Martin D-28 Satin - Compared to Standard D-28

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  • @lylehutz
    @lylehutz ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I literally want to visit Montana just for this store.

  • @divineheartsworship6035
    @divineheartsworship6035 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you Paul for hand picking me the most gorgeous Martin HD35. It’s a dream bucket list guitar. Quinton you are also another big reason I bought from the Villa. Waiting for my hat and shirt signed by you two amazing souls!!! Keep Strumming!! Michael ❤

  • @melciveng
    @melciveng ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The video quality is brilliant guys btw

  • @uvp5000
    @uvp5000 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The Standard D28 has a more resonant soundboard. They're both nice instruments. If one wanted a D28, this is a good demonstration video.

  • @donhardeman1317
    @donhardeman1317 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Love my D 28 Standard. And like Quinton, I just love to bang it. It can take it better than any guitar I've played. Thanks guys, love this channel.

  • @texhaines9957
    @texhaines9957 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the satin finish. It is on the MV Martin Custom Shop 0000-28e I got a few years ago. This D-28 sounds great. Thanks, Quinton and Paul.

  • @ahill209
    @ahill209 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The satin sounds a bit brighter with oh, so little more clarity to me. I think you lose a bit of the low end volume on the satin. I'm a bit spoiled with my D-28 Marquis, though, with an adi top and East Indian Rosewood back and sides.

  • @brianlreynolds
    @brianlreynolds ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not sure what bridge pins are being used..... just replaced the liquid metal for bone on a D-28 MD and was surprised. The bone made the guitar come alive!
    You guys are great and always do a good job. Cheers!

    • @RwithGuitar
      @RwithGuitar ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I did the exact same thing on another Modern Deluxe guitar. I put bone on and the guitar to my ear was a whole lot better!

    • @brianlreynolds
      @brianlreynolds ปีที่แล้ว +2

      One of the Best guitars that I now own. I really think those liquid Metal bridge pins Suck....... the tone right out of the guitar.

  • @paulhendershott667
    @paulhendershott667 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I've always like the feel of the Satin finishes on the Martins. I hate always cleaning off fingerprints on the high gloss ones I own. My Favorite is the 000-15M with a satin finish and it's super lightweight, feels so good, and it has such a sweet sound that you can only get in the all mahogany guitars. I don't care for the printed on burst, to me it looks so fake because it's likely too uniform with no natural burst variations. Now I love the 000-16 StreetMaster look, feel, and sound as well. Hope to get one some day.

    • @gilh3947
      @gilh3947 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Aren't there more stains on satin that cannot be removed?

    • @artiseworks8030
      @artiseworks8030 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will agree with you on the burst color pattern. It is by far one of the worst I’ve ever seen on any guitar. I love and respect Martin Guitars as an industry leader of course. But, they seriously need to work on creating way more well blended burst coloration on these high end guitars

    • @paulhendershott667
      @paulhendershott667 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@artiseworks8030 I know, just look at that one hanging on the wall. It looks like it was shot on a cheap plastic guitar. That is the ugliest burst I ever saw... apologies to anyone reading this that owns one. I'm sure it sounds nice! It's funny that I didn't see any guitar with this burst pattern when I was at the Martin Factory back in June this year. Tons of D-18's, D-28's, HD-28's, 000-28's. 000-15M, lots with the cut-outs that I'm not sure of the model numbers, but none of these bursts. Maybe they are made somewhere else, or rightly "hidden" from the public! 😄😄😄😄

  • @gui-texzan7477
    @gui-texzan7477 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great comparison. I think I'll go for an HD-28 (some day).✌️

  • @deanmcbride8747
    @deanmcbride8747 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Yeah they sounded different. That d28 satin finish sounded a bit more brighter. The normal d28 was a little more muted. Interesting video. Dean 🇬🇧

  • @WoodworkerDan
    @WoodworkerDan ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I thought I'd like the satin better, but I actually prefer the tone of the standard. In some ways it sounds more open, and in other ways it sounds more reigned in.

    • @angelg8445
      @angelg8445 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      That’s one of the main reasons why you pay extra for a good quality gloss(nitro, or mix of poly). The gloss not only protects the guitar but it PROJECTS the sound. Martin should focus on improving quality of standard and custom series with scalloped bracing, instead of doing more gimmicks, stickers and “budget” models. Even variations or better quality 15 series would be better.

    • @Wiggi147
      @Wiggi147 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I fucking love your comment as a fellow attemptive honest groundbreaker and tone fiend 😫🤣🤪💪🤘

  • @CarlosCandidoMusic
    @CarlosCandidoMusic ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Do we know if Martin will go with the Satin treatment for 000-18/28’s next year, or in the near future?

  • @davidmotisko4552
    @davidmotisko4552 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Satin sounds killer !

  • @keestoft250
    @keestoft250 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I enjoy the struggle we have trying to use words to describe tone. Open, muted, warm, dry, woody, bright, reigned in, resonant etc. It's like describing taste, very subjective. 'Better' is my favourite in the comments so far.

  • @johncrane6673
    @johncrane6673 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    OK, I can actually hear the difference. However, both are excellent. So, I want the one that will help me play more like Quinton. Yet, another entertaining demo. Thanks.

  • @craigdiamond5518
    @craigdiamond5518 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Everyone hears things differently -- and no two guitars of the same model are ever exactly the same. That said, despite the supposedly lighterweight finish on the satin, the D-28 has a bit more volume (or Quinton is hitting it harder) and a much clearer and more open tone (top and bottom and a tad less mid). Would accept either as a gift from Villa! No complaints!! Happy to endorse!!!

  • @rosslynemrys5829
    @rosslynemrys5829 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You had me at D28 ❤ Prefer the full gloss sound imho

  • @bgolden99
    @bgolden99 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The specs listed on your web site describe the bracing pattern as "Forward Shifted 'X' Scalloped" for this model, but your verbal description on the video is Non-scalloped. Which is correct?

  • @divineheartsworship6035
    @divineheartsworship6035 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love it!

  • @Fronz05
    @Fronz05 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think I'm hearing that the Satin finish is louder but is that even humanly possible for the ear to hear that or is it Quinton's variable playing technique?

    • @quintonking9960
      @quintonking9960 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I like to think that I'm consistently variable in my playing :)

  • @modern.day.meditations
    @modern.day.meditations หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That standard D28 is unbeatable imo.

  • @1970sman
    @1970sman ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the sound of the Standard best, it is better bookmatched too. Shame as these days I prefer Satin finished guitars.

  • @onlinebarbecue2480
    @onlinebarbecue2480 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    It’s hard to say it makes that much of a difference. It’s only slightly lighter in weight. Satin is nice though. I can’t stand a printed distressed guitar I have no clue what they were thinking.

  • @MauriceCondie
    @MauriceCondie ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Prefer the standard. Like Dan not what I expected to say.

  • @thethoughtthatcountspodcas1581
    @thethoughtthatcountspodcas1581 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I thought I would love the satin finish - it comes across great in recordings but it does not sound good to me in person. The top is really sensitive to the picking of the strings, which is great for finger picking but if you’re using a pick and strumming it just sounds really different from what the gloss finish sounds like.

  • @joegarcia2323
    @joegarcia2323 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if Martin takes the opportunity to throw slightly less premium woods into these Satin versions vs the regular Standards

  • @roytube10
    @roytube10 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    great compare video! normally i prefer satin or natural but soundwise on this I would pick the standard. do both guitars have scalloped or non scalloped bracing? video and the specs in the description didn't match, or maybe i missed it?

    • @TheAcousticLetter
      @TheAcousticLetter  9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Both are non-scalloped.... description fixed.

  • @williss9995
    @williss9995 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love Martin guitars and applaud their effort to make them affordable.
    In addition it would be a huge plus to make them more articulate?

  • @startreker8591
    @startreker8591 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Love my old drs2 ( with fancy expensive Santa Cruz string medium tension)the first model,amongst…I refinished the top when some issues came up but did not return at gc…btw it end up distressed bec it wasn’t perfect duh under my lame finishing hand ( my dad was master😢)

  • @YourFavouriteColor
    @YourFavouriteColor ปีที่แล้ว +3

    hey man you're a great player and I'm a long-time viewer. I have a request. could you please play some more examples strumming on the soundhole? I believe this better demonstrates the "voice" of the acoustic. you play really far back most of the time. I hear more saddle than guitar.

    • @quintonking9960
      @quintonking9960 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Hi YFC - Will try to accommodate this request! I know I tend to pick shifted back - a habit I picked up after hearing somewhere (can't remember exactly where) that you can cut through an acoustic ensemble a little easier with the slightly brighter tone that comes from playing closer to the bridge, but fully appreciate the rounder, warmer tone that many prefer from a playing closer to/over the sound hole. Takes a conscious effort to adjust, but will absolutely try to switch it up - Thanks for watching!

    • @brooksphillips2234
      @brooksphillips2234 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@quintonking9960 that's awesome that you take his suggestion like that! I do agree with him too. I think a mixture of both playing styles strumming and picking would be great!

  • @joelaming6814
    @joelaming6814 ปีที่แล้ว

    Loving the tone without the gloss

  • @Fronz05
    @Fronz05 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey, I made it to one of your Top 5 watchers! Do I get a free D-26 or D-27? You are all the best! Thanks!!

  • @martinkleinman2522
    @martinkleinman2522 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I like the "regular" one, not the satin. Seems to have more umph/depth/fuller-sounding.

  • @asdfjklol
    @asdfjklol ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'd buy one if they offered this in 000 or OM size

    • @a.jseidner7904
      @a.jseidner7904 ปีที่แล้ว

      000-16 Streetmaster technically fits the bill, though it's the distressed looking type. Rosewood back and sides, Adirondack Spruce top, satin/streetmaster finish.

  • @gregweber3387
    @gregweber3387 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Both of these guitars sound pretty awesome! As you always know you'll get with a Martin guitar. I recently bought a Martin D-X2E and it is the first satin finish guitar I've owned and I really like it. Looks terrific and doesn't show all the fingerprints like the glossier guitar finishes often do.

    • @blissfulhumanoid9536
      @blissfulhumanoid9536 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’m planning on buying the Martin D-X2E in rosewood next week. But, I am also considering a D-28 by next early year. These types of investments require many visits to my local guitar shop in order to know for sure this guitar will be the most ideal one for me. How is your D-X2E doing? Are you still happy with it?

    • @gregweber3387
      @gregweber3387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@blissfulhumanoid9536, yes. After 4 months I'm still really pleased with it. A great guitar and very affordable at $649 at Sweetwater. Another nice guitar worthy of consideration may be the D-16E if you're wanting to move up to a D-28. I think the D-16E sonically is pretty close to the D-18 and D-28 guitar. It can be had in either mahogany or rosewood in the $1,900 range. I think it's a great compromise between the X and the standard D series guitars.

    • @artiseworks8030
      @artiseworks8030 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Got it thanks. The D-X2E would be my all around guitar. But, I honestly would never buy any guitar online. I would need to see it and actually feel it out in person. I tried out the D-16E and it was pretty good sounding, but not for me. The right guitar for anyone in general is rather subjective in my opinion. It’ll ultimately be a D-18, D-28, or even a D-35. This is why I like taking my time before making any type of serious investment. It’ll definitely be one of these for me by early next year.

    • @gregweber3387
      @gregweber3387 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@artiseworks8030, in the past year I bought 4 guitars. An Epipone Starling, then an Epiphone DR-100, a Yamaha Pacifica, and then the Martin D-X2E. All mainstream guitars; but I never found any of these guitars in stock at the Guitar Center here in Las Vegas. I mostly had to make my judgements based on reviews I read or saw on TH-cam. With the Martin, I was able to test out a D-X1E and a Road Series D-10E (one guitar below and above my D-X2E). Both felt pretty comfortable and sounded good. I opted for the D-X2E since it had the solid wood top and I felt was worth the $100 upgrade based on demos I saw comparing the two guitars online. Good luck with your guitar shopping.

    • @artiseworks8030
      @artiseworks8030 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you sharing your insights.@@gregweber3387

  • @jimmyhicks572
    @jimmyhicks572 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Definitely prefer satin to gloss though.

    • @zunif
      @zunif ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Gloss looks better on the ambertone

    • @CGDGCD
      @CGDGCD ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a 000-15m which has a satin finish. I love it but it does collect oils from you skin that are there for good. I don’t mind it but it’s something to be aware of.

  • @twinrock54
    @twinrock54 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I think the standard gloss finish version sounds better.

  • @jeffroberts9536
    @jeffroberts9536 9 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Much prefer the standard.

  • @Castely19xx
    @Castely19xx ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Gitar impian❤

  • @stevebernard221
    @stevebernard221 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Satin sounds harsher, almost Taylor like. I don't think it's due to the Satin finish though. The scalloped bracing will increase the bass response on the gloss. For me, the gloss wins...purely based on my sound preference. I'm sure in the room both sound great and have their place in the mix.

    • @joshs3905
      @joshs3905 ปีที่แล้ว

      So first off Talyor's (at least all that I've tried, including budget models) do not sound harsh at all lol, also the scalloped bracing is also incorrect. They both have the exact same construction. If you compare both of them side by side on Martin's website the only thing that changes is Satin vs Gloss. Which yes can create more bass response and sustain with a nice thick coat of nitrocellulose, but like all guitars it wears off with age. The satin version has a lighter coating of nitro and they don't give it the final buffing to gloss it out, making it look satin (matte). All guitars slowly open up over time which is a good thing, what Martin did was offer a guitar that sounds like it has already aged, if that makes sense. They can make it cheaper because it saves them an entire step in the factory for labor. So it's a win win for seller and buyer type of thing.

    • @stevebernard221
      @stevebernard221 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@joshs3905 Not sure why, but I tend to find the treble on most Taylor's too much for me....its clearly a sound preference. Now i will say, the older Taylors I have played (20+yrs) do sound more rounded on the treble, so maybe its an age or break in thing. If I purchased a Taylor, it would most likely be second hand. Either event, I have played the Gloss vs the Satin models here at the local shop, and I am not a fan of the Satin, they sound similar but for me my preference would be the gloss finish.

    • @joshs3905
      @joshs3905 ปีที่แล้ว

      For sure I get it, it's all a preference thing at the end of the day @@stevebernard221

  • @martinkleinman2522
    @martinkleinman2522 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    gloss finish wins. fuller sound. the matte finish sounds "stringy/more trebly" -- are the strings the same on both?

  • @ramspencer5492
    @ramspencer5492 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Satin finish definitely has a different way of the tone is focused.. Really open sounding. I really tend to enjoy it. Not hearing that much of a difference in this video though... Maybe Martin's standard finish is also pretty open sounding. Nitro... And all. I'm not all that thick.

  • @mariodriessen9740
    @mariodriessen9740 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Not much of a difference. Everytime I think I prefer one over the other I realise it’s more because of the playing and not because of the differences between the guitars. Having said that, no matter how close it is, I do think the glossy D-28 sounds a little more open to me. And when I read the other comments, I seem to be in a minority group óf connaisseurs here. But I really do feel the normal (glossy) one sounds slightly better. 😊

  • @ztornow
    @ztornow ปีที่แล้ว

    I’m not going to say one is better BUT I expected the satin to sound noticeably worse than it does. For the money, I think you are still getting a proper D28 even with a satin finish. Just my thoughts.

  • @iamdesimone
    @iamdesimone ปีที่แล้ว

    What’s the song at 4:34?

  • @bosse641
    @bosse641 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The Standard sounds better imo.

  • @GianoOudeis72
    @GianoOudeis72 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my opinion it is not cheap enough to choose it. Personally I would take it but all the herringbone binding is missing and this already annoys a lot. I think that a guitar like this to be competitive should cost just over 2000 euros. Otherwise I want the herringbone binding I want the antique white piping all the way up to the fingerboard up to the headstock and I want the same purfling on the back as on the standard D28, then maybe I'd be happy to save just 300 Euros; otherwise for me it makes no sense to have a guitar that could be much more beautiful but too neglected in the details. At this point I'd better take the standard one because there's absolutely nothing convenient except that those who make the factory save from working on it!!

  • @wheninroamful
    @wheninroamful ปีที่แล้ว +3

    It’s ‘painted’ on the StreetLegends, not ‘printed’. There are actual painting nozzles that spray paint on. Many are making sure to state the difference between this being painted not printed.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 ปีที่แล้ว

      Correct me if I’m wrong, but isn’t the process you just described exactly how an inkjet PRINTER works?

    • @wheninroamful
      @wheninroamful ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesbolton8471 I don't know, It's not a world I'm into; but i do know ink and paint are not the same thing and paint is used on these.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@wheninroamful
      You’re right paint and ink aren’t exactly the same thing. However, it interesting that on Martin’s own website in the description of this model they describe the top color as “Custom Ink”.

    • @wheninroamful
      @wheninroamful ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesbolton8471 Thanks, i'm more for 'The truth" than "Im right"... but yes, it is interesting that Martin's website says this. I'm including one of the first vids shot at Martin Museum/Factory on the StreetLegend with Tim Teel, Head of Instrument Design for Martin agreeing with Spoon Phillips that it is indeed painted on by "an amazing 21st century digital painter" And on one of the new podcast episodes Maury's Music, Spoon stressed that it's a painting from a digital painter.... Soooooo, I think the words are just being used interchangably and for most people, they are the same, but if you were going to buy one, you'd probably want to know 'The truth".... Good day and thanks again.
      th-cam.com/video/uJcGndeUA1o/w-d-xo.html

    • @wheninroamful
      @wheninroamful ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesbolton8471 Here you go, explained in detail at 21:00 mark:
      th-cam.com/video/bm12StSLAiM/w-d-xo.html

  • @tylerkitchen9089
    @tylerkitchen9089 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    If I’m buying a D-28, I’m buying what they’ve always been…. Gloss for me

  • @shanemartin2215
    @shanemartin2215 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The standard was smoother, allowing for more expression by the chosen notes. (yeah it's easy to do too many, but Martin loves to sing, slow it down sometimes, let it sing).

  • @walterstreet1467
    @walterstreet1467 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Satin is always better sounding to gloss 6:11

  • @billmorris6812
    @billmorris6812 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Sounds like the satin has newer settings

  • @voltaspeeder17
    @voltaspeeder17 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    It's a Standard for me. Why? Satin version sounds brighter and harsher, while standard comes across as really perfectly balanced to my ears. But I'm sure you can't go wrong with either one of them.

  • @chrisfoudoulis804
    @chrisfoudoulis804 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I can't wait to see an "aged" version of Willie Nelson's guitar!

  • @BobK5
    @BobK5 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Satin sounds more interesting to me

  • @jeffbeliew6568
    @jeffbeliew6568 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Standard sounds best to my ears

  • @revelry1969
    @revelry1969 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Just like Martin to print on the top of the guitar “faux” wear. They have/had those chince printed tort guard on a $3000 guitar. Come on Martin. It’s one thing to actually add physical wear. Now we are “printing” wear. Gawd. I like you guys a lot but don’t you think you need to tell Martin to stop this?

  • @mattstacy1652
    @mattstacy1652 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The satin doesn’t sound as good. The volume may be a fuzz more with the satin but it’s a rougher or raw sound loud? Really dry with not a ton of sustain. The other is much cleaner and even across the board. Which is normally the case. I’d die to have either but if I had the extra cash, I’d go with the shiny one! 😂

  • @XENONEZZ2
    @XENONEZZ2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    There was a big difference ....to my ears the satin has more definition, volume, and dynamics...:-))

  • @bigal25938
    @bigal25938 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why do those 2 guitars not have the ugly blond streaks on the fret board?

  • @jacobmorgenstein6788
    @jacobmorgenstein6788 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Went to buy a D28 and bought a J45

  • @MatthewNipper-d7c
    @MatthewNipper-d7c 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    000 in satin yes, not for a D28

  • @startreker8591
    @startreker8591 ปีที่แล้ว

    Revealed: printed amber tone😜…he’s not sure

  • @adamstewart247
    @adamstewart247 ปีที่แล้ว

    I feel like satin finished guitars sound better in the room but gloss records better

  • @timbucker
    @timbucker ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Less features for the same or more money...quantitative easing.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It is not. The satin models are $400 cheaper than the the gloss model.

    • @timbucker
      @timbucker ปีที่แล้ว

      @@charlesbolton8471 It is if the gloss model recently went up in price.

    • @charlesbolton8471
      @charlesbolton8471 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@timbucker
      I guess, but did the gloss version have a price increase? I don’t know.

  • @gr6914
    @gr6914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    satin finsish requires MORE, yes MORE solids to complete than a gloss finish. it weighs and costs more to do a satin finish. i will never understand this with guitar companies. the way nitro lacquer loses finish i.e. goes from gloss to mid to satin to flat is by ADDING weighed silicate to it.
    do no t be fooled

    • @rblanks2050
      @rblanks2050 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as a chemist who has analyzed these types of material you’re 100% correct here.

    • @gr6914
      @gr6914 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rblanks2050 i'm just a wood finisher... no chemist. but i feel like it makes much less of a difference one way or the other than we ought to think it does

    • @soofitnsexy
      @soofitnsexy ปีที่แล้ว

      whats your point??? the satin is cheaper

    • @gr6914
      @gr6914 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@soofitnsexy good point... they do sound about the same. i'm just talking semantics i suppose

    • @rblanks2050
      @rblanks2050 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      no point here other than reflecting that satin if applying same thickness would add mass. i dont know for certain but maybe the idea is satin can be applied thinner. i could see a satin finish might inpart some stiffness due to the solids. lots of variables.

  • @jimmycollette9209
    @jimmycollette9209 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Well it's not shinny. Couldn't have said it any better.