Renovating Adam LZ's House - Just One MAJOR Flaw With The Home Theater Setup! | EP.30
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Receiver on top is definitely killing the look. Maybe the side speakers being centred above the subs on the black tile would look better, seems too close to the tv?
Here is the part that most people miss. I didn't talk about it in the video. There are very, very few A/V specific cabinets that look decent or are the correct size. The cabinet company we used was semi-custom, so I knew we wouldn't be able to pick the depth. Getting something custom made would cost a boatload, and I didn't have the time to get one done. I went with the sure thing and put the rather good look 778 on top. I think it's a decent concession.
@@ObsessedGarage to see you say woulda cost boat load is fucking hilarious, as like you didnt go way fucking over priced nonsense expansive ass water faucets, with a what $800 towel rack above the toilet, im sure the tv stand coulda bin a lil more custom fit for use here no?
@@pwartv3528 You're missing the part where the constraints on decisions for design and allocations for budget affect what can be spent where. The AV and entertainment were Matt doing what he can with the allowed budget. He specifically addresses that this stuff is not as important to Adam and Colette. The budget isn't unlimited and there are always compromises in projects. The pie is only so big.
@@pwartv3528 How many times did he describe an expensive ass waste of money and then say, I had to twist this guy's(Adam) arm, who's supposed to be my friend, into getting this because I wanted to see it or experience it? The lights, the kitchen sink and the A/V setup, what'd I miss?
I agree the receiver on top is a miss. Users don't need to look at the receiver ever, so why not put it in the cabinet sideways (solves depth issue) and vertical? As matt points out the wiring above the cabinet is kind of gross but im sure weve all made these kinds of hind sight errors.
Left and right speakers could be dropped to make the tops level with the top of the TV and that would fix the aesthetic.
IMHO... the receiver on top of the floating shelf looks worse than the taller speakers. Like... A LOT worse.
The 120" TV's are coming out now Matt...easy fix! LOL
All that hype for all that time and it all looks like absolute shit. This is what you get when Matt is involved his ideas (products he specifically wants) installed incorrectly in a stupid way. Matt 👎 Mike 👍
I like the bigger speakers ... old school audiophile here ! Put another box similar size on the other side of the receiver.
Mike and Matt are absolutely hilarious together lol. Would love more podcasts between you two with random off topic subjects! Makes for great/funny banter.
Easily the most boring episode yet. This whole install could have been 10 or 15 minutes edited. Meaningless rant after meaningless rant. Nobody cares dude just install the fuckers and do a sound test with copyright free music. That's all the people need to see. It's also too bad the outlet & cable runs are installed above to cabinet. Even though that wasn't spec'ed out before choosing the amp & speakers, you could have installed the outlet behind the cabinet anyways and just ran them up through it (like you did, just without going down first) and that would have allowed you to put the amp in the cabinet if things worked out (which they did, there's room in the cabinet for it). It really does look horrible there. Not bad, horrible. All the effort for symmetry ruined by 1 oversight and hastily made decision. Definitely a MAJOR flaw as the title says lol.
Man...that paragraph is really hard to read. I'd be more inclined to hear you out if you were more concise, used punctuation properly, and weren't so dramatic.
Anyone ever tell you that you’re a douche?
@@ObsessedGarage Maybe you would be yet you still read everything so....
@@mcdoob Thanks, you too!
@@ZeLoShady you’re welcome glad I could help
"Don't trust anyone that says 'trust me'...but trust me" 🤣
People do not toss out the feet to your tv!!! when you go to upgrade you will have an issue re using your tv elsewhere in you house or selling it afterwards! what a dumb thing to tell people!!!! horrible advise
Throw it away. TV's are worth next to nothing after about a year.
Hey Matt I know you said the receiver or amp doesn’t fit in the cabinet but how come that wasn’t figured out or planned for? Same with the junction box being placed above the cabinet. Placement for both just looks really bad.
If the reciever was in the cabinet and the speakers showing it would look better.
Won't fit. Unless you buy a dedicate A/V cabinet, they are always too shallow. I was veto'd on BDI or Salamander.
@@ObsessedGarage its a little busy on the left side is why i said that. I'm a gen X that was heavy into car and house audio back in the day with crutchfield and other audio and video mags.
You should really DIY modify the cabinet, and merge two of them, cut out the seperator and reinforce the frame. AV on top is too much of a compromise. (also add some vents for airflow)
I really like how the 778 looks with it's color display. I like it out there.
I also enjoy seeing my receiver. I'm also partial to not having dust covers on the speakers. The smaller speakers will look really good without it. Good job guys. These commentors don't understand that not everything can be 100 percent perfect. The budget would have to increase two-fold. Adam and Collete won't care at all. @@ObsessedGarage
I don't understand why people think that every single piece of furniture, hardware, electronics needs to be in the absolute perfect place. Every house I've ever been in or worked on has concessions made. Yeah with unlimited time and budget and most importantly energy, you could get close to a perfect layout/setup but that's not reality. A receiver on a cabinet or a towel bar in a suboptimal place isnt ruining this project.
Bingo!
My opinion, it all looks too busy being crammed in that lighter tile area. I would have hung the speakers in the black tile area. Also the reciever on top is sending my OCD mental, personally i cant have ANYTHING under a TV when im watching it as i dont want my concentration to be broken by an object or a light under it, and that big black box just being off to the left with no symmetry on the right side is killing me. That should have definitely been inside the unit to keep the minimilist look
That is not what obsessive compulsive disorder is.
@@ObsessedGarage that's a strange reply to someone with an opinion. OCD can be a plethora of things, when it comes to tidyness and minimilism OCD can be having everything sat a certain way, sat at right angles to the surrounding objects etc. Just because you have a certain OCD tick doesnt mean everyone elses is the same. My opinion stands, it doesnt look right and looks too busy/ cluttered, but hey, im just a viewer helping you get views
@@fiestaturbo I think the issue is how many of us misuse the term ocd. Someone with OCD isn’t necessarily needing to be clean, organized or have things in a certain way. A perfect example would be someone like Matt. He has shared with us that his issue revolves around his fear when driving and of the unknown.
@@NeemoHose-ir5ht I wasnt questioning his OCD, he questioned my meaning of it when referring to the cluttered look of the media set up
Matt, instead of saying trust me... say trust in the process. That's what I tell my customers that can't see the vision until the vision is completed.
Ah...smart. I'm stealing that one. Thanks.
lol that’s pretty much saying the same thing when it’s your process. I get what you’re saying though.
Function over feng shui leave the big speakers it will sound amazing and it doesn’t look bad at all
Sad to hear you guys ordered different speakers.. I would have just got a bigger tv if it bothered you so much.. That tv looks too small for the wall let alone the room..
Also why are the front channels so close together.. They should be on the black sides.. You spent the time running the wires for the rear.. not gunna have good separation in the front..😕
The receiver is definitely not in the right place. All the symmetry has been defeated by placing it there.
center needs to be more forward so doesnt reflect off the cabinet and L&R should be further apart and lower for better immersion but they've gone looks over function
I really like to setup Matty, even if the speaker heights don’t quite match the vision, it’s a beautiful setup. The uncomfortable truth most people will never admit…. is they don’t have the ear to hear the difference between top quality hi-fi audio brands. I know even after 25 years of being a geek, I rarely can tell the difference, and I personally like to select audio equipment based off user interface and systems compatibilities.
I am going to poke a bit of fun at you Matt
Usain everything that went great on that wall
But Mike is the perfectionist and because of Mike everything came out perfectly measured because he measures not once not twice but probably three times then probably questions and then goes for the gusto
Matt unfortunately you forgot the measurement part of this whole thing except for the output and the components matching together probably except for the wiring didn't work with the system that you design
But to be clear no I didn't use any punctuations I'm not a perfectionist and worried about my texts like that
I have really big hands and I have the biggest phone that Samsung makes I can't use an iPhone because they make too small of phones but I still hit all the keys pretty much with my thumbs so I use voice to text and I'm okay with that
🎯 Key Takeaways for quick navigation:
00:00 📢 *The PSB speakers have titanium dome tweeters with wave guides, which Matt normally doesn't like but thinks will sound good here.*
00:58 📺 *The setup will include an Apple TV 4K as the video source, an NAD T778 receiver for audio, and an 83" LG OLED TV.*
02:30 🛋 *This will be more of a family room setup rather than a dedicated home theater, with some acoustic treatment from furniture/rugs. *
03:10 🎶 *Matt is very impressed with NAD's use of Class D amplification, finding it sounds amazing despite lower power ratings.*
04:05 🗜 *The speaker setup is limited by the room, but will include front L/C/R speakers, side surrounds, and 2 subwoofers.*
08:43 📏 *Matt is laying out exactly where he wants the TV bracket, center channel, and other components mounted. *
11:29 📦 *Matt rants about getting rid of unneeded TV accessories and not being a hoarder.*
16:35 🕹 *The NAD receiver has modular inputs that can be changed later if new sources are added.*
21:53 🕳 *Matt is installing wall grommets to hide wires going to the receiver since the speakers limited his options.*
23:25 🥶 *Adam, Collete, Matt and Mike do an intense 3-minute cold plunge challenge in 52 degree water.*
26:32 🕳 *Mike helps Matt cut holes in the cabinet for the subwoofers, which Matt has pre-wired. *
33:42 📺 *They mount the 83" LG OLED TV and center it on the backsplash grout line. *
36:52 🎼 *Matt explains the PSB speakers have titanium dome tweeters and wave guides to prevent them from sounding too bright.*
39:43 ⚡ *The full system has simple connections: 5 speaker wires, 2 subwoofers, 1 HDMI, and the NAD modules.*
42:05 😟 *Matt realizes the front speakers look too big and overwhelm the TV, so he may swap them for smaller models.*
42:33 🤔 *Matt knew the speakers might be too big but wanted to try them first before deciding they need to be changed.*
43:14 🖼 *Matt decides to swap the front speakers for smaller PSB Imagine PWM1 models instead to better fit the TV visually. *
44:30 📺 *Going down just one more size to the PWM2 speakers would still overwhelm the TV, so PWM1 seems the best fit.*
45:10 ⚠ *Matt spent months planning every detail, but still had one mismatch with speakers too big, showing obsession and reality don't always match.*
46:46 🧩 *Getting 40 out of 40 details perfect is rare, so minor adjustments like speaker swap are expected in complex projects. *
47:11 🔈 *Matt will install the matching surround speakers, then calibrate once all furniture is in place.*
49:43 🎼 *Even unfinished, Matt loves the full speaker setup with the NAD receiver, impressed by the sound in the echoey unfinished room.*
Nice
The real mvp out here with timestamps ⭐
Yo tell us the truth. You AI ? 🤖
You need help champ!😂
Chill hero
I think the receiver on top of the cabinet looks worse than the speakers.
You are not alone Matt with your younger self doing a lot of dreaming and planning. Crunchfield was my bible also
Finally my childhood as a catalog junkie has been validated and vindicated! I knew every square inch of the J&R Music World and Crutchfield catalogs and would also build elaborate hypotheticals I couldn't afford. It's what us geezers today did pre-internet then. It was a glorious existence.
I need a Surge Schluder Sconce drill
Amp placement is the miss
I feel like if the top of the TV was level with the top of the speakers (PWM3) it would make the set up a lot cleaner with the big speakers
The subs need black grille covers Matty.
$1500 from C3 for the LG Evo G3. Adam is soooo fucking cheap.
The receiver on top of the cabinet just looks terrible. It absolutely throws off the symmetry of the entire system and look. What a miss.
I like it.
All the guys should do a COLD plunge at the end of the series
That amp should be in the cupboard below it not on top it spoils the symmetry
It's too deep.
You are allowed to like Apple, they make quality products. What triggers people is you immediately dismissing competitors and being unwilling to even try them.
Who said I haven't tried them? I just have never bought one.
@@ObsessedGarage fair enough then, when you were bantering with the plumber it sounded like you were dismissing Samsung having never even used
PWM2's might still be small enough at 36" next to that 41.6" height... I think those are the way to go!
I was going to do them, but I test fitted the white rears. It was pretty clear the PWM1 were going to look best.
Receiver on top is definitely an eyesore. Keep it elegant! Great sound without all these big black blobs on the wall should be a part of the obsession. hidden but the best sound. Also the outlets for the cables should have been in the cabinet you can then always guide them up, this gives you an option to place the receiver sideways in the cabinet and not have the ugly outlets.
Hindsight is always easy to get it perfect.
You can just move the 3s down a bit to be perfecly aligned with the hight of the tv. It would require moving down the bracket wich sucks abit but it would look good designwise
Mannnn the receiver kinda kills the whole look of the living room. Everything is amazing, but my eye would only be staring at the receiver.
My thought too....I did home theater years back and when we prewired there were plenty of times we came back and moved boxes and wiring because the customer or designer changed things they should have pushed to get decision cabinet size before walls were sheetrocked...receiver is an eyesore
I like it there.
@@ObsessedGarage lol...as long as clients like it that's all that matters...in next video do some welding on camera...that sets the internet on fire 🤣
Just add another one on the right side. That'll teach em@@ObsessedGarage
@@ObsessedGarageyou like the receiver where it’s at? Really? Maybe the side speakers would look better if they weren’t so close to the tv?
Should have just used the same soundbar as the bedroom. Sure, it's not what you'd do at your house, but would have saved them from how bad this setup looks with speaker on the left +right. Between this and the tv calibration, you could have saved some $$$ that a regular person won't get any value from.
Yeah this looks dumb. A simple tv with a sound bar would've looked so much cleaner. And that receiver sitting on top of the cabinets also ruins it
Adam talking about the screws not lining up straight up and down, and then realising I have a real issue because I tend to maken sure that is the way with a lot of my mounting hardware on just about anything I work on (unless it needs to be torqued to a specific number, than the torque trumps the symmetry)
No Grills, gives more of an automotive aesthetic.
I think mike needs his own channel, hard watching matt all the time
I had no problems with the way the larger towers looked on the wall but I also have floor standing speakers with 12" drivers all around so I'm not the target audience there. I also enjoy looking at my components so having the receiver on top doesn't bother me.
I think if the top of the Tv and the top of the larger speakers were level it would look fine. It’s the fact they stick up a little higher than the TV is the issue.
That wall is a masterpiece! Honestly I could live with the big speakers. Good job! The PSB and NAD stuff all has a nice clean modern look to it. I’m definitely a fan. Adam and Collette will enjoy that space, I’m sure.
20000+ dollar audio setup… hand written wire labels/tags REALLY MATT?
It's not even close to $20K, but yes, I always just handwrite.
i personally love the bigger speakers. they look like a work of art, i wouldnt even put the covers on them.
For that room, I would’ve done a single Devialet Dione Ope’ra sitting on top of the wall unit!! Like you said Matt, it’s not a home theater room, so keep it elegant!!
Autism is one helluva drug 😂
I think it's funny people call me Autistic.
I'm only at 24:48, But I already would have shifted everything up to cover the plate with all the wires...
I'd custom install some AC Infinity 1U fans(one intake at the front/bottom and one exhaust at (top/left), and put all the gear in the far left cubby of those cabinets...
Lifting the TV(3"ish) should not be a problem, and all holes should be covered...
I do love that AVR's screen!!!!
I've said it for years, that this "80's" DOT Matrix junk needs to go......
@00:28:57 That's right folks, to quote Matt: "to keep from experiencing cold weather edema and subsequent heart palpitations and then death, during a cold plunge, maybe shuffle a leg every couple of thirty seconds, otherwise you'll hit a THERMAL BARRIER"!!!
Do you run Apple TV into tv and eARC to AVR on all your set ups?
I have Apple TV running into my DENON x4800h and it’s super buggy trying to get it to control volume etc etc all with Apple Remote. Sometimes it works, than randomly it all falls apart and stops working.
Hey Matt,, I’m glad it’s sounding good when it’s all dialed in, it’s going to be that much better. for pre-planning this like you did and that’s your only issue I think he did pretty good I myself could live with the bigger speakers, but. The smaller speakers do look better. and I am assuming you’re crossing them over at 80 Hz so with the subwoofers hearing the difference between the speakers probably is minimal. If you were running them at full range I’m sure there definitely would be an audible difference. Have a great one as always.
Personally guys, I love the look of the bigger speakers. Aesthetically pleasing. Even with the covers on. And I'm normally a covers off kind of guy.
Might already be too late, but I think the PWM2's don't look too bad. I wouldn't want to sacrifice the performance of that system for a minor aesthetic difference. 🤔
Nope! Don’t change any of the speaker configuration. It’s great. You are OVER obsessing!!!
Adam doesn't care about sound. A sonos system wouldn't have an receiver sticking out like a sore thumb.
Also you said you go off experience but you said you never owned an android phone so why do you think it's better? Just because it costs more? Also Amazon Alex is way better than Homekit, it has more features and is compatible with more 10x devices
More working less talking these videos are more talk then showing the work being done
You may want to wait until the final edit. This series is designed to share the entire process.
Is it possible to keep the big speakers but get the screen a bit forward so it sits flush with the fronts of the speakers? I feel that would make a big difference without having to opt for the smaller less powerfull speakers... .
And while I´m busy suggesting, maybe make the tv cabinet a bit higher, so you can get the amp in the center with the leads tucked away with some cable management running thru the cabinet...?
See, I consider myself to be a bit of a audiophile, being around artists and friends who know a lot about audio and acoustics, but never heard of a brand called psb speakers!! I have 7.1 system at my house with atmos and powered by Bowers and Wilkins. Respect about the tv data, sony is better but lg is cheaper. I can relate to that!
I'm not really here to harp on you
But I myself harp over every one of the details when it comes to things like these I will go months studying and researching
The one place that you should have done your research is the measurement of width and height of the TV and the height and dimensions of the speakers
That's obsession
Finding stock Google photos with TVs of similar size and speakers
That's obsession
I get it you were probably looking at the specs more than you was anything else and that's why you overlooked that
Your content vibe is just right, keep it up
@9:29 who’s opinion are you referring to? Just asking because there are plenty of reviewers who provide their opinions which ARE based off of use and experience
Everybody was really happy 😂😂😂😂
Best Buy (if purchased there) with the 179.99 special membership will price match if the price drops within 6 months of purchase.
I kind of like the speakers without the screen.
Aesthetically speaking, the vertical wall mounted speakers should be mounted on the black tile, not the grey/concrete-colored tile.
We can't just move them over. There is a hole in the grey tile.
Lots of wall for little TV. Very strange. My opinion
Spacing out the speakers further from the tv would solve the problem being too big and you get better stereo/surround sound at the same time.
Tv and audio system….big disappointment. Would not be happy with that
Exposed receiver looks cool, but please stick the AppleTV to the back of the TV!
It would have been pretty cool if Adam had gone with a Tango touched over the LG, but it's still a sweet setup. Looks good, Matt.
Live and learn!! If you’re not failing you’re not growing.
As you said maybe on the next one you plan for the outlets to be inside the cabinet and if the receiver doesn’t fit inside you drill the holes and bring the cables up through the top.
I reckon the larger speakers would look fine if they weren't so close to the TV.
Yeah, I agree with you on that. Plus they would blend in a bit better being on the darker panels and might not stick out so much visually
The small speakers don’t look good stay with the big speakers
Thank you for showing the process. This installation is really incredible. Getting all the wall boxes in the right place shows the precision of your plan. Well done!
Wall and system looks great, still not sure about Matt? LOL!🤣
Have to say.. Love your no-give-a-darn attitude and how you approach how you're putting the TV system together. Quik ? Have a Yamaha v381 receiver and looking for a subwoofer. was wonder what a good choice would be?
SVS SB2000PRO
Can someone help me with the tv console/cabinet? I might have missed it in the video and don’t see any mention in the comments.
Buying a tiny TV comes back to bite him in the Ass 😂
Man, I feel like it was a big miss not going with the G3. I know $1500 is a good amount of money but considering they went with $800 toilet paper holder not going with the G3 which is a difference you can actually see and will use daily. Place is still looking good though.
The toilet paper holder was nearly free. The LG came full boat.
Matt, thanks to you I went with an NAD C700 and Dynaudio Emit 50 towers for my hangout room (loft). I couldn’t be happier with it. Thanks for spreading the magic of NAD + Dynaudio into the world. Now to add an SVS sub
Honestly, if you bring the speakers down so it's level across the top, i think it would look good
Does Sonos make smaller tv speakers? lol.
Just kidding just kidding
Ha, ha...
You can add a Kaleiscape Strato V to your system now.
Lmao i take showers colder than that
I just noticed I follow you and you don't follow me so why is that?
On the whole, you have a pretty good setup. Kudos to you!!!
Does Adam Lz pay you to yap this much 😂😂😂 just kidding
left and right speakers are too big but subs are too small
Is it possible to continue the fluted wall tile across the center of the wall and notch out holes for the on wall speakers? The problem imo is the current color difference.… Maybe even paint the center to match? I think all the components would instantly disappear if the center section was a darker color. You could even space the speakers out a bit for a larger sound stage… I would kill to hear those speakers in that room 🤤
We can't... It's block behind the tile, and there is a hole behind the current position.
Enough talking then keeps talking
What’s the Apple TV remote cover you use?
"Everyone" thinks floor standing speakers would have fit perfectly in the huge gap between the subs and the cabinet.
Ha, ha... The subs will largely disappear when the furniture is put in place. Generally you want your subs to be inside of the front stage, so they would be between the fronts.
Question OG or anyone... What does leaving the tv on for a long time and calibrating it do? I just bought the exact TV and a Harmon system and couple satellites and a Sub.
A display's brightness will change some from new out of the box. Most calibrators want a TV to settle in before calibrating. Otherwise the brightness/black level is going to change a bit.
@@ObsessedGarage awesome thanks so much. Also, kick ass job of renovations.
I would try to drop the tops of the speakers to be flush with the TV, and see how that looks. I would also ask Adam what sound, and look he likes better. I know personally I would be okay with the bigger speaker look for the added sound.
Due to what they are going to use it to watch/listen, the center channel is the most important. The L/R aren't carrying as much of the load, so I think it's going to be negligible for moderate volume Netflix watching. The key is they are still timbre matched.
Lmao. Adam.. " that was easy " ......... Matt loosing his shit! 🤣
I would much rather sacrifice the look for larger better sounding speakers
Me too
NAD from the 80s, and NAD cd player from then was great…
Did a blind comparison to what was supposed to be best cd player, both myself and sales guy preferred one of them for the same reason. His response when we turned one off to determine a vs b “my god it’s the NAD”
Wait, who’s the Celsius girl?
Adam and collete sure will use dinning table more than all cabinets in kitchen making little table there with bench makes so much sense..