterday - and i will tell you that it can be very fast to load when you know what to do - heck i would go even as far as to say that you can load box of ammo 50pieces faster into that drum than into two normal 22mags.
That said if it jams then it is a headache to unjam it.
But the look of other people at the range when you proceed to dump one of those down the range is preeeety sweet :D
If your going to make a video about actual assembly try SHOWING the way things go together!! Make sense pal?
hey pal, lol... please read disclaimer.
And thanks for not clearly showing which direction the so called follower goes I'm. I had to rewind ten times just to see which way the thing goes in.
10x? lol.... sorry, my vid is not made for you. please press next.
Thx u
you are welcome
I bought one of these drum mags a while back but due to work have been too busy to load it, or go shooting for that matter. Today, I brought it out to load and didnt even get 10 cartridges in and the damn thing jammed. Absolute piece of crap; yes, well built but absolute $#!T. And of course, bought too long ago to bring to Cabelas as I no longer have any idea where the receipt is!! Avoid this waste of money...
Did you load the drum as I instructed?
ive bought one and i was shooting with it yesterday - and i was pretty amazed by it - that said it's a drum and there is a reason why armies dont like to use drums - because yes drums are less reliable than box mags. so by buying a drum mag it is understood that at times the reliability issues might pop up and that is nothing new.
i've noticed that as long as you load it properly aka not to allow to make a big gap by rotating the spring mechanism too much it is quite reliable because there is not enough room for the dummy rounds to missalign and jam.
Heck at first i was toying with it and did just that and it jammed even without any real rounds - so yes proper handling of it is quite important.
I loaded 114 with no problem lol
i always under load as not to put too much stress on the spring, for the regular mag, i put 20 and a 100 on the drum. also its easier to keep track of the count