@Mammotion, now THIS is the video that convinced me that omni wheels are OK. Crazy did an excellent job of demonstrating this! Thank you very much Crazy for all your hard work on a hot/humid day! Well done Sir! And thanks Mammotion for sending a 3000 to crazy!
Unfortunately for me, I specifically ordered the OG version on Amazon. I waited for Prime Day and got a $200 discount. Mine still hasn't shipped though, so I wonder if they could switch my order to Omni. My yard has 50% of it as steep hills like shown in this video.
I have a hill on my property. It slips a bit if it needs to turn on the hill, but it has been doing great going in straight lines on the hill. Up, sideways, and diagonal.
Yeah turning at an angle seems to be the only time it has trouble It seems to be able to maintain a straight line even on a hill. This could be fixed in software, when turning on a hill it just needs to reverse further up the hill before it finishes the turn
I’d say it should keep track of its tilt angle and adjust the mowing plan with regard to that. Lots of steep incline, mow it up and down the hill rather than across it.
All this could be fixed in software It's just going to require some finessing. Even if it just reversed up the hill A little higher before trying to make the turn so it's turning while it's going down instead of trying to turn uphill. Because it was the turning that was the problem It was able to go straight even on the extreme angle.
I just learned something I did not know about the luba's. You mention around 21:20 that you can have multiple Luba's on a single RTK unit but you cannot have multiple RTK units on a single luba which is really to bad as having more than one RTK might allow you to cover a dead spot or heavy tree cover area that you otherwise might need to create and "do not go" area.
If you have one RTK with a completely clear view of the sky there's no need for two. The second RTK unit wouldn't receive any additional satellites that the first one is not receiving. So it wouldn't contribute any better. The only way more than one would help would be if your property was so large that Luba goes out of radio range of the RTK but this would be hard to accomplish I personally tested the RTK's radio range to 700 m and I've had comments that said they've tested it out to 1 km. But Luba is not programmed to receive two reference stations at once.
@@Crazypostmanyou are now in a great place to test what happens if Luba picks up two RTKs (like a neighbor getting a Luba too). Curious if there are possible interference problems.
@@justinblanding5897 there's no interference, each RTK has their own address. I have several other LoRa projects all on 915 megahertz they don't interfere either
Got my Luba AWD 5000 yesterday afternoon and it had the omni wheels. I did not get a choice and ordered directly from Mammotion US. After watching all of your videos the last few weeks (and before ordering) I had it cutting my first zone in under 30 minutes including unboxing. Thanks for the videos on Luba!
What might be cool for you to film is to take both the original and the omni Lubas, and have them each turn on the spot. Then compare the wear on the grass after 5, 10, 20, 30... donut turns. We know the original wheels wear the grass on turns, but a side-by-side would show how much better the omni-wheels are, and whether they still tear up the grass a bit.
That second hill grade is as close to what I have to deal with but only about a 4 ft elevation...Even the original tires slip a bit when going horizontally dressing up the edges. Watching your vid the 3000 "might" be capable of handling it but glad I bought the 5000 with original tires.
I think both are great! I like the Omni more at the moment but that may be only because it's a new toy haha. We'll see after time passes how the Omni Wheels hold up. Regular wheels are actually showing a little ware already but I do put a lot of miles on them haha
Does Luba ever slide out of boundaries during edge passes if the yard ends on a down slope? Like Worx Landroid wire mower does? Or if Luba did somehow slide out of the yard internet boundary, would it drive back into the yard or error out?
so for a steep hill like you showed on the ditch bank, can you not program the cut to be up/down the hill vs going side to side on the hill? I'm in the mountains and have a sloped front yard that I am contemplating purchasing a Luba to take care of mowing that slope.
How is the luba working underneath trees with dense foliage? I have three trees standing close to each other with dense foliage. Three foliage is also quite close to the lawn almost like a curtain. Will it lose navigation or is it no big problem for it?
If it loses a good connection to the satellites it will pause where it's at until it gets a better signal. Dense tree cover could cause some issues with pausing every now and then
Did any of the people who talked to you have an issue with what you were doing? Or were they just curious? 24:00 Bad/inadequate gaskets around the USB-C port I presume. It doesn't look like that grey flap covering it and the SIM slot closes down very tight.
Can you post a quick video on the two Lubas maneuvering on gravel? I've decided to return my EcoFlow Blade for a refund and I'm considering the Luba 5000 with omni wheels but I need to know how it does turning during it's docking process if I decided to house it on gravel near my driveway. Can you also comment on their return policy? If I use it for a week and then decide to return it, is it possible and do they charge a return shipping fee or restock fee?
Sure I can post a gravel video! As for the return policy, best to ask Mammotion directly I would hate to give you bad advice on an item this expensive.
@@Crazypostman no worries, I already messaged their Amazon storefront but haven't heard back yet. I know their website states 30 day return policy for unopened boxes (unused Luba) but I imagine they don't accept returns on units that have been used or maybe it's a case-by-case basis. The issue is their lack of support and whether they stand behind their product enough to offer a 30-day return window for used units. I live in a valley surrounded by tall trees so it has me worried that they won't allow me to return it for a refund if it isn't able to hold a steady signal. I would consider putting it on an antenna tower if I knew it would perform with the centimeter accuracy but that's a pretty hefty investment for no guarantee performance increase. I gotta laugh, every time you say "hill" in the video it's how I say "heel" must be the differences in accents. 😃
@@Crazypostman If you haven't already shot the video showing the omni wheels on gravel -- you don't have to. I've decided to wait out on buying a Luba due to the return policy. They have a 30-day return window but it has to be unopened. It signals to me that they don't stand behind their product all that much if they aren't willing to let owners try it for any amount of time. I can test drive a vehicle before buying it, I can tour a house and have an inspection done, but I can't open the box to their lawnmower and expect to get a refund of any kind. No partial refund or anything. That's bizarre to me. Until they change their return policy I'm considering other options.
Ok you convinced me that the omni wheels are not a detriment compared to the regular wheels. I think the redesign of the real wheel material and tread also has something to do with the traction on a hill. One way to test this is to put omni wheels on the front of the old luba and see how it performs on the same patch of hill once the grass has grown back. Love the video's they are convincing me that the Luba will be the correct choice in robot mower for me once I settle on a date to purchase. Still kind of waiting for Mamotion customer service to get up to speed with where it should be for this type of unit cost.
Omni Wheels on the front of the old luba would perform horribly You're correct 😂 those old wheels were purposely made to slide a little easier, The new rear wheel is purposely made to be very sticky
With a hilly property this would definitely be a downgrade from what I saw in this video. Luba 5000 rated for for 75% Slope（37), in the video that slope appeared to be about that, if not a little more. the slope at my home is greater and I have no slippage with the old wheels. If you're concerned about a donut make a little patio or something so it doesn't have to turn on grass. I also have my charging station on a slight hill and the additional traction probably keeps it from sliding away. Love the unit so far, have had heavy rain and no issues after 4 months.
That kind of comparison is not going to work on my lawn, it's all about to start dying from the heat for the summer months, It's been 105-115°f (46°C) here! also the lack of rain. We are not allowed to water the lawn because of water shortages.
How did you get two lol I pre ordered mine and still couldn’t get it …filed a dispute with my cc company and received a email quite fast from Mammotion requesting I cancel my dispute because they are shipping it for like the 5th time supposedly…
The question is will Mammotion have the new wheels available for purchase. I have a very steep lawn so luba misses spots even with the original wheels.
The omni's rear wheels have much more traction than the original Wheels. It would be interesting to know if people will be able to change these out or if it would require a service center
Your videos give an honest insight as to the real world operation of the Luba. How long has the Luba been on the market? Thinking I will give the company till next spring before I make the purchase. Hopefully this will give them more time to work out problems as they come up and get there distribution and service logistics in place. Really like this mower compared to other gps type mowers. Would like to see how well it mows along curbs that have the typical drop on a residential street.
I like the way the omni-wheels work, I am just a little concerned how they will last over a period of time as they get debris and dried grass etc in them, clogging hem up.. Once they become "jammed", they will just be dragged across the grass ? Still holding off ordering, certainly until the UK get a distributor I can deal with. Great vids and information .Thankyou
@@Karyn451 Yep, but then it is not working as an Omni-wheel and will just be dragged across the grass when turning tight, rather than the individual elements rolling over the grass to prevent damage and aid the tight turns.. Hopefully it will work out OK and be easily cleaned off :)
Have you considered ordering some of the 3d-prints available for the Luba for a video review... like you see in thingyverse? Me personally, I would be interested in the blade cover and the RTK cover... maybe even the STOP button cover. Just an idea...
@Crazypostman I'm mowing slopes I never even thought about weedeating! Most steep slopes I set to mow up and down. Sideways trips the tilt sensor. Amazing little machine!
Thank you for the test! Interesting that it looks like it is nearly as good as OG at sloopes. My 3000 Just arrived, can't wait to install it at the weekend. I hope it's performing better then the Goat G1. Also interesting last 3 seconds where you show us the usb Port. I got a rubbermade blind cap for USB c. Maybe it's a good idea to double the safety by using it. Maybe also for the sim Slot. It would be sad if Mammotion will ad a killer Feature which needs those Ports and they are rusted
Should have run the OG Luba on the second hill to see if it slipped. Ironic that you used an EcoFlow power station considering they have the Blade mower with omni wheels, which apparently kinda sucks.
Everybody always tries the Climbing ability of the Luba AWD, how about a Rough Terrain test. That would answer a Lot of questions for prospective buyers and test the AWD & Suspension.
Great comparison! But if you had also run the original Luba on the steep slope then you would have also seen it overshoot and slide on the turns. It would be good if you tried your old Luba on that hill too, as people watching this might think the original would do that hill perfectly when it too will slip a little. I have both an original and an omni-wheel Luba and they both slip a bit on turns across a steep hill. However, as your videos show, turning the original involves sliding the solid wheels over the grass and more wheel spinning. The result is that the edges of the lawn get more torn up with the original, especially on slopes. Like you I love both my Lubas, but the omni-wheel version with the more rugged rear wheels is better, even on slopes.
Really enjoyed your video, brought a lot of inspiration. But I have a question about the luba, how does it clean up all that mowed and shredded grass, or ask if it really needs to clean up that shredded grass?
With luba you mow often enough so it just cuts a tiny amount per time so the clippings aren't noticeable and it always looks fresh. Maybe 2 or 3 or more if you want times per week. Whereas a regular mower you may let it get longer and only mow once a week
I have used a "regular" mower for decades and never cleanup grass clippings. If you mow often enough, as you should, you won't even see/notice the clippings. I learned that clippings and mulched leaves are fertilizers for grass. With that in mind, I don't buy much store fertilizers either.
Good video. Should have been 15 mins. shorter and it would be nice if you used your phone to measure the incline of the hill, but it was still helpful. Thanks.
Google pays me by inserting commercials I wouldn't make any money if I only made a few minute video. I did measure the angles and it is displayed on the bottom of the screen on each hill during the time lapse
I don't own a blade but I have experienced it. I would not consider it over a luba. It has a hard time turning on thick grass, I don't like It's mapping programming, It has a charger design defect. It's GPS seems even more fragile to losing signal than lubas. I don't like the way you control it with one input on the phone I'm much like Luba's two inputted manual/mapping controls better
@@Crazypostmanthank you for these thoughts. After seeing 6hrs+ of yt videos of both i agree with them. I have pretty rough grass with lots of uneven spots so i guess i need awd… I’ll continue watching your channel, keep up the good work and greetings from Slovenia, Europe
I was worried they were only going to release the omni wheels for the smaller sizes. This is VERY tempting now. I have a drainage ditch, and it looks like Luba would handle it. But I need to hold out until the wire-free Husqvarna is in the hands of customers.
@@Crazypostman the acreage is sightly less than double, but longevity and software matters the most to me. Mammotion seems like they will be a major player in this space, but you never know. The lack of videos is what scares me. It's like they don't want reviews. Very little info even from those who have it. I suspect embargoes or back room deals
@@RobotMowerTricks Mammotion has never once asked me not to say something or tried to sway me in a different direction anything like that. I know one of the other reviewers and if they would have given him some kind of embargo he would have told me, I don't think they're limiting content in that way.
@@Crazypostman sorry, I had a run on paragraph. Husqvarna's lack of videos is what scares me. I'm expecting an embargo to lift and we get a bunch of videos one week. But I don't know, that's just a guess. Luba's coverage has been great! And necessary for a new company.
AWD1000/3000/5000: Questions about Model Choice * It is easy to find by browser searching the Capacities of the 3 Mammotion Mower Models - the differences between battery size, acreage, slope, mowing time, charging time, and number of zones; * what I am not seeing in Reviews are the REASONS why people are choosing one model over another; * I am still waiting for - the Version with the HIGHER CUT given that I have Zones of Fesue (4”) and Bermuda (3”) - the Bugs to be Worked-Out on these Beta Versions [ ] Any Comments or Insights on the Differences or the Refinements that People are Hoping/Waiting for ?
Getting the bigger model really does not benefit you much at all if you don't need it for your yard size. I don't know of any robotic mowers that go up to 4 inches they're just not made to cut that high. The highest I know about is 3.6 Mammotion currently has a high-cut model in beta testing but not sure on its max height I doubt it's 4 in
@@Crazypostman Fellow OKie: Thank you for the Quick Answer. * 3.6” (like the Husqvarna High Cut Models) would work for me; again, I would want to get proven models (not beta) * I would also lean toward models that - mow longer/faster (more area per charge, - re-charge faster * so that the mower (which is going to have to cut 10k of yard - 2x per week - is not mowing all of the time.
What's your asking for doesn't really exist yet lol Maybe in the next year or two currently luba is as good as you're going to get, for the dollar anyway. Husqvarna's comparable model is More than twice as much and it's not even four-wheel drive.
If these could actually be driven left and right it would be complete beast mode. I don't know what a real omni wheel is I'm just going with Mammotions words 😂
@@Crazypostman Unfortunately there's no way you'd fit all the mechanics into those wheels to make them fully driven in both axis. Would be awesome though.
@Mammotion, now THIS is the video that convinced me that omni wheels are OK. Crazy did an excellent job of demonstrating this! Thank you very much Crazy for all your hard work on a hot/humid day! Well done Sir! And thanks Mammotion for sending a 3000 to crazy!
Thank you very much!
Unfortunately for me, I specifically ordered the OG version on Amazon. I waited for Prime Day and got a $200 discount. Mine still hasn't shipped though, so I wonder if they could switch my order to Omni. My yard has 50% of it as steep hills like shown in this video.
The Omni definitely makes the turns faster. This makes me feel better about the change. Thanks for the video!
Never saw someone herding lawnmowers before😂
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It's crap that Mammotion left it to you rather than explaining the differences themselves. Good job!
Tbf I trust a third party test more than promotional video from the company that made the change in their product.
@@dennan4 agreed but Mammotion are crap for not responding in any way
Yes, and the fact that it took me forever to figure out that they DID change it and to find any information on the change at all.
This changed my mind about the omni wheels. Thanks for this video
I have a hill on my property. It slips a bit if it needs to turn on the hill, but it has been doing great going in straight lines on the hill. Up, sideways, and diagonal.
Yeah turning at an angle seems to be the only time it has trouble It seems to be able to maintain a straight line even on a hill. This could be fixed in software, when turning on a hill it just needs to reverse further up the hill before it finishes the turn
I’d say it should keep track of its tilt angle and adjust the mowing plan with regard to that. Lots of steep incline, mow it up and down the hill rather than across it.
All this could be fixed in software It's just going to require some finessing. Even if it just reversed up the hill A little higher before trying to make the turn so it's turning while it's going down instead of trying to turn uphill. Because it was the turning that was the problem It was able to go straight even on the extreme angle.
I just learned something I did not know about the luba's. You mention around 21:20 that you can have multiple Luba's on a single RTK unit but you cannot have multiple RTK units on a single luba which is really to bad as having more than one RTK might allow you to cover a dead spot or heavy tree cover area that you otherwise might need to create and "do not go" area.
If you have one RTK with a completely clear view of the sky there's no need for two. The second RTK unit wouldn't receive any additional satellites that the first one is not receiving. So it wouldn't contribute any better. The only way more than one would help would be if your property was so large that Luba goes out of radio range of the RTK but this would be hard to accomplish I personally tested the RTK's radio range to 700 m and I've had comments that said they've tested it out to 1 km. But Luba is not programmed to receive two reference stations at once.
@@Crazypostmanyou are now in a great place to test what happens if Luba picks up two RTKs (like a neighbor getting a Luba too). Curious if there are possible interference problems.
@@justinblanding5897 there's no interference, each RTK has their own address. I have several other LoRa projects all on 915 megahertz they don't interfere either
Got my Luba AWD 5000 yesterday afternoon and it had the omni wheels. I did not get a choice and ordered directly from Mammotion US. After watching all of your videos the last few weeks (and before ordering) I had it cutting my first zone in under 30 minutes including unboxing. Thanks for the videos on Luba!
I hope you love it as much as I do!
on my property, I have a section that looks like that 41deg hill. You place the phone directly on the grass. Will measure tomorrow.
Great video! Loving my Omni 3000 thanks to your videos
I appreciate the comment!
Looks like the old Luva has a lot more rear wheel spin going up the new one doesn’t have any wheel spin on the back
Yes the new rear wheel design is much more stickier
Yes omni wheels are the best but the rear ones are much better now also. The new rear wheels with the omni are the right combination now. 👍
Thank you for your posts, vet din watching, and this was a very fun comparison.
What might be cool for you to film is to take both the original and the omni Lubas, and have them each turn on the spot. Then compare the wear on the grass after 5, 10, 20, 30... donut turns. We know the original wheels wear the grass on turns, but a side-by-side would show how much better the omni-wheels are, and whether they still tear up the grass a bit.
I could do this!
Only missing feature I can see now is a camera to enhance obstacles avoidance. (For small objects).
That second hill grade is as close to what I have to deal with but only about a 4 ft elevation...Even the original tires slip a bit when going horizontally dressing up the edges. Watching your vid the 3000 "might" be capable of handling it but glad I bought the 5000 with original tires.
I think both are great! I like the Omni more at the moment but that may be only because it's a new toy haha. We'll see after time passes how the Omni Wheels hold up. Regular wheels are actually showing a little ware already but I do put a lot of miles on them haha
Does Luba ever slide out of boundaries during edge passes if the yard ends on a down slope? Like Worx Landroid wire mower does?
Or if Luba did somehow slide out of the yard internet boundary, would it drive back into the yard or error out?
If Luba is out of bounds You cannot tell it to move it'll say it has no path because it's out of the mapped area
How does luba handle storm drains?. I have a drain under my driveway, will luba just drive off it and crash?
so it's still AWD but with omni wheels. I thought it was only 2WD and the front omni act like caster.
All models are all-wheel drive. They were going to produce a two-wheel drive model but they never did, they changed it to all-wheel drive
so for a steep hill like you showed on the ditch bank, can you not program the cut to be up/down the hill vs going side to side on the hill? I'm in the mountains and have a sloped front yard that I am contemplating purchasing a Luba to take care of mowing that slope.
Yes you can change it to go up and down instead of side to side in manual
How is the luba working underneath trees with dense foliage?
I have three trees standing close to each other with dense foliage. Three foliage is also quite close to the lawn almost like a curtain.
Will it lose navigation or is it no big problem for it?
If it loses a good connection to the satellites it will pause where it's at until it gets a better signal. Dense tree cover could cause some issues with pausing every now and then
Did any of the people who talked to you have an issue with what you were doing? Or were they just curious?
24:00 Bad/inadequate gaskets around the USB-C port I presume. It doesn't look like that grey flap covering it and the SIM slot closes down very tight.
It was all people that knew me, it's a small town 😂 just curious...
Can you post a quick video on the two Lubas maneuvering on gravel? I've decided to return my EcoFlow Blade for a refund and I'm considering the Luba 5000 with omni wheels but I need to know how it does turning during it's docking process if I decided to house it on gravel near my driveway. Can you also comment on their return policy? If I use it for a week and then decide to return it, is it possible and do they charge a return shipping fee or restock fee?
Sure I can post a gravel video! As for the return policy, best to ask Mammotion directly I would hate to give you bad advice on an item this expensive.
@@Crazypostman no worries, I already messaged their Amazon storefront but haven't heard back yet. I know their website states 30 day return policy for unopened boxes (unused Luba) but I imagine they don't accept returns on units that have been used or maybe it's a case-by-case basis. The issue is their lack of support and whether they stand behind their product enough to offer a 30-day return window for used units. I live in a valley surrounded by tall trees so it has me worried that they won't allow me to return it for a refund if it isn't able to hold a steady signal. I would consider putting it on an antenna tower if I knew it would perform with the centimeter accuracy but that's a pretty hefty investment for no guarantee performance increase. I gotta laugh, every time you say "hill" in the video it's how I say "heel" must be the differences in accents. 😃
@@Crazypostman If you haven't already shot the video showing the omni wheels on gravel -- you don't have to. I've decided to wait out on buying a Luba due to the return policy. They have a 30-day return window but it has to be unopened. It signals to me that they don't stand behind their product all that much if they aren't willing to let owners try it for any amount of time. I can test drive a vehicle before buying it, I can tour a house and have an inspection done, but I can't open the box to their lawnmower and expect to get a refund of any kind. No partial refund or anything. That's bizarre to me. Until they change their return policy I'm considering other options.
Ok you convinced me that the omni wheels are not a detriment compared to the regular wheels. I think the redesign of the real wheel material and tread also has something to do with the traction on a hill. One way to test this is to put omni wheels on the front of the old luba and see how it performs on the same patch of hill once the grass has grown back. Love the video's they are convincing me that the Luba will be the correct choice in robot mower for me once I settle on a date to purchase. Still kind of waiting for Mamotion customer service to get up to speed with where it should be for this type of unit cost.
Omni Wheels on the front of the old luba would perform horribly You're correct 😂 those old wheels were purposely made to slide a little easier, The new rear wheel is purposely made to be very sticky
With a hilly property this would definitely be a downgrade from what I saw in this video. Luba 5000 rated for for 75% Slope（37), in the video that slope appeared to be about that, if not a little more. the slope at my home is greater and I have no slippage with the old wheels. If you're concerned about a donut make a little patio or something so it doesn't have to turn on grass. I also have my charging station on a slight hill and the additional traction probably keeps it from sliding away.
Love the unit so far, have had heavy rain and no issues after 4 months.
I want to see how your own lawn looks before the Luba and after 3-4 days with the Luba.
That kind of comparison is not going to work on my lawn, it's all about to start dying from the heat for the summer months, It's been 105-115°f (46°C) here! also the lack of rain. We are not allowed to water the lawn because of water shortages.
Do the new wheels seem to be less aggressive on the turf? My lawn shows significant wear where Luba performs its multipoint turns.
How do you think the assistance can be for replacement wheels and other “damageable” components?
2 year limited warranty and minimal parts on their store is what's holding me back. Husqvarna was also bad for part replacements.
that would be Great if you could just buy a new wheel if you needed one, but there's a motor in the hub so it probably makes it more complicated
How did you get two lol I pre ordered mine and still couldn’t get it …filed a dispute with my cc company and received a email quite fast from Mammotion requesting I cancel my dispute because they are shipping it for like the 5th time supposedly…
It took 8 months for me to get the first one and the second one it took about 1 month
The question is will Mammotion have the new wheels available for purchase. I have a very steep lawn so luba misses spots even with the original wheels.
The omni's rear wheels have much more traction than the original Wheels. It would be interesting to know if people will be able to change these out or if it would require a service center
Your videos give an honest insight as to the real world operation of the Luba. How long has the Luba been on the market? Thinking I will give the company till next spring before I make the purchase. Hopefully this will give them more time to work out problems as they come up and get there distribution and service logistics in place. Really like this mower compared to other gps type mowers. Would like to see how well it mows along curbs that have the typical drop on a residential street.
As long as you have good position data it's very accurate It struggles next to buildings and under thick tree cover.
Cool video, Crazypostman. What all material did you use for that makeshift Luba house? I like it. Thanks
It is a plastic window well it's he biggest one home Depot had. It's almost not deep enough The front bumper hangs out from underneath just a little
Like you said in one of your previous videos, there are more points of failure with the omni wheels. Are you finding that they gum up or fail?
if I do I will share. I have not had this long enough to have any issues yet.
What about setting the turning to zero turn instead of point turning?
I actually haven't tried that. I will go try it here in a minute and see what the difference is
@@Crazypostman I switched my “OG” to the Zero turn and love it!!! Way better than the Point turning.
@@DennisWarner I kind of like watching it on point turn because it bounces back and forth and it looks like it's dancing kind of 😆
@@Crazypostman lol!!! Nothing wrong with that at all.
I like the way the omni-wheels work, I am just a little concerned how they will last over a period of time as they get debris and dried grass etc in them, clogging hem up.. Once they become "jammed", they will just be dragged across the grass ?
Still holding off ordering, certainly until the UK get a distributor I can deal with.
Great vids and information .Thankyou
If the rollers get clogged and jammed it just becomes a "normal" wheel....
@@Karyn451 Yep, but then it is not working as an Omni-wheel and will just be dragged across the grass when turning tight, rather than the individual elements rolling over the grass to prevent damage and aid the tight turns.. Hopefully it will work out OK and be easily cleaned off :)
I never thought of it that way! It will be no worse than the OG luba If the rollers break down.
Have you considered ordering some of the 3d-prints available for the Luba for a video review... like you see in thingyverse? Me personally, I would be interested in the blade cover and the RTK cover... maybe even the STOP button cover. Just an idea...
Didn't know these things existed, but I probably won't to be honest 😂 saving up my money for a Tesla Cybertruck!
@@Crazypostman Telsa Cybertruck... sweet!
You can can ask your neighbours to mow their front yard 😆
My hills are so steep my Lubas slip sideways trying to traverse sideways. Often tripping the tilt sensor. Much steeper and rougher than these hills.
That must be well over Luba's working limits then so no reason to be upset about it slipping on that
@Crazypostman I'm mowing slopes I never even thought about weedeating! Most steep slopes I set to mow up and down. Sideways trips the tilt sensor. Amazing little machine!
Thank you for the test! Interesting that it looks like it is nearly as good as OG at sloopes. My 3000 Just arrived, can't wait to install it at the weekend. I hope it's performing better then the Goat G1. Also interesting last 3 seconds where you show us the usb Port. I got a rubbermade blind cap for USB c. Maybe it's a good idea to double the safety by using it. Maybe also for the sim Slot. It would be sad if Mammotion will ad a killer Feature which needs those Ports and they are rusted
I measured one of my banks Luba is mowing at 86%.
My only concern is gravel or sticks getting stuck in the omni wheels. Maybe @crazypostman would be willing to test that for us?
I could send it out in the driveway and have it do donuts for 5 minutes and then see how many rocks are stuck? 😂
@@Crazypostman That sounds great!
If anything gets stuck in the rollers they just become "normal" wheels...
MERCI
would be great if you could back up and restore the maps
Except my USB port is shot completely rusted over.
Should have run the OG Luba on the second hill to see if it slipped.
Ironic that you used an EcoFlow power station considering they have the Blade mower with omni wheels, which apparently kinda sucks.
Yeah they probably need to just stick to power stations huh 🤣
Everybody always tries the Climbing ability of the Luba AWD, how about a Rough Terrain test. That would answer a Lot of questions for prospective buyers and test the AWD & Suspension.
15:55 go ahead and set up the mowing area with 3 passes and get back to us.
Great comparison! But if you had also run the original Luba on the steep slope then you would have also seen it overshoot and slide on the turns. It would be good if you tried your old Luba on that hill too, as people watching this might think the original would do that hill perfectly when it too will slip a little.
I have both an original and an omni-wheel Luba and they both slip a bit on turns across a steep hill. However, as your videos show, turning the original involves sliding the solid wheels over the grass and more wheel spinning. The result is that the edges of the lawn get more torn up with the original, especially on slopes.
Like you I love both my Lubas, but the omni-wheel version with the more rugged rear wheels is better, even on slopes.
oh my, that was really entertaining and informative, thank you for your good work. 🙏
Now I'm hopeful that Luba will make a slope close to my runway 🙂
I appreciate the comment! Thanks for watching.
Really enjoyed your video, brought a lot of inspiration. But I have a question about the luba, how does it clean up all that mowed and shredded grass, or ask if it really needs to clean up that shredded grass?
With luba you mow often enough so it just cuts a tiny amount per time so the clippings aren't noticeable and it always looks fresh. Maybe 2 or 3 or more if you want times per week. Whereas a regular mower you may let it get longer and only mow once a week
I have used a "regular" mower for decades and never cleanup grass clippings. If you mow often enough, as you should, you won't even see/notice the clippings. I learned that clippings and mulched leaves are fertilizers for grass. With that in mind, I don't buy much store fertilizers either.
@@Crazypostman thank you very much!
@@mr.c6674 Understood! Thank you very much!
@@Crazypostman what do you think are the areas of LUBA that need to be improved?
Good video. Should have been 15 mins. shorter and it would be nice if you used your phone to measure the incline of the hill, but it was still helpful. Thanks.
Google pays me by inserting commercials I wouldn't make any money if I only made a few minute video. I did measure the angles and it is displayed on the bottom of the screen on each hill during the time lapse
Omni is winning for sure. I might switch.
Nice video. Thank you. BTw did yOu ever tríed ecoflow blade? Id love to see how you rate it vs luba. Also is luba’s battery user replacable?
I don't think lubas batteries are designed to be user replaced, but it wouldn't be hard to do yourself anyway.
I don't own a blade but I have experienced it. I would not consider it over a luba. It has a hard time turning on thick grass, I don't like It's mapping programming, It has a charger design defect. It's GPS seems even more fragile to losing signal than lubas. I don't like the way you control it with one input on the phone I'm much like Luba's two inputted manual/mapping controls better
@@Crazypostmanthank you for these thoughts. After seeing 6hrs+ of yt videos of both i agree with them. I have pretty rough grass with lots of uneven spots so i guess i need awd… I’ll continue watching your channel, keep up the good work and greetings from Slovenia, Europe
I was worried they were only going to release the omni wheels for the smaller sizes. This is VERY tempting now. I have a drainage ditch, and it looks like Luba would handle it. But I need to hold out until the wire-free Husqvarna is in the hands of customers.
Yeah I'm sure the Husqvarna will be a quality product, I've used them for years. But it's literally slightly more than double the price of the luba 😲
@@Crazypostman the acreage is sightly less than double, but longevity and software matters the most to me. Mammotion seems like they will be a major player in this space, but you never know. The lack of videos is what scares me. It's like they don't want reviews. Very little info even from those who have it. I suspect embargoes or back room deals
@@RobotMowerTricks Mammotion has never once asked me not to say something or tried to sway me in a different direction anything like that. I know one of the other reviewers and if they would have given him some kind of embargo he would have told me, I don't think they're limiting content in that way.
@@Crazypostman sorry, I had a run on paragraph. Husqvarna's lack of videos is what scares me. I'm expecting an embargo to lift and we get a bunch of videos one week. But I don't know, that's just a guess. Luba's coverage has been great! And necessary for a new company.
@@RobotMowerTricks oooooh You're right I haven't seen too many YTs about their EPOS 🤔
This is very impressive!
I'm really curious about what type of napalm you have.😅
AWD1000/3000/5000: Questions about Model Choice
* It is easy to find by browser searching the Capacities of the 3 Mammotion Mower Models - the differences between battery size, acreage, slope, mowing time, charging time, and number of zones;
* what I am not seeing in Reviews are the REASONS why people are choosing one model over another;
* I am still waiting for
- the Version with the HIGHER CUT given that I have Zones of Fesue (4”) and Bermuda (3”)
- the Bugs to be Worked-Out on these Beta Versions
[ ] Any Comments or Insights on the Differences or the Refinements that People are Hoping/Waiting for ?
Getting the bigger model really does not benefit you much at all if you don't need it for your yard size. I don't know of any robotic mowers that go up to 4 inches they're just not made to cut that high. The highest I know about is 3.6 Mammotion currently has a high-cut model in beta testing but not sure on its max height I doubt it's 4 in
@@Crazypostman Fellow OKie: Thank you for the Quick Answer.
* 3.6” (like the Husqvarna High Cut Models) would work for me; again, I would want to get proven models (not beta)
* I would also lean toward models that
- mow longer/faster (more area per charge,
- re-charge faster
* so that the mower (which is going to have to cut 10k of yard - 2x per week - is not mowing all of the time.
What's your asking for doesn't really exist yet lol Maybe in the next year or two currently luba is as good as you're going to get, for the dollar anyway. Husqvarna's comparable model is More than twice as much and it's not even four-wheel drive.
Very cool, can't wait until this technology becomes mainstream and cheaper models are available.
Yes we need multiple good choices to choose from!
Are these the 5000 models?
I'm sorry I should have mentioned the one I'm calling OG with the regular wheels is a 5,000 The one with the Omni wheels is a 3000
Great vid. They're not really "omni wheels" though, more like partial casters...
True omni wheels can be driven left/right, whereas these just slip.
If these could actually be driven left and right it would be complete beast mode. I don't know what a real omni wheel is I'm just going with Mammotions words 😂
If they had front wheels that turned like a remote control car it would be much better.
@@Crazypostman Unfortunately there's no way you'd fit all the mechanics into those wheels to make them fully driven in both axis. Would be awesome though.