Maria's "Anyway!?!?" in the original is so frickin intense. Its like she is a real person who doesn't get angry often. The new one sounds like a voice actor being angry.
It was (and is) perfection. She was pissed, and her voice actress just completely sold it. But that's what you get when you have good voice directing, and the people who claim the original voice acting is "bad" need to get their ears checked. SH2's original voice acting was very understated, they sounded like human beings without sounding like they were reading off a script. You can just TELL when a voice actor is trying too hard (just like you can when an actor is trying to hard, they don't look convincing enough to sell their performance). Maria's "Anyway?" in the HD version literally made me laugh, one cuz' she sounds slow and drunk, and two, she's trying too hard. The difference in quality is so shocking. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which of the two is the most superior. This is why I ALWAYS use the original voice option.
@@blipflipped6680 Absolutely. I like Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as a singer, but as voice acting she really sucks, because she should've done a decent work after having the nerve to make fun of Donna Burke (Angela/Claudia) performance.
@@alextownsend3289 Just further proof that you could be great at one thing, and terrible at another (you could be a great show writer, that doesn't mean you'll be a great show RUNNER). Elizabeth's a goddess with the vocals, but she had no right to claim Donna wasn't suited for the role (spoiler alert, she was, she was perfection, Angela's got some of the most emotional voice acting in this game). Team Silent knew what they were doing, they weren't idiots who thought to cast people who didn't know what they were doing. They wanted voice talent that wasn't dramatic or "theatrical" like Troy Baker, they wanted voice talent that was "subtle but real". Every character got me invested in them, whether it's James, Mary, Eddie, or Maria, so they did something RIGHT. Wouldn't change a thing.
Not really uncanny crazy, as much as real people with real emotional damage. The voice acting wasn't recorded all "weird", it was recorded as real people. The new voice acting lacks the synergy between the models and emotions of the scene and situation. It SOUNDS like acting.
@@kalelvigil1510 absolutely, this mostly comes down to not just the unique style of recording which was done with a more roomy area to match the actors intensive live theatre experience and give a more realistic soundscape, but the actors themselves not having a specific voiceover mindset. They didn’t have the goal of doing a job right according to a director, they were doing what you do in theatre: truly embodying and delivering on a character.
@@Skippy908 exactly, the anime voices have their place but with more realistic soundscapes sometimes it’s good to branch out, especially since usually theatre experience often leads to voiceover anyway so this is actually super commonplace
Original James is so good tbh, I can't imagine him with any other voice. His voice was unsure, unstable, dazed, but sometimes got deep and threatening and kinda spooky, you really got the feeling the dude's sanity hanging by a thread. Honestly I don't get the idea that theatrical acting makes more realistic characters, have you actually heard people talk irl? they don't really... talk like actors.
@@phoenixrich5542 There is nothing to change. You just select the voice you want. But in Silent Hill 3 you stucked with the new voices. Nothing you can do about that.
Why does he have to sound sweet in the first place at all? The original is way too lighthearted all the way and it's lacking the emotional baggage that the character has to have.
The Troll Killer he’s not a fool for thinking that. But yeah, James is sweet because he tries to suppress and forget all this shit. He has more consistent character that way. In new edition I hear Troy Baker. And he sounds like a chad. And James in no way that masculine.
@@G4M3RGU1D3 smothers* and i dont care what Troy says. Troy is not a fan of Silent Hill. He probably looked at the character model of James and thought "Oooh Jocky". and affixed his voice to do so not that anyone cares but just some insight.
In my restless dreams, I hears this man... Guy Cihi... You promised to Voice James again, but you never did... Well, my ears bleeding now, cause of Troy's special voice.
eccentricky Not his fault though. It's konami's. Something happend between cihi and konami. If you look up 'the making of silent hill 2" they censored guy cihi's face. Probably something to do with money? Even S.H. 3 heather (heather morris) didn't show up for redubbing heather mason.
Danny Mcneil true. Good thing I can still play it in my old ps2. Some of the "new" fans even say the new voices sounds better cause the old ones weren't as good as acting today. I mean this game came out in 2001 so no high expectations there but the acting did fine cause the actors were hired for a reason. But hey at least we don't have James batman on our silent Hill 2.
"You don't sound very happy to see me ..." Yeah and she doesn't sound like she had just been nearly killed. The original Maria sounds in legit fear for her life in that scene. The HD version Maria sounds like James left her on hold for too long or some trivial shit like that.
Samhain "Anyway? What do you mean anyway?!" I was expecting the same tone but hd sounds awful. At least there was some sort of connection with past actors and their characters
Holy crap, when I saw the HD version of this scene, I busted out laughing! Maria sounds like she's talking with spit in her mouth, it just completely saps any seriousness the original scene conveyed. This is largely the reason why I _never_ turned on the new voices. They don't fit the characters, they sound either too polished or downright shitty like that Maria scene, and they sound too dramatic, whereas in the original, they all sounded tired, disjointed, and spaced out (which _completely_ fits given the tone, and in general, what they're going through). Very happy they gave you an option on turning it on or off, but Silent Hill 2 (and 3 as well) should never be "touched up" again, they're already perfect.
The original voice acting is better, there is something about it that feels more raw and emotional compared to the redub. Original Maria voice feels angrier than the redub one
@@Rilumai well, i partially agree with the Guy, James voice is... Eh... Amateur at best and "im lost in this wallmart, could you help me?" At worst, But Mary, Maria and the Little Girl voices seem much better in the OG, The Lady on the cemetery is stuck on a Limbo of Meh in Both versions
Althought I think Troy Baker fits aesthetically the character of James, the older VA fits narrativelly, he gives such an innocent tone to James's voice that helps the plot to be even more unexpected and shocking
So weird in that I finally finished Last of Us today and for years my gut was telling me there’s some kind of link between this & SH2.. I have the ps2 original however.. I may have to look into playing this ps3 version one day though for obvious reasons
Maria’s original voice is so fitting, and they way she screams ‘anyway’ gets me everytime! That voice actor did a great job, the remastered are so half arsed, it’s terrible.
The original voices are both surreal and intimate. They feel like real people because their speech doesn't feel so calculated and rehearsed. Troy Baker as James just feels so wrong, his voice sounds far too reassured.
You can hear that really clearly in the scene between James and Angela in the graveyard. You can almost picture Troy reading "Ok, alright, I'll be careful" *James says incredulously* or something like that. It's too professional. The original James is awkward, like he doesn't know how to express himself properly. Those human elements are what made you care about him.
Troy Baker voice acts hard, tough characters well. However, James Sunderland isn't hard and tough. He's an everyday man who's mental state is utterly falling apart. And Troy falls flat when trying to convey emotion. Was a bad choice in voice actors. Mind you, the entire remaster was bad in general.
WalkmanSilver I love Troy Bakers performances for the most part. He is probably one of the most influential voice actors today but him as James Sunderland just doesn’t feel right at all.
@@dandydante7924 The thing is that Troy can voice emotional characters when they are serious and roughed up as people. However James is not even a guy who normally uses weapons. The original dub captures the feeling of James basically being scared and confused of everything. HD James sounds like he has already been through it
The new Dub isn't bad, the problem lies with the fact that they tried to give an old Game the feeling of a newer Horror Game; it doesn't fit the mood nor the setting nor the Characters. They tried to give the Characters outstanding personalities when they weren't supposed to stand out. James was supposed to be a normal man in search of his wife while the HD version tried to make him sound like your roughed up Resident Evil Protagonist. Same with all the other Characters, the performance wasn't bad it just doesn't fit well.
I've just played silent hill 2 for the first time, so I'm not nostalgic about this game. The original dub was okey, I mean, videogames dubs weren't really so good back then either. I think the characters are better portrayed than in the new dub, but sometimes some line deliverings are just odd. The new dub is made with better actors, but I think the result ended up being more generic after all. I suppose that, as an actor, you don't put the same amount of effort and involvement in all your projects, and certainly not for a re-dub of a game that was getting a lot of hate even before anyone could hear the result.
The HD version’s first interaction between James and Angela missed the point of his character. He doesn’t have anything to live for except for his wife. Finding her is his whole motivation. So he doesn’t really care if it’s dangerous. He interrupts her because he’s in a hurry to find Mary. But the new voice makes him seem actually afraid when he asks if it’s dangerous, and almost cocky and self-assured when he basically laughs off her explanations.
Tbh the new actors aren't bad...it's just that you can't replicate the strange quality of these normal everyday voices in the original, it makes it feel more real. Some of the deliveries in the original arent even that great, but its that odd sensation that makes it feel so real, like these people are really losing their minds
I disagree. It's a grown woman pretending to be a little girl. Also, the original communicated her headstrong personality as well as her low opinion of and circumstantial relationship with James through her voice, and the new one just sounds like generic little girl, with everything smoothed over. She sounds like she *likes* James, which isn't true to the story.
1:05 unrelated, this is the first time i noticed Team Silent broke the 180 rule of cinematography. kinda a neat trick to make the player feel like something is not right about Maria than just being a look alike to his dead wife
@@mainikez019 the 180 rule is an imaginary line the camera cannot cross when doing the dialogue shot-reverse-shot set up. when followed correctly, one person will be on the left side of the screen the other on the right. it does two effects to the viewer's minds eye that would be perceived as natural: - the remainder projection of the character after a cut stays in the mind for a moment so it looks like the characters are maintaining eye contact as they talk - it keeps the staging of the world familiar on par with how backgrounds in theatre look. adhering to this rule is a casual and comfortable feeling for the audience so they flow along with the dialogue secure in the scene breaking the rule snaps you out of the lull you might have been in because the environment behind the actors keep changing and it doesn't look like they're talking to each other even though you know they are this rule works similarly if say two characters are speaking through telepathy or astral projection: following the 180 can trick people into the dialogue as if they are in the same place, while breaking it reminds the audience they are not in the same place
While there were some times when the original voice acting was laughably bad (“How can you just sit there… and eat pizza?!”), for the most part I feel that it perfectly conveys the characters as they were intended to be, especially James. In the original, it’s very believable that James is this reserved, shattered man who is grief stricken by the tragedy of his wife. In the HD version, you really don’t get that feeling since the VA’s performance and James’ personality directly contradict each other.
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn was flattered that people loved her voice, but she was reluctant to do voice-acting as she herself told that she didn't feel like her voice suits Maria
The original voice acting was clearly inspired by David Lynch's method of directing actors. It's unsettling, slightly uncanny, easily passes off as "bad acting" but accomplishes it's goal. The new VO tries to be naturalistic but sticks out in contrast to the source material's timing, camerawork and animations.
Another advantage the original has is that the actors actually performed their lines. The cast essentially acted on 'stage' and their performances were put in the game through motion-capture. The new cast sat in a booth and dubbed over someone else' performance, so it comes across as less genuine. Troy Baker, for instance, is leaps and bounds a better actor than Guy Cihi, who doesn't even act for a living. But Baker is dubbing over someone else' performance and so it loses a lot of power. Baker is a better actor, but Cihi had a lot more passion for this performance.
I love original James, he sounds weak all the time and strong when he needs to. Like Huey from mgs. A weak hearted strong type character. Troy just changes it too much. He sounds like a real mature adult compared to old james
Angela's new voice actress is the only one that is not bad, but she sounds too young. Especially when you know that the original intention was to give angela a voice more mature than her actual age.
Troy and Laura are two of my favorite voice actors, but... they shouldn't have redone the voices. The uncanny delivery of the original VAs is so much more effective
I've never played these games before but the old voices sound so much more natural? They're a little corny but they have a charm and feel to them that the new voices don't really capture. Especially the scene with Maria yelling at James. She sounded so genuinely angry in the original version.
no Eddie? I was pretty curious about that one. Mary/Maria sounds way better in the original, i think she's the only voice actor of the bunch that actually delivered her lines well but the bad delivery did leave us with that delicious feeling that everybody was dreaming, and lost in their own world's. og va all the way for me
Eddie's new voice is probably the worst of the bunch. HD Collection Eddie just sounds 2edgy4me whereas his original legitimately sounded like he was going mad. th-cam.com/video/7GKtsHcJOMI/w-d-xo.html
@A Frustrated Gamer the original voices are pure art, no other game delivered such unique direction and emotions. the HD voices are pure garbage, actors straight taken from anime dub.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den except that's exactly the issue. The new voices sound too professional and rehearses. The old characters act awkward and weird because they are broken people who are barely holding themselves together. Sounding more professional isn't a good thing when that clashes with the tone the story is going for. Troy Baker just fails to capture how dead inside James is. The original actor only sounds wooden in particular scenes because he doesn't really care what's going on around him because looking for Mary is the only thing he has to live for. Look at his performance during the scene where the 2 pyramid heads kill maria, all of that wooden and awkward tone is gone. Angela from the original sounds like someone who is genuinely terrified at all times and is constantly on edge. You get a much better sense of how broken she's become from the years of abuse she faces.
The voice actress for Mary/Maria (Monica Taylor Hogan) worked as a professional VA in Japan. She's now retired but gave an interview years ago about how she was thinking about her mother in the hospital when she was reading the letter at the end of the game. Apparently she was so emotional she broke down in the studio after reading it. So the emotion when she read that letter was real.
So basically, the redub sounds like really good professional acting, while the original sounds like they aren't acting at all, but are instead real people.
The way Angela insists on "it's not just the ffffog either" in the original is just more fitting and that's how it is overall. I don't know how to tell but it doesn't feel like acting much compared to the redub, it literally sounds authentic, not what we could call "professional". They talk like we do in real life basically and i think that's what made it particularly echoey with us players. New dub isn't bad in essence but it lacks what made these characters looking like any other person next door and feels more like actors are saying their lines instead of telling what they want to share/express on the moment. Also the sound mix is different, more dreamy in original (or maybe it's cause of the sources used here).
Honestly... I like it. Sure people say the awkwardness is intentional but it still turns some people off it even bothers me sometimes. But I do like Mary's screaming in the original better.
You miss the point they're supposed to sound as they were... Team silent chose them for a reason. The newer ones sound like anime characters or something out of resident evil not a surreal experience and the emotional state of character.
0:42 "I'm Sakura Haruno! What I like uh...I mean the person I like is, uh...my hobby is...my dream for the future is! Mm, mm, mm! And I hate...NARUTO!" The HD Collection voice actress for Angela also plays Sakura Haruno. She sounds more like Shippuden Sakura, but I can still hear it and can't unhear it. Original > HD.
Even before starting a new game I instantly picked the og voices because I knew before hand that the voice lines had been re-recorded and that they lost the charm the originals had. The feeling of lostiness and confusion the characters once had were gone. The new voices portray a James on a mission to find his wife with almost steadfast resolve. Og James was a man that was innocent with a dark secret that even he forget about with good reason.
What people forget about the characters and the way they talk is that they are not normal people and not sane in the head, the way they talk is an indicator of how they are messed up mentally and will always speak and think awkwardly That's the main reason why most people like the original voices more than the HD version and I'm one of them
the current dubbing is superior in almost all factors, you are being homesick. in addition to the infinitely better acting, he becomes imposing in the moments that it was lacking, while still showing himself to be sympathetic.
@@pmaughmerIdk Maria’s va did a hell of a job in the first one. Troy baker sounds way to confident and masculine as James which we know to not be true about his character. The rest are rather solid
The OG voices are so perfectly awkward and dreamlike. I think the cinematic voice will suit the remake but not the OG game. The original VA reading Mary's letter is so perfect.
Watching the voice acting in the HD remix out of courisouly for the first time, Troy Baker makes James sounds like he's a stoner who really doesn't give a fuck on why he's even there. Whereas Guy Cihi acting makes James sound he's genuinely both sad and confused from his situation and what he's really doing.
Not gonna lie, the new voice actors are professionals, and its REALLY good. Troy Baker as James was a hell of a choice, and so does Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn(especially because it hints that I Want Love and Waiting For You is actually Maria singing in Heaven's Night). BUT, The original is a classic and we all know that the awkward and ''bad'' voice acting are on purpose, to give a feeling that something IS wrong with these characters and the way they behave.
From a critical and objectve production point of view: the HD voices is superior. It's just these nostalgic fanatics too afraid to recognize and admit bad acting and recording quality. Bias and denial deluxe
I do not think so. It is about the character development. For me I prefer Mary in the hd collection. She sounded helpless when and you will pity her. The OG Mary/Maria has some annoying tendencies. You will also appreciate her in Born from a wish while she talks to ernest. She sounded really sincere. James on the other hand does not fit Troy Baker's. He sounded to firm and assuring. James sunderland is a guy that is in not right state of mind and questionable sanity. The former James who sounded naive, lost, confused, dumb actually fits the character more.
you might prefer it, but if you can't understand why people prefer the original other than 'nostalgia' then you're as ignorant as you claim them to be.
the updated voices sound like professional actors doing their job for a tv show or movie, except this isn't supposed to be "Silent hill, the Horror movie type game" that's what resident evil is for... silent hill is supposed to be surreal and unnerving and uncomfortable, and honestly the budget voice actors who sound like REAL people, uncomfortable and unsure about what they're doing just adds to that. Except James, he got a bad wrap in both versions, you either get quite and meek, or gruff and out of place.
Larua Bailey and Troy Baker are amazing voice actors but no one can do the original voice work for Silent Hill 2 justice, it simply can't be topped due to the tone that the game is trying to pull off. I can tell it was a good effort though, I bet they were honored to work on the project.
The issue is that TS studied psychology on many things, such as the fear of the unknown, body language and how people, with issues, emote, and the new voices just use typical animation voice acting that emote just emotion, in a very acted manner, too, not anxiety, being fixated on a delusion, problem or dilemma, being disinterested in all but one's fantasy, etc., or that certain realistic, casual drop in the ability to emote, acting as if it's realistic for them to emote, always, with such power, with the issues they have. It makes them a cartoon rather a real person. Team Silent explore these many things, via different characters, but, now, James hardly sounds like a person with problems, via the way he begins to emote. Originally, his normal voice just sounds unacted, about 99٪ of the time. Now, it's the clean opposite, sounding like a rock star band singer trying to use his singing voice in his voice acting. It's not about mediocrity, but spirit and character, and atmosphere. And, last, the emotions are based on giving it their best performance, like forcing it, almost, rather what the dialog, scene and character reactions & personalities call for.
Some of this acting is genuinely bad sometimes lmao. Maria's "anyway" in the HD collection sounds like she's trying to scream but her parents are asleep in the next room and she doesn't wanna wake them up or sum. James' new voice goes from his softer, nervous sounding voice in the original. To some generic deep voiced cool guy who is always calm and collected
@@DontJinxItYet you got me. im actually a ledditor *tips fedora* with a vendetta against the /v/ chads that bullied me in school so i made up that slander to make them look bad.
I just started the game for the first time ever a moments ago, chose to play with new voices but I was wondering about the originals, I’m gonna restart with the original voices!
The original voice of Maria in this scene is better than the new voice actress. The original she screamed at James for leaving her, and she had every right to scream at him. But the new voice is not the emotion that a woman would give a man, that was left her to die.
No disrespect to Troy. He's a pro. Big fan. But even though he brings a lot more naturalism and texture to James' voice, the original is still... better suited? Like the stilted, shaky quality of the original VA makes James sound like he's constantly terrified, both of the world around him and of letting someone glimpse his inner turmoil. He sounds like someone trying to put up a guard against this scenario and failing When new James told Angela "okay, I got it" he sounded dismissive/capable. Old James says it and I hear foolhardy at best, and dangerously close to madness already.
See I thought the voice acting was crap when I first started the original, so I looked up the newer dub to see if it's really worse and yeah, it's worse, in the og dub the lines don't usually sound natural like in newer games and movies, but at least they put some emotion into it
I understand what some people are saying. Although the original sounded bad and seems like the voice acting is bad at first, it actually gives the characters more like and character than the HD version could ever dream of. A few of the characters are going through mental problems. And then there's obviously Maria and how scared she sounded. The original does have a better fit in my opinion, and even if the HD version TRIED to make the voice acting better, even in terms of good voice acting, it didn't improve much. And sure, good voice acting does strive to make the characters sound more like people, and more alive. And yes we don't talk like actors ALL the time or characters from anime, but there are people who do in real life, and people who talk with a lot of emotion, and character in them. Which is what voice acting or acting strives for, to bring out realism. But some people have argued that like James and the other characters in this game, some people in real life don't talk like that. I myself don't sound like voice actors sound. My voice has little emotion or character in it, although some is present. So is see why people would say that. It really comes down to whether you prefer emotion, or no emotion. Although in this case, in this game, it's no emotion. Because it fits the characters better. And this game is way better compared to other examples of "Bad" voice acting. Like the Dr. Wily thing, like Zelda CDI, and other games with bad voice acting.
The redub was done with the classical "clean" sound and acting in mind and it feels a little rushed or not as time-invested. The original was improvised and rehearsed and re-drafted to death until the had the perfect delivery that expresses that particular character (so no arguing about how awkward Angela originally sounded, she was meant to sound awkward and a bit unhinged).
The thing is James was so nice to hold everything back and it’s not like the player knew that till later or even knew James murdered his wife again till later
Felipe Segura that's actually the point cause we need to here him sounding like weakling. I mean this guy obviously never gotten into a fight before. Plus the original V.A. make you think james sounds so innocent but in the new one is just no.
HD James is missing 100% of the inflection and emotion. Angela kind of has the same problem but at least I don't want to punch her in the face. I wish we'd gotten more of her and Eddie in this though.
Maria's "Anyway!?!?" in the original is so frickin intense. Its like she is a real person who doesn't get angry often. The new one sounds like a voice actor being angry.
The original voice actor was yelling, unlike the newer actor, she was raising her voice.
@@melyrodrigue1401 yeah I do prefere the original voice from Maria
It was (and is) perfection. She was pissed, and her voice actress just completely sold it. But that's what you get when you have good voice directing, and the people who claim the original voice acting is "bad" need to get their ears checked. SH2's original voice acting was very understated, they sounded like human beings without sounding like they were reading off a script. You can just TELL when a voice actor is trying too hard (just like you can when an actor is trying to hard, they don't look convincing enough to sell their performance).
Maria's "Anyway?" in the HD version literally made me laugh, one cuz' she sounds slow and drunk, and two, she's trying too hard. The difference in quality is so shocking. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to see which of the two is the most superior. This is why I ALWAYS use the original voice option.
@@blipflipped6680 Absolutely. I like Mary Elizabeth McGlynn as a singer, but as voice acting she really sucks, because she should've done a decent work after having the nerve to make fun of Donna Burke (Angela/Claudia) performance.
@@alextownsend3289 Just further proof that you could be great at one thing, and terrible at another (you could be a great show writer, that doesn't mean you'll be a great show RUNNER). Elizabeth's a goddess with the vocals, but she had no right to claim Donna wasn't suited for the role (spoiler alert, she was, she was perfection, Angela's got some of the most emotional voice acting in this game).
Team Silent knew what they were doing, they weren't idiots who thought to cast people who didn't know what they were doing. They wanted voice talent that wasn't dramatic or "theatrical" like Troy Baker, they wanted voice talent that was "subtle but real". Every character got me invested in them, whether it's James, Mary, Eddie, or Maria, so they did something RIGHT. Wouldn't change a thing.
The HD versions lack that sense of uncanny crazy that the original actors did so well.
Not really uncanny crazy, as much as real people with real emotional damage. The voice acting wasn't recorded all "weird", it was recorded as real people. The new voice acting lacks the synergy between the models and emotions of the scene and situation. It SOUNDS like acting.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den Eh, OG Resident Evil's voice acting was bad because it was bad.
I am glad they gave the choices between the old voices or the new voices
@@kalelvigil1510 absolutely, this mostly comes down to not just the unique style of recording which was done with a more roomy area to match the actors intensive live theatre experience and give a more realistic soundscape, but the actors themselves not having a specific voiceover mindset. They didn’t have the goal of doing a job right according to a director, they were doing what you do in theatre: truly embodying and delivering on a character.
@@Skippy908 exactly, the anime voices have their place but with more realistic soundscapes sometimes it’s good to branch out, especially since usually theatre experience often leads to voiceover anyway so this is actually super commonplace
"And it's not just the fog."
Me: ......What fog?
Crok425 right XD
lmao
Yeah, looks more like a cloudy day or like it is going to rain pretty heavy soon, than a fog.
True 😂
@@DatCameraMON exactly!
Original James is so good tbh, I can't imagine him with any other voice. His voice was unsure, unstable, dazed, but sometimes got deep and threatening and kinda spooky, you really got the feeling the dude's sanity hanging by a thread. Honestly I don't get the idea that theatrical acting makes more realistic characters, have you actually heard people talk irl? they don't really... talk like actors.
Art imitates life. That goes for (properly cast) actors as well.
How do you change it back to the original version
@@phoenixrich5542 There is nothing to change. You just select the voice you want. But in Silent Hill 3 you stucked with the new voices. Nothing you can do about that.
well, I think in remaster we don't got Guy Cihi voice anymore...
@@54int5 That's a mistake in my opinion. I don't think anyone can do it better.
The original maria did it so damn well
She was the best voice actress of the whole cast. 🥰
James kinda loose his sweetness with this new voice.
Why does he have to sound sweet in the first place at all? The original is way too lighthearted all the way and it's lacking the emotional baggage that the character has to have.
@@jcp1984again Wow, no offense but you're a complete fool.
The Troll Killer he’s not a fool for thinking that.
But yeah, James is sweet because he tries to suppress and forget all this shit. He has more consistent character that way.
In new edition I hear Troy Baker. And he sounds like a chad. And James in no way that masculine.
What would you expect from someone who chokes his wife to death
@@G4M3RGU1D3 smothers* and i dont care what Troy says. Troy is not a fan of Silent Hill. He probably looked at the character model of James and thought "Oooh Jocky". and affixed his voice to do so
not that anyone cares but just some insight.
James is now "generic cool anime anti-hero"
@A Frustrated Gamer You really really believe that?
Sounds like Vincent from Catherine...
@@adriancampos7811 Because it is, and Joel from The last of us too
@@MugiWaraNoKenta Oh... MAGNIFIC!!!!
he does sound like a hot anime character now that i think about it
In my restless dreams, I hears this man...
Guy Cihi...
You promised to Voice James again, but you never did...
Well, my ears bleeding now, cause of Troy's special voice.
eccentricky Not his fault though. It's konami's. Something happend between cihi and konami. If you look up 'the making of silent hill 2" they censored guy cihi's face. Probably something to do with money? Even S.H. 3 heather (heather morris) didn't show up for redubbing heather mason.
You can still select the original voices in the HD version.
Danny Mcneil That's true. Thank God guy cihi fought for his voice to be in HD version. But in S.H. 3 your stuck w/ the new shit one.
Basil Salazar But even the original voices can't save such poor ports, so I stick with the originals.
Danny Mcneil true. Good thing I can still play it in my old ps2. Some of the "new" fans even say the new voices sounds better cause the old ones weren't as good as acting today. I mean this game came out in 2001 so no high expectations there but the acting did fine cause the actors were hired for a reason. But hey at least we don't have James batman on our silent Hill 2.
"You don't sound very happy to see me ..."
Yeah and she doesn't sound like she had just been nearly killed. The original Maria sounds in legit fear for her life in that scene. The HD version Maria sounds like James left her on hold for too long or some trivial shit like that.
Samhain "Anyway? What do you mean anyway?!" I was expecting the same tone but hd sounds awful. At least there was some sort of connection with past actors and their characters
Samhain hell yeah
Holy crap, when I saw the HD version of this scene, I busted out laughing! Maria sounds like she's talking with spit in her mouth, it just completely saps any seriousness the original scene conveyed.
This is largely the reason why I _never_ turned on the new voices. They don't fit the characters, they sound either too polished or downright shitty like that Maria scene, and they sound too dramatic, whereas in the original, they all sounded tired, disjointed, and spaced out (which _completely_ fits given the tone, and in general, what they're going through). Very happy they gave you an option on turning it on or off, but Silent Hill 2 (and 3 as well) should never be "touched up" again, they're already perfect.
I was so mad when I tried the new voices on that part... It was so infuriating how underwhelmed and dull Maria sounded.
The original one gives chills
The original voice acting is better, there is something about it that feels more raw and emotional compared to the redub. Original Maria voice feels angrier than the redub one
Yeah, Mari Devon didn't put much effort when she said "Anyway!? What do you mean 'Anyway'!?"
They both suck, when you hear them past the year and series it was released...
Robots sound emotional? Bc all I hear when they talk in the OG voices is robots pretending to be human
@@averagechadlegionary5824 Then perhaps you need some new ears.
@@Rilumai well, i partially agree with the Guy, James voice is... Eh... Amateur at best and "im lost in this wallmart, could you help me?" At worst, But Mary, Maria and the Little Girl voices seem much better in the OG, The Lady on the cemetery is stuck on a Limbo of Meh in Both versions
The awkward dream-like quality of the originals are what make the performances so beautiful and poignant
Althought I think Troy Baker fits aesthetically the character of James, the older VA fits narrativelly, he gives such an innocent tone to James's voice that helps the plot to be even more unexpected and shocking
Funny that you think Troy's voice fits James more on an aesthetic level, because James' face IS more or less Guy Cihi's.
@@BlueScarabGuy yeah, idk, he just sounds better because of obvious reasons, but I would prefer to stay with the og version instead
So weird in that I finally finished Last of Us today and for years my gut was telling me there’s some kind of link between this & SH2.. I have the ps2 original however..
I may have to look into playing this ps3 version one day though for obvious reasons
Maria’s original voice is so fitting, and they way she screams ‘anyway’ gets me everytime! That voice actor did a great job, the remastered are so half arsed, it’s terrible.
The original voices are both surreal and intimate. They feel like real people because their speech doesn't feel so calculated and rehearsed.
Troy Baker as James just feels so wrong, his voice sounds far too reassured.
You can hear that really clearly in the scene between James and Angela in the graveyard. You can almost picture Troy reading "Ok, alright, I'll be careful" *James says incredulously* or something like that. It's too professional.
The original James is awkward, like he doesn't know how to express himself properly. Those human elements are what made you care about him.
@@dumpsta-divrr365 you explained it so perfectly
Troy Baker voice acts hard, tough characters well.
However, James Sunderland isn't hard and tough. He's an everyday man who's mental state is utterly falling apart. And Troy falls flat when trying to convey emotion.
Was a bad choice in voice actors. Mind you, the entire remaster was bad in general.
WalkmanSilver I love Troy Bakers performances for the most part. He is probably one of the most influential voice actors today but him as James Sunderland just doesn’t feel right at all.
@@dandydante7924 The thing is that Troy can voice emotional characters when they are serious and roughed up as people.
However James is not even a guy who normally uses weapons. The original dub captures the feeling of James basically being scared and confused of everything.
HD James sounds like he has already been through it
Its not all Troy's Fault....Troy can be emotional. It the directors Fault for Directing Troy in that way.
@@Raine_Raine Troy is just as much to blame for it too he tried to make James his own and gave no fucks about the original.
That's literally it. Baker isn't a bad voice actor by any stretch of the word, but he really just doesn't fit this role.
The new Dub isn't bad, the problem lies with the fact that they tried to give an old Game the feeling of a newer Horror Game; it doesn't fit the mood nor the setting nor the Characters.
They tried to give the Characters outstanding personalities when they weren't supposed to stand out. James was supposed to be a normal man in search of his wife while the HD version tried to make him sound like your roughed up Resident Evil Protagonist. Same with all the other Characters, the performance wasn't bad it just doesn't fit well.
I've just played silent hill 2 for the first time, so I'm not nostalgic about this game. The original dub was okey, I mean, videogames dubs weren't really so good back then either. I think the characters are better portrayed than in the new dub, but sometimes some line deliverings are just odd. The new dub is made with better actors, but I think the result ended up being more generic after all. I suppose that, as an actor, you don't put the same amount of effort and involvement in all your projects, and certainly not for a re-dub of a game that was getting a lot of hate even before anyone could hear the result.
Jaegar Ultima the motion capture is ass, what are you on?
The original dub sounds like a localized anime they sound flat like robots who think they’re human
@@averagechadlegionary5824 Not like orinigal anime, which sound like a bunch of overacting clowns
Linkale_ Okay maybe not that bad but close they sound like actors from a bad 80s sitcom is that more accurate?
I think I prefer the original now
Artic Dragon who doesn't?
Me three
Same
@Chairman Jao Bai Den dumb you are
The voice from Mary/Maria was on another level in the original.
The hd remaster well girl i-
Seeing the tape scene re-dubbed fucking hurts ngl. Mary reading the letter at the end must be absolutely terrible
The redub sounds like voice actors, the originals sound like disturbed people.
The HD version’s first interaction between James and Angela missed the point of his character. He doesn’t have anything to live for except for his wife. Finding her is his whole motivation. So he doesn’t really care if it’s dangerous. He interrupts her because he’s in a hurry to find Mary.
But the new voice makes him seem actually afraid when he asks if it’s dangerous, and almost cocky and self-assured when he basically laughs off her explanations.
Tbh the new actors aren't bad...it's just that you can't replicate the strange quality of these normal everyday voices in the original, it makes it feel more real. Some of the deliveries in the original arent even that great, but its that odd sensation that makes it feel so real, like these people are really losing their minds
Laura's voice is the only fitting. I'll give them that.
Agreed.
Laura sounds adorable in both versions. :-)
I disagree. It's a grown woman pretending to be a little girl. Also, the original communicated her headstrong personality as well as her low opinion of and circumstantial relationship with James through her voice, and the new one just sounds like generic little girl, with everything smoothed over. She sounds like she *likes* James, which isn't true to the story.
1:05 unrelated, this is the first time i noticed Team Silent broke the 180 rule of cinematography. kinda a neat trick to make the player feel like something is not right about Maria than just being a look alike to his dead wife
Can you tell me more about that rule? Idk much about cinematography but, you got my attention with that.
@@mainikez019 the 180 rule is an imaginary line the camera cannot cross when doing the dialogue shot-reverse-shot set up. when followed correctly, one person will be on the left side of the screen the other on the right.
it does two effects to the viewer's minds eye that would be perceived as natural:
- the remainder projection of the character after a cut stays in the mind for a moment so it looks like the characters are maintaining eye contact as they talk
- it keeps the staging of the world familiar on par with how backgrounds in theatre look.
adhering to this rule is a casual and comfortable feeling for the audience so they flow along with the dialogue secure in the scene
breaking the rule snaps you out of the lull you might have been in because the environment behind the actors keep changing and it doesn't look like they're talking to each other even though you know they are
this rule works similarly if say two characters are speaking through telepathy or astral projection: following the 180 can trick people into the dialogue as if they are in the same place, while breaking it reminds the audience they are not in the same place
While there were some times when the original voice acting was laughably bad (“How can you just sit there… and eat pizza?!”), for the most part I feel that it perfectly conveys the characters as they were intended to be, especially James. In the original, it’s very believable that James is this reserved, shattered man who is grief stricken by the tragedy of his wife. In the HD version, you really don’t get that feeling since the VA’s performance and James’ personality directly contradict each other.
Damn, i feel so bad for that guy who knew SH2 with those voices from the HD version lol
As much shit as the hd remakes get.
Mary/Maria is voiced by the person who sang all the vocal tracks for the series.
Which I think is pretty neat.
Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaat???? Well now I feel bad cause I LOVED her singing in Silent Hill 4's ost but her acting for Maria wasn't exactly the best.
its absolute garbage
Plus Troy Baker was one of the guitarists when Yamaoka was doing the osts.
Mary Elizabeth McGlynn was flattered that people loved her voice, but she was reluctant to do voice-acting as she herself told that she didn't feel like her voice suits Maria
The original voice acting was clearly inspired by David Lynch's method of directing actors. It's unsettling, slightly uncanny, easily passes off as "bad acting" but accomplishes it's goal. The new VO tries to be naturalistic but sticks out in contrast to the source material's timing, camerawork and animations.
its *too* professional. The orignal actors arent perfect but the weird performances make it feel more natural. Real people talk weird. Makes sense
Another advantage the original has is that the actors actually performed their lines. The cast essentially acted on 'stage' and their performances were put in the game through motion-capture.
The new cast sat in a booth and dubbed over someone else' performance, so it comes across as less genuine.
Troy Baker, for instance, is leaps and bounds a better actor than Guy Cihi, who doesn't even act for a living. But Baker is dubbing over someone else' performance and so it loses a lot of power. Baker is a better actor, but Cihi had a lot more passion for this performance.
The original ALL THE WAY! Guy Cihi, Monika and Dave were all amazing at their roles!
Now he sounds more like Leon.
1:37 "Ok...um...(flips through script) "Anyway?..no wait ahem, ANYWAY?...no that's not right"
Director: "OH GOD HURRY UP!"
Lmaooooo
I love original James, he sounds weak all the time and strong when he needs to. Like Huey from mgs. A weak hearted strong type character. Troy just changes it too much. He sounds like a real mature adult compared to old james
Angela's new voice actress is the only one that is not bad, but she sounds too young. Especially when you know that the original intention was to give angela a voice more mature than her actual age.
Troy and Laura are two of my favorite voice actors, but... they shouldn't have redone the voices. The uncanny delivery of the original VAs is so much more effective
Bruh i didn't even know that was troy baker for HD, great actor but his voice is too deep for James...and Maria...dear god
I've never played these games before but the old voices sound so much more natural? They're a little corny but they have a charm and feel to them that the new voices don't really capture. Especially the scene with Maria yelling at James. She sounded so genuinely angry in the original version.
no Eddie? I was pretty curious about that one.
Mary/Maria sounds way better in the original, i think she's the only voice actor of the bunch that actually delivered her lines well
but the bad delivery did leave us with that delicious feeling that everybody was dreaming, and lost in their own world's.
og va all the way for me
Eddie's new voice is probably the worst of the bunch.
HD Collection Eddie just sounds 2edgy4me whereas his original legitimately sounded like he was going mad.
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They all delivered the lines well exactly as team silent wanted
@A Frustrated Gamer the original voices are pure art, no other game delivered such unique direction and emotions. the HD voices are pure garbage, actors straight taken from anime dub.
@Chairman Jao Bai Den except that's exactly the issue. The new voices sound too professional and rehearses. The old characters act awkward and weird because they are broken people who are barely holding themselves together. Sounding more professional isn't a good thing when that clashes with the tone the story is going for.
Troy Baker just fails to capture how dead inside James is. The original actor only sounds wooden in particular scenes because he doesn't really care what's going on around him because looking for Mary is the only thing he has to live for. Look at his performance during the scene where the 2 pyramid heads kill maria, all of that wooden and awkward tone is gone.
Angela from the original sounds like someone who is genuinely terrified at all times and is constantly on edge. You get a much better sense of how broken she's become from the years of abuse she faces.
The voice actress for Mary/Maria (Monica Taylor Hogan) worked as a professional VA in Japan. She's now retired but gave an interview years ago about how she was thinking about her mother in the hospital when she was reading the letter at the end of the game. Apparently she was so emotional she broke down in the studio after reading it. So the emotion when she read that letter was real.
HD Maria "I've never been so scared in my whole life!" sounds like a parody
Every new voice sounds like they're losing their breathe with each line.
I have no idea why someone would want to redo these fantastic voice lines
New James sounds like an overly exaggerated anime character wtf
Not nearly as relatable and eerie when you’re just playing as Joel from The Last of Us
Wtf lol
Or Revolver Ocelot (Revolver Ocelot)
Hahah true, funny enough troy baker voice him here.
@@iancruz6617 bruh that was the joke, silly goose
@@matheuscruz8574 Patric Zimmerman & Josh Keaton > Cowboy Kitty Cat in MGSV
So basically, the redub sounds like really good professional acting, while the original sounds like they aren't acting at all, but are instead real people.
I'm willing to bet that if the voices were other way around, people would still be hating on HD version.
1:31 Omg, what shitty performance is that?
The way Angela insists on "it's not just the ffffog either" in the original is just more fitting and that's how it is overall.
I don't know how to tell but it doesn't feel like acting much compared to the redub, it literally sounds authentic, not what we could call "professional". They talk like we do in real life basically and i think that's what made it particularly echoey with us players.
New dub isn't bad in essence but it lacks what made these characters looking like any other person next door and feels more like actors are saying their lines instead of telling what they want to share/express on the moment.
Also the sound mix is different, more dreamy in original (or maybe it's cause of the sources used here).
Honestly... I like it. Sure people say the awkwardness is intentional but it still turns some people off it even bothers me sometimes. But I do like Mary's screaming in the original better.
You miss the point they're supposed to sound as they were... Team silent chose them for a reason. The newer ones sound like anime characters or something out of resident evil not a surreal experience and the emotional state of character.
I will never happily play with the new voices. The voice acting had the same campyness the old re games have.
0:42 "I'm Sakura Haruno! What I like uh...I mean the person I like is, uh...my hobby is...my dream for the future is! Mm, mm, mm! And I hate...NARUTO!"
The HD Collection voice actress for Angela also plays Sakura Haruno. She sounds more like Shippuden Sakura, but I can still hear it and can't unhear it. Original > HD.
That's Laura Bailey. Kate Higgins is the voice actor for Sakura.
Maria's recast voice sounds like a grandmother
I miss this game
Wait what!? Troy Baker does the voice for the new James!? How did I not know this 🤯🤯
Even before starting a new game I instantly picked the og voices because I knew before hand that the voice lines had been re-recorded and that they lost the charm the originals had. The feeling of lostiness and confusion the characters once had were gone. The new voices portray a James on a mission to find his wife with almost steadfast resolve. Og James was a man that was innocent with a dark secret that even he forget about with good reason.
James new voice actor really cool actually
What people forget about the characters and the way they talk is that they are not normal people and not sane in the head, the way they talk is an indicator of how they are messed up mentally and will always speak and think awkwardly
That's the main reason why most people like the original voices more than the HD version and I'm one of them
the current dubbing is superior in almost all factors, you are being homesick. in addition to the infinitely better acting, he becomes imposing in the moments that it was lacking, while still showing himself to be sympathetic.
Well said it's nostalgia for the "critics"... Who clearly understand next to nothing about acting let alone voice acting.
@@pmaughmerIdk Maria’s va did a hell of a job in the first one. Troy baker sounds way to confident and masculine as James which we know to not be true about his character. The rest are rather solid
i like how it isnt troy doing a bad job its him doing too good of a job
The OG voices are so perfectly awkward and dreamlike. I think the cinematic voice will suit the remake but not the OG game. The original VA reading Mary's letter is so perfect.
0:48 I love the fact both Snow and Serah are in the same game again (I know this was before final fantasy 13 but it's still really cool)
joel and abby from the last of us as well 💀😭
In HD Collection Looks Like an ASMR Video :0
The original isn’t perfect but damn, the HD version gives me a whole new appreciation for it
how did they not realize how much worse it was than the original???
Watching the voice acting in the HD remix out of courisouly for the first time, Troy Baker makes James sounds like he's a stoner who really doesn't give a fuck on why he's even there. Whereas Guy Cihi acting makes James sound he's genuinely both sad and confused from his situation and what he's really doing.
the original is just so fucking good.
The New voice for Angela is So-Young from White Day
Unpopular opinion - I like the HD version better - more realistic.
The HD voices sound cleaner, though the angry one with Maria is the only one i prefer over the HD one
Not gonna lie, the new voice actors are professionals, and its REALLY good. Troy Baker as James was a hell of a choice, and so does Mary Elizabeth Mcglynn(especially because it hints that I Want Love and Waiting For You is actually Maria singing in Heaven's Night).
BUT,
The original is a classic and we all know that the awkward and ''bad'' voice acting are on purpose, to give a feeling that something IS wrong with these characters and the way they behave.
That Mary's voice in HD collection... so terrible... I almost laughed when she said: sO pEaCeFuL
Donna Burke's take is somehow better. I know it technically shouldn't be, but it doesn't sound right with a different voice.
Man… i’d pick all the voice actors except Marias from the hd collection.
From a critical and objectve production point of view: the HD voices is superior.
It's just these nostalgic fanatics too afraid to recognize and admit bad acting and recording quality. Bias and denial deluxe
I do not think so. It is about the character development. For me I prefer Mary in the hd collection. She sounded helpless when and you will pity her. The OG Mary/Maria has some annoying tendencies. You will also appreciate her in Born from a wish while she talks to ernest. She sounded really sincere. James on the other hand does not fit Troy Baker's. He sounded to firm and assuring. James sunderland is a guy that is in not right state of mind and questionable sanity. The former James who sounded naive, lost, confused, dumb actually fits the character more.
Most definitely and well said. I played the OG and it's just... It's not very good voice acting in comparison. Period.
you might prefer it, but if you can't understand why people prefer the original other than 'nostalgia' then you're as ignorant as you claim them to be.
the updated voices sound like professional actors doing their job for a tv show or movie, except this isn't supposed to be "Silent hill, the Horror movie type game" that's what resident evil is for... silent hill is supposed to be surreal and unnerving and uncomfortable, and honestly the budget voice actors who sound like REAL people, uncomfortable and unsure about what they're doing just adds to that. Except James, he got a bad wrap in both versions, you either get quite and meek, or gruff and out of place.
Larua Bailey and Troy Baker are amazing voice actors but no one can do the original voice work for Silent Hill 2 justice, it simply can't be topped due to the tone that the game is trying to pull off. I can tell it was a good effort though, I bet they were honored to work on the project.
It was trash and they sounded like trash
The issue is that TS studied psychology on many things, such as the fear of the unknown, body language and how people, with issues, emote, and the new voices just use typical animation voice acting that emote just emotion, in a very acted manner, too, not anxiety, being fixated on a delusion, problem or dilemma, being disinterested in all but one's fantasy, etc., or that certain realistic, casual drop in the ability to emote, acting as if it's realistic for them to emote, always, with such power, with the issues they have. It makes them a cartoon rather a real person.
Team Silent explore these many things, via different characters, but, now, James hardly sounds like a person with problems, via the way he begins to emote. Originally, his normal voice just sounds unacted, about 99٪ of the time. Now, it's the clean opposite, sounding like a rock star band singer trying to use his singing voice in his voice acting.
It's not about mediocrity, but spirit and character, and atmosphere. And, last, the emotions are based on giving it their best performance, like forcing it, almost, rather what the dialog, scene and character reactions & personalities call for.
"This town is full of monsters, how can you sit there and eat pizza?!"
The new Eddie sounds pretty good
Some of this acting is genuinely bad sometimes lmao.
Maria's "anyway" in the HD collection sounds like she's trying to scream but her parents are asleep in the next room and she doesn't wanna wake them up or sum.
James' new voice goes from his softer, nervous sounding voice in the original. To some generic deep voiced cool guy who is always calm and collected
so glad i disregarded the /v/irgins recommendation to play the HD version, and simply emulated the ps2 version.
I highly doubt anyone pn /v/ would recommend the hd collection
@@DontJinxItYet you got me. im actually a ledditor *tips fedora* with a vendetta against the /v/ chads that bullied me in school so i made up that slander to make them look bad.
It's actually 50/50 some voices are better in original and some better in new version.
I personally prefer the new version
I just started the game for the first time ever a moments ago, chose to play with new voices but I was wondering about the originals, I’m gonna restart with the original voices!
i can’t go through this again
The original voice of Maria in this scene is better than the new voice actress. The original she screamed at James for leaving her, and she had every right to scream at him. But the new voice is not the emotion that a woman would give a man, that was left her to die.
good thing in the hd collection u can choose original or new voices
No disrespect to Troy. He's a pro. Big fan. But even though he brings a lot more naturalism and texture to James' voice, the original is still... better suited? Like the stilted, shaky quality of the original VA makes James sound like he's constantly terrified, both of the world around him and of letting someone glimpse his inner turmoil. He sounds like someone trying to put up a guard against this scenario and failing
When new James told Angela "okay, I got it" he sounded dismissive/capable. Old James says it and I hear foolhardy at best, and dangerously close to madness already.
See I thought the voice acting was crap when I first started the original, so I looked up the newer dub to see if it's really worse and yeah, it's worse, in the og dub the lines don't usually sound natural like in newer games and movies, but at least they put some emotion into it
I understand what some people are saying. Although the original sounded bad and seems like the voice acting is bad at first, it actually gives the characters more like and character than the HD version could ever dream of. A few of the characters are going through mental problems. And then there's obviously Maria and how scared she sounded.
The original does have a better fit in my opinion, and even if the HD version TRIED to make the voice acting better, even in terms of good voice acting, it didn't improve much.
And sure, good voice acting does strive to make the characters sound more like people, and more alive. And yes we don't talk like actors ALL the time or characters from anime, but there are people who do in real life, and people who talk with a lot of emotion, and character in them. Which is what voice acting or acting strives for, to bring out realism. But some people have argued that like James and the other characters in this game, some people in real life don't talk like that.
I myself don't sound like voice actors sound. My voice has little emotion or character in it, although some is present. So is see why people would say that. It really comes down to whether you prefer emotion, or no emotion.
Although in this case, in this game, it's no emotion. Because it fits the characters better. And this game is way better compared to other examples of "Bad" voice acting. Like the Dr. Wily thing, like Zelda CDI, and other games with bad voice acting.
The new voice... there's something "wrong" with it....
The HD version is better. It’s obvious people are simping for the original because it’s nostalgia talking out of their asses
lol hd version the actors like 1mm away from the mic.
I vote for the original. The HD sounds more low production value voice acting.
The bit with Angela is so different. The original has such desperation in her voice; the new one isn't bad, but definitely not memorable.
The new voices may not be as iconic but I appreciate the effort that was at least put in James's voice
The redub was done with the classical "clean" sound and acting in mind and it feels a little rushed or not as time-invested.
The original was improvised and rehearsed and re-drafted to death until the had the perfect delivery that expresses that particular character (so no arguing about how awkward Angela originally sounded, she was meant to sound awkward and a bit unhinged).
A friend of mine once told me that Angela’s voice in the original sounds a lot like Grace Randolph and not I can’t unheard that 😂
The thing is James was so nice to hold everything back and it’s not like the player knew that till later or even knew James murdered his wife again till later
James sounds equal or a little better in HD version, but holy shit HD Maria sounds awful.
+Kamran Dadashov that was definitely a huge part of his charm
Julius Plaesar James sounds fucking horrendous.
Guy Cihi *is* James Sunderland in my mind, not the same without him.
Kamran Dadashov Was that the point over the voice acting for James?
Felipe Segura that's actually the point cause we need to here him sounding like weakling. I mean this guy obviously never gotten into a fight before. Plus the original V.A. make you think james sounds so innocent but in the new one is just no.
HD James is missing 100% of the inflection and emotion. Angela kind of has the same problem but at least I don't want to punch her in the face. I wish we'd gotten more of her and Eddie in this though.
Bit of a slap in the face to the original voice cast if you ask me
Proof that updating things isn't always good