Nigel, I think Malaysia should be proud as you still establish yourself a Malaysian. You already have my respect and you're in the current bloom to being successful and I thank you for all the videos you make.
Michelle Yeoh, Jimmy Choo, Nigel Ng… they all are proud Malaysians (with ethnic Han Chinese background) who made their name famous in the western world and all around the world! Congratulations! 🥳🎊🎉👏👍🇲🇾🇬🇧🇺🇸🇫🇷🇨🇦🇨🇳🇸🇬🇹🇼🇮🇳🇦🇺🇭🇰🇳🇿🇮🇩🥰🌎🌍🌏🥰
The call to the agent is the most hilarious thing in this podcast series yet! Brilliant! That movie must happen! Period. Also, this might sound like a paradox, but I actually am more inclined to check your sponsor out because of the sincere talk in this episode, rather than the "if you're on tour, it gets lonely, and you need someone to talk to" appeal. It's the same sincerity why we love Matt so much on moments where he screams "I'm not a charity case, guys!" 😂
There's always 2 sides to a story, but it sounds like some miscommunication from both sides and the 2 of you just didn't gel. It happens. But sounds like she overreacted a little bit, but also if she referenced going to her house, not sure why you put your address in, which wasn't a good move. Sometimes if we're not sure, we just need to be an adult and be straight up and honest and say you're not clear and ask them to be direct.
Okay, when Michelle Yeoh puts out a TH-cam video complaining about Jamie Oliver’s cooking, or when Nigel Ng’s agent gets him a guest role in Star Trek Discovery (or, more likely, Star Trek Lower Decks, since that’s just voice acting in a comedy and suits Nigel to a T), *then* the rest of us might have a basis for comparison.
I agree with you on the Star Trek angle. Lower Decks would be a great opportunity, and Trek has always done a good job positively portraying Asian characters (although #poorharry never got promoted).
When it comes to consent, verbal and non-verbal cues are not always black and white. You just have to be more aware and considerate to the other person. It has to be beyond the bare minimum.
Just finished listening to the rest of the podcast & about the date. Here's my two cents' worth. Sounds to me maybe just not compatible, she is abit too serious to date a jokester like you. Huge props to you for owning up to your insensitive joke, making up, giving the relationship another try, not be ruled by ego and not writing a girl off so quickly. It says alot about you and also how much you valued that girl, her lost for not knowing that. Oh well, just not meant to be. I pity you, Nigel. You are in a catch-22 situation, if you date someone who knows how famous you are, she might not be sincere, but at least she is well prepared and will not be shocked to hear outrageous insensitive things coming out of that no filter mouth of yours. But if you date someone who isn't a fan yet, then you cannot be yourself completely early on...I still think the latter type of girl is better. So my advice to you is this, reveal your true self slowly, once she sees how smart and interesting you are, she will be curious and start binge watching your videos and podcasts, and prob then she won't be shocked when you do make an insensitive joke. Also, Nigel, not all girls flirt that way, some girls mean what they say. I have been in a few instances myself where men took a No as a playing hard to get or as a pretense of some sort and continued pursuing to the point I felt really disrespected, like what I say don't matter, or like I don't know what I want. I think you have been with far too many superficial clout chasers since fame hit you, that you unknowingly began assuming all women are like that. You gotta decide what kinda woman you want Nigel. I think a direct straightforward honest woman is more suitable for you and also, it prob makes a healthier relationship. You are rich & famous now, you really don't want a shallow & insincere person, there is a risk she may end up selling your story to a tabloid or podcast. A serious & honest person is unlikely to do such things to you. Good luck Nigel on finding a partner to go through life with you, am sure you want to come home to someone to talk to at the end of a busy day, like Matt has with Gemma. You seem like a mature and understanding partner when you aren't going crazy sowing your wild oats, I hope there is a serious girl out there who can see that. But first, you gotta pace yourself with your jokes.
I know I'm a year late, but this is a really down to earth take on the whole thing. Nigel (at least from what we see here) seems like a good dude that, by his own admission, just says some crazy shit sometimes. The intent is there, it just gets lost in that no filter mouth and brain of his lmao. I'm the same way and it's def fucked me up a few times, but I took similar advice to this and have found better partners since, because of being aware of that need. I am also not rich and famous so there's that, but it's still something anyone should be aware of when dating in general.
I have had an experience where I could not say no to the guy out of fear that it would ruin the relationship, but I also did not give the go-ahead for sex. He took the silence as consent and boundaries were crossed. Now when the damage is done, all I can do is to be more upfront next time.
I mean it sounds like she overrated and should have been more straightforward about not wanting to go back to your place, but saying she wanted her own beauty products was a pretty clear sign. I think Nigel is a straight to the point kind of guy and if your not straight to the point yourself,that's where the confusion could have happened.
When a girl gives you such a bad excuse as she needs her own beauty products before bed it is a sign that she doesn’t want to come home with you sorry you had to go through this but I laughed a lot 😂😂
I read the opinion piece in the paper, it’s about how the writer is happy/proud to hear the Malaysian accent in cinema and viral videos online thanks to Michelle Yeoh and Uncle Roger. But the shade she threw is so stereotypical unimpressed aunty lol.
@Calvint7870, Are you sure Michelle Yeoh speaks English with a Malaysian accent on screen? If she does I doubt Hollywood would give her a job. I also wonder if Malaysians speak English like Uncle Roger. Malaysians generally are able to use the correct subject-verb agreement although they might not understand syntax or sentence structure. Uncle Roger's English is just communications English without any grammar. The Education Ministry of Malaysia tried to teach communications English in the 80's/90's. Language without grammar is like nasi lemak without sambal I guess Lolz. Grammar is the soul of any language.
When I first saw the Aunty column in the paper, I knew it was gonna be on this podcast and I wasn't disappointed LOL My theory is that she probably had column inches or space left, but yeah, shitting on Nigel was kinda uncalled for, especially in a national paper with a declining readership
Take a break Uncle Roger..we will never forget about it. Whenever I watch a cooking video and someone decides to use MSG I'll always remember Uncle Roger go fuiyohhh! MSG! King of flavor!
There is already a show called “Dating # No Filter” with comedians give out comments and jokes, while they watch single people go on dates. This show started in 2019. Haha…Uncle Roger/Nigel needs to be on this show!
Nigel's sarcasm around hope is really how these places run for those with mental health. I find it a bit hilarious that they didn't think people would already have figured this out and most people who do it have lost all hope due to their circumstances. Therapists treat it like a bird learning how to fly. "All you need is hope in your life and you're good for the rest of the time." Nigel/Uncle Roger has become my spirit animal xD
He thought she was playing hard to get. It’s a flirting tactic that hails from an era where it was considered uncouth for a lady to show too much interest in a man.
Here is a woman's perspective. That kind of shit would also piss me off, not the mother's day thing, but the second event. I would probably not tell what I want to do as a joke but say it in a serious tone though. Lots of women especially asian are afraid of rejecting man formally because that would potentially piss them off and in old days (and still some place today) men would beaten them up for that. Know that man and woman have a physical difference and know that women are for many many years being forced into sex. That mentality still rules. Imagine that you have been used for so many years and then would you not be super reacted to another potential use? So when man and woman are talking about sex, you should not read signs, there are NO signs that can represent a woman actually decides to sleep with you, you should directly ask and get a direct answer. To me, she already answered you clearly, you just don't want to believe what she says because you want to sleep with her. Sex for man is easy and fun but for woman is a serious thing to do, she has to take time and make a big decision before she knows if she wants to do it with you, even you two discussed plans for the future, it does not mean that she wants to sleep with you right now. I don't agree with Matt on this one, I think man just don't get how these things are for women. So be super cautious and conservative with the getting consent part, and make sure you GET it, don't ever ever jump the gun and assume that she wants to do it, if you have to assume, always assume that she does NOT wants to do it, that would get you covered most of the case. Matt says that you did not force her or anything, but the truth is, man don't even have to lay a finger on woman to force them into sex, sometimes they would just get it by the mere fact of they are physically stronger than woman, and the woman are so afraid to piss of the man.
I’m living for the Lonely Planet Reference. Also, I went to a holiday with my family and they SPECIFICALLY chose a hotel without Internet. It was nice then but it’d be a nightmare now.
“While Ng’s success is far below what Michelle Yeoh has achieved…“ Sheesh, at least say something like “While Ng has not _yet_ achieved the level of success that Michelle Yeoh has…” if you’ve got to make comparisons (and no one says you have to).
Try getting a male therapist, Nigel. You might get more out of the sessions. And yes, please DO put a treatment together for an Uncle Roger movie, we're DYING for one! That idea Evelyn Mok had where Uncle Roger is your twin & you both end up falling for the same girl would be mad funny.
As a woman, I'd just like to say that we treat every guy we go out with as a potential threat, no matter how nice they seem or how much we like them. A firm or direct "no" can have potentially serious consequences, as many men don't like to hear that.
I am interested in your story about your date. I feel that your thoughts on her are LEGIT. Maybe she has a psychological problem because she gave you mixed signals. I am hoping she's okay. And Nigel, keep searching :D
It’s Asian Heritage Month and let’s just say that Nephew Nigel and Michelle Yeoh are both Asian Excellence. Of course she is Top-Tier and why would you compare her to anyone because it’s not fair.
Ngl, think your date was right still. She may have been interested in visiting you/seeing you again and all, but dude she said she wanted her bed and her skin products. She may have been extra with flipping out, but maybe be a bit more of a gentleman and take what she explicitly says over what vibes you may be picking up lol therapist was a try-hard tho 😂
Hey guys! Loved this episode! I would highly recommend the Triggernometry channel! It has 2 hosts, who are also comedians, and they have episodes with guests discussing political / cultural topics as well as hilariously wild live streams from Thursday - Saturday at 7pm GMT! I think you guys would really enjoy it! Also I would love for Nigel to go on there as a guest! He'd kill it! As always, great work, love you guys and God bless! ❤️
Why doesn't it ever get mentioned about being culturally inappropriate when other comedians of colour do it? Ariana take down hilarious. Please do some gigs in the north of England. We love you 💜🤘
I have stopped reading June HL Wong's articles long time ago...her correlations were often, and seems to be still is, very lame. She is a dramatic flowery fictional writer, not a critical thinker. I have nothing against dramatizing, it is needed to make a story captivating. Nigel is emphatic in his podcast because he has an important point to make, on seeing things from a wider perspective. It doesn't feel like it is merely an act for entertainment purposes, whereas June HL's writing does. On therapy, it almost seems like the Haiya podcast is part therapy to Nigel where he gets to go on a verbal diarrhea on his deepest darkest thoughts. Lucky him, most people can only write such thoughts in their journal, nobody really wants to have such conversations, let alone give much thought to such things. Unless you pay them, like Matt or a therapist. Matt is like a therapist and a punching bag at the same time (I know it is for entertainment value & don't actually think Nigel is bullying Matt). Kudos to Matt, it takes a really open minded & kind person to see Nigel's POV. Am a fan of the podcast btw, always excited to hear what you've gotta say.
You crazy. When someone declines twice with the exact same poorly made up excuse and you don't get it you need to widen your horizon. like vertically if you know what i mean🔥🔥🔥
Oh Nigel, I think you have a lot to learn about women. You need to see things from a womans perspective. She told you straight out 'no' to going back to your hotel but you didn't listen to her words. You only saw or heard what you wanted hear. Those cues you saw including the kissing & flirting showed that she liked you but it doesn't mean she wanted to sleep with you that night. She's after something meaningful & wanted to be taken seriously. She's probably experienced many dates where the guy hasn't listened to her & has pressured/expected her to sleep with them within the first few dates. She probably sick of it. Not all girls want to sleep with every guy they go on a date with especially just after a couple of dates. At least she's real and isn't a 'yes' girl just because you're Nigel Ng the comedian. She probably genuinely wanted to get to know you as a person & expected you to do the same with her...now she just thinks you just wanted to sleep with her.
Rather than one or the other being crazy, from your perspective I’d say that the prognosis for this relationship isn’t favorable and it’s probably smarter to spend your time and attention on someone else.
I don't think Nigel was at fault, but I think it was also pretty understandable why his date reacted the way she did. Calling her 'crazy' seems a bit too harsh, at least based on the story as presented. For Nigel to say "Well **I** have a very good relationship with my mom", even jokingly, sounds like rubbing salt in what might be a painful wound for her. To her ears it could sound like "Well unlike you, I'm filial / a good child, and also I have this happy relationship which you don't get to enjoy, haha." If I was on a date with Nigel, I'd probably let it fly, as I know from watching the podcast that he's a naturally offensive person who doesn't always mean what he says. But if it was anyone else, I might react differently (assuming I had a bad relationship with my mom). I'm personally quite surprised at how Nigel could interpret multiple 'no's as "flirting", even taking into consideration the making out and sex talk which happened prior. Like legitimately, how do you hear "No, I prefer using my own make up products" twice and interpret that as "I want to sleep at yours tonight"? Anyway, I'll give Nigel the benefit of the doubt as I've often been WAYY off at reading others' intentions myself. I can definitely see his date's perspective. If I told a date multiple times that I wanted to go back to my place, only to have them flagrantly ignore my requests and call a cab for their place, I definitely wouldn't be too happy. It would feel like they were trying to push me into having sex with them. The optics also look pretty bad for Nigel as he's a guy and his date was a girl (I know abuse and coercion can happen both ways- Amber Heard being a case in point, but still). She also might've had bad experiences with pushy guys in the past. The fact that Nigel offended her earlier on probably didn't help matters, so tbh I'm not surprised she reacted the way she did (though I doubt I'd blow up like she did). Anyway, good episode, loved seeing Matt back. Hope Nigel doesn't let his date experience eat away at him, but also hope he learns from it. Side note: you've given out quite a bit of identifying info about the Betterhelp psychologist- maybe consider editing out her name if you're going to talk negatively about her in public?
Nope she not crazy 😅........ And also why the show is called she crazy or you crazy.... I had seen some crazy ass manipulative men 🙂 I think she was just Angry because not everyone can take jokes about topics which they are sensitive about and also you were already on chance no.2 so yeah ofc she was taken aback and also observed how the reason was the same 🤷♂️😿 Misunderstanding it's ok Anyway ly💕✨
From the way he told her rection to him asking whether she'd like to go to his place, I thought... she didn't really want to go. So I guess Nigel did misread the situation. Perhaps she overreacted when she get out of the uber though.
Nigel lepas ni boleh jemput Ryan Higa pulak untuk buat podcast sama-sama. Tapi dia di Vegas la. Mungkin boleh sembang dengan dia sebab dia antara OG TH-camr dan sekarang dia dah tak aktif sangat, mungkin boleh kongsi sikit pengalaman dia buat konten TH-cam. Ups and downs. Sekadar cadangan. Rooting for you lengchai!
I agree with you. I am a French middle aged woman and I had to confront harassment before. If you are with a nice guy (no one to be afraid pr unsure of), just say things clearly, and if they are verbal misunderstandings, apologies exists and if we always stay polite both ways, then no one gets hurt. I personally love your strong and dark sense of humor a lot and had partners like that who I loved dearly, but if you had to apologize 3 times in 3 dates, that was definitely a wrong match ! Maybe she felt it before you did and just didn't deal well with it because she feared your sharp tongue...
Actually, putting Nigel and Michelle in the same article says something. Though the views on TH-cam should already say something. Good job really to Nigel and the team
PLEASE make your movie idea a thing. I'm a Screenwriter and I genuinely believe that it could be a wonderful thing. Anyone with half a brain would snap that up and fund you! I hope you go ahead with the treatment and if you do - I'll have everything crossed for you! Haiyaa The Movie - In cinemas 2024 🙌🙌
You Crazy - if she wanted to go with you she would have said yeah lets see what you got. (so your line was fine - you were just not programmed to understand the negative result - now you can use it with confidence) also you need to find a real life uncle Roger to be your therapist.
Man are you right about smug cliche therapy!!!! Man man man 99% of these people are like that. To find a therapist who is actually helpful and worth the time and money is very very rare. Very hard to locate. They all fail because of the "smug" ticket.
I still don't understand how people can think Uncle Roger is an offensive Asian stereotype when we white people are clearly the butt of the jokes. Which is hilarious.
It is because people feel like he is purposely doing that asian accent for his uncle roger character to gain viewers. I am asian myself and i feel that is a sellout. Just like back then willian hong auditioning for american idol. Alot of asian especially chinese feel so embarassed by him, but other race likes him. The difference is than willian hong isnt faking things to be famous, but this guy is. I watched first few uncle roger skit that was funny, after that it is not that funny anymore. Even uncle roger standup isnt that good. Jimmy o yang stand up is more solid than his. Well, thats just my opinion. Well, to each their own
who else heard 0:00 "While UNSUCCESS is far below what Michelle Yo has achieved" immediately grabbed my attention, who is calling Nigel "unsuccess"? because we Asians don't use "unsuccess", we use "FAILURE". use the right word, not the white word ~Haiyaa~~
Nigel is a bit to the extreme and should be more sensitive to the people around him in real life. See how many women friends he has 'tortured' and many friendships broken. Yes, learn from Evelyn Mok and be a better person lah.... Still rooting for you, Nigel ... since you are quite funny and talented....
Hey Nigel, I believe you mean well and it was a genuine misunderstanding. As a general rule, I think all men should realised that normally, no means no. And try not to imagine it was flirting or read into many things. It is hard for women on our side sometimes that some men cannot be let down gently, and needed to be firm but still have to make sure not to hurt their feelings. Maybe she's not ready, maybe she's wary of new people, but whatever it is, just accept it and move on if you think she is not worth pursuing, or go on a few more dates. Yes she had more intense reactions than most people, but that's probably a sign that you guys are not compatible, and a good thing that you avoided a possible 'combustion' in future? (Sorry I can't find the right word 😅)
From what I’ve heard and this is an opinion and not a conclusion that it was miscommunication which if not resolved could present problems. One cannot afford to be complacent.
Listen... some people need poetry. It's the core of what people THINK therapy is. And sometimes the illusion of what something is is what is actually IS for some people. Sad, really...
Michelle Yeoh is old enough to be Nigel’s mother. So really, she has had a long time to become legendary, and Nigel’s only mistake is to be relatively new.
To be fair, your date’s reaction in the Uber can be justified by previous bad experiences. She told you she wanted to go back to her place in several ways, take it for what it is and don’t assume that she wants something else. She overall sounds like someone who had some trauma (from that and her reaction to the Mother’s Day joke you made) and has clearly not dealt with it yet. Let’s stop calling people with psychological issues “crazy” please :)
Nah. She actually CRAZY. Why can’t she just learn to sorpress traumas like the rest of us and not scare the shit outta innocent people. In all seriousness, threatening someone with Violence for not understanding their queues is never acceptable. NEVER
@@MO-rl9gl “why cant she just learn to suppress trauma like the rest of us”, because people react and deal with trauma differently. And her “queues” (you probably meant “cues”) were clear, it’s not her fault nor responsibility if they were interpreted by the receiver of said cues when there was no room for interpretation (a clear refusal). I do not condone her reaction, it was indeed violent and over the top, but I just try to understand WHY she did it. You know, compassion. Edit: just wanted to add that many women out there have dealt to some extent with some sort of SA and non respect of their boundaries. At some point we might “overreact “ because we don’t feel safe and feel the need to assert ourselves aggressively to make a point. Unfortunately, there are still some men out there who just can’t seem to understand this.
@@eml2229 I was clearly joking with the first part. I understand that perspective. But expecting people to understand vague cues is not right. At one point u have just got to say it as it is to avoid confusion. That you seriously need to go home. Communication is important
@@MO-rl9gl I think you expecting Em to get the sarcasm in the first part of your first comment is a serendipitous example of how we shouldn't be "expecting people to understand vague cues", LOL. You say you were "clearly" joking but I thought it was more subtle than that- I personally didn't detect it until I saw your second comment and reread your first comment. Just goes to show how easily people misunderstand each other and how communication is important 🤷
Michelle Yeoh is an actress, nigel is a comedian/youtuber. I dont know why they feel the need to compare two different people. Its like people comparing me to shah rukh khan just because we both are indian.
Nigel, I think Malaysia should be proud as you still establish yourself a Malaysian. You already have my respect and you're in the current bloom to being successful and I thank you for all the videos you make.
Nobody read The Star anymore, that's why they need a little controversy.
Hey at least they are putting you in same league with Michelle! That’s not a bad thing man
It's feel like typical Asian parent, just put your with Jack Ma and said you're failure.
Michelle Yeoh, Jimmy Choo, Nigel Ng… they all are proud Malaysians (with ethnic Han Chinese background) who made their name famous in the western world and all around the world! Congratulations! 🥳🎊🎉👏👍🇲🇾🇬🇧🇺🇸🇫🇷🇨🇦🇨🇳🇸🇬🇹🇼🇮🇳🇦🇺🇭🇰🇳🇿🇮🇩🥰🌎🌍🌏🥰
The call to the agent is the most hilarious thing in this podcast series yet! Brilliant! That movie must happen! Period.
Also, this might sound like a paradox, but I actually am more inclined to check your sponsor out because of the sincere talk in this episode, rather than the "if you're on tour, it gets lonely, and you need someone to talk to" appeal. It's the same sincerity why we love Matt so much on moments where he screams "I'm not a charity case, guys!" 😂
There's always 2 sides to a story, but it sounds like some miscommunication from both sides and the 2 of you just didn't gel. It happens.
But sounds like she overreacted a little bit, but also if she referenced going to her house, not sure why you put your address in, which wasn't a good move.
Sometimes if we're not sure, we just need to be an adult and be straight up and honest and say you're not clear and ask them to be direct.
Okay, when Michelle Yeoh puts out a TH-cam video complaining about Jamie Oliver’s cooking, or when Nigel Ng’s agent gets him a guest role in Star Trek Discovery (or, more likely, Star Trek Lower Decks, since that’s just voice acting in a comedy and suits Nigel to a T), *then* the rest of us might have a basis for comparison.
I agree with you on the Star Trek angle. Lower Decks would be a great opportunity, and Trek has always done a good job positively portraying Asian characters (although #poorharry never got promoted).
Nigel’s idea of a Kickstarter Crowdfunding Project is shipping Producer Matt to LA and I’m here for it. 😂
Normalise appreciating Nephew Nigel talking about his house. I think it’s rather cute.
Some people say the wierdiest things
@@sangaywangdi2789 Yeah that’s like my brand lol
When it comes to consent, verbal and non-verbal cues are not always black and white. You just have to be more aware and considerate to the other person. It has to be beyond the bare minimum.
It’s nice to have Matt again even in a square window. Nigel is at his best bullying Matt.
Just finished listening to the rest of the podcast & about the date. Here's my two cents' worth. Sounds to me maybe just not compatible, she is abit too serious to date a jokester like you. Huge props to you for owning up to your insensitive joke, making up, giving the relationship another try, not be ruled by ego and not writing a girl off so quickly. It says alot about you and also how much you valued that girl, her lost for not knowing that. Oh well, just not meant to be.
I pity you, Nigel. You are in a catch-22 situation, if you date someone who knows how famous you are, she might not be sincere, but at least she is well prepared and will not be shocked to hear outrageous insensitive things coming out of that no filter mouth of yours. But if you date someone who isn't a fan yet, then you cannot be yourself completely early on...I still think the latter type of girl is better. So my advice to you is this, reveal your true self slowly, once she sees how smart and interesting you are, she will be curious and start binge watching your videos and podcasts, and prob then she won't be shocked when you do make an insensitive joke.
Also, Nigel, not all girls flirt that way, some girls mean what they say. I have been in a few instances myself where men took a No as a playing hard to get or as a pretense of some sort and continued pursuing to the point I felt really disrespected, like what I say don't matter, or like I don't know what I want. I think you have been with far too many superficial clout chasers since fame hit you, that you unknowingly began assuming all women are like that.
You gotta decide what kinda woman you want Nigel. I think a direct straightforward honest woman is more suitable for you and also, it prob makes a healthier relationship. You are rich & famous now, you really don't want a shallow & insincere person, there is a risk she may end up selling your story to a tabloid or podcast. A serious & honest person is unlikely to do such things to you.
Good luck Nigel on finding a partner to go through life with you, am sure you want to come home to someone to talk to at the end of a busy day, like Matt has with Gemma. You seem like a mature and understanding partner when you aren't going crazy sowing your wild oats, I hope there is a serious girl out there who can see that.
But first, you gotta pace yourself with your jokes.
Best advice here for Nigel. Hope he sees this 🙏
I know I'm a year late, but this is a really down to earth take on the whole thing. Nigel (at least from what we see here) seems like a good dude that, by his own admission, just says some crazy shit sometimes. The intent is there, it just gets lost in that no filter mouth and brain of his lmao. I'm the same way and it's def fucked me up a few times, but I took similar advice to this and have found better partners since, because of being aware of that need. I am also not rich and famous so there's that, but it's still something anyone should be aware of when dating in general.
I have had an experience where I could not say no to the guy out of fear that it would ruin the relationship, but I also did not give the go-ahead for sex. He took the silence as consent and boundaries were crossed. Now when the damage is done, all I can do is to be more upfront next time.
That's exactly the reason why some of us say soft no.
That is not correct. You _would_ not say no for fear of ruining the relationship. The only way you _couldn’t_ say no is if you were mute.
I mean it sounds like she overrated and should have been more straightforward about not wanting to go back to your place, but saying she wanted her own beauty products was a pretty clear sign.
I think Nigel is a straight to the point kind of guy and if your not straight to the point yourself,that's where the confusion could have happened.
When a girl gives you such a bad excuse as she needs her own beauty products before bed it is a sign that she doesn’t want to come home with you sorry you had to go through this but I laughed a lot 😂😂
That may be so, but her reaction was too much for the situation. He wasn’t forcing her. It was miscommunication.
The girl gave a soft no because we are never sure how men will react.
@@purpessenceentertainment9759 didn't she make plans to meet in a different city requiring a flight to get to.
@@jamessavent3636 I’m not sure, I don’t recall that.
@@purpessenceentertainment9759 he mentions her not seeing his show and making a plan for her to fly to San Francisco to see his show
I read the opinion piece in the paper, it’s about how the writer is happy/proud to hear the Malaysian accent in cinema and viral videos online thanks to Michelle Yeoh and Uncle Roger. But the shade she threw is so stereotypical unimpressed aunty lol.
@Calvint7870, Are you sure Michelle Yeoh speaks English with a Malaysian accent on screen? If she does I doubt Hollywood would give her a job.
I also wonder if Malaysians speak English like Uncle Roger. Malaysians generally are able to use the correct subject-verb agreement although they might not understand syntax or sentence structure.
Uncle Roger's English is just communications English without any grammar.
The Education Ministry of Malaysia tried to teach communications English in the 80's/90's. Language without grammar is like nasi lemak without sambal I guess Lolz. Grammar is the soul of any language.
Haiyaaa..... Uncle Roger you have way more followers than The Star... you are bigger than the entire company..... 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Someday you will be aa powerful as Michelle Yeoh.
Not if u build your career with only dirty jokes
When I first saw the Aunty column in the paper, I knew it was gonna be on this podcast and I wasn't disappointed LOL My theory is that she probably had column inches or space left, but yeah, shitting on Nigel was kinda uncalled for, especially in a national paper with a declining readership
Take a break Uncle Roger..we will never forget about it. Whenever I watch a cooking video and someone decides to use MSG I'll always remember Uncle Roger go fuiyohhh! MSG! King of flavor!
There is already a show called “Dating # No Filter” with comedians give out comments and jokes, while they watch single people go on dates. This show started in 2019. Haha…Uncle Roger/Nigel needs to be on this show!
Pro-Tip: Therapists are always learning on the job. It’s just very awkward sometimes. It’s ok.
Nigel's sarcasm around hope is really how these places run for those with mental health. I find it a bit hilarious that they didn't think people would already have figured this out and most people who do it have lost all hope due to their circumstances. Therapists treat it like a bird learning how to fly. "All you need is hope in your life and you're good for the rest of the time." Nigel/Uncle Roger has become my spirit animal xD
Quote of the Day: “I can’t s**t talk my sponsors too much.”
She said no multiple times??? And you ordered an Uber to your hotel room???
Exactly, that's bad.
He thought she was playing hard to get. It’s a flirting tactic that hails from an era where it was considered uncouth for a lady to show too much interest in a man.
Nigel, she was pretty clear she wanted to go home 😂😂 Matt is right ... If she can't handle your jokes you need to ditch her.
Can you bring back Evelyn Mok for one episode?
sounds like she did say no multiple times and you insisted on going back to your hotel, and that's listening to your version of the story
YES
Wasn't Better Help just a scam where they hired unlicensed therapists?
And then proceeded to sponsor every. fucking. comedy podcast out there that is relevant
" I think I'll get dementia one day and just completely morph into Uncle Roger. " 👍💯💖😆
Here is a woman's perspective. That kind of shit would also piss me off, not the mother's day thing, but the second event. I would probably not tell what I want to do as a joke but say it in a serious tone though. Lots of women especially asian are afraid of rejecting man formally because that would potentially piss them off and in old days (and still some place today) men would beaten them up for that. Know that man and woman have a physical difference and know that women are for many many years being forced into sex. That mentality still rules. Imagine that you have been used for so many years and then would you not be super reacted to another potential use? So when man and woman are talking about sex, you should not read signs, there are NO signs that can represent a woman actually decides to sleep with you, you should directly ask and get a direct answer. To me, she already answered you clearly, you just don't want to believe what she says because you want to sleep with her. Sex for man is easy and fun but for woman is a serious thing to do, she has to take time and make a big decision before she knows if she wants to do it with you, even you two discussed plans for the future, it does not mean that she wants to sleep with you right now. I don't agree with Matt on this one, I think man just don't get how these things are for women. So be super cautious and conservative with the getting consent part, and make sure you GET it, don't ever ever jump the gun and assume that she wants to do it, if you have to assume, always assume that she does NOT wants to do it, that would get you covered most of the case. Matt says that you did not force her or anything, but the truth is, man don't even have to lay a finger on woman to force them into sex, sometimes they would just get it by the mere fact of they are physically stronger than woman, and the woman are so afraid to piss of the man.
matt is back, with slightly better video quality hahah
I’m living for the Lonely Planet Reference. Also, I went to a holiday with my family and they SPECIFICALLY chose a hotel without Internet. It was nice then but it’d be a nightmare now.
“While Ng’s success is far below what Michelle Yeoh has achieved…“ Sheesh, at least say something like “While Ng has not _yet_ achieved the level of success that Michelle Yeoh has…” if you’ve got to make comparisons (and no one says you have to).
Try getting a male therapist, Nigel. You might get more out of the sessions. And yes, please DO put a treatment together for an Uncle Roger movie, we're DYING for one! That idea Evelyn Mok had where Uncle Roger is your twin & you both end up falling for the same girl would be mad funny.
As a woman, I'd just like to say that we treat every guy we go out with as a potential threat, no matter how nice they seem or how much we like them. A firm or direct "no" can have potentially serious consequences, as many men don't like to hear that.
I am interested in your story about your date. I feel that your thoughts on her are LEGIT. Maybe she has a psychological problem because she gave you mixed signals. I am hoping she's okay. And Nigel, keep searching :D
It’s Asian Heritage Month and let’s just say that Nephew Nigel and Michelle Yeoh are both Asian Excellence. Of course she is Top-Tier and why would you compare her to anyone because it’s not fair.
Ngl, think your date was right still. She may have been interested in visiting you/seeing you again and all, but dude she said she wanted her bed and her skin products. She may have been extra with flipping out, but maybe be a bit more of a gentleman and take what she explicitly says over what vibes you may be picking up lol
therapist was a try-hard tho 😂
Hey guys! Loved this episode! I would highly recommend the Triggernometry channel! It has 2 hosts, who are also comedians, and they have episodes with guests discussing political / cultural topics as well as hilariously wild live streams from Thursday - Saturday at 7pm GMT! I think you guys would really enjoy it! Also I would love for Nigel to go on there as a guest! He'd kill it! As always, great work, love you guys and God bless! ❤️
Why doesn't it ever get mentioned about being culturally inappropriate when other comedians of colour do it? Ariana take down hilarious. Please do some gigs in the north of England. We love you 💜🤘
I have stopped reading June HL Wong's articles long time ago...her correlations were often, and seems to be still is, very lame. She is a dramatic flowery fictional writer, not a critical thinker. I have nothing against dramatizing, it is needed to make a story captivating. Nigel is emphatic in his podcast because he has an important point to make, on seeing things from a wider perspective. It doesn't feel like it is merely an act for entertainment purposes, whereas June HL's writing does.
On therapy, it almost seems like the Haiya podcast is part therapy to Nigel where he gets to go on a verbal diarrhea on his deepest darkest thoughts. Lucky him, most people can only write such thoughts in their journal, nobody really wants to have such conversations, let alone give much thought to such things. Unless you pay them, like Matt or a therapist. Matt is like a therapist and a punching bag at the same time (I know it is for entertainment value & don't actually think Nigel is bullying Matt). Kudos to Matt, it takes a really open minded & kind person to see Nigel's POV.
Am a fan of the podcast btw, always excited to hear what you've gotta say.
PRODUCER MATT IS BACK YASSSSSSSSS 👏🏽
I never really think about the political aspect of your work. I just find it funny.
Also, keep up the great work! 😊
You crazy. When someone declines twice with the exact same poorly made up excuse and you don't get it you need to widen your horizon. like vertically if you know what i mean🔥🔥🔥
Nice subtle racism their.🔥🔥🔥
every week listening to nigel talking about things going on and his ideas is so nice.
but where is the intro music this week i really enjoyed that.😘
hhaa I love the intro music too.
Oh Nigel, I think you have a lot to learn about women. You need to see things from a womans perspective. She told you straight out 'no' to going back to your hotel but you didn't listen to her words. You only saw or heard what you wanted hear. Those cues you saw including the kissing & flirting showed that she liked you but it doesn't mean she wanted to sleep with you that night. She's after something meaningful & wanted to be taken seriously. She's probably experienced many dates where the guy hasn't listened to her & has pressured/expected her to sleep with them within the first few dates. She probably sick of it. Not all girls want to sleep with every guy they go on a date with especially just after a couple of dates. At least she's real and isn't a 'yes' girl just because you're Nigel Ng the comedian. She probably genuinely wanted to get to know you as a person & expected you to do the same with her...now she just thinks you just wanted to sleep with her.
I agree
Yes!
Rather than one or the other being crazy, from your perspective I’d say that the prognosis for this relationship isn’t favorable and it’s probably smarter to spend your time and attention on someone else.
My favourite part of this Podcast are the thumbnails.
Right after this pod ended, TH-cam autoplay directed me to HAIYAA pod episode 11 where the first few seconds is Uncle Roger going "HIDE YOUR CRAZY"
I don't think Nigel was at fault, but I think it was also pretty understandable why his date reacted the way she did. Calling her 'crazy' seems a bit too harsh, at least based on the story as presented.
For Nigel to say "Well **I** have a very good relationship with my mom", even jokingly, sounds like rubbing salt in what might be a painful wound for her. To her ears it could sound like "Well unlike you, I'm filial / a good child, and also I have this happy relationship which you don't get to enjoy, haha." If I was on a date with Nigel, I'd probably let it fly, as I know from watching the podcast that he's a naturally offensive person who doesn't always mean what he says. But if it was anyone else, I might react differently (assuming I had a bad relationship with my mom).
I'm personally quite surprised at how Nigel could interpret multiple 'no's as "flirting", even taking into consideration the making out and sex talk which happened prior. Like legitimately, how do you hear "No, I prefer using my own make up products" twice and interpret that as "I want to sleep at yours tonight"? Anyway, I'll give Nigel the benefit of the doubt as I've often been WAYY off at reading others' intentions myself.
I can definitely see his date's perspective. If I told a date multiple times that I wanted to go back to my place, only to have them flagrantly ignore my requests and call a cab for their place, I definitely wouldn't be too happy. It would feel like they were trying to push me into having sex with them. The optics also look pretty bad for Nigel as he's a guy and his date was a girl (I know abuse and coercion can happen both ways- Amber Heard being a case in point, but still). She also might've had bad experiences with pushy guys in the past. The fact that Nigel offended her earlier on probably didn't help matters, so tbh I'm not surprised she reacted the way she did (though I doubt I'd blow up like she did).
Anyway, good episode, loved seeing Matt back. Hope Nigel doesn't let his date experience eat away at him, but also hope he learns from it.
Side note: you've given out quite a bit of identifying info about the Betterhelp psychologist- maybe consider editing out her name if you're going to talk negatively about her in public?
I’ve been told that women often play hard-to-get, so from the tone of the conversation he could have thought she was doing so.
Nope she not crazy 😅........ And also why the show is called she crazy or you crazy.... I had seen some crazy ass manipulative men 🙂
I think she was just Angry because not everyone can take jokes about topics which they are sensitive about and also you were already on chance no.2 so yeah ofc she was taken aback and also observed how the reason was the same 🤷♂️😿
Misunderstanding it's ok
Anyway ly💕✨
From the way he told her rection to him asking whether she'd like to go to his place, I thought... she didn't really want to go. So I guess Nigel did misread the situation. Perhaps she overreacted when she get out of the uber though.
Would pay big $$$ to see Bo Burnham and Nigel argue about Asian identity Thunderdome style
Nigel lepas ni boleh jemput Ryan Higa pulak untuk buat podcast sama-sama. Tapi dia di Vegas la. Mungkin boleh sembang dengan dia sebab dia antara OG TH-camr dan sekarang dia dah tak aktif sangat, mungkin boleh kongsi sikit pengalaman dia buat konten TH-cam. Ups and downs. Sekadar cadangan. Rooting for you lengchai!
Laughed so hard at this episode! Dynamic between Nigel and Matt is always amazing x
I think she just doesn't know how to say no. Hence all the lame excuses. Then later she gets "pushed" beyond her tolerance and then she freaks out
Do you have any plans of adding a show in Germany? I was considering going to the one in Paris, but it's sold out already :(
I just decided to come to Malaysia to study because of Uncle Roger :D
I agree with you. I am a French middle aged woman and I had to confront harassment before. If you are with a nice guy (no one to be afraid pr unsure of), just say things clearly, and if they are verbal misunderstandings, apologies exists and if we always stay polite both ways, then no one gets hurt. I personally love your strong and dark sense of humor a lot and had partners like that who I loved dearly, but if you had to apologize 3 times in 3 dates, that was definitely a wrong match ! Maybe she felt it before you did and just didn't deal well with it because she feared your sharp tongue...
Make that movie, that could be amazing. Haiyaa
If you aren't sure if she wants to come back to your place, text Matt her number and make him ask. Would be funny to know how that goes.
Actually, putting Nigel and Michelle in the same article says something. Though the views on TH-cam should already say something. Good job really to Nigel and the team
Welcome to yet another episode where Nigel tries his hardest to get Matt cancelled. LOL XD
Crazy lads. Love you
Counselors get real cringy sometimes 😆
PLEASE make your movie idea a thing. I'm a Screenwriter and I genuinely believe that it could be a wonderful thing. Anyone with half a brain would snap that up and fund you! I hope you go ahead with the treatment and if you do - I'll have everything crossed for you! Haiyaa The Movie - In cinemas 2024 🙌🙌
Nigel you are da bomb, anyone who says otherwise is WRONG!!!!!
You Crazy - if she wanted to go with you she would have said yeah lets see what you got. (so your line was fine - you were just not programmed to understand the negative result - now you can use it with confidence) also you need to find a real life uncle Roger to be your therapist.
Man I really wanna see that amnesia Uncle Roger movie…
Nigel needs to be careful while in America, people have been cancelled for being accused of doing less.
18:14 I think he Needs Steven's dad to give him therapy
20:00 that's the reason I don't read and listen to local media. And to that person who wrote the article, boooo shame on you.
Man are you right about smug cliche therapy!!!! Man man man 99% of these people are like that. To find a therapist who is actually helpful and worth the time and money is very very rare. Very hard to locate. They all fail because of the "smug" ticket.
What?!! Of course Malaysian people love you Nigel .. haiyaaa. And fuyooo is you able to podcast with Michelle yeoh
The movie would be one of the best things you could possibly do to increase your fanbase! Happy Madison would be the absolute best vehicle for it!
Have her on the podcast to tell her side of the story :P
Wow even that’s too risky for Nigel.
If she actually used the word violent that was uncalled for and dangeous. That being said you compleltely miss read the room
It's a bit extreme podcast. But I still do love it! 🌶️🌶️🌶️🌶️🌶️
I'd date you Nigel ❤ I love your videos and you always make me laugh..
Nigel Ng is a COMEDIAN. And Michelle Yeoh is an ACTOR.
I still don't understand how people can think Uncle Roger is an offensive Asian stereotype when we white people are clearly the butt of the jokes. Which is hilarious.
It is because people feel like he is purposely doing that asian accent for his uncle roger character to gain viewers. I am asian myself and i feel that is a sellout. Just like back then willian hong auditioning for american idol. Alot of asian especially chinese feel so embarassed by him, but other race likes him. The difference is than willian hong isnt faking things to be famous, but this guy is. I watched first few uncle roger skit that was funny, after that it is not that funny anymore. Even uncle roger standup isnt that good. Jimmy o yang stand up is more solid than his. Well, thats just my opinion. Well, to each their own
love you Nigel 💟
who else heard 0:00 "While UNSUCCESS is far below what Michelle Yo has achieved" immediately grabbed my attention, who is calling Nigel "unsuccess"? because we Asians don't use "unsuccess", we use "FAILURE". use the right word, not the white word ~Haiyaa~~
Ng’s success, not unsuccess.
You don’t know meh Malaysian pattern are like this. We love to say shit sometimes without understanding it
Welcome to Bangkok, Matt
Nigel is a bit to the extreme and should be more sensitive to the people around him in real life. See how many women friends he has 'tortured' and many friendships broken. Yes, learn from Evelyn Mok and be a better person lah.... Still rooting for you, Nigel ... since you are quite funny and talented....
I would pay millions to see your movie Nigel
love from Maui bruda 🤙🏼
Evelyn needs to be in the movie
Hey Nigel, I believe you mean well and it was a genuine misunderstanding.
As a general rule, I think all men should realised that normally, no means no. And try not to imagine it was flirting or read into many things. It is hard for women on our side sometimes that some men cannot be let down gently, and needed to be firm but still have to make sure not to hurt their feelings.
Maybe she's not ready, maybe she's wary of new people, but whatever it is, just accept it and move on if you think she is not worth pursuing, or go on a few more dates.
Yes she had more intense reactions than most people, but that's probably a sign that you guys are not compatible, and a good thing that you avoided a possible 'combustion' in future? (Sorry I can't find the right word 😅)
Nah, she crazy. Everyone makes mistakes, if those are the standards she's aiming for she's not gonna find anyone.
She won't find anyone who actually accepts when she says several no???? So all of you boys are just fucking rapists then???
From what I’ve heard and this is an opinion and not a conclusion that it was miscommunication which if not resolved could present problems. One cannot afford to be complacent.
Go to sukhumvit and Phrom phong and Siam. They are really nice places
omg @Nigel im also coming to melbourne on the tenth imm from singapore. But there were no tix available
i really want to see you
She had some bad experience and it trigger her, move on, Nigel
Hi nice podcast todya
Listen... some people need poetry. It's the core of what people THINK therapy is. And sometimes the illusion of what something is is what is actually IS for some people. Sad, really...
Michelle Yeoh is old enough to be Nigel’s mother. So really, she has had a long time to become legendary, and Nigel’s only mistake is to be relatively new.
It is the stupidest line ...I'm a therapist and it gagged me, too.
To be fair, your date’s reaction in the Uber can be justified by previous bad experiences. She told you she wanted to go back to her place in several ways, take it for what it is and don’t assume that she wants something else. She overall sounds like someone who had some trauma (from that and her reaction to the Mother’s Day joke you made) and has clearly not dealt with it yet. Let’s stop calling people with psychological issues “crazy” please :)
Exactly
Nah. She actually CRAZY. Why can’t she just learn to sorpress traumas like the rest of us and not scare the shit outta innocent people. In all seriousness, threatening someone with Violence for not understanding their queues is never acceptable. NEVER
@@MO-rl9gl “why cant she just learn to suppress trauma like the rest of us”, because people react and deal with trauma differently. And her “queues” (you probably meant “cues”) were clear, it’s not her fault nor responsibility if they were interpreted by the receiver of said cues when there was no room for interpretation (a clear refusal). I do not condone her reaction, it was indeed violent and over the top, but I just try to understand WHY she did it. You know, compassion.
Edit: just wanted to add that many women out there have dealt to some extent with some sort of SA and non respect of their boundaries. At some point we might “overreact “ because we don’t feel safe and feel the need to assert ourselves aggressively to make a point. Unfortunately, there are still some men out there who just can’t seem to understand this.
@@eml2229 I was clearly joking with the first part. I understand that perspective. But expecting people to understand vague cues is not right. At one point u have just got to say it as it is to avoid confusion. That you seriously need to go home. Communication is important
@@MO-rl9gl I think you expecting Em to get the sarcasm in the first part of your first comment is a serendipitous example of how we shouldn't be "expecting people to understand vague cues", LOL. You say you were "clearly" joking but I thought it was more subtle than that- I personally didn't detect it until I saw your second comment and reread your first comment. Just goes to show how easily people misunderstand each other and how communication is important 🤷
invite michelle yeoh to the podcast XD
Michelle Yeoh is an actress, nigel is a comedian/youtuber. I dont know why they feel the need to compare two different people. Its like people comparing me to shah rukh khan just because we both are indian.
She crazy? You're the one in therapy Nigel 😅