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  • @PapaFlammy69
    @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

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    • @leif1075
      @leif1075 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Flammy why not juet rewrite x as (x^2)^1/2 and solve it thst way..Hopenyou can PLEASE sjare why yiu did it this convoluted way. But thanks for sharing.

  • @YellowBunny
    @YellowBunny 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +188

    I'm not familiar with this kind of mathematics, but here's my approach. Let y=x^2, making the integral y^(1/2) dy. This equals 2/3*y^(3/2). Substituting back yields 2/3*y^3. Plug in the bound to get 2/3*(1-0) = 2/3.
    So, I got the same result. But I'm not sure how well this idea generalizes or if there are any ways in which it breaks.

    • @shaurryabaheti
      @shaurryabaheti 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +21

      thats what I did xD

    • @Qaptyl
      @Qaptyl 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

      dx^2 is dx^2/dx * dx
      = d/dx[x^2] * dx
      = 2xdx

    • @ianmathwiz7
      @ianmathwiz7 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +33

      They are equivalent as long as g is continuously differentiable and strictly increasing.

    • @mrpsychodeliasmith
      @mrpsychodeliasmith 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      That's exactly what I did. I put u = x^2, so dx^2 becomes du, and x = u^(1/2). Then integral is u^(1/2) du which gives U^(3/2) / 3/2 => 1/(3/2) i.e. 2/3.

    • @dank.
      @dank. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      ​@@Qaptyl Leibniz notation is the best lol

  • @alexander8311
    @alexander8311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +269

    nice try, but we know that dx is very small, so higher orders are basically zero which yields the trivial result of zero for the integral

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +84

      fucc, u got me D:

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +53

      But this isn't (dx)^2, this is d(x^2).

    • @alexander8311
      @alexander8311 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

      @@KinuTheDragon for dx = x = 0 it holds

    • @diobrando7642
      @diobrando7642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      ​@alexander8311 wait, so dx = sin(x)

    • @othila9902
      @othila9902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      ​@@diobrando7642
      wrong. dx=dsin(x)

  • @jppagetoo
    @jppagetoo 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

    Once you defined the terms of the original integral it all made sense. I never thought about integrating across a different function instead of just dx.

  • @phonon1
    @phonon1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +178

    Very useful integral in probability.

    • @williamnathanael412
      @williamnathanael412 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Help explain

    • @phonon1
      @phonon1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

      @williamnathanael412 In statistics, every random variable admits a cumulative distribution function F_X, but not every random variable admits a density/mass function. So, in general, we can define the expected value of a random variable X as E(X)=\int x dF_X(x) (integrating w.r.t. the cdf).

    • @phonon1
      @phonon1 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@williamnathanael412 see properties section in this wiki article as a starting point: en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Expected_value?wprov=sfla1

    • @diobrando7642
      @diobrando7642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@phonon1isn't the generalized case the integral over Omega of X in dP?

    • @ekxo1126
      @ekxo1126 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      yes he should also show for a discrete probability how the integral works out to be the usual sum

  • @FaerieDragonZook
    @FaerieDragonZook 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    From the product rule, d(x*x^2) = x d(x^2) + dx*x^2. So x^3|(0->1) = int(x d(x^2))|(0->1) + int(x^2 dx)|(0->1). 1 = int(x d(x^2))|(0->1) + ⅓. So the answer is 1 - ⅓ = ⅔

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      Very nice approach! :)

    • @siwygameplay
      @siwygameplay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      This is just integration by parts btw

    • @renanwilliamprado5380
      @renanwilliamprado5380 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@siwygameplay Not exactly, it depends on your interpretation.

    • @tfg601
      @tfg601 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@renanwilliamprado5380 and what interpretation is that

  • @vincentproplayer
    @vincentproplayer 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +69

    Isn't this solvable by writing x as sqrt(x^2) and then treating it as int{sqrt(t)dt} with t= x^2

    • @hassanniaz7583
      @hassanniaz7583 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

      yea that's basically what i thought (to let x^2=u). But this video wasn't just about getting the right answer. This vid provided a good insight on what it means to integrate w.r.t g(x)...

    • @ZipplyZane
      @ZipplyZane 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@hassanniaz7583Sure, but I thought he'd use substitution at the end to show how to relate the two different types of integrals.

    • @Brandon-be2uw
      @Brandon-be2uw 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      Is really similar to the easier way he uses later in the video, but notice that x ≠ sqrt(x²), in fact, sqrt(x²) = |x|.
      Still, in this case, it is true, since we are working in [0,1], but the correct way to conclude what you said I think it would be
      Int x dx²
      Int x 2x dx
      Using t = x² and dt = 2x dx
      Int sqrt(t) dt

    • @digbycrankshaft7572
      @digbycrankshaft7572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yes. Exactly how I approached it.

    • @neboskryobchannel5303
      @neboskryobchannel5303 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Why using change of variables, isn't it just Int 2x^2 dx = 2/3 * x^3 ?

  • @mitch523
    @mitch523 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    No one gonna talk about the farmers tan?? Goes crazyyyyy

    • @eigenchannel-137
      @eigenchannel-137 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @ricardoparada5375
    @ricardoparada5375 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Oh wow, I wasn’t expecting to see a Riemann-Stieltjes integral today

  • @flamurtarinegjakyt3745
    @flamurtarinegjakyt3745 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +25

    Never seen a definite integral done by definition. Very exciting video

  • @ChrisRossaroDidatticaDigitale
    @ChrisRossaroDidatticaDigitale 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +64

    12:00, 2i-1.

    • @ofridaniel2127
      @ofridaniel2127 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Yeah i thought i was crazy for a second

    • @adgalad25
      @adgalad25 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      It yields the same result. But yeah.. it's 2i-1. I had to do the sum like 5 times to convince me 😂

  • @Legion22Cl217
    @Legion22Cl217 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Personaly, I'd just use some differential geometry result
    dx² is a volume form onto the segment [0,1], it can simply be calculated as : dx² = 2xdx (as it is the exterior derivative of the scalar field x->x²)
    Then your integral is simply 2 \int_0^1 x²dx=2/3, that's all folks

    • @dank.
      @dank. 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Exterior derivative go brrrrr

    • @tomfan5863
      @tomfan5863 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      that was my immediate thought. dx^2 is 2 x dx, and then do the integral.

    • @GeodesicBruh
      @GeodesicBruh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yuuuup this is the way to do it quickly.

    • @vincentstone7272
      @vincentstone7272 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I like this way

  • @discontinuity7526
    @discontinuity7526 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    this was exactly the kind of video I needed right now. I've been out of university for a few years and getting back into calculus, and your explanation at the beginning could not have been better for me. I had no idea you could integrate by different functions like that, and I was amazing that the result of xdx^2 was 2/3 haha. Absolute banger and I will definitely be revisiting this multiple times

  • @gabrieleinsiedel1849
    @gabrieleinsiedel1849 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    19:08 = integrate [cos(x) d(sin(x))] from 0 to 1.
    1. Apply previous rule, yielding: integral {cos(x)[sin(x)]' dx} from 0 to 1
    2. Since derivative for sin(x) = cos(x), that yields: integral [cos²(x) dx] from 0 to 1
    3. Just solve
    4. = (1/2) + [sin(2)/4] 😁
    Edit: plus sign rectified 😅

    • @bobdavid01
      @bobdavid01 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Slight correction, the sin(2)/4 has a positive sign

  • @nablahnjr.6728
    @nablahnjr.6728 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

    nice display of Riemann/Stieltjes methods
    people just do the last one in practice though, now i wonder if there would be a generalization if g was not continuous

    • @tomkerruish2982
      @tomkerruish2982 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      There is; in fact, the definition of the Riemann-Stieltjes integral does not require g(x) to be continuous. It must, however, be of bounded variation, which means it can't be too 'wiggly'.For example, sin(1/x) would be a bad choice in the vicinity of x=0, even if you explicitly exclude x=0. A full explanation is outside the scope of what I can write in a TH-cam comment.

    • @KinuTheDragon
      @KinuTheDragon 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@tomkerruish2982"I have a marvelous proof of this fact that this comment section is too narrow to contain."
      - Fermat if he used TH-cam

  • @nigerianprinceajani
    @nigerianprinceajani 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    It is dx² = 2xdx, so xdx² = x(2xdx), thus integral(0,1)(xdx²) = integral(0,1)(2x²dx) = 2integral(0,1)(x²dx) = 2(⅓1³ - ⅓0³) = ⅔
    Note that in identifying x(2xdx) with 2x²dx I'm using that we have a module operation from the ring of smooth functions on all differential-k-forms defined by left-multiplication.

  • @taterpun6211
    @taterpun6211 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Although it might not be obvious at first the point of this integral modification, one of its strengths shines in A(x) being a partial sum function (A(x)=A(floor(x))=sum of terms

  • @bingchilling4717
    @bingchilling4717 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    couldnt you switch the variable? if you consider x^2=t that means x=sqrt t since x is possitive so the integral just becomres integral from 0 to1 of sqrt t dt which is 2/3

  • @georgasatryan3876
    @georgasatryan3876 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    just say u= x^2 and you'll have integral(sqrt(u))du what equals ⅔*u^3/2 equals ⅔*(u^½)^3 and since u = x^2, it means sqrt(u) = x so: ⅔*x^3.

  • @gavinh8146
    @gavinh8146 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    At 11:53 he says “2i - i” but means, I think, “2i - 1”. I found this very confusing at first because the “i”s look almost the same as the “1”s on the blackboard.

    • @fritskuijk
      @fritskuijk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      You are right, but whatever comes out of it will be of size n and thus will be ruled out by the n^-3 factor. That might be the reason he did not correct the error if he became aware of it

  • @douglasstrother6584
    @douglasstrother6584 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That was fun! Very "Michael Penn".

  • @ben_adel3437
    @ben_adel3437 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love evil looking integrals and the fact that we can actually do stuff to calculate them

  • @encounteringjack5699
    @encounteringjack5699 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Nice!
    Little piece of new info.
    I tried it before watching and got the same answer.
    What I did was I set x^2 as y. Solved for x to get sqrt(y). Didn’t change the bounds cuz it’s just 0 to 1 and those don’t think would really change given this scenario.
    So now it’s the integral from 0 to 1 of sqrt(y) with respect to y.
    This gives the answer of 2/3 as well.
    Playing for a bit, changing the bounds to that function is accurate. If it were 0 to 2, it’d be the integral from 0 to 4 since (0)^2 is 0 and (2)^2 is 4. Comparing that to the form of solving this for continuous functions.
    Integral from a to b of f times g’ dx. Gets the same answer for the 0 to 2 situation. Which is 16/3.

  • @-.-Infinity-.-
    @-.-Infinity-.- หลายเดือนก่อน

    For context At 2:40 and just a senior at highschool
    Isn't this the same as Integral of √xdx from 0 to 1
    Can't we just extrapolate the answer from that
    Or let x²=u then it just becomes a normal integral
    With the last formula,
    Int cosx d(sinx)
    = Int cosx × cosx dx
    = Int cos²x dx
    = Int (cos2x+1)/2 dx
    = (1/2) Int (cos2x +1) dx
    = (1/2) (sin2x/2 + x + C1)
    = Sin2x/4 + x/2 + C
    Sorry if I did anything incorrect
    But is that really the only way to do that, i feel.we can maybe play around with the fact that cosx and sinx are derivates/integrals of each other

  • @abhirupkundu2778
    @abhirupkundu2778 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We got just use the substitution, x^2=t. x= root(t) assuming x is positive for this integral. So we got root(t)dt, = 2/3t^3/2= 2/3x^3, and applying the limits, we get 2/3

  • @epicperson9961
    @epicperson9961 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This is how I did it:
    Let x² = t,
    Such that dx²/dt = 1,
    Hence dx² = dt.
    As a result the integral §xdx² becomes §√tdt which equals 2/3 √t³ + c
    Of which you can re-sub to obtain 2x³/3 + c.
    Substituting bounds, you then get 2/3.

  • @tushi10
    @tushi10 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It's simple, you can Wright the x to ((x^)1/2)^2. Then you simply integration it and you will get (2x^3)/3. Then you input the limit and the ans is 2/3.

  • @user-SK22-calc
    @user-SK22-calc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    we can compute dx^2 using the chain rule:
    dx^2=dx^2/dx*dx=(x^2)'*dx=2xdx
    int x dx^2=int 2x^2 dx=2/3x^3. after evaluation we get 2/3.

  • @Djenzh
    @Djenzh 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @threepointone415
    @threepointone415 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The Rie-womann Integral

  • @Mrlonely345
    @Mrlonely345 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Its becomes really easy if we write dx^2 = 2xdx . And the answer is 2/3 simple

  • @kappasphere
    @kappasphere 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Commenting from just the thumbnail to say that it makes perfect sense if you just say y=x², implying dy = 2x dx, so dx² = 2x dx. In total:
    int_0^1 x dx²
    = int_0^1 x 2x dx
    = int_0^1 2x² dx
    = [2/3 x³]_0^1
    = ⅔

  • @firozabegum4373
    @firozabegum4373 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    "Nonlinear Partition Scaling" explains it all

  • @dougr.2398
    @dougr.2398 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    dx ^ 2 = 2x dx

    • @dougr.2398
      @dougr.2398 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Notation is unclear is dx^2 interpreted as (dx)^2 or d(x^2)??? Both in the video and my comment!!!!

    • @dougr.2398
      @dougr.2398 หลายเดือนก่อน

      If the former is intended, then an additional integral sign is needed, so the latter is assumed to be the intent and correct

  • @cheddastacker
    @cheddastacker 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @7th_dwarf542
    @7th_dwarf542 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    very clear and didactic 👏 thank you for this contribution

  • @wagsman9999
    @wagsman9999 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @als2cents679
    @als2cents679 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I did it is a much simpler way
    Integral [x d(x^2)] x^2 going from 0 to 1
    = Integral [x du] u going from 0 to 1, where u = x^2
    du = 2 x dx
    and when u = 0, x = 0 and when u = 1, x = 1 for the limits of the definite integral
    So,
    Integral [ x du ] u going from 0 to 1
    = Integral [ x (2 x dx) ] x going from 0 to 1
    = 2 * Integral [ x^2 dx ] x going from 0 to 1
    = 2 * [ x^3 / 3 ] from 0 to 1
    = (2/3) * [ x^3 ] from 0 to 1
    = (2/3) * (1^3 - 0^3)
    = (2/3) * (1 - 0)
    = (2/3) * (1)
    = 2/3

  • @laitinlok1
    @laitinlok1 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let u=x^2, du/dx= 2x, du= 2x dx , so the integral becomes x 2x dx, when u=0, x=0, when u=1, x=+-1.

  • @jewgenijmoldawski3306
    @jewgenijmoldawski3306 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    My first guess was: let y=x^2 and therefore x=y^1/2. Then integrate y^1/2 with respect dy. The result is of course also 2/3

  • @Kunal1255
    @Kunal1255 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    So there are two branches of x for the equation y=x^2, hence I would expect that there are two possible solutions, namely +2/3 or -2/3, corresponding to each branch. Can you explain why we disregarded the other branch?

  • @marekrawluk
    @marekrawluk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yet another way: d(x^2) may be multiplied by 1, where 1 = dx/dx. Next d(x^2) * (1/dx *dx) makes d(x^2)/dx *dx, and this yields to 2x*dx, guessed immediately, waiting impatiently till 18:00.
    No formal prove, just "an engineer" version, but when our mathematical language uses some basic "grammar" rules it should be created in that way - our convention way.
    The 2x multiplier makes non-linear expansion on x axis of a regular Riemann integral, showed quickly somewhere in the mid part of the movie.

  • @theangledsaxon6765
    @theangledsaxon6765 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @koenth2359
    @koenth2359 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    xdx^2 = x•2xdx = 2x^2dx = d(2x^3/3)
    So the value of the given definite integral is 2/3 - 0 = 2/3.

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  • @wjalp
    @wjalp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Watched until the end! Also the assignment's answer is = 1/2+(sin(2))/4 :DD

  • @loganhagendoorn6327
    @loganhagendoorn6327 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love your content, thats such a smart way to solve this!

  • @RuthvenMurgatroyd
    @RuthvenMurgatroyd 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the spirit of the intro meme 0:03 I like to think about it like this:
    dx² = 2xdx
    ∴ ∫xdx² = ∫x(2xdx) = 2∫x²dx = ⅔x³ + C.
    hence when the integral is evaluated from 0 to 1 it equals ⅔.
    19:19
    sin(x) is differentiable everywhere on the real number line so it's differentiable on that interval.
    dsin(x) = cos(x)dx
    ∴ ∫cos(x)dsin(x) = ∫cos(x)[cos(x)dx] = ∫cos²(x)dx = ½x + ¼sin(2x) + C.
    hence when the integral is evaluated from 0 to 1 it equals ½ + ¼sin(2) ≈ 0.7273243567.

  • @GodzillaFreak
    @GodzillaFreak 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Wait am I coping?
    Can't we just index u = x^2?
    We would get int(0-1) u^(1/2)du
    Which solves to (2/3)u^(3/2)](0-1)
    And if we put back in x^2 for you we get
    (2/3)x^3](0-1)
    Which seems identical to the expected result.
    That seems to simple though so please tell me where I'm just completely wrong.

    • @thesuhasvasishta
      @thesuhasvasishta 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      no you are absolutely correct,

    • @GodzillaFreak
      @GodzillaFreak หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@thesuhasvasishta Oh, that's great :D

  • @jebarijihed
    @jebarijihed 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    hey great video ! Is it possble so to do the integral of 1/dx ?

  • @dragileinchen1485
    @dragileinchen1485 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really like to see the views on this vid. Hope this shows you, what your community really wants to see. I dont think more than 1% wants exponent rules.

  • @melonking9752
    @melonking9752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I think we could've just solve it by saying x²=y and x=√y and so ∫¹₀ x dx² will be ∫¹₀ √y dy and the result will be (2y^3/2)/3 |¹₀ and the result of it is 2/3.

    • @Awdcguk
      @Awdcguk 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Use the absolute value for that

    • @melonking9752
      @melonking9752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@AwdcgukBecause of the square root? Also do you think my way makes sense?

  • @kostasch5686
    @kostasch5686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The 6 dislikes are probably coming from the very misleading thumbnail featuring Feynman and x*dsinx.

  • @thekingofgindio
    @thekingofgindio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    I'm afraid to ask why your right bicep seems larger than your left one

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      Masturbation I guess.

    • @thekingofgindio
      @thekingofgindio 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@PapaFlammy69 😎

    • @celestindupilon2773
      @celestindupilon2773 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PapaFlammy69 Aber PappaFlammy, du solltest doch wissen: 99, 100, Handwechsel!

    • @lithunoisan
      @lithunoisan 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PapaFlammy69what?

  • @marcosmaldonado7890
    @marcosmaldonado7890 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    nice riemann-stieltjes integral👍🏻👍🏻

  • @juliank.3522
    @juliank.3522 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    How did you get [ 2*i - i ] in the left bottom corner of the first page? Thx

  • @crypticcrazy3672
    @crypticcrazy3672 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To equalize the subdivisions of the ordinate axis, I replaced x with SQRT(y) and dx^2 with dy, and the integral value of 2/3 pops out. (limits are unchanged) I have no idea if this presents any kind of general solution. I see others did the same.

  • @appleducky5234
    @appleducky5234 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What would you do if the limits of integration don't match up?
    For all the examples you do dx^2 and dsin(x) the limits, 0 and 1 when plugged in result in new limits sin(1) = 1 and (1)^2 = 1 and similar for zero.
    For the Thumbnail integral the limits 0 to 2 don't match up and sinx never reaches 2.
    Since this trick operates on similar principals to U-Substitution wouldn't we need to change the limits of integration, and for the thumbnail example also split the integral into two pieces since sinx is not 1to1 from 0 to 2.

  • @rajdeepsingh26
    @rajdeepsingh26 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    I have a tip for you for better videos
    * better lighting

    • @BikeArea
      @BikeArea 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      🙏

  • @melonking9752
    @melonking9752 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Before watching it, my answer is 2/3

  • @robfielding8566
    @robfielding8566 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Wow, what a complicated way to use the notation.
    This is how I do it:
    // my definition of integral, as a cancellation of S and d, where d is implicit diff operator
    S [d f] = f - f_0, d[f_0]=0
    S (x d[x^2])
    = S x*2*x dx
    = 2 S (x^2 dx)
    = 2/3 S d[x^3]
    = 2/3 x^3 - f_0
    = 2/3 1^3 - 2/3 0^3
    = 2/3

  • @jorgeperezmolina2235
    @jorgeperezmolina2235 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Shouldn't the x^2 be in parentesis? I mean, dx^2 looks like dx*dx, while d(x^2) would look like 2x*dx. After all, in a second order derivative, where the notation used has no parentesis, we kinda mean dx*dx. I mean the "denominator" of the derivative, btw.

  • @mr.inhuman7932
    @mr.inhuman7932 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Well this seems interesting.

  • @alali2885
    @alali2885 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    much much simpler would it be to just take d(x^2) = 2x*dx, then we would get 2*int(x^2 dx)|(0->1), and then basically (2*(x^3 /3))|(0->1) which is equal to 2/3...

  • @evanwilliams7376
    @evanwilliams7376 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Imagine saying this only works for real functions and then going crazy with the i's.

  • @txikitofandango
    @txikitofandango 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Okay, this makes sense. I thought you were going to integrate over (dx)^2, not d(x^2), which would really be crazy

  • @Dissimulate
    @Dissimulate 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or just substitute u=x^2.
    sqrt(u)=x
    x=0 -> u=0
    x=1 -> u=1
    Integral(0->1)(sqrt(u)du) = (2/3)u^(3/2) | (0 -> 1)
    = (2/3)(1)^(3/2) - (2/3)(0)^(3/2)
    = 2/3

  • @bantix9902
    @bantix9902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    We should get the same value for the integral if it's just a different partition of the x-axis.

  • @hellohello-tf9vc
    @hellohello-tf9vc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just write x=(x2)^1/2 and it becoomes a pretty simple integral

  • @Phaust94
    @Phaust94 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Let's do Lebesgue-Stiltjes now

  • @nikitaluzhbin8982
    @nikitaluzhbin8982 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Really?
    Just a clickbate!
    d(x^2) = 2xd(x)
    S[0,1] x * 2xd(x) = S[0,1] 2x^2d(x) = [0, 1] | 2/3x^ = 2/3 * 1^3 - 2/3 * 0^3 = 2/3

  • @emilleonardelli4047
    @emilleonardelli4047 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    17:35 I'm not sure and maybe I'm wrong, but isn't there a theorem that for a complex function a derivative exist? Does that mean complex functions are always integrateble that way?

  • @m.h.6470
    @m.h.6470 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    just substitute x² with y, then you get
    Integral from 0 to 1 of √y dy, which results in 2/3. Done.

  • @tmlen845
    @tmlen845 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Can't you just set X = x^2 (so x = √X), and then calculate the normal integral of √X d X, with X from 0 to √1? At least for this example, it seems to give the same result 2/3.

  • @ViewtifulSam
    @ViewtifulSam 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I have one question. If the intuition is that we're dividing the segment according to the function g rather than linearly, why do we still take x_i to be i times delta x?

  • @flutterwind7686
    @flutterwind7686 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    d g(x) looks eerily similar to
    d g(x) / dx so the result seems kinda obvious in that way.
    d g(x) / dx = g'(x) can be rearranged to d g(x) = g'(x) dx

  • @sobhhi
    @sobhhi 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Gnarly farmer’s tan bro

  • @topquark22
    @topquark22 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    In the Riemann integral, the partitions are equidistant. The point here is, they need not be.

  • @Hussain-px3fc
    @Hussain-px3fc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Before continuing the video the shirt caught my attention, why is 57 the best prime?

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Grothendieck prime

    • @Hussain-px3fc
      @Hussain-px3fc 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Oh I see, I didn’t even notice that it wasn’t actually a prime until now 😅 and great video btw

  • @sumdumbmick
    @sumdumbmick 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    it actually applies in all cases. it's merely that the standard case results in f'(x) being the multiplicative identity, so it's not necessary to be aware of it:
    if f(x) = x then f'(x) = 1
    ∫ g(x) df(x) = ∫ g(x) f'(x) dx = 1 ∫ g(x) dx = ∫ g(x) dx

  • @broucho
    @broucho หลายเดือนก่อน

    I don't get what you do at 11:52, in the parenthesis i think i squared disappear and i get 2i -1 but you write i(2i -i), and of course over n3

  • @bastianfrom77
    @bastianfrom77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That kind of stuff was actually "high school" stuff in germany around mid 90s - it is called integration by substitution.

    • @PapaFlammy69
      @PapaFlammy69  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Nope, Stieltjes has nothing to do with substitution.

    • @bastianfrom77
      @bastianfrom77 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@PapaFlammy69 das sieht zumindest sehr ähnlich aus. Was ist der konkrete Unterschied?

  • @APaleDot
    @APaleDot 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Is this the motivation for the 'd' operator for the exterior derivative?

  • @wjalp
    @wjalp 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I really enjoyed this video! Keep it up! :DD

  • @nalydify
    @nalydify 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I'm confused about how at 10:15 you say x_i is still i/n when we've just redefined delta(x) to be g(x_i)-g(x_i-1), since x_i = 0 + idelta(x), don't we need to recalculate x_i using our new delta(x)?

  • @thomastd5
    @thomastd5 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    9:55 When doing the new integral, you wrote the new f(x_i) as the same as the one in the previous integral, namely f(x_i) = f(i/n) = i/n. However, this defining of x_i used the previous value for Delta x (Delta x = i/n), instead of the new value for Delta x (Delta x = g(x_i) - g(x_i-1). How can you still say that f(x_i) is the same even after this new value for delta x?

    • @bantix9902
      @bantix9902 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No he can't. That's what i thought as well.

  • @poyrazpekcan6635
    @poyrazpekcan6635 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I tried by saying dx^2 = du then integrated both sides however that gives me a + c (tho it conveniently gives the right answer for c = 0)

  • @MathematicFanatic
    @MathematicFanatic 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Isn't there some sense in which d(x^2) is simply equal to 2x dx? It is not some kind of trick, they are literally equal and can be substituted for one another, which makes this wacky integral in fact very easy!

  • @ninireak7325
    @ninireak7325 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    That is ONE solution, if dx² means d(x²). But if dx² would mean (dx)² the solution is 0, because the volume under a surface of infinitesimal thickness tends to zero.

  • @siwygameplay
    @siwygameplay 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Or you can just think about this as integration by parts: x dg(x)=d(xg(x))-g(x)dx and integrate both sides

  • @nerdygeek8947
    @nerdygeek8947 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Flammy try integral(0 to 1) (x*d[x]) ;[x] is the greatest integral function

  • @elcolicous
    @elcolicous 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    int[xd(x^2)] = int[sqrt(p)d(p)] = 2/3 p^(3/2), for p from 0 to 1: 2/3

  • @boranxiii
    @boranxiii 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    isn't d(x²) just 2xdx?

  • @bahaloicperrial8964
    @bahaloicperrial8964 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I didn't use this method. I instead use u=x**0.5, and i differiented both sides, and I applied it. It gave me 2/3

  • @AmlanSarkar-wr2pr
    @AmlanSarkar-wr2pr 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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  • @MarcusPereiraRJ
    @MarcusPereiraRJ 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    But if g'(x) is a notation for dg(x)/dx, isn't it obviously deductible that dg(x) = g'(x).dx? Not trolling, really: what is so spectacular about that?

  • @thaianotran3315
    @thaianotran3315 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    isn't d x^2 = 2x dx? so the integral becomes the integral from 0 to 1 of 2x^2 dx

  • @Nerdwithoutglasses
    @Nerdwithoutglasses 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    To those who say "why don't we use d(x^2)=2xdx or let u=x^2": surely you didn't read the title. Think twice or you will be r/wooooshed. This is not a place to show how good you are at "your calculus". Flammable Maths makes serious mathematic jokes, pay some respect.

  • @fahimnabeel606
    @fahimnabeel606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What about the product integral, where the dx is in power, does this apply there as well, or is that completely different

    • @diobrando7642
      @diobrando7642 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That doesn't sound rigorous

    • @fahimnabeel606
      @fahimnabeel606 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@diobrando7642 wdym?

  • @renomado8616
    @renomado8616 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

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