Great no BS review Giz thats what I like about you to the point . I really love that they made T1 bigger such a great FPV platform my only gripe is the price $460 Canadian other then that looking forward to your next video Take Care
Excellent review thanks a lot! The glide test with full flaps was really interesting, I noticed you went down to 26km/h and did not stall. Very impressive and could be very useful
I got mine for review and did first test flights.....it does fly on rails for sure....I will post my video of it Freestyle, Chasing a F01 and some cruise. It loves to just Glide with a mild decent. Can confirm Ridder seems durable, as I stuffed it in a tree and nothing wrong with Rudder...and yes Rudder seems very docile...it works but just not aggressive enough. Great vid Giz 🤘😎🤘
I'm hyped to see your video man. Unlike me and my gentle baby flying, I'm sure you really slung yours about and really put it through its paces lol. Good to hear your experiences with the rudder was the same as mine (confirms I didn't do something wrong lol), and that's a impressive flight time! Weird coincidence that you're running the exact same battery setup, I'm looking forward to doing some endurance testing on my next flight
@@gizfpv horizon and acro both use stabilized control, reliant on the PIDFF loop, on my rudder planes, I really have had to crank P and FF up on rudder. With such a large control surface, I'd think it would have a lot of yaw authority. I have been looking around for my next plane, but I've gotta have a good rudder.
I've loved your videos since the efx with fc video. "Split flaps" aren't much different than "plain flaps" that we commonly use in rc stuff and work fine IMO. The other 2 forms of flaps don't really make it into fpv rc stuff. That's going to be a really solid large cruiser and vtol platform, I like it. Haven't seen that kind of battery space since my Killer Whale. Great video!
Damm, you've been here a while if you started with the EFX video lol. Yeah I reckon the T2 has the potential to be a excellent and efficient long range flyer. That's probably why Heewing call it the Cruza lol
I just found it a couple years ago, still fly mine but with a 5500 4s battery and 2820 1250kv motor. gets me close to 13 minutes in the air hauling butt, quietly. Glad to see your videos going again! @@gizfpv
Thanks Giz for this and the previous video. I really like the look of this, although I am still on the fence a little on the price. I am really keen to see what VTOL goodness they come up with, that may make it even more compelling. I do think I'll need to build a 6S2P 21700 cell battery for this if I do go for one, just to balance it! Great video, love the say it as it is style.
On my last flight with the Phoenix2400, the glider wanted slightly turn to the right. I was noticing that the artificial hozizon was just a tiny bit off from the natural. At home I measured the wing line against the fc reading and it was nearly 2.0 deg off. This might have been the result of some landings in higher weeds. This stressed the wing section where the fc mounting plate is. I simple adjustment did it, straight again....
If your plane looses altitude in a stabilized mode, it's NOT the CoG. It's simply the Flightcontroller Levelling needs some adjustment. The CoG you have to test in manual mode. Same with the Rudder, you cannot see its efficiency when flying in Horizon Mode, because the ailerons counteract the roll moment. Test it in manual, or at least in a stabilized curve, to see if usable. And the flaps are not there to gain altitude, the main reason is to lower the speed. I see the speed going down drastically, which is a good sign. I just miss that you mention this :-) Nice plane, I also ordered one. Very curious how it flies, and how far I can go with it!
Loss of altitude when hands off the sticks could be a CG issue, although admittedly the aircraft would need to be very nose heavy. I agree it's more likely to be due to the FC accelerometer calibration and pitch offset setting, which is what I was trying to allude to in the video. As for the rudder, you may be right about horizon mode, however on the bench I've done some testing today and there's no more rudder movement in acro mode than there is in horizon mode. So Idk, will need to actually test in flight. Shelby says he noticed his rudder also didn't have much authority either though, and as far as I know he's flying full manual without a FC 🤷
Great check list of tests, and flight debriefing Giz. With the glide test, I noticed airspeed was much lower than when did the flap tests. 23-40 km/h glide vs 50-85 km/h with flap tests. Was a bit surprised at how slow, and still had great handling. With the initial flap test, seemed each increase in flaps decreased airspeed by 15 km/h. A great feature for making slow landings with a larger plane. Nice to see the amps dropped from 10A to ~2A when power reduced from 78% to 40%. This means a very signifiant gain in flight duration could be had based on speed and power setting choices. Regarding the rudder and the yaw wag, if possible, I'd suggest using a rear facing camera to investigate what the rudder deflection looks like in the air. It could also reveal how much the rudder is moving in flight. I would have expected to see more rudder authority than was demonstrated. For the turning tendency, one wing being heavier, a wing having more drag, or an aileron out of alignment could cause it to have a turn tendency. Also if the rudder is not centred, it can cause a hands-off turning tendency. Might just need a tad of trim? Being larger and more stable, a gentle consistent turn is likely more noticeable than a light plane that would have random roll pattern as encountered any bit of air turbulence.
The props are counter rotating, so it's not a torque issue. Could be a pid issue, could be a physical issue with the fact the rudder on mine isn't quite built perfectly (as it's the prototype), or it could be something to do with differential thrust. I'm going to investigate it further over the weekend
Hello Friend! I recently bought a t2 cruise and it's a really effective and quiet plane..but also slow (especially when climbing). I wanted to ask you what propellers should I put on it to speed it up a bit? Should I try some 9 inch propellers? I know I can't get too much, but I don't expect to either. It currently has 8055 size propellers and 730kv sunnysky 2216 motors
Thank you for the review! Since it seems so well designed for easy assembly and take apart for travel - Do you know they will sell it with a nice carry-transport case? I am really looking for that in my next fixed wing.
Great video. You're doing a really good job of convincing me I need one of these things in my life. Since they're already selling at full price, I'll probably wait until they get in people's hands and Heewing figures out what minor updates they need to make like they did on the T1, but it sure does look like a nice flying plane and the foam they use is rock solid. It does look to fly at the speed of smell, though. 35kmh for 40% throttle? Given you were only pulling 25A combined at full throttle, there's probably plenty of headroom to put a higher pitch prop on than whatever they sent you, but who knows what kv/pitch combo they'll settle on, with a motor that's a little longer than the prototype setup, too.
Yeah it's certainly not a fast aircraft. I guess you could try a higher pitched prop, however i'm guessing they've designed this aircraft to be a slow but economical long range endurance cruiser (hence the name cruza). Will be interesting to see what it's like on 6s motors. I believe Heewing are gonna send me some at some point, but chances are paying customers will have their T2's first so can gauge from them what it's like
@@gizfpv I don’t know what kind of motors JustFPV had on his (I think he said he doesn’t know either lol, they definitely weren’t the same as yours) but he did his video on 6S and it was maybe faster but… not by much. At 75% throttle he was still only doing something like 60kph. He kept the throttle pretty high the whole time so it’s hard to compare but it still seemed pretty docile. Then again if your motors were specced for 4S and his for 6S it stands to reason his would be 2/3 the kv of yours and perform the same except at a higher voltage and lower current. I guess we’ll find out when the final spec starts hitting people’s doorstep. And yeah if they are calling it a “Cruza” it makes sense it’s not a rocket ship but 35kph is still shockingly slow to me. I still want one though haha.
at 14:29 you mentioned you flying at high throttle, but the amp draw only 8A. Could be due to cause it's setup for 6S but you are using 4S, so more throttle required, but in this case it's also under-prop hence the low amp draw.
The final version of the T2 (the one that you can buy yourself) will be setup for 6s, however the prototype version that I have is very much only setup for 4s. The motors and ESC's on mine are only 4s compatible
Where's those T2 cruza videos!!!😂 didn't get mine yet , but they told me the other day George is satisfied with the final mold and electronics and hopefully by the 15th they start shipping, so hopefully I get the T2 and my walksnail goggles x at the same time 🙏 🤲
Love yer vids, you're very entertaining and honest 😉 I have the T1 and although it's the fugliest of my planes, it does things pretty well. I've tried to beat my PB distance out record using 2x 5000 21700 packs but with all that weight it ain't so efficient. I can imagine this new one can carry a lot🤔 Have you tried a Dolphin yet? Feckin fantastic planes and go forever on 10,000mah of 4s 21700's😉 Keep up the grand work (Drambuidhe ) NZ.
I haven't tried a dolphin yet no, however I've heard from many sources that it's apparently a great aircraft. Hopefully will get to try one at some point :)
You probably said this, but I was wondering what the range is electronically. How far can it get away from you before it can't detect home and keeps flying away?
Motors I currently have are Sunnysky 2212 980kv, and they're paired with 8" props. The final version of the T2 will have slightly different motors though
Hey, yes I'm flying 4s. My T2 was sent to me by HeeWing months before the official release and it's the prototype. My version is only 4s compatible, however the official versions you can now buy are 6s compatible
@@gizfpv thanks for the reply. I just ordered mine. So i will have to get new batteries as well. :( I was hoping it will run on 4s as that's my current stock of LiPo's
That might be true, however even in acro mode the yaw authority seems very minimal and similar tbf. Shelby has also said the rudder on his seems to have little effect (and as far as i know he doesn't even have a fc on his T2), so idk. Will investigate further next time I fly
I really really don’t like the fact it’s going to use 6s packs. 4s seems to be the standard cell count for fpv planes this size. This adds to the cost now buying large capacity 6s Lion packs or 6s Lipos.
It seems to fly absolutely fine on 4s and has plenty of power, so yeah I'm not sure what the reasoning is for making the final version a 6s. Faster maybe? 🤷
@@sr-prod there's not really any such thing as a "4S" or "6S" motor (obviously within reason). Motors generally burn out due to too high current. Turning 8" props at 6S would need a really low kv on motors that small, which is pretty rare. They don't advertise what the kv is on the motors that will come with it, or what pitch the props are, but my guess is that it will be a pretty standard 4S configuration.
@@gizfpv I'm guessing it's just because most ESCs these days are at least 6S capable so why not advertise it. I have to assume the motor kv and prop pitch will be sized for 4S.
T1 have 2 drastic faults, very aggressive stall with nasty wing drop and rerally hard to lock the heading, its always trying to turn, hard to keep heading, looks like this problem persists and its TERRIBLE!
It's a possibility. As I said in the video, the design of the rudder on my T2 isn't perfect and it'll be different on the final version of the T2. Could be that the rudder isn't stiff enough on mine, which is causing the side to side waggle. Alternatively it could be a problem with the programming, have had a few suggestions that I need to investigate
Great no BS review Giz thats what I like about you to the point . I really love that they made T1 bigger such a great FPV platform my only gripe is the price $460 Canadian other then that looking forward to your next video
Take Care
I do make a extra effort to try to keep my reviews honest and straight to the point, so I appreciate you noticing :)
Excellent review thanks a lot!
The glide test with full flaps was really interesting, I noticed you went down to 26km/h and did not stall. Very impressive and could be very useful
The poweer consumption is amazing for that size of plane almost the same as the T1
I got mine for review and did first test flights.....it does fly on rails for sure....I will post my video of it Freestyle, Chasing a F01 and some cruise.
It loves to just Glide with a mild decent.
Can confirm Ridder seems durable, as I stuffed it in a tree and nothing wrong with Rudder...and yes Rudder seems very docile...it works but just not aggressive enough.
Great vid Giz 🤘😎🤘
I'm hyped to see your video man. Unlike me and my gentle baby flying, I'm sure you really slung yours about and really put it through its paces lol. Good to hear your experiences with the rudder was the same as mine (confirms I didn't do something wrong lol), and that's a impressive flight time! Weird coincidence that you're running the exact same battery setup, I'm looking forward to doing some endurance testing on my next flight
Thanks Buddy for the freakin awesome flight footage and review, cannot wait to receive mine!
The T1 is also an excellent glider when I accidentally disarmed mid-flight one time she glad it all the way to the ground & a soft Landing
I confirm the way it flies ... very nice! But the Rudder seems to have more effect in my flights!
Really? That's interesting. Shelby said he found his rudder seems docile like mine too
@@gizfpv try putting the rudder to manual yaw instead of stabilized yaw. Will point that out in the next video
@@JustFPV-net I've already tried that. Doesn't seem to be any difference, rudder moves the same amount in both horizon or acro mode 🤷
@@gizfpv that’s strange ,,, I know I’ve enjoyed yawing around with the rudder after it wasn’t inverted anymore haha
@@gizfpv horizon and acro both use stabilized control, reliant on the PIDFF loop, on my rudder planes, I really have had to crank P and FF up on rudder. With such a large control surface, I'd think it would have a lot of yaw authority. I have been looking around for my next plane, but I've gotta have a good rudder.
I've loved your videos since the efx with fc video. "Split flaps" aren't much different than "plain flaps" that we commonly use in rc stuff and work fine IMO. The other 2 forms of flaps don't really make it into fpv rc stuff. That's going to be a really solid large cruiser and vtol platform, I like it. Haven't seen that kind of battery space since my Killer Whale. Great video!
Damm, you've been here a while if you started with the EFX video lol. Yeah I reckon the T2 has the potential to be a excellent and efficient long range flyer. That's probably why Heewing call it the Cruza lol
I just found it a couple years ago, still fly mine but with a 5500 4s battery and 2820 1250kv motor. gets me close to 13 minutes in the air hauling butt, quietly. Glad to see your videos going again! @@gizfpv
Thanks Giz for this and the previous video. I really like the look of this, although I am still on the fence a little on the price. I am really keen to see what VTOL goodness they come up with, that may make it even more compelling. I do think I'll need to build a 6S2P 21700 cell battery for this if I do go for one, just to balance it! Great video, love the say it as it is style.
Nice summary. Thank You!
Great video, but they must be pissed at that price, plus 6s batteries become even more expensive
I'm running 2- 3300-4s packs hitting CG and ran 56 mins last night😮
On my last flight with the Phoenix2400, the glider wanted slightly turn to the right. I was noticing that the artificial hozizon was just a tiny bit off from the natural. At home I measured the wing line against the fc reading and it was nearly 2.0 deg off. This might have been the result of some landings in higher weeds. This stressed the wing section where the fc mounting plate is. I simple adjustment did it, straight again....
If your plane looses altitude in a stabilized mode, it's NOT the CoG. It's simply the Flightcontroller Levelling needs some adjustment. The CoG you have to test in manual mode. Same with the Rudder, you cannot see its efficiency when flying in Horizon Mode, because the ailerons counteract the roll moment. Test it in manual, or at least in a stabilized curve, to see if usable.
And the flaps are not there to gain altitude, the main reason is to lower the speed. I see the speed going down drastically, which is a good sign. I just miss that you mention this :-)
Nice plane, I also ordered one. Very curious how it flies, and how far I can go with it!
Loss of altitude when hands off the sticks could be a CG issue, although admittedly the aircraft would need to be very nose heavy. I agree it's more likely to be due to the FC accelerometer calibration and pitch offset setting, which is what I was trying to allude to in the video. As for the rudder, you may be right about horizon mode, however on the bench I've done some testing today and there's no more rudder movement in acro mode than there is in horizon mode. So Idk, will need to actually test in flight. Shelby says he noticed his rudder also didn't have much authority either though, and as far as I know he's flying full manual without a FC 🤷
Great check list of tests, and flight debriefing Giz.
With the glide test, I noticed airspeed was much lower than when did the flap tests. 23-40 km/h glide vs 50-85 km/h with flap tests. Was a bit surprised at how slow, and still had great handling. With the initial flap test, seemed each increase in flaps decreased airspeed by 15 km/h. A great feature for making slow landings with a larger plane. Nice to see the amps dropped from 10A to ~2A when power reduced from 78% to 40%. This means a very signifiant gain in flight duration could be had based on speed and power setting choices.
Regarding the rudder and the yaw wag, if possible, I'd suggest using a rear facing camera to investigate what the rudder deflection looks like in the air. It could also reveal how much the rudder is moving in flight. I would have expected to see more rudder authority than was demonstrated.
For the turning tendency, one wing being heavier, a wing having more drag, or an aileron out of alignment could cause it to have a turn tendency. Also if the rudder is not centred, it can cause a hands-off turning tendency. Might just need a tad of trim? Being larger and more stable, a gentle consistent turn is likely more noticeable than a light plane that would have random roll pattern as encountered any bit of air turbulence.
So glad i pre-ordered when it was 288$ can't wait for mine to come in
Damn, what a fantastic airplane, dude! Awesome flying!!! 😃
Now I want to see the vtol even more!!! 😂
Stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊
You forgot to mention the magnet slots for the hatch. It looks like they have added slots to help with the latch issue.
Thankyou for shared
Yeah could be P factor causing difference in rudder control from left to right. Are both props turning in the same direction or counter rotating?
The props are counter rotating, so it's not a torque issue. Could be a pid issue, could be a physical issue with the fact the rudder on mine isn't quite built perfectly (as it's the prototype), or it could be something to do with differential thrust. I'm going to investigate it further over the weekend
Hello Friend! I recently bought a t2 cruise and it's a really effective and quiet plane..but also slow (especially when climbing). I wanted to ask you what propellers should I put on it to speed it up a bit? Should I try some 9 inch propellers? I know I can't get too much, but I don't expect to either.
It currently has 8055 size propellers and 730kv sunnysky 2216 motors
Thank you for the review!
Since it seems so well designed for easy assembly and take apart for travel - Do you know they will sell it with a nice carry-transport case? I am really looking for that in my next fixed wing.
Great video. You're doing a really good job of convincing me I need one of these things in my life. Since they're already selling at full price, I'll probably wait until they get in people's hands and Heewing figures out what minor updates they need to make like they did on the T1, but it sure does look like a nice flying plane and the foam they use is rock solid.
It does look to fly at the speed of smell, though. 35kmh for 40% throttle? Given you were only pulling 25A combined at full throttle, there's probably plenty of headroom to put a higher pitch prop on than whatever they sent you, but who knows what kv/pitch combo they'll settle on, with a motor that's a little longer than the prototype setup, too.
Yeah it's certainly not a fast aircraft. I guess you could try a higher pitched prop, however i'm guessing they've designed this aircraft to be a slow but economical long range endurance cruiser (hence the name cruza). Will be interesting to see what it's like on 6s motors. I believe Heewing are gonna send me some at some point, but chances are paying customers will have their T2's first so can gauge from them what it's like
@@gizfpv I don’t know what kind of motors JustFPV had on his (I think he said he doesn’t know either lol, they definitely weren’t the same as yours) but he did his video on 6S and it was maybe faster but… not by much. At 75% throttle he was still only doing something like 60kph. He kept the throttle pretty high the whole time so it’s hard to compare but it still seemed pretty docile. Then again if your motors were specced for 4S and his for 6S it stands to reason his would be 2/3 the kv of yours and perform the same except at a higher voltage and lower current. I guess we’ll find out when the final spec starts hitting people’s doorstep.
And yeah if they are calling it a “Cruza” it makes sense it’s not a rocket ship but 35kph is still shockingly slow to me. I still want one though haha.
at 14:29 you mentioned you flying at high throttle, but the amp draw only 8A. Could be due to cause it's setup for 6S but you are using 4S, so more throttle required, but in this case it's also under-prop hence the low amp draw.
The final version of the T2 (the one that you can buy yourself) will be setup for 6s, however the prototype version that I have is very much only setup for 4s. The motors and ESC's on mine are only 4s compatible
Nice review, and what a nice landing there😂👍👍👍
Nice review 🎉
Where's those T2 cruza videos!!!😂 didn't get mine yet , but they told me the other day George is satisfied with the final mold and electronics and hopefully by the 15th they start shipping, so hopefully I get the T2 and my walksnail goggles x at the same time 🙏 🤲
Love yer vids, you're very entertaining and honest 😉 I have the T1 and although it's the fugliest of my planes, it does things pretty well. I've tried to beat my PB distance out record using 2x 5000 21700 packs but with all that weight it ain't so efficient. I can imagine this new one can carry a lot🤔 Have you tried a Dolphin yet? Feckin fantastic planes and go forever on 10,000mah of 4s 21700's😉 Keep up the grand work (Drambuidhe ) NZ.
I haven't tried a dolphin yet no, however I've heard from many sources that it's apparently a great aircraft. Hopefully will get to try one at some point :)
I assume props are contra rotating ?
Could ypu use motor differential to help yaw ?
They are contra-rotating yes. Adding some differential trust would certainly help, although personally I'm not that fussed about having yaw lol
You probably said this, but I was wondering what the range is electronically. How far can it get away from you before it can't detect home and keeps flying away?
There's no update or another fly video about T2?
What are the props and motors you use in this test? Concerning the efficiency they matters much.
Motors I currently have are Sunnysky 2212 980kv, and they're paired with 8" props. The final version of the T2 will have slightly different motors though
Do you have a flight controller on this one yet?
Also suprised how low the Amp draw is (if its accurate)!
Bravo.thenks
I personally hate the word 'aircraft' 😂 but love all your videos 🙂👍
Haha what's wrong with the word aircraft? lol
Hi! Are you flying the plane on 4s ? I saw on the website that Heewing recomends 6s in it.
Hey, yes I'm flying 4s. My T2 was sent to me by HeeWing months before the official release and it's the prototype. My version is only 4s compatible, however the official versions you can now buy are 6s compatible
@@gizfpv thanks for the reply. I just ordered mine. So i will have to get new batteries as well. :( I was hoping it will run on 4s as that's my current stock of LiPo's
The Yaw was dead because you had it in Horizon Mode...You need bank angle to yaw....😳😳😮🇬🇧
That might be true, however even in acro mode the yaw authority seems very minimal and similar tbf. Shelby has also said the rudder on his seems to have little effect (and as far as i know he doesn't even have a fc on his T2), so idk. Will investigate further next time I fly
@@gizfpv Put it in manual, not Acro...Then test Rudder authority. It doesn't help not having any dihedral on the wings either...😮🤔🤔😳😏
And the VTOL version that’s coming? Know anything?😊 Very good review.
I'm afraid I know absolutely nothing, other than it's under development :)
If there's a VTOL, it will cost more. 😉
and will probably have to fly it on 6S@@AerialWaviator
What is the next? :D
did you use auto-launch or manually launch it?
Manually launched it
So it can come with a flight controller?
No it doesn't come with a flight controller. Later versions might, but atm the version being sold does not. I added my own
Ok. I thought in the video you had said stock pids were fine.
@@horsship yeah, I meant the stock pids that came with the flash of inav 6 firmware that I put on the flight controller.
I really really don’t like the fact it’s going to use 6s packs. 4s seems to be the standard cell count for fpv planes this size. This adds to the cost now buying large capacity 6s Lion packs or 6s Lipos.
It seems to fly absolutely fine on 4s and has plenty of power, so yeah I'm not sure what the reasoning is for making the final version a 6s. Faster maybe? 🤷
I guess we could always swap the motor for 4s ones but that would add to the cost
You can still use 4s with the 6s setup
@@sr-prod there's not really any such thing as a "4S" or "6S" motor (obviously within reason). Motors generally burn out due to too high current. Turning 8" props at 6S would need a really low kv on motors that small, which is pretty rare. They don't advertise what the kv is on the motors that will come with it, or what pitch the props are, but my guess is that it will be a pretty standard 4S configuration.
@@gizfpv I'm guessing it's just because most ESCs these days are at least 6S capable so why not advertise it. I have to assume the motor kv and prop pitch will be sized for 4S.
Ok… I need one 😂
Already pre order lol 😂 hope your well dude
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T1 have 2 drastic faults, very aggressive stall with nasty wing drop and rerally hard to lock the heading, its always trying to turn, hard to keep heading, looks like this problem persists and its TERRIBLE!
I've owned two T1's and haven't noticed either of those issues with mine 🤷
@@gizfpv I only fly manual and tried some stalls to see how handles, maybe you didn’t or I have 2 bad ones!
Do you think that side-to-side waggle has anything to do with that rudder
It's a possibility. As I said in the video, the design of the rudder on my T2 isn't perfect and it'll be different on the final version of the T2. Could be that the rudder isn't stiff enough on mine, which is causing the side to side waggle. Alternatively it could be a problem with the programming, have had a few suggestions that I need to investigate