i think a lot of people dont give Saito the respect he deserves....the whole team are all next level operators, but Saito's sniping was insane when the major first recruited him and hes only gotten better
interesting. in the English dub, Saito tells Batou to send the feed through to the sniper (to distract him from shooting the target), wheras in this version they make it accidental
Batou's brain is "natural", every cyborg has at least that. If you pay close attention to things like "why they couldn't bring Yano back" or "what cyberbrain schlerosis is" you'll see a cyberbrain isn't just a hard-drive for ghosts. It's an expanded human brain. Imagine a natural brain encased in a shell that has a lot of expansions that include but are not limited to cybercom, network functions, dictionaries and external memory devices.
Spoiler ahead: "Batou's brain is "natural", every cyborg has at least that. ..." I don't think that is actually the whole case. Well Batou's brain may be natural, but what about Motoka or the Tatchikoma? Ghost in the shell tried to show the possibility of brain transfer in a form "mental state". The following will be just a theory (I actually dont remember very well), but we once saw during the course of the show that Motokas head got blown off and she survived. She can control/manipulate multiple bodys after that. We also know that the internet is part of the Tatchikomas individuality programm. And that Hideo Kuze (from second gig) tried to upload the ghost of thousends of people through the internet. What I am pointing at is that I think its not about the brain in a natural form or not. It's about the existence and the creation (in the Puppeteers case) of a ghost to lead the body. That would explain why Motoka is considered a magican-class hacker. That would be a worthwile imagination .
sherbLP Well, the Tachikoma are not cyborgs, they're AI, so there's that. Motoko's abilities can be explained with an analogy: imagine Motoko's ghost hacking as a person that ventures into some kind of depth with a rope tied to its waist at one end and at a starting point on the other, their ghost is always anchored to the host natural augmented brain. You can never see a human ghost leave its body forever. If you remember ever hearing something like that it was more of the stuff of urban legends, myths, etc. (like someone's conscience getting entangled on someones brain, etc.) OR it's a rare occurrence like Motoko's ghost fusing with the Puppet Master in the versions where it exists. How many more AI+Ghost mergings happen in GITS's world? Apparently it's a once in a lifetime occurence. When Yano died, the Tachikomas asked why his ghost couldn't be loaded onto another body, and Saito explained it just wouldn't cut it. When Kuze proposed uploading the ghosts of the refugees Motoko and the Tachikoma's weren't sure it would work at all, it was just the only option they had until the Tachikoma's came up with a second way, so it ended up as an untested experiment. I'm not discussing so much that the Ghosts couldn't be hosted in a digital memory, I'm just saying it's not a thing that has been done or has ended up with unfruitful results. The closer thing we can see is Ghost Dubbing, where ghosts are copied and loaded into the memories of robots, but these copies are doomed because: 1) they were degraded and 2) they were stored into things that didn't have enough storage size. They can still come up with stories about ghosts living in robots, in completelly electronic brains, but the way everything GITS has been written, they would be rare or unique cases worth investigating.
sherbLP I'm watching Psycho Pass right now. Have you? I haven't enjoyed an anime this much in some time and if you're into GITS it should be right up your alley. Cowboy Bebop is like my second favourite anime (right after SAC) but there's nothing like it... Samurai Champloo maybe.
@@sherbLP I love the philosophical discussions and all of the (usually boring) politics and economics that we get as exposition over the course of the series..! It makes the world so believable and interesting, to the point that it might be my favourite futuristic/science fiction media.
@@AndorRadnai Well, its been round about seven years since I last watched Ghost in the Shell. Sometimes I still think about the show and it feels a bit haunting to be honest. I think I will have to "carry this weight" forever. ;-P And since then, my english skills have also improved significantly. :-D
Did anyone catch the cinematography similarities with this scene and the Kill Bill anime segments? Really cool how they create the illusion of camera movement 👌
No the brain or some piece of it has to remain or the soul "ghost" cannot exist, when the characters undergo cyberisation their brain is integrated with cybernetic parts. I believe he has some of his brain intact I just cant see how his brain survived the shock.
hahaha i was asking the same thing about a year ago until i found it today...the name of the song is home stay in the Ghost in the Shell OST...enjoy :)
It's like the old experiment of building an exo skeleton for an egg and then throwing it from a high point as long as the brain can be cushioned on impact but also be held stable enough to prevent to much brain bouncing then it should be fine
This is from an OVA titled Solid State Society. It was initially going to be a third season but due to their budget being cut down they had to keep it to a 2 hour film.
![GitS SAC 2nd gig, E21: Batou fights Kuze [Eng Sub]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/cBCcsMYHf-Q/mqdefault.jpg)
サイトー推しの私としてはほんとたまらない
クールに見えて仕事に熱い職人気質でほんまにカッコいいわぁ。。
見た目いかついのに声が若いのがいい
あと腕の太さがいい
バトーもかっこいいけど、サイトーはリアリティがあるよね
こんな男性会ってみたい
これだけ離れた距離をお互いバイポッドも使わずにこの命中精度を発揮できるのは、射撃管制ソフトの質の高さと長年の経験によるものなんだろうな
i think a lot of people dont give Saito the respect he deserves....the whole team are all next level operators, but Saito's sniping was insane when the major first recruited him and hes only gotten better
Saito became an even better sniper with Section 9? That, to me, sounds like another facet of "Maj. Kusanagi bringing out the best in her people"
@@floydjohnson7888 I mean, it also kinda helps that he has a cybernetic eye too, since y'know, Major kinda shot out his original.
サイトーは射撃も抜群だけど頭もいいよなぁ。相手の位置を推測してより有利な高地を押さえて射撃姿勢を取ってから相手との一対一に持ち込む。暗殺を防げるしタイミングも位置も有利な戦いができる。時間が追われてる中で射撃の腕だけに頼らず勝つべくして勝つ。かっこいいわ。
先手が獲れれば俺が勝つだろう
好きだなぁ…
バトーとサイトーのコンビはワイルドとクレバーって感じで好きだぁ
SSSで一番印象に残ったシーンだね。2人ともかっこよすぎ。あと、バトー強すぎ
i love Batou jumping off the building just like that.
ronisworld2 よ
時間が惜しい。先手を取れれば・・
オレが勝つだろ！
何回観ても痺れるわあ。
SSSの中で一位二位を争うベストシーン！
9課の中でも、イシカワに次ぐ職人気質なサイトー、スナイパー潰した後のバトーとの会話も良い👍
interesting. in the English dub, Saito tells Batou to send the feed through to the sniper (to distract him from shooting the target), wheras in this version they make it accidental
Actually, the subtitles are just wrong. Saito does indeed say to send the feed through in Japanese.
やはりサイトーは格好良い。
Ohh Love this scene..It's too bad during SAC we don't get to see much of Saito in action.. :(
バトーさんの義体とはいえ、あの高さから落ちたら絶対に壊れると思うんだけどな。
2人ともラフな感じの服装なのがかっこいい
Batou's brain is "natural", every cyborg has at least that. If you pay close attention to things like "why they couldn't bring Yano back" or "what cyberbrain schlerosis is" you'll see a cyberbrain isn't just a hard-drive for ghosts. It's an expanded human brain. Imagine a natural brain encased in a shell that has a lot of expansions that include but are not limited to cybercom, network functions, dictionaries and external memory devices.
Spoiler ahead: "Batou's brain is "natural", every cyborg has at least that. ..." I don't think that is actually the whole case. Well Batou's brain may be natural, but what about Motoka or the Tatchikoma? Ghost in the shell tried to show the possibility of brain transfer in a form "mental state". The following will be just a theory (I actually dont remember very well), but we once saw during the course of the show that Motokas head got blown off and she survived. She can control/manipulate multiple bodys after that. We also know that the internet is part of the Tatchikomas individuality programm. And that Hideo Kuze (from second gig) tried to upload the ghost of thousends of people through the internet. What I am pointing at is that I think its not about the brain in a natural form or not. It's about the existence and the creation (in the Puppeteers case) of a ghost to lead the body. That would explain why Motoka is considered a magican-class hacker. That would be a worthwile imagination .
sherbLP Well, the Tachikoma are not cyborgs, they're AI, so there's that. Motoko's abilities can be explained with an analogy: imagine Motoko's ghost hacking as a person that ventures into some kind of depth with a rope tied to its waist at one end and at a starting point on the other, their ghost is always anchored to the host natural augmented brain. You can never see a human ghost leave its body forever. If you remember ever hearing something like that it was more of the stuff of urban legends, myths, etc. (like someone's conscience getting entangled on someones brain, etc.) OR it's a rare occurrence like Motoko's ghost fusing with the Puppet Master in the versions where it exists. How many more AI+Ghost mergings happen in GITS's world? Apparently it's a once in a lifetime occurence.
When Yano died, the Tachikomas asked why his ghost couldn't be loaded onto another body, and Saito explained it just wouldn't cut it. When Kuze proposed uploading the ghosts of the refugees Motoko and the Tachikoma's weren't sure it would work at all, it was just the only option they had until the Tachikoma's came up with a second way, so it ended up as an untested experiment.
I'm not discussing so much that the Ghosts couldn't be hosted in a digital memory, I'm just saying it's not a thing that has been done or has ended up with unfruitful results. The closer thing we can see is Ghost Dubbing, where ghosts are copied and loaded into the memories of robots, but these copies are doomed because: 1) they were degraded and 2) they were stored into things that didn't have enough storage size. They can still come up with stories about ghosts living in robots, in completelly electronic brains, but the way everything GITS has been written, they would be rare or unique cases worth investigating.
sherbLP I'm watching Psycho Pass right now. Have you? I haven't enjoyed an anime this much in some time and if you're into GITS it should be right up your alley. Cowboy Bebop is like my second favourite anime (right after SAC) but there's nothing like it... Samurai Champloo maybe.
@@sherbLP I love the philosophical discussions and all of the (usually boring) politics and economics that we get as exposition over the course of the series..!
It makes the world so believable and interesting, to the point that it might be my favourite futuristic/science fiction media.
@@AndorRadnai Well, its been round about seven years since I last watched Ghost in the Shell. Sometimes I still think about the show and it feels a bit haunting to be honest. I think I will have to "carry this weight" forever. ;-P And since then, my english skills have also improved significantly. :-D
電子戦のできるバトーが一緒でよかったね
課長の采配
Did anyone catch the cinematography similarities with this scene and the Kill Bill anime segments? Really cool how they create the illusion of camera movement 👌
Kill Bill anime segments were done by same studio who did GiTS.
Just imagine the hole Batou left in the ground...
Good job. .
No the brain or some piece of it has to remain or the soul "ghost" cannot exist, when the characters undergo cyberisation their brain is integrated with cybernetic parts. I believe he has some of his brain intact I just cant see how his brain survived the shock.
斉藤カッコいい!(・∀・)
hahaha i was asking the same thing about a year ago until i found it today...the name of the song is home stay in the Ghost in the Shell OST...enjoy :)
the one starting as 1:46 is from the soundtrack?
隻眼の狙撃手とか好きに決まってるだろ
part of the Solid State Society soundtrack, yeah.
Even if Batou's body is completely cybernetic, shouldn't his brain have been destroyed in such an impact?
It's like the old experiment of building an exo skeleton for an egg and then throwing it from a high point as long as the brain can be cushioned on impact but also be held stable enough to prevent to much brain bouncing then it should be fine
Also I'm aware this comment is ten years old lol
What episode is this? I dont remember the scene and i thought i have seen everything from GIS.
This is from an OVA titled Solid State Society. It was initially going to be a third season but due to their budget being cut down they had to keep it to a 2 hour film.
***** I really don't know. Try crunchyroll, maybe? I don't even know how that page works! XD
@@TheDecatonkeil is there an article that states it was originally meant to be an ova? I'd love to read it
Hi, does anyone know what song is used at the end? 5:25 onwards. With much thanks :)
+Drake Lee Origa-Rise
Thank you :)
Starting from 1:46
これ何でデータを逆流させて相手に居場所を伝えたの？
ターゲット捉えた時点でサイトーは撃てばよかったんじゃないの？
相手の銃口をターゲットから確実に外させたかったのでしょう。
"home stay" from stand alone complex album :)
made it !
saitoooooo
does anyone know if the song played for this scene is part of a soundtrack of Ghost In The Shell???
It is!
wtf so if u r a robot u dont take damage from 100 m fall?
Lmao dumbest shit ever in this movie
@@denglong7180 xD
これなんでデータ逆流させたんだろ。
狙撃させないためなのかね。
だったら早く撃てばいいのにとか思っちゃうけど。
それなりに時間がかかるんかね。
データを逆流させることで、ラジは自分が何処から狙われているか察知し、身を護るためにサイトーを排除するか、身を隠すかの選択を強いられる。
視覚に割り込まれているため、この状況のまま任務を優先しても移動し続ける標的を外してしまう可能性が高く、またその場合はほぼ確実に発射炎から火点を特定され自分が狙撃されるのが確定する。よってこの選択も合理的とは言えない。
ラジはこの狙撃のために入念な準備をしており、標的を狙える時間は限られている事から、この狙撃を中止（任務失敗）して身を隠すというのは最終手段となるため、この状況では事実上サイトーを排除するというのが唯一の策となる。
一瞬のカットの切り替えで判りづらいが、サイトーもラジもお互いの視覚情報を見せ合いながらのスナイプ戦であり、サイトーには撃ち下ろしの有利があるものの、ラジは熱光学迷彩を使用しておりこちらの方が圧倒的に有利であるという状況も、ラジの「まずは敵狙撃手を排除」という選択を合理的なものとして補強する。
一方でサイトーはあえてラジに自分の視覚情報を与え応戦させる事で、熱光学迷彩を使用するラジを正対させ、正確な位置や姿勢をコントロールし、自分の身を危険に晒すことで熱光学迷彩によるラジの圧倒的な優位性を崩すことができた。
つまりこれはサイトー自身の技能に対する絶対の自信に加え、心理戦でもラジを圧倒したというシーンであり、SF的なモチーフをふんだんに使いつつ、たった一発で全てを片付ける狙撃手同士の戦いという極めて古典的なものを短い尺の中に盛り込んだ劇と言える。
シーンの最初から最後まで1曲のBGMを丸ごと使う演出はミュージックビデオ的でもあり、ここだけで一本の映像作品として観られるだけのおもしろさが詰まっている。
まさに名シーン。
@@entertherequiem なげー！ｗ
@@ーけん
とりあえず、標的からラジ・プートの意識を逸らそうとしたってことが分かればOK。
ついでに言うと、もしもラジ・プートが撃たれるのを覚悟で狙撃を続行してたらヤバかった。
480p yuck
Theme song in Russian. ;)
4:51
ARISEが先だが何があったらこんなにサイトーもパズも変われるんや？
トグサが大して変わってへんのに😅
少佐も変わってますし、課長もかなり老け込んでますしね。
やっぱり年の功じゃないですか？
@@石丸郁万 後少佐とサイトーの出会い方が違いますよね、2ndGIGだと戦場だけど、ARISEだと傭兵としてですものね、でも2ndGIGではあの話は嘘だとも言っていたから確証は出来ないです。後アニメ版は原作から派生した作品ですが、ARISEは完全な原作作品となっています。
最初期の押井攻殻とSACシリーズがパラレルなのと同じ感覚でええやんな
4:22 バトー「待ってろー‼︎」
屋上から華麗にジャンプ
僕「あ、これ安地迫った時にpubgとか荒野でよくやる奴だ」
So complete lie on the title. I'm disliking every vid you have now.
データを逆流させた意味なんなん？
+あおあおあお 別の狙撃者に狙われていることを知る、ターゲットを狙撃している場合ではない（先に脅威を排除しなければならない）、その脅威を補足する時間差で確実に仕留める（ターゲットはこちらを狙撃するため動かない）。
と思われる。
+鈴木寛正
車に乗ってる奴を今にも撃ちそうだったから
一旦こっちに注意を向けさせたのか。
たしかにこちらの視点を送るのではなく、エロ画像とか送ったほうが良いけど、まぁ絵的にスナイパー対決にしたほうが物語になるよね😂
おもろ過ぎるやろいつ見ても