2ND GEN SWAP YOUR CUMMINS FACTORY TURBO!! WHY??
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 7 ก.ย. 2024
- What is a 2nd Gen Swap, how big of a Turbo can you go, is it healthy for your truck , what does it sound like, will it make more power , what does it drive like , how much does it cost , are they reliable and finally when are you planning on SWAPING TO A 2ND GEN TURBO KIT? We Answer all these question on our personal shop truck a 2015 4TH Gen 6.7L Cummins with a Custom 2nd Gen Turbo Kit.
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Really glad I found this channel, I’m new to ram but have fell in love with my 4th gen 6.7! I will def be doing a second gen swap! Thanks for the clean cut, down to business video. I appreciate the info!
Thank you sir for the feedback helps us know what you guys want to see!
This video made my day seeing the 870 number, the motherland!
Ty Brown Thank you for the support !!
Thats the best damn sounding 6.7 ive ever heard
Choyah Keith Appreciate it sir !
Nice vid. I appreciate the info. Seen a bunch of people doing the swap but no one explaining it.
Gary Kerney thank you for the feedback sir we appreciate it!
Man cummins has always been my favourite
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Put turbo on the position and it won’t be stuffed in the bottom it may not work for you unless you have a 3 Gen I just flip the steed spend manifold and turbo is in the high position if you are thinking about going with two turbos you may have to leave it down low for room for second turbo .
Then theres me towing with my 01 24v with an s472
How’s that light up? I ordered a 468
I have a 2014 6.7L Cummins. It's my daily driver but I also pull a trailer every weekend. My turbo actuator is out and I'm looking for options as far as power and long term investment. I have 114K miles.
What transmission sir ? And is the exhaust break a must to keep ?
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE Stock transmission, not Aisin. Exhaust brake comes in handy for my tow. Even considering a compound turbo kit.
This is all cool stuff, and I understand the performance gains. But what I don't understand is why guys want to take away one of the best things about these rams, the exhaust brake. Which is hands down the best out of the 3.
There are good options for more air and a better more reliable turbo then ditching the VGT and losing your exhaust brake.
I've also seen several trucks with over 200000 miles with the stock VGT turbo.
Improvement are always good, but not at the expense of losing a particular worth while function.
Exhaust brakes can be added to the exhaust.
The exhaust brake is dumb lol
@chrisnoble8887 not if you tow lots with it. Dumb thing is engine braking should have been done 20 years ago on these trucks, just like big rigs. The real stupid thing is some semi's don't have them. Guess it comes down to what you use your truck for, truck stuff or city boy stuff.
@@curtisbull1583except big rigs have actual jack brake systems…. The VGT is just an expensive carbon trap…
@chrisnoble8887 true, although guys that use the exhaust brake (VGT) all the time and use the truck how it was ment to be used, not a grocery getter, rarely have issues with them, being deleted helps a good bit as well.
I would appreciate if y’all made a video about the inline exhaust brake for people with a second gen swap manifold.
Appreciate the input sir !
I am Biased to the 3rd Gen and thats it......F*** Everything Else..........Definitely going with the 2d Gen Swap
Amen!
either those are some really really.....really long right turns or an alignment is in the near future. haha. Great video. i can't wait to get my ram 3500 to start modding........and making sure it's epa compliant of course.
Can’t wait to swap mine
Seth Righi we ready for ya sir !!
unfortunately i have h&s with custom tunes .no support anymore
would love to do this
GrilledCheeseMouth people are still writing tunes
Efi live cost 850$ and it's way better because you can get rewrites easily.
Nice video quality and good information
I’ve got a 5th gen. I love the exhaust brake feature of the VGT and don’t want to give it up for when I’m towing heavy. Do you think the VGT could be repositioned to the 2nd gen location like in this video? I like the accessibility and more efficient flow setup.
Also, does a 2nd gen swap like this get rid of the hot 5 & 6 cylinders from having the turbo stuffed down in the back of the engine bay?
Yes it does help a lot every thing is equal distance and a Fleece bypass works great too !
A actual exhaust break will blow your mind the vgt on the 6.7 is cool but the stock turbo compared to the 99 to 01 cummins is horrible
You guys are awesome, great info
Wheelin N’ Dealin Thank you !
If I went 2nd gen swap I'd want a exhaust brake kit from fleece
We’ve heard only great things about them!
I have a 2012 ram 3500 SRW 6spd g56 . I don’t tow anything except for a bout like once a year . I want to do a 2 gen swap with a S467 . Will this setup make it sound like a semi when I shift ?? There is a video on TH-cam if a 2 gen shifting and sounds just like a semi is absolutely amazing!!!!
Yes sir ! Get that throttle right when your racing and it will !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE thank you , but does it matter if I have a wastegated turbo or not ?
@@_WELDR_ It Does not sir you just need a “ non VGT turbo “
Do you ever recommend a twin turbo setup for towing? I currently have a 06 truck with an 08 6.7 swap, G56, 2nd gen turbo swap, steed speed manifold with a S467 turbski. I bought the truck set up like this, and for the most part love it. I'm looking quicker spool up. Thanks for any advice.
The only downside to what your saying is there is no way to retain the factory exhaust brake.
Your right, but hell for another 1200 you get a Bd exhaust brake that uses your factory switch on the dash
Correct
POINTBLANK PERFORMANCE or you could retain your stock valley charger and add another charger for compounds
Can I get a link to a second gen swap, must keep exhaust break.
I miss that sound at 1:58. 4th gen and 5th gen stock.... it’s absence is deeply missed.😕
Rick Rodriguez 🙌🙌
Is that from the big turbo or the second gen swap🤔🤔🤔
@@jessegray4819 , I remember on my second gen when I added the Banks outlet and the turbo back exhaust I would get that. So pretty much stock you could get the sound.
Great investment👍
Thank you sir !
Are aftermarket exhaust brakes as strong as a stock VGT exhaust brake?
We’ve never used them sir .
I thought about 2nd gen swapping mine.. but idk if I want to lose exhaust brake
PAC Brake makes one you can plumb in !
Why in this video you didn’t have ARP headstuds? If I installed a S472 turbo. How soon should I get headstuds?
On the 72mm I would immediately . On a 67 with stock fuel we rarely put studs in sir .
Sweet set up! What colour powder on the turbo?
Check out @BlackLabelcoatings
What I need to.
How did you retune it for the swap, my wehrli s467.7 is gonna be here in a few weeks and i have no idea where to retune it, i’m setup with ezlynk and was wondering if i just send that out or what, would you be able to help me out?
Absolutely if you can email us at PBPMOTORSPORTS@Gmail.com we will get you helped sir.
Not to mention the tone of a 6.7 with that stupid manifold barf barf barf
Would u guys recommend studs and a lift pump
Yes sir for any stock cp3 that is turned up on a 4th or 5th Gen ram . Studs for anything 2nd Gen swap is a good ideal but you don’t have to sir!
Can you keep the exhaust break with a 2nd gen swap?
clean 👌🏼
Zackery Biesinger Thank you sir !
Y’all also do compound setups?
Im a bit uninformed when it comes to 2nd gen swaps, but I really want to do one the more I dig into it. I have a '12 with 157,kkk miles, brand new hg with 625 studs, tuned with a torque tech, and it has a dual disc clutch. Sinister deletes. It's been a workhorse pulling, and I'd like to be able to have that option yet. And still have my exhaust brake.
What setup do you recommend I do, and what other mods would you consider?
Thank you
Personally if you want to keep the exhaust brake then I would recommend a fleece cheeta !! They work well for that application sir !
POINTBLANK PERFORMANCE thanks for the quick reply!
@@ropinandranchin Yes sir anytime !!!
Second gen swap it and install either a BD, Banks or PAC Brake inline exhaust brake. Problem solved.
You loose your exhaust brake with the swap though. I guess there are other options for that too
Correct sir
Fleece has an s400 exhaust brake for about $1800 that works with the dash controls
would like a low power setup.
like 400hp
i have
stock head bolts
stock transmission with custom tune.
tunes for stock truck really .
with 5.9 sounds tunes.
with some pieces missing 😉
using h&s
We can build a kit for the power level sir.
need to watch the road lol
No hands !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE lol
How long does it take to do a 2nd gen swap on 2018 plus cummins ?
Why is your steering wheel cranked to the right?
Late on getting it to the alignment shop !
Can you low mout the turbo on the swap instead of up top like an artard
Yes sir you can
Do y’all do 2nd gen swaps on 5th gens yet?
th-cam.com/video/puJpbcR-wx0/w-d-xo.html
Your website does not offer any turbo packages?
Yes sir , we don’t offer online sells for turbo kits. Just phone order for now sir!
what are you using for a coolant reroute for the coolant stand pipe?
Link to your headlights and tail lights???
Unfortunately all the (big name companies) can’t provide a solid product so we don’t want to give out any info on this sir. I do apologize.
What’s the wheel tire suspension on that truck ?
3” carli , 24x14 and 305s!
Where do we get a list of all your products ? Website ?
Coming soon in 21 sir , we apologize the website has been on the back burner. If there is anything in particular your interested in please let us know we will be more than happy to email , text or call you ! Sorry again !
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE I can wait it's winter in Michigan. I will be doing dual cp3 , injectors, compound turbos and a cam in the spring and I like how you put it all in a package . I'll be getting hold of you in March for positive.
@@twinntibbsdiesel7141 Thank you sir we appreciate it!! Looking forward to it!
About how long does it take to install?
im like 90% sure itll take around 6-9 hours to do
Easy install , set aside 6 hours for a first time install.
What turbo do you recommend for a 2015 g56
What’s your Hp goal ?
Why ain’t the steering wheel straight LMFAO
When your running behind on time 🤣
Is this possible with a 5th gen?
Yes sir we have a 21 Ram on the channel.
I have a 07 6.7 2wd and I just wanna know how much money do I have to spend?
Mario Espinal Depending on the kit and turbo specs we have kits from 2 to 4K sir.
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE you have a page online that I can look?
are you always turning right, or too lazy to get a proper alignment after the lift and tires? sheesh
Hal always turning right 🤘
It’s not that hard to adjust the drag link for the steering wheel
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE What about 2012 ? I am up to 90,000 so I could be living on the edge ?
@@gxs1100g Stud the head and do a swap ! We have nothing but issues out of the 07 to 12 cummins with the stock head bolts. Many factors go into the gasket failing so we don’t want start naming things but studs and turbo she will be ready to roll!
What size lift and tires are on this trucks it looks so awesome
Jacob Kringer 3” leveling kit (Carli ) and 305 sir they come out to like 32s on 24s.
POINTBLANK PERFORMANCE thank you it looks sweet and sounds awesome can’t wait to second gen sway my 6.7
Jacob Kringer Thank you brother we appreciate it!!! And when it’s time give us a holler see if we can help you out we would like to earn your business !
Is it a 6 or 7 blade billet wheel?
6 Blade sir
Can you swap a 5th gen?
Nicholaus Thomson yes we can and also swapping to a CP3 is in the works !!
Of course ya can! I can get you a full kit to swap your 5th gen! 🤙🤙
2 bad its not stick
Now that tuners have gone the way of the dinosaur, I'm wondering; do I need a tune to make this work on my 2016? IF my truck was already fully deleted and had only a simple tune, would putting this on throw her into limp mode? Would it throw a check engine code?
Thanks in advance to anyone who might have an answer for me. Asking for a friend.
Jeffrey Barker yes sir you will need a different fuel mapping for a non VGT turbo . They will spool very slow if not .
@@POINTBLANKPERFORMANCE Thank you for the quick and heartbreaking reply! Loved your video!
Jeffrey Barker Anytime sir thank you
Where is your shop
How much