Cloud Defensive vs Modlite vs Surefire - Battle of the 18650 USA made lights
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 9 ก.พ. 2025
- Email these guys for Modlite and Surefire:
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Cloud:
www.clouddefen...
Modlite:
modlite.com/
Surefire:
www.surefire.com/
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I've been watching all your reviews and just now bought the Surefire EDC2 Turbo. I have been wrestling with which one to get, and your reviews pushed me to the Surefire. Thank you sir. You got yourself a new sub. Keep up the good work.
100% Surefire EDC2 dft, m64DFT pro turbo scout, and the x300 turbo are insane. My next flash light will be the modlite hog.
Best reviews on TH-cam, helped me decide to pick up an Elzetta (best of all my lights i've owned) and now I'm eyeballing the 21700 version of the Zebralight you reviewed, you really cover all the "soft" factors instead of just the hard stats which is often overlooked. keep up the great work man!
Nice to see you get ahold of some of the US-made throwers. Im a big SF fan, and the modlite stuff is nice too. But I have to admit that the Weltool LH1 has the nicest beam in this class. It's even better than the OKW.
Great video! Been waiting on a comparison between these US lights. I had nothing but issues with my cloud MCH also. Went back to modlite and had zero problems.
I’ve been wanting more content on these lights. Can you do any goonbeam videos too? Also, thanks for all the content!! Love your channel
I'm glad I never bought a Cloud Defensive light
Bro you can say that again. I finally threw in the towel and either sold all mine or sent them back to cloud. Miserable experience
Got the surefire turbo, really like it.
I’d love to see you test the HRT AWLS handhelds! They are a new comer, but put out pretty good specs for cheaper than other USA made lights.
the reason the surefire battery is taller is due to the added circuitry for the USB C charging port.
Just put the Modlite body on the Surefire head. That's how I run my light. I also use the Switchback 2.0.
How do you do that?
@@kev8370 They are compatible. You can also run the Surefire head + Weltool BB3 body + TC59 tailcap with a Switchback.
@@MrPoisony Wow, I didn't know it was that straightforward and simple. Thanks for the reply
I sadly got the MCH-HC with no prior knowledge of the flickering issue lol. Haven’t had any issues yet, but I’ll definitely keep an eye out for anything that comes up. Currently using mine with a switchback. Also threw some goontape around the body to help with the grip issue
Brand new out the box, I was not as impressed with the throw as I was initially hoping. I agree with your assessment in that it may not actually be 80k candela.
I am a big SureFire fan, I have their M340DFT on a rifle and I am always impressed with the throw and run time. I just hope thyrm makes a new switchback to accommodate the EDC2-DFT !
Super interested in checking out the Modlite. I like the deep carry clip. Seems like a nice handheld for every day carry.
Owner of two clouds here and haven’t had any flickering either. Have run many different batteries and dropped one of them onto concrete from waist height one time. Have had for a few months.
I’m looking for a good light to use with the switchback and have heard too many mixed things to confidently spend a few hundred dollars. Cloud and midlite have rocky reps and surefire makes kick ass lights, but I feel as if all of their best options aren’t switchback compatible. Might just grab the sig handheld and call it a day for a third of the price 🤷🏼♂️
I own two clouds, micro and full size mch hc and never experienced any flickering. Have run both with many different batteries. One interesting thing though, my full size came with a much warmer led. Micro was the ~6000k I expected but the full size is more in the 4000-4500k range. Definitely a nice surprise as I definitely prefer warmer lights. I almost think it ended up with the edc led by mistake. They both have the same beam profile otherwise.
It came out before the new Surefire turbo series lights. It’s comparable to the 700 lumen 100,000 candela Surefire
Very good review and testing.
Have you heard of Atibal AI-2? It’s been around for a few years but doesn’t have any videos online for it other than one TH-camr. It’s rated at 700 lumens and 90,000 candela. I bought two of the light heads and they are amazing
Surefire beam looks like an sst40....winner for sure.
Definitely not an SST40. What is it exactly, not sure. Some have said an Cree XPP. Which will make sense given the specs.
@jonathancaldentey4615 you definitely don't know what your talking about...save your comments chud
@@jonathancaldentey4615 I would have guessed a CSLNM1, but I have yet to confirm. The small flat emitters are starting to blur together. Maybe @flashlightcrazy can ID it for us.
Triton cottons flashlight retention ring, screws right on just about any 1 inch ish flashlight frame,and made of 6160 aluminum......for my surefire,and any other flashlight i carry.cost under 20 bucks ta up yer flashlight.....amazon.
If I were about to spend that money on a light for the specific use these were designed for then I'd get the surefire. I'm pretty happy with what I currently have even though it lacks some of the capability of the surefire, but that is a nice light. I wouldn't consider the cloud at all and even the modlite doesn't have a particularly tremendous reputation for reliability that I would demand from a light at that price point. I think if it weren't for the social media tactical influencers pushing people towards cloud and modlite then nobody would be buying them.
Convoy m21a is a far better thrower for WAY less money and it has a 21700 cell.
@@caydengonzales5495 yea it is, but it's also much larger, has a more complicated UI and isn't built to the quality levels of the surefire. These lights are purpose built for serious, professional use (at least that's what the manufacturers claim); they're not hobbyist lights. For casual use any gee whiz bright light may be fine, and many manufacturers make those, but the use case here is different. The surefire isn't a thrower; it's a pocket sized tactical flashlight made to be used when lives may depend on it.
Been using midnight for the past 5 years . Still running strong .. modlites are tanks … I’ve dropped it countless times, been run over for a vehicle once, and used for 5 years scratched to my kit for work. I would say modlite is VERY reliable … just my experience!
Also, the surefire are nice, but with 100k candela it’s honestly too much throw for a handheld. The modlites are much better for handhelds. Cloud defensive is garbage, I’ve have 2 and both failed in first few months.
@@callofduty60 convoy s6 is a good thrower that's SUPER cheap l. And it's on Amazon
@@callofduty60 modlite is hit or miss. For as many people who have good experiences, I've heard just as many bad ones. If you get a good one then great, but they still don't have the reputation of surefire.
No Olight?
😂😅😂😅😂😅😂😅
Better options out there ....nextorch...acebeam..wuben...nitecore
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No. They make some brighter lights, but not better for the purpose these lights are made for. Wuben is very low quality and shouldn't even be mentioned in the same conversation as any of the other lights.
Those might be brighter, but they’re not necessarily better, bro.
Put any of those in actual duty hard use. No. They are not “better”.
@@KnifeNinjaEDC incorrect...chudboy
Flickering cloud light...lol😂