The WARZONE META Changes as of late have revealed a trend that seems to be limiting the potential of a lot of weapons this year... Thanks for watching!
The reason they do that is to push people to buy the game cause lvling up guns in multi-player is easier and faster than lvling it in wz nd we all know all they care about is $$$
Am I the only person that remembers that like 3 week period in wz1 after they buffed all the mw19 and cw guns where literally almost everything besides the dragonov was usable there was no defined meta ofc tho cod being cod they buffed something after a few weeks
MW2 need recoil/firing visibilty buffs. No reason to keep the old guns in the game if they are unusable. I shouldnt NEED a conversion kit to make a gun usable
Yeah, and those big barrel need major mobility buff, too. Just see how the Bruen Bridle Heavy barrel destroy the Tr76, one of the few competitive mw2 rifle.
They don't care if they are usable. In fact, they prefer it if they are not. They just want to be able to say that you have access to what you spent money on. Ask yourself how can Activision get the most money out of this situation and that's usually what they implement. " I spent my hard earned money on these guns. Can I still use them?". "Of course you can valued customer, you can use all the blueprints we sold you anytime your heart desires. Keep in mind, however, that if getting kills is your goal, you might want to purchase some newer blueprints that leverage the latest meta technologies :P. Thank you and good night".
The meta was fine before they added the Kar. Now it’s just boring. Guns come and go but before the Kar there was 1 gun in particular dominating, some were better sure but not like it is now where you go in a room and see 56 sniper glints and die from the same weapon every time. Kar has completely changed the resurgance game mode, it’s gone from people running around to staying on top of buildings
But there was always a major problem with snipers, also back in MW2, I miss viable snipers that can one shot headshot and where you can zoom in quickly and play competitive with it. It was soo boring for the longest time to stick to MPs and ARs and sometimes shotguns. Not having a decent sniper rifle is really showing that ppl would cry about it bc now the users are camping in buildings/on rooftops and just snipe everyone across the map. I understand tho that on rebirth it is actually a little bit silly as the map is not that big. The fact is that snipers should be as strong as the Kar98, everything else doesnt make sense. At least reduce the body/leg damage and make it one shot to the head from within unlimited range, everything else is stupid as this is not the purpose of a sniper
Guns feeling like pea shooters takes me out of it a lot. It's like I could just go play airsoft if I wanted to but in a video game I want to use deadly weapons I would never play around with.
My biggest issue is that most nerfs and buffs come from the changes sledgehammer makes to the multiplayer and only a few things are adjusted for WZ only
My biggest complaint on PS5 with a really monitor is I cannot see dark enemies at all when I shoot with an iron sights. If I go watch a streamer on twitch, I see them just fine when they do it. Why can’t I?
Its super annoying, but best workaround (other than them actually fixing their game but lets be honest....) is once you see the ammo number reset just yy and it cancels the animation
I'm just confused on how ammo calibers don't have different damage. Also, unique or niche weapons should be more impactful if mastered. They rockets on the game and no one running bomb squad but you can't one shot unless it direct hits? I understand that this isn't the most realistic game but games like Halo and Gears basically put players against one another with the same guns, meaning skill separates them. On this, you have to have a meta gun. They basically force you to play with certain guns.
Remember when we have ONE weapon that could compete with the Kar past 40 meters? Then the devs decide it's "too dominant" and nerf it into the ground leading to one of the worst and most frustrating seasons in Warzone history (and I'm not even talking about the cheaters this season).
If the long range guns that hit hard were more accurate the kar would not be so dominant. The lmg and ar’s are a joke. As soon as the cry babies cry they get there way. It’s just sad. Wz1 had so much more variety and the kar was just as strong. Also the companies are just here to sell bundles. Facts
This is every PvP game ever. It's the industry standard at this point. Ubisoft did this to the game, 'The Division' making gear you may have litterally grinded for hours or even days for useless. Every game.
The whole idea of loadouts is one of the things that made Warzone so unique, and fun. Back when my friends actually played, it was fun to chat about what guns we were we each using that game. M4, Grau, Ram7, Amax and then the XM4 and CWAK and Krig, etcc......and all of them worked. They were each unique, but they all worked well enough for casual play. We could play for a few hours pulling different guns each game - that was FUN. Now it's like, meh...use whatever but these 2 guns are going to destroy you if you don't always use them. Why even have loadouts if 90% of them are the same guns. And this Kar meta now is terrible. The glints look like fireworks, alllll over the place....everyone has a Kar and they're camped up. And the AA on the KAR shots is wild, there is just no counter except stacking 8 smokes - or just grabbing your own KAR and hiding yourself.
This is a good point, buffing the other guns around the best stats atm is better than nerfing it. Bullet velocity and effective damage ranges are imo the stats that need an improvement at the very least in marksman and snipers.
They want to create that “top dog”. People will buy blueprints out of the store if there is that one dominant gun that everyone knows is the meta. They will change it and then sell more blueprints of that meta weapon. All about the sales and income.
Zach, I think this is tapping into some human behavioral dynamics :). The vast majority of casual players like to play with the same guns especially if it took some time to level up those guns and they have built some muscle memory with recoil pattern and any other quirks. If the guns are "slightly nerfed" or if the guns are "reasonably close" to the new meta most casual players won't take the time or the money to change weapons. So, in order to entice casuals to use different weapons, buy blueprints and other gun related bundles, they have to make the new guns dramatically better and their old guns dramatically worse. Not only that, if people have invested money in a blueprint, they want to use their cool guns so if these blueprints are "reasonably close" to the new meta they won't switch. I think Activision's gun nerf and buff strategy solely hinges around DLC sales. Just like SBMM or EOMM, it's all about keeping you gaming more and spending more. It's a cynical point of view but I believe all the decisions made by Activision are about prying every possible dollar from your fingers :).
A better idea would be to make all sniper rifles and a few of the marksman rifles one shot within their maximum damage range only. Then make it so explosive ammo would allow you to have an infinite one shot headshot range.
Changing the settings on a weapon is something a dev can do during their poop break. It’s simple; buff weapons that a team has been working on skins/store bundles for, let it go for a couple of weeks, nerf it and buff another gun the team has also made store bundles for. Money money money. That’s all this is. It isn’t about the game, it isn’t about the players, it isn’t about fun. MONEY. No amount of complaining will ever change it at this point. Now that the cash cow has been established, this will be our reality.
I get nervous honestly when we as a collective (your viewers) discuss the different loadouts provide for people to try, whether it's in BR or Resurgence, people start to use them and the Devs catch on to how effective they are, and in turn they receive a nerf. A good example of that is the JAK Signal Burst Holger 556, paired with the JAK Scimitar FJX Horus. Those two together are a deadly combination, and just the Scimitar on its own with the low recoil and high mobility, I already expect it'll be getting a nerf at some point. As for the Signal Burst, I don't know.
In my opinion this is a huge reason the KAR has become so op. First, all of the other snipers are simply worse… idk how they managed that. But more importantly, the mid-long range rifle meta has become so slow that you just can’t compete with the fire rate of the KAR. We didn’t see this in wz1 because we had things like the amax which would kill you in as much time as it took to get your second shot off with the KAR
My main reason for leaving warzone is not being able to keep up with the meta. I don’t play for very long and when I do I have to go level the new gun. The gun will be locked and I just don’t have the grind time to unlock, level the gun, then actually have time to go play and use the gun in an actual match. Just a waste of time. Then the gun gets nerfed and I have to restart that process
I 100% agree with this and have been saying this forever. There's a few different guns that I love the feel of but they just don't stand up when someone has the current meta.
They do need to evaluate all weapons adjustments by looking at the overall weapon pool. Not just within the category. The Kar98 is the perfect example of this. People screaming for it to get nerfed but not thinking about the implications for the category. For instance before the Kar98 who used a marksman rifle? *crickets chirping*. There is no meta for the marksman outside of the Kar98. While there is always a meta option for SMGs, ARs, LMGs, BRs and snipers. Is the Kar98 outperforming snipers? Then there is a problem with the snipers.
I wish they would go back to the blackout weapons system, no weapon grinding for the "meta" attachments. You had 2 choices for barrels, extended or silenced, same with mags fast or extended.
As much as I would like it, I don't think it matters more than money. When something like the KAR comes along and is so strong and/or nostalgic, it drives some people to spend and buy whether it be a battle pass upgrade, a pack in the store, or just generally playing more (player engagement comes up on earnings calls) to get it right now. Being there are millions of players, if 1 in 100 buy a pack for $20 that's at least a gun that is 7-figure profit. It can't be that hard to balance guns with algos that take recoil, movement, damage ranges, accuracy (aim sway/hip/tac/visual distortion), mag size/reload time into account (especially if you limit some of these attachments).
I do not think we will see a significant lifting up of MW2 guns where they are on par with MW3 guns because time is quickly passing and we will see BO6 drop. I also think as you have pointed out that if the MW2 guns are not cut out of the upcoming seasons of Warzone we will just be overwhelmed by too much of a selection...most of which will not be used anyway
Hey Zack, you hit the nail on its head! I stopped buying camos, blueprints, and the battle pass because of the reasons you mentioned in this video. In fact, I haven't spent a single penny on the game since Caldera. I also stopped doing camo grinds. When I did buy a "Pay to win" blueprint and they nerfed it made me feel like a chump or a sucker. I have often wondered if we buy a gun for certain specs and they nerf it, isn't that a bait and switch?? I mean it is like going to buy a new V8 Mustang bc of the horsepower and you drive it around for a few weeks. Then one day you open your garage and all of a sudden you have a V6. If you buy (pay cash!) for a blueprint it should not be nerfed. It is bad business and they will not get any more of my money
Man.. I've been saying this. I really want to use other weapons and have some sort of individuality but when I do build a class that should work. Doesn't because there's always a broken ttk meta. Give me the blackout days of finding a gun and picking up attachments and perks
That's what I have been saying for a long time! Buff not nerf that's how you diversify! All weapons should have closer times to kill, but have advantages and disadvantages depending on your game style. The MTZ 6.8 is an example of how you nerfed a whole category to the point of being useless, until the Kar-98 made a comeback.
This is exactly what I would like to see. All the nerfing has killed this game for me. I stopped playing and don’t have any desire to keep grinding new guns. I understand certain guns need to be nerfed as mentioned. But the constant tweaking is exhausting, and I don’t have the time to keep finding and grinding new guns. Trying a new style of play is fun. But working on your 5th AR, or 6th SMG - just dumb. You can’t get comfortable with a load out - knowing it will likely be nerfed and the feel will be destroyed.
I’ve been saying it for years. Make damage and recoil based on the caliber of the gun. 556 less damage but lower recoil when compared to a 308 that will do more damage but more recoil. I think they have made EVERYTHING way more difficult than anything. But no matter what a sniper should be a one shot drop. One 50 cal sniper isn’t magically less powerful than the other. Tired of only being able to use one true sniper. Think they dropped the ball and fell on their face with a lot of this.
It would be nice to see a game mode with higher health like, 500 or 600 most of that being regular health, not plates. Extra plates was a terrible idea, i think mostly because when you dont have plates youre at a bigger disadvantage and it plays super cheesy
I haven't been a fan of any of the AR's this year...I've been using the SOA Subverter since it released--I love how it feels and it hits like a truck if you hit your shots.
Seems like every time we get a gun that's very good it always gets nerfed into the ground in a few weeks and then we're left with a dull meta until the next good DLC weapon comes out. Watch them nerf the Kar98 hard next week and make it unusable instead of tweaking it a bit and making other mediocre weapons more viable.
The problem is they have wayyyyy to many options. A game like apex legends has stayed relevant for forever and rarely ever add a new weapon they just cycle the meta and meta attachments each season but on the same guns that have been out for forever. Even a game like halo that’s been relevant longer then pretty much any competitive game and it’s always had a very select few weapons to chose from
I’m having success with the MTZ 556/Bryson 890 combo. The Kar 98 is clear cut meta but this combo works and is a good way to close the gap on these stationary snipers
The simple fact of call of duty is that they had a perfect game in the first warzone in verdansk. Before they screwed it up with Cold War that no one wanted and vanguard. The map was solid , the movement was great and the guns were balanced. Then they tried to improve on a perfect game from a greed standpoint and screwed the entire game up and it has never recovered. Everyone in this community is just waiting for a better shooter to come out so we will never have to play this garbage again and they know that.
Couldn’t agree more. They had damn near the perfect formula and basically threw it out the window. They literally saw that they had millions of users, were on top of the world and decided nope, we need to change all of this
Great video (as always), and I love the idea of having 4 or 5 viable weapons (depending on the category) instead of 1 or 2. Whenever a new weapon is dropped, I always feel like I'm playing catchup to grind and rank it up for WZ. By the time it's ready, the meta has come and gone.
The AA on the Kar98 needs to happen but THAT IS IT. Buff other SMG's and AR's to counter the Kar so sniping stays healthy but has competition. Its ridiculous that when nerfs happen they nerf it too much and its irrelevant to use. Idk how they dont understand this by now. Weve all voiced it. You have so many videos on this. Surely they know. People would use so many different weapons if they do this properly
That idea would help the game much more because no one's going to buy bundles for the game when a weapon's only gonna be meta or viable for around 2 weeks. No one's gonna spend point on it. But people would spend points on a weapon when it would be more competitive for a much longer period of time. Call of Duty would get more sales on weapon blueprints and bungles. And we would be happy because we would have weapons that were viable or meta for a much longer period of time. Win win...
I've been playing warzone only since MW3 dropped and I've been having lots of fun. I then discovered a website to look out for builds and stuff and the website also showed a certain percentage of the guns usage and when i started the top guns weren't even in the 3-4% people using them. Since they just decided to nerf the top dog instead of just buffing other guns, the top 5 guns on that website are all going from 5-10% of people using them, which make a really boring meta because it's pretty much always the same guns that we see on people ( right now, superi and kar98k obviously ). Would love the same as what you said and what many people are saying, just buff guns to bring them more in line toward maybe the meta weapon or close to so we can have more variety and a more diverse warzone experience!
Every gun categorie should have the same ttk ur attachments should make the deference, u should pick ur attachments carefully according 2 ur play style, power ads or handling
Mental to think i used the hdr + kilo setup from day 1 wz1 till caldera, maybe even half way through that, i cant remember if available. But with this warzone ive had to change guns every season to keep up with the meta as the base guns feel like im shooting bubbles 😢
Just like now. We know a kar98 nerf is coming. Instead of buffing the already faster Handling bolt action marksman rifles like the SAB-50 and the SPR-200 to make them as competitive as the kar98. There is no healthy meta. It’s on life support constantly. The only weapon I seen honestly buffed to make a huge difference that’s stayed as such is the SVA with its very consistent damage output and the rival 9 with the conversion kit. Every other gun does feel trash. Hell the FR 5.56 could have had a headshot damage buff for its first 40 meter range. Get a useless rifle actually usable. Yet we don’t see that. They are too busy nerfing the decent weapons.
would be amazing to see gun play much like earlier titles where everyone had their specific guns they ran and they would still do damage to lobbies and it was cool seeing so many different guns all the time. i.e. now its all KAR98k, superi or fjx and thats it
Not only is this meta weak / stale but there’s no skill based gun either. The SOA was hard to use but worth it! Just like the Amax or Cold War ak. We need something for people who out in the work. New skill based weapons are dealing with 40 round mags vs recoil/skill
Totally agree. If you keep nerfing the best guns, over and over, we end up having only bad guns. Right now, long range gun play (AR/LMG) feels kind of sad. They need to change their balancing strat..
Im enjoying the superi and kar before they get nerfed . also sucks that the meta changes so much that getting prestige camo on a off meta gun seems pointless . i have small pool of obsidian guns i hope the new meta shifts to those when the new prestige camo drops . fingers crossed for damascus but will most likely be diamond prestige
100% agree with buffing more guns than nerfing the best to the ground. keeping a handful of guns top tier is the way to go. Example being the DG and the Holger 26, before the DG became META they were neck and neck and you had the freedom to use either gun and you wouldnt be punished in game for using one over the other. Only after they buffed the DG was the Holger not considered.
Aside from some adjustment mishaps I think it's clearly intentional that they try and make the new guns and obtainable attachments better than the previous ones to keep player retention better and promote the battle pass, keep players engaged etc. Grind to unlock the next best thing and play a lot before it's nerfed. There is strong financial incentives to do so. The downside is lack of variety, it's easier to just nerf the top dog at some point instead of buffing everything else I doubt they will change this but it's good that you're raising the issue. I'm kinda mixed on this On the upside it keeps everyone changing their guns and play style which is nice and keeps things interesting and adds variety for a while On the downside it really keeps things unfair for casuals and who don't play as often as you don't have access to the best things right away and have to constantly keep up with the next best thing.
I would like it if CoD introduced training concepts like Rocket League has. I could improve on shooting an enemy sliding into me. I tend to aim left to right, right to left and it’s like a desperation to hit bullets but not stopping when I’ve centered over the player. It pays off some but I would like it if they introduced training kit packages or something like that. I would always like to improve.
Since I've been playing this game this is the way they've done it. Devs saying they want to change that is laughable. If they wanted to they would have.
Idk man..I feel they on to something.smg should always beat anything up to 12-15m...AR should beat everything between 15-45m...LMGs should only hit hard 40m+...snipers should not be as crazy as the kar98,but not to slow either.and oc headshott kill.
I honestly hate how there’s always a TH-camr saying there’s meta updates new patch notes but if log in warzone and check patch notes there’s not one since January-February even on the call of duty website 😂😂😂😂yall really be finnessing online
There is just too many guns attachments camos etc. the prestige camos are the best reward that they have come up with. I’m cool with letting go of all the stuff . The grind is getting old . They need new type of rewards that are enticing. I do think that you should get something in the new title for letting go of all your grindables. Like a trading system .
Honestly I think when they added the extra plate they were going in the right direction because guns were slightly OP. Where I think they need to make adjustments are with assault rifles having better damage at long range and actually worse damage at short range. Now I don't mean that necessarily the TTK will be slower, let's see for example you give the subverter a TTK of 750 from its furthest distance maybe give it 700 from its shortest. I think ultimately an SMG should have a huge advantage up close compared to an assault rifle. With that happening and makes players better choose their weapons. It also makes it so assault rifles can actually compete with a sniper rifle. With the BP 50 I can beam people with that gun and still it feels like a peashooter or you're shooting marshmallows. Another option or something they could do is like they did in warzone 1. The better guns are tougher to control but they slap if you hit with them. Obviously warzone 1 guns were easier to control than warzone 2, but I think there's plenty of ways they can balance out the guns. Maybe high risk high reward type situation. Overall I think they need to adjust the weapons properly for an SMG to have good damage up to 20 meters and have a dramatic drop off after that and assault rifles have a very high TTK within that 20 m mark but not have any noticeable drop off after say 50 meters. Shotguns that under 10 m option honestly probably 5 m they should be devastating. Pistols I think they need to figure out how to make them a better option overall Not necessarily the akimbo or Fully Auto. Just pistols in general I think they should have great damage in that close to medium range. Honestly I think if you hit your shots you should have a slightly slower TTK than say an SMG with a pistol. Guns lake The Magnum and desert eagle should be two shot kills. From close and three to four from distance. Marksman rifles those are kind of a difficult one but I think they should have a great TTK from distance as well and an inverse relationship to TTK close up range.
If you want all guns to be usable you’re going to have to give them all the same damage equally across the board…. Or else we’re always going to have this cat and mouse game when it comes to buffing and nerfing weapons…. IDK have an idea how to fix this problem
Feels like mw2019 guns in wz1 all over again. As soon as the CW and then Vanguard guns came out, most of those guns were just unusable. Personally even though I’ve paid for stuff I’d like a fresh wipe for bo6. No skins or guns carry over. Fresh new restart. Otherwise the game will be a heap of uselessness.
Its all about the cash, They have to make the new guns meta, or no one would care to use them, or buy bundles. I personally only play multiplayer to rank up weapons, so if there were a bunch of guns floating around the top tier, i wouldnt waste my time, im sure im not alone on this
The other day, the superi sucked for me. My teammates were having the same problem. It's like they secretly nerfed it or something. We haven't played WZ since so not sure if it was a fluke or what.
They need to figure out what and how they want snipers and SMGs to be. LMGs are the long range sustained fire gun. ARs are the midrange guns and no they shouldn’t be competing with LMGs. Marksmenrifles aren’t bad I think their TTKs are good, But your aim has to be consistent. The issue comes to play with the final 3 classes. They are outright overcompensating for snipers and SMGs in this game…. Which throws all the other classes out of whack and it outright decimated the shotgun class. The fact that a shotgun is a double tap with SLUG rounds and round that could blow through a lead plate almost as thick as a PS5 is ridiculous. I’m almost willing to say aside from the Kar98k… everything is taking a hit just to keep the god awful SMG class alive.
It’s honestly kept me from playing the game. It’s boring using the same guns. The devs and suits just want bundles to be bought. Thats it. They’re killing the game for me. Servers are trash and I’m tired of that. It’s all just meh now.
The kar meta is one of the worst , the whole game became awful just because of 1 weapon , it's just like a guest that stayed too long and started to feel too comfortable at your house. F that it needs to go
In all honesty though they should make every single gun well balanced then there wouldn’t be a problem there wouldn’t be such thing called meta. Like make every gun reliable. I honestly get sick of hearing meta this meta that. I rather play with the gun of my choosing one I love the most being able to use it without these meta. Plain and simple “balance all the weapons equally and fair for gameplay”💯
To be honest, this is the already fifth installment of the game, and they are repeating all the same thing, you have one weapon which is op, it runs for few weeks and then it's nerfed then its other gun and so on, which to me show that they are incapable to do better or they just don't care. You always have 1 weapon which everybody runs and thats it, for example just see kar98k atm, everyone's using it, and you got potentials with guns like spx, lab and others. Even with assault riffles you got one and rest sit still until main gun is nerfed, other replaces its place and it goes in circle for 5 years almost.
The WARZONE META Changes as of late have revealed a trend that seems to be limiting the potential of a lot of weapons this year... Thanks for watching!
Thank you for what you do Immortal! Question: What’s a strong SMG you can recommend me for Warzone that’s not the: WSP-9, Superi, or Horus?
Need an update to lower body damage too
The reason they do that is to push people to buy the game cause lvling up guns in multi-player is easier and faster than lvling it in wz nd we all know all they care about is $$$
Lachman 556
Am I the only person that remembers that like 3 week period in wz1 after they buffed all the mw19 and cw guns where literally almost everything besides the dragonov was usable there was no defined meta ofc tho cod being cod they buffed something after a few weeks
I swear the devs always go for nerfing 1 2 top meta weapons instead of buffing the peashooters and hitmarkers 😢
Thanks for stating the obvious
@ValorantFTW_ It's obvious to us but not to the devs they are oblvious.
MW2 need recoil/firing visibilty buffs. No reason to keep the old guns in the game if they are unusable. I shouldnt NEED a conversion kit to make a gun usable
facts
Yeah, and those big barrel need major mobility buff, too. Just see how the Bruen Bridle Heavy barrel destroy the Tr76, one of the few competitive mw2 rifle.
They don't care if they are usable. In fact, they prefer it if they are not. They just want to be able to say that you have access to what you spent money on. Ask yourself how can Activision get the most money out of this situation and that's usually what they implement. " I spent my hard earned money on these guns. Can I still use them?". "Of course you can valued customer, you can use all the blueprints we sold you anytime your heart desires. Keep in mind, however, that if getting kills is your goal, you might want to purchase some newer blueprints that leverage the latest meta technologies :P. Thank you and good night".
@@bigjimstreamright on the money 😂
And that my friend is the biggest problem I have with the game
The meta was fine before they added the Kar. Now it’s just boring.
Guns come and go but before the Kar there was 1 gun in particular dominating, some were better sure but not like it is now where you go in a room and see 56 sniper glints and die from the same weapon every time.
Kar has completely changed the resurgance game mode, it’s gone from people running around to staying on top of buildings
No more truer words have been written down!
But there was always a major problem with snipers, also back in MW2, I miss viable snipers that can one shot headshot and where you can zoom in quickly and play competitive with it. It was soo boring for the longest time to stick to MPs and ARs and sometimes shotguns. Not having a decent sniper rifle is really showing that ppl would cry about it bc now the users are camping in buildings/on rooftops and just snipe everyone across the map. I understand tho that on rebirth it is actually a little bit silly as the map is not that big. The fact is that snipers should be as strong as the Kar98, everything else doesnt make sense. At least reduce the body/leg damage and make it one shot to the head from within unlimited range, everything else is stupid as this is not the purpose of a sniper
How else would they sell their infinite bundles with this week's buffed gun?
Bingo
The low BV on long range autos is so noticeable in this game, its one of the reasons the Kar is so dominant
Facts
Guns feeling like pea shooters takes me out of it a lot. It's like I could just go play airsoft if I wanted to but in a video game I want to use deadly weapons I would never play around with.
Hardcore?
@@jackchorley1836 I like hardcore, still like Warzone too but in MWIII I'm always trying different guns and attachments.
My biggest issue is that most nerfs and buffs come from the changes sledgehammer makes to the multiplayer and only a few things are adjusted for WZ only
This isn't even the truth. The guns have different stats for the most part.
@@cudderlover1216Wrong.
Also can we talk abt those two talking shit to each other in chat asking to 1 v 1 or to come to control 😭😭😭😭
game chat been hilarious lately
@@WhosImmortal especially in ur vids bro🤣🤣🤣🤣
My biggest complaint on PS5 with a really monitor is I cannot see dark enemies at all when I shoot with an iron sights. If I go watch a streamer on twitch, I see them just fine when they do it. Why can’t I?
Could be some monitor settings, elgato settings, etc for some of it fwiw
3:04 they need to fix that reload bug
Its super annoying, but best workaround (other than them actually fixing their game but lets be honest....) is once you see the ammo number reset just yy and it cancels the animation
I'm just confused on how ammo calibers don't have different damage. Also, unique or niche weapons should be more impactful if mastered. They rockets on the game and no one running bomb squad but you can't one shot unless it direct hits? I understand that this isn't the most realistic game but games like Halo and Gears basically put players against one another with the same guns, meaning skill separates them. On this, you have to have a meta gun. They basically force you to play with certain guns.
Remember when we have ONE weapon that could compete with the Kar past 40 meters? Then the devs decide it's "too dominant" and nerf it into the ground leading to one of the worst and most frustrating seasons in Warzone history (and I'm not even talking about the cheaters this season).
Rebirth is ruined now that everyone uses the Kar. It’s a joke.
Do you enjoy 2 shot snipers?
Exactly
Blame the masses who voiced so loudly for it to be in the game. It was the exact same in WZ1 I don't know how we forget so easily.
If the long range guns that hit hard were more accurate the kar would not be so dominant. The lmg and ar’s are a joke. As soon as the cry babies cry they get there way. It’s just sad. Wz1 had so much more variety and the kar was just as strong. Also the companies are just here to sell bundles. Facts
@@smokeyjo7957 Ya. And I don’t spent a penny on COD.
This is every PvP game ever. It's the industry standard at this point. Ubisoft did this to the game, 'The Division' making gear you may have litterally grinded for hours or even days for useless. Every game.
The whole idea of loadouts is one of the things that made Warzone so unique, and fun. Back when my friends actually played, it was fun to chat about what guns we were we each using that game. M4, Grau, Ram7, Amax and then the XM4 and CWAK and Krig, etcc......and all of them worked. They were each unique, but they all worked well enough for casual play. We could play for a few hours pulling different guns each game - that was FUN. Now it's like, meh...use whatever but these 2 guns are going to destroy you if you don't always use them. Why even have loadouts if 90% of them are the same guns. And this Kar meta now is terrible. The glints look like fireworks, alllll over the place....everyone has a Kar and they're camped up. And the AA on the KAR shots is wild, there is just no counter except stacking 8 smokes - or just grabbing your own KAR and hiding yourself.
At this point it’s easier to list guns that shoudlnt receive a buff than saying which gun does: superi, horus, kar, sva
This is a good point, buffing the other guns around the best stats atm is better than nerfing it. Bullet velocity and effective damage ranges are imo the stats that need an improvement at the very least in marksman and snipers.
They want to create that “top dog”. People will buy blueprints out of the store if there is that one dominant gun that everyone knows is the meta. They will change it and then sell more blueprints of that meta weapon. All about the sales and income.
Zach, I think this is tapping into some human behavioral dynamics :).
The vast majority of casual players like to play with the same guns especially if it took some time to level up those guns and they have built some muscle memory with recoil pattern and any other quirks. If the guns are "slightly nerfed" or if the guns are "reasonably close" to the new meta most casual players won't take the time or the money to change weapons.
So, in order to entice casuals to use different weapons, buy blueprints and other gun related bundles, they have to make the new guns dramatically better and their old guns dramatically worse. Not only that, if people have invested money in a blueprint, they want to use their cool guns so if these blueprints are "reasonably close" to the new meta they won't switch.
I think Activision's gun nerf and buff strategy solely hinges around DLC sales. Just like SBMM or EOMM, it's all about keeping you gaming more and spending more.
It's a cynical point of view but I believe all the decisions made by Activision are about prying every possible dollar from your fingers :).
yah their money grubbing POS
You're absolutely spot on. EVERYTHING is about money these days. Awful state of the world.
i would love to see explosive ammo be one shot for all snipers. but keep it with good velocity and give it a different con like ads time or something
A better idea would be to make all sniper rifles and a few of the marksman rifles one shot within their maximum damage range only. Then make it so explosive ammo would allow you to have an infinite one shot headshot range.
Changing the settings on a weapon is something a dev can do during their poop break. It’s simple; buff weapons that a team has been working on skins/store bundles for, let it go for a couple of weeks, nerf it and buff another gun the team has also made store bundles for. Money money money. That’s all this is. It isn’t about the game, it isn’t about the players, it isn’t about fun. MONEY. No amount of complaining will ever change it at this point. Now that the cash cow has been established, this will be our reality.
I get nervous honestly when we as a collective (your viewers) discuss the different loadouts provide for people to try, whether it's in BR or Resurgence, people start to use them and the Devs catch on to how effective they are, and in turn they receive a nerf. A good example of that is the JAK Signal Burst Holger 556, paired with the JAK Scimitar FJX Horus. Those two together are a deadly combination, and just the Scimitar on its own with the low recoil and high mobility, I already expect it'll be getting a nerf at some point. As for the Signal Burst, I don't know.
I agree!!! Because when you add one shot snipers or marksman's and there's no gun that can compete with it
Equipping the Kastov with the aftermarket part and an 8x scope is underrated
😂 mans beaming from narnia
@@mikethestoner gotta use that full auto sniper to your advantage somehow 🤣
In my opinion this is a huge reason the KAR has become so op. First, all of the other snipers are simply worse… idk how they managed that. But more importantly, the mid-long range rifle meta has become so slow that you just can’t compete with the fire rate of the KAR. We didn’t see this in wz1 because we had things like the amax which would kill you in as much time as it took to get your second shot off with the KAR
My main reason for leaving warzone is not being able to keep up with the meta. I don’t play for very long and when I do I have to go level the new gun. The gun will be locked and I just don’t have the grind time to unlock, level the gun, then actually have time to go play and use the gun in an actual match. Just a waste of time. Then the gun gets nerfed and I have to restart that process
I 100% agree with this and have been saying this forever. There's a few different guns that I love the feel of but they just don't stand up when someone has the current meta.
My attachments keep disappearing in rebirth on my horus is that bug fixed 😢
They do need to evaluate all weapons adjustments by looking at the overall weapon pool. Not just within the category. The Kar98 is the perfect example of this. People screaming for it to get nerfed but not thinking about the implications for the category. For instance before the Kar98 who used a marksman rifle? *crickets chirping*. There is no meta for the marksman outside of the Kar98. While there is always a meta option for SMGs, ARs, LMGs, BRs and snipers. Is the Kar98 outperforming snipers? Then there is a problem with the snipers.
I wish they would go back to the blackout weapons system, no weapon grinding for the "meta" attachments. You had 2 choices for barrels, extended or silenced, same with mags fast or extended.
As much as I would like it, I don't think it matters more than money. When something like the KAR comes along and is so strong and/or nostalgic, it drives some people to spend and buy whether it be a battle pass upgrade, a pack in the store, or just generally playing more (player engagement comes up on earnings calls) to get it right now. Being there are millions of players, if 1 in 100 buy a pack for $20 that's at least a gun that is 7-figure profit.
It can't be that hard to balance guns with algos that take recoil, movement, damage ranges, accuracy (aim sway/hip/tac/visual distortion), mag size/reload time into account (especially if you limit some of these attachments).
I do not think we will see a significant lifting up of MW2 guns where they are on par with MW3 guns because time is quickly passing and we will see BO6 drop. I also think as you have pointed out that if the MW2 guns are not cut out of the upcoming seasons of Warzone we will just be overwhelmed by too much of a selection...most of which will not be used anyway
Hey Zack, you hit the nail on its head! I stopped buying camos, blueprints, and the battle pass because of the reasons you mentioned in this video. In fact, I haven't spent a single penny on the game since Caldera. I also stopped doing camo grinds. When I did buy a "Pay to win" blueprint and they nerfed it made me feel like a chump or a sucker. I have often wondered if we buy a gun for certain specs and they nerf it, isn't that a bait and switch?? I mean it is like going to buy a new V8 Mustang bc of the horsepower and you drive it around for a few weeks. Then one day you open your garage and all of a sudden you have a V6. If you buy (pay cash!) for a blueprint it should not be nerfed. It is bad business and they will not get any more of my money
Man.. I've been saying this. I really want to use other weapons and have some sort of individuality but when I do build a class that should work. Doesn't because there's always a broken ttk meta. Give me the blackout days of finding a gun and picking up attachments and perks
That's what I have been saying for a long time! Buff not nerf that's how you diversify! All weapons should have closer times to kill, but have advantages and disadvantages depending on your game style. The MTZ 6.8 is an example of how you nerfed a whole category to the point of being useless, until the Kar-98 made a comeback.
This is exactly what I would like to see. All the nerfing has killed this game for me. I stopped playing and don’t have any desire to keep grinding new guns. I understand certain guns need to be nerfed as mentioned. But the constant tweaking is exhausting, and I don’t have the time to keep finding and grinding new guns. Trying a new style of play is fun. But working on your 5th AR, or 6th SMG - just dumb. You can’t get comfortable with a load out - knowing it will likely be nerfed and the feel will be destroyed.
I’ve been saying it for years. Make damage and recoil based on the caliber of the gun. 556 less damage but lower recoil when compared to a 308 that will do more damage but more recoil. I think they have made EVERYTHING way more difficult than anything. But no matter what a sniper should be a one shot drop. One 50 cal sniper isn’t magically less powerful than the other. Tired of only being able to use one true sniper. Think they dropped the ball and fell on their face with a lot of this.
It would be nice to see a game mode with higher health like, 500 or 600 most of that being regular health, not plates. Extra plates was a terrible idea, i think mostly because when you dont have plates youre at a bigger disadvantage and it plays super cheesy
Thank you for bringing more attention to this and more into the light! always appreciated Homie! SKO!
I haven't been a fan of any of the AR's this year...I've been using the SOA Subverter since it released--I love how it feels and it hits like a truck if you hit your shots.
Seems like every time we get a gun that's very good it always gets nerfed into the ground in a few weeks and then we're left with a dull meta until the next good DLC weapon comes out.
Watch them nerf the Kar98 hard next week and make it unusable instead of tweaking it a bit and making other mediocre weapons more viable.
The problem is they have wayyyyy to many options. A game like apex legends has stayed relevant for forever and rarely ever add a new weapon they just cycle the meta and meta attachments each season but on the same guns that have been out for forever. Even a game like halo that’s been relevant longer then pretty much any competitive game and it’s always had a very select few weapons to chose from
I’m having success with the MTZ 556/Bryson 890 combo. The Kar 98 is clear cut meta but this combo works and is a good way to close the gap on these stationary snipers
The simple fact of call of duty is that they had a perfect game in the first warzone in verdansk. Before they screwed it up with Cold War that no one wanted and vanguard. The map was solid , the movement was great and the guns were balanced. Then they tried to improve on a perfect game from a greed standpoint and screwed the entire game up and it has never recovered. Everyone in this community is just waiting for a better shooter to come out so we will never have to play this garbage again and they know that.
Couldn’t agree more. They had damn near the perfect formula and basically threw it out the window. They literally saw that they had millions of users, were on top of the world and decided nope, we need to change all of this
It has been going consistently downhill since the end of og wz1
@@Freddy_82 truth!!
Cold war was literally the peak of warzone lol
@@cudderlover1216 I respect your opinion my friend . My team and I just loved the og version better.
Great video (as always), and I love the idea of having 4 or 5 viable weapons (depending on the category) instead of 1 or 2. Whenever a new weapon is dropped, I always feel like I'm playing catchup to grind and rank it up for WZ. By the time it's ready, the meta has come and gone.
The AA on the Kar98 needs to happen but THAT IS IT. Buff other SMG's and AR's to counter the Kar so sniping stays healthy but has competition. Its ridiculous that when nerfs happen they nerf it too much and its irrelevant to use. Idk how they dont understand this by now. Weve all voiced it. You have so many videos on this. Surely they know. People would use so many different weapons if they do this properly
Cod tinker dept. always see nerfing as the "cure" and not the "treatment". They have never been able to balance guns. They never will.
That idea would help the game much more because no one's going to buy bundles for the game when a weapon's only gonna be meta or viable for around 2 weeks. No one's gonna spend point on it. But people would spend points on a weapon when it would be more competitive for a much longer period of time. Call of Duty would get more sales on weapon blueprints and bungles. And we would be happy because we would have weapons that were viable or meta for a much longer period of time. Win win...
I've been playing warzone only since MW3 dropped and I've been having lots of fun. I then discovered a website to look out for builds and stuff and the website also showed a certain percentage of the guns usage and when i started the top guns weren't even in the 3-4% people using them. Since they just decided to nerf the top dog instead of just buffing other guns, the top 5 guns on that website are all going from 5-10% of people using them, which make a really boring meta because it's pretty much always the same guns that we see on people ( right now, superi and kar98k obviously ). Would love the same as what you said and what many people are saying, just buff guns to bring them more in line toward maybe the meta weapon or close to so we can have more variety and a more diverse warzone experience!
Marksman Battlerifles and ARs just feel useless right now. And ehy the hell is the holger 26 quicker than the 556 lol. Its weird.
That would be awesome. So tired of using the same 2 or 3 guns all the time. Would be nice to be able to pick between a good amount
Every gun categorie should have the same ttk ur attachments should make the deference, u should pick ur attachments carefully according 2 ur play style, power ads or handling
Mental to think i used the hdr + kilo setup from day 1 wz1 till caldera, maybe even half way through that, i cant remember if available. But with this warzone ive had to change guns every season to keep up with the meta as the base guns feel like im shooting bubbles 😢
Updating the MW2 attatchment pool with better statistics more comparable to the MW3 attatchments
It's not rocket science. It's just money. You can't sell skins for guns if they aren't constantly churning the meta.
Just like now. We know a kar98 nerf is coming.
Instead of buffing the already faster Handling bolt action marksman rifles like the SAB-50 and the SPR-200 to make them as competitive as the kar98.
There is no healthy meta.
It’s on life support constantly.
The only weapon I seen honestly buffed to make a huge difference that’s stayed as such is the SVA with its very consistent damage output and the rival 9 with the conversion kit.
Every other gun does feel trash.
Hell the FR 5.56 could have had a headshot damage buff for its first 40 meter range. Get a useless rifle actually usable. Yet we don’t see that. They are too busy nerfing the decent weapons.
The Heavy Armor event was a failure only for those people running snipers (specifically the Kar). I enjoyed the heck out of it!
would be amazing to see gun play much like earlier titles where everyone had their specific guns they ran and they would still do damage to lobbies and it was cool seeing so many different guns all the time. i.e. now its all KAR98k, superi or fjx and thats it
Not only is this meta weak / stale but there’s no skill based gun either. The SOA was hard to use but worth it! Just like the Amax or Cold War ak. We need something for people who out in the work. New skill based weapons are dealing with 40 round mags vs recoil/skill
Totally agree. If you keep nerfing the best guns, over and over, we end up having only bad guns. Right now, long range gun play (AR/LMG) feels kind of sad. They need to change their balancing strat..
Im enjoying the superi and kar before they get nerfed . also sucks that the meta changes so much that getting prestige camo on a off meta gun seems pointless . i have small pool of obsidian guns i hope the new meta shifts to those when the new prestige camo drops . fingers crossed for damascus but will most likely be diamond prestige
I’m still bitter about the SOA nerf. I loved that BR and it was in a good spot.
This is why I'll never buy a gun skin in the store. What's the point of buying a skin for my favorite gun if it'll be nerfed out of existence.
Yeeep
100% agree with buffing more guns than nerfing the best to the ground. keeping a handful of guns top tier is the way to go. Example being the DG and the Holger 26, before the DG became META they were neck and neck and you had the freedom to use either gun and you wouldnt be punished in game for using one over the other. Only after they buffed the DG was the Holger not considered.
Hands down, I’ve been waiting for a video like this. This WHOLE VIDEO is ACCURATE to the T.
Aside from some adjustment mishaps I think it's clearly intentional that they try and make the new guns and obtainable attachments better than the previous ones to keep player retention better and promote the battle pass, keep players engaged etc. Grind to unlock the next best thing and play a lot before it's nerfed. There is strong financial incentives to do so. The downside is lack of variety, it's easier to just nerf the top dog at some point instead of buffing everything else I doubt they will change this but it's good that you're raising the issue.
I'm kinda mixed on this
On the upside it keeps everyone changing their guns and play style which is nice and keeps things interesting and adds variety for a while
On the downside it really keeps things unfair for casuals and who don't play as often as you don't have access to the best things right away and have to constantly keep up with the next best thing.
I would like it if CoD introduced training concepts like Rocket League has. I could improve on shooting an enemy sliding into me. I tend to aim left to right, right to left and it’s like a desperation to hit bullets but not stopping when I’ve centered over the player. It pays off some but I would like it if they introduced training kit packages or something like that. I would always like to improve.
Since I've been playing this game this is the way they've done it. Devs saying they want to change that is laughable. If they wanted to they would have.
Completely agree. Battle rifles and marksman rifles are basically useless because of all the nerfs.
Idk man..I feel they on to something.smg should always beat anything up to 12-15m...AR should beat everything between 15-45m...LMGs should only hit hard 40m+...snipers should not be as crazy as the kar98,but not to slow either.and oc headshott kill.
I honestly hate how there’s always a TH-camr saying there’s meta updates new patch notes but if log in warzone and check patch notes there’s not one since January-February even on the call of duty website 😂😂😂😂yall really be finnessing online
you're looking in the wrong places cuz theres meta updates and weapon changes every 3-4 weeks minimum on the call of duty website my dude
There is just too many guns attachments camos etc. the prestige camos are the best reward that they have come up with. I’m cool with letting go of all the stuff . The grind is getting old . They need new type of rewards that are enticing. I do think that you should get something in the new title for letting go of all your grindables. Like a trading system .
Also let's be real The devs aren't getting their wish by nerfing and changing weapons they're getting their wish by selling more bundles
Yup, we definitely need this mentality towards future updates.
Honestly I think when they added the extra plate they were going in the right direction because guns were slightly OP.
Where I think they need to make adjustments are with assault rifles having better damage at long range and actually worse damage at short range. Now I don't mean that necessarily the TTK will be slower, let's see for example you give the subverter a TTK of 750 from its furthest distance maybe give it 700 from its shortest. I think ultimately an SMG should have a huge advantage up close compared to an assault rifle. With that happening and makes players better choose their weapons. It also makes it so assault rifles can actually compete with a sniper rifle. With the BP 50 I can beam people with that gun and still it feels like a peashooter or you're shooting marshmallows.
Another option or something they could do is like they did in warzone 1. The better guns are tougher to control but they slap if you hit with them. Obviously warzone 1 guns were easier to control than warzone 2, but I think there's plenty of ways they can balance out the guns. Maybe high risk high reward type situation.
Overall I think they need to adjust the weapons properly for an SMG to have good damage up to 20 meters and have a dramatic drop off after that and assault rifles have a very high TTK within that 20 m mark but not have any noticeable drop off after say 50 meters. Shotguns that under 10 m option honestly probably 5 m they should be devastating. Pistols I think they need to figure out how to make them a better option overall Not necessarily the akimbo or Fully Auto. Just pistols in general I think they should have great damage in that close to medium range. Honestly I think if you hit your shots you should have a slightly slower TTK than say an SMG with a pistol. Guns lake The Magnum and desert eagle should be two shot kills. From close and three to four from distance. Marksman rifles those are kind of a difficult one but I think they should have a great TTK from distance as well and an inverse relationship to TTK close up range.
Wz1 they said our bundles would always carry over and be available….remind me how that turned out
Problem will always be. What top performing players use , will be the gun that’s used by the majority of the player base
Which wouldn’t be nearly as narrow if there was more than 1-2 guns available at the top of the meta at a time tbh
If you want all guns to be usable you’re going to have to give them all the same damage equally across the board…. Or else we’re always going to have this cat and mouse game when it comes to buffing and nerfing weapons…. IDK have an idea how to fix this problem
Feels like mw2019 guns in wz1 all over again. As soon as the CW and then Vanguard guns came out, most of those guns were just unusable. Personally even though I’ve paid for stuff I’d like a fresh wipe for bo6. No skins or guns carry over. Fresh new restart. Otherwise the game will be a heap of uselessness.
Its all about the cash, They have to make the new guns meta, or no one would care to use them, or buy bundles. I personally only play multiplayer to rank up weapons, so if there were a bunch of guns floating around the top tier, i wouldnt waste my time, im sure im not alone on this
Weapons are inconsistent tbh one day the bp50 is dominating then the next day I can’t even knock ppl
It goes for all weapons
The other day, the superi sucked for me. My teammates were having the same problem. It's like they secretly nerfed it or something. We haven't played WZ since so not sure if it was a fluke or what.
@@DGRIFF also like my ms goes up to 123 and I lagged when I try to kill or get near certain players
@austinmcginley8212 yes. My game runs fine until a gunfight and then it stutters. Xbox Series X here.
That's the AI controlled game play to keep you on as long as possible
I agree they need to buff more useless weapons and nerf less...
They need to figure out what and how they want snipers and SMGs to be.
LMGs are the long range sustained fire gun.
ARs are the midrange guns and no they shouldn’t be competing with LMGs.
Marksmenrifles aren’t bad I think their TTKs are good, But your aim has to be consistent.
The issue comes to play with the final 3 classes. They are outright overcompensating for snipers and SMGs in this game…. Which throws all the other classes out of whack and it outright decimated the shotgun class. The fact that a shotgun is a double tap with SLUG rounds and round that could blow through a lead plate almost as thick as a PS5 is ridiculous.
I’m almost willing to say aside from the Kar98k… everything is taking a hit just to keep the god awful SMG class alive.
So maybe not hitting the OP guns with a big nerf, but adjusting the TTK.
It’s honestly kept me from playing the game. It’s boring using the same guns. The devs and suits just want bundles to be bought. Thats it. They’re killing the game for me. Servers are trash and I’m tired of that. It’s all just meh now.
The kar meta is one of the worst , the whole game became awful just because of 1 weapon , it's just like a guest that stayed too long and started to feel too comfortable at your house. F that it needs to go
When are they gona fix the find a party search party…. Still broken…. Ridiculous
Thank you! Would love it if more people and content creators asked for buffs instead of kar nerfs lol
all im gonna say is we have 100+ guns in the game and i only see 2 guns on all my lobbies
Imagine if they never nerfed the HRM or the striker 9. The smg meta woulda been so balanced
Compare to guns like grau, m4a1, kilo, pkm etc night and day
Yeah, the Meta problem is the Kar98k and them always nerfing all of the good guns looking for balance.
Your so right i don’t even know what ar to use it’s a smg game
In all honesty though they should make every single gun well balanced then there wouldn’t be a problem there wouldn’t be such thing called meta. Like make every gun reliable. I honestly get sick of hearing meta this meta that. I rather play with the gun of my choosing one I love the most being able to use it without these meta. Plain and simple “balance all the weapons equally and fair for gameplay”💯
2:18 in the tents is pretty freaking sus if you ask me 🤷🏾😂😂😂
Minimap, teammate comms, in-game audio.....
Idk if I'm just blind or just stupid, but what is that muzzle people always put on their smgs called again?
zehm
@@WhosImmortal ty bro
To be honest, this is the already fifth installment of the game, and they are repeating all the same thing, you have one weapon which is op, it runs for few weeks and then it's nerfed then its other gun and so on, which to me show that they are incapable to do better or they just don't care. You always have 1 weapon which everybody runs and thats it, for example just see kar98k atm, everyone's using it, and you got potentials with guns like spx, lab and others. Even with assault riffles you got one and rest sit still until main gun is nerfed, other replaces its place and it goes in circle for 5 years almost.
800ms is to slow for long range when you have 1 shot snipers not saying it shouldn't but at least make the other hit harder bc everything sucks rn
they really should test guns before it comes out imo because I can really only use a variety of weapons on mp because they aren’t great on warzone