747 Impacts Runway With No Flare
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The pilot clearly flared.
Wasn't the smoothest landing the world has ever seen but it was totally fine.
He absolutely did. There isn't much deflection visible on the tail, but a no-flare landing looks a lot different. He sure planted that main gear resolutely on the tarmac, but he didn't belly-flop it.
He flared too early, drop the nose then flare again but too late.
No problem here…..18y B747 pilot.
He meant not enough flare
No Flare input you say... take a close looks at those elevators (Tail)... Dude they were literally waving and at one point almost vertical... Heavy plane (Remember it's cargo), full flaps and heavy cross winds... it is a freakin' 747... I think the pilot did a fantastic job
747 is actually known to be quite forgiving to land…
Also elevator shouldn’t be waving in a flare…
Flare is basically just slightly increasing the plane attitude to arrest the rate of descent for a smooth touchdown…
Pushing the nose down is not part of a flare.
@@tonamg53 Yes the 747 was very forgiving from what I've heard. I'm not a pilot so can't really speak on that, but I assume that's why so many liked it. But it's still a big heavy aircraft...
Technically yes during flaring the elevator should be steady... but that's in a perfect world... This was in a cross wind and you can see the pilot was constantly correcting. thus the waving elevators...
Never mentioned the lowering of the nose... actually to my understanding raising the nose is actually part of the flare... as you can see the elevator went up... the nose went up. That's how elevator work...
I'm really not sure what your point was... Now I'm not even sure of my point... But suffice to say that the statement "No Flare input" is false.
@@MohJam The “neutral” position of the elevator to remain on the desired flight path will depends on the weight and balance of the aircraft. So seeing elevator in upwards position might not always mean pulling the nose up, it may also means just keeping the nose steady.
Also you don’t used elevator to counteract crosswind. That’s rudder.
@@MohJam Right there with you, that 747 crew did an exceptional job landing!
There is ONE elevator
I was 40 years old before I learned why B-1s are called "bones." B-1, or B-ONE, or BONE. 😂
Doh
Yeah, it's one of those automatic nicknames like K-9.
Or Mad Dog
Or --G-U-11--or--B-1-RD- for the non Navy, that would be a Gull and Bird.
Oh, yes. Of course. 50yrs here 😂
Don't know bout you, but I thought that 747 touchdown was 🤌🏾
Flare clearly visible at 0:16
@@dr.jillalicecooper2587fr
It was a little hard but the pilot definitely flared like he was supposed to I think there was a downdraft that caused the 747 to touchdown less smooth though
Probably not the softest ever, but the titles are usually exaggerated on this channel.
Normal landing with a heavy load. No discomfort for the goods!
The first one was absolutely fine - you can clearly see the flare. Landings do tend to look harder from this angle due to foreshortening but that looked like a pretty good one to me.
0:47 The pilots got some REAL skill to keep the plane on the runway.
That’s a bit over dramatic. 😂😂
More like pilots got some rudders…
Really quick response, that one
Japan Air Lines watching their Japanese comrades landing ANA
Looks fairly routine
Air Force pilots use all the runway, Navy Pilots use all the landing gear.
All the landing gear and NO runway!
I once met a Navy pilot that had been prior Air Force. He flew P-3s. He told me that the Air Force taught him the anything less than 10,000 feet of concrete was not a runway.
What do you expect from people whose definition of a smooth landing involves arresting wire?
I try not to nit-pick & don't usually speak up when it's 2-3 seconds....
But in this economy, I can't afford to just sit in silence while I'm cheated out of 9 _whole_ seconds of aviation....
Nine, more like 15.
The intro always uses 7 seconds of aviation.
The intro 7 sec., the outro 8 sec., and the whole video 9 seconds short.
Shrrrinkflaaation!!
@@Zacht1980ahh, touché monsieur
that 747 flared quite a bit before the hard landing!
That B1 was sick
Sounded alright to me.
Looked normal.
I have 3 old aviation calendars with only 1 picture out of 12 of the B-1 ( different years, 21, 22, 23) up on the wall in my office and every picture is of the B-1 " the Bone" in flight at different angles and lighting. It's lines are stunning and so smooth. I've only seen it fly once.
If it was a long taxi and the brakes got hot you just let them cool a bit before retraction. Better than a wheel well fire.
Mayan Air did not fail to climb because he didn’t retract the gear. The plane is perfectly capable of climbing out with the gear down. The fact is it is the obvious the aircraft flew into a small, but not insignificant wind shear and the pilots executed a wind shear escape maneuver. This includes pitching to hold air speed, increasing power, and making NO CHANGES in the configuration in the aircraft Neil clear of the event. Perhaps you should watch some of Mentor pilots videos, he has one on this very event.
That BONE flyby was lovely... My favourite aircraft to watch
Was that a transonic shockwave? It looked like one, but I couldn't imagine any aircraft going transonic so close to a busy, populated area (especially as it looked like it was just out on a joyride and showing off). Then again, it was over the sea - albeit very close to a busy public beach.
@@fluchterschoen yeah nah, I think it's just water vapour from an input causing a pressure drop over the control surfaces...
@@-Yogo Looked like he pulled up suddenly, causing the entire top of the plane to go low pressure. And Florida air will find any excuse to turn back into the water it is primarily composed of.
I saw Mahan Air landed in IKA, it still had its wheels down!
The Swedish furniture store?
@@fluchterschoenimam khomeini internation dumbass 😅
Landing with wheels down is good!
@@felixx321 very good infact....it increases your percentage of reaching home by 99.8% instead of reaching the morgue or emergency room.
@fluchterschoen haha I was thinking the same lol
That tripple 7 slanding was even scarier.
Not that bad, given the conditions.
I'm a long haul trucker. When I did coast to coast runs, one of the places I liked to stop at was a little truck stop (can't remember the name now) in Tye, Texas, just west of Abilene on I-20. Just to the south, though, was an Air Force vase, one of two that flew the Bone.
I did hate it when they did night ops there ... Them things is LOUD! And when you got B-1s taking off and landing over your head every 10-15 minutes, you don't sleep .... Love to see them, but not all night long!!
Suspect the gear was left down due brake temperature. Short turn around or long taxi?
Likely a brake deactivated and had to wait for the spool down.
OR it could be a gear down ferry
That 747 landing looked almost perfect imo
Doesn’t the A340 always struggle to climb?
The 300's sure do.
Uses the curve of the earth to gain altitude.
@@EdOeuna 🤣🤣🤣
@@EdOeuna🤣🤣🤣
Yes, even with its four hairdryers on high. 🤣👍
The BONE, most beautiful aircraft ever made. Followed closely by the Tomcat.
That was a very fine landing, aiming point check.
FYI it has nothing to do with the landing gear being down. It was overweight. Landing gear are not retracted until a positive rate of climb has been established.
Exactly. There's something else wrong when the plane does't gain altitude. That's more a thrust and/or lift issue.
He just put it down man 🕺🏻💪🏻
I love this aviation site. Short and sweet.
Air Tahiti landing looked intentional and actually went pretty well.
0:12 FO: "Whoa, Cap, that landing was terrible!"
Captain: "Oh, you mean that landing that we just encountered? Yeah, that was rough. I hope we don't encounter another one like that on the next leg."
(Actually, the landing didn't seem so bad; I'm pointing out the very weird use of the language that we often see on this channel.)
Perfect landing
0:15 is that captain joe flying the plane ? 😂😂
Exactly what I thought!
best channel👍👍
Great video!
Love the Auckland airport!
At timestamp 0:21, the pilot flared late. Please be sure to get your story straight, dude. Clearly, there was a severe crosswind.
This Air Tahiti Nui landing was another level of smoothness
i believe the pilot was ex-fighter jet pilot 😅
Excellent Pilots ! 👍
🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟
Good video.
I wouldn't fly with that air Tahiti pilot after that landing.😂
That B1 is so frikin cool !!!!!!!
Lancer with the wings back! 👌
That lightning strike was Boeing management trying to off another whistle blower!
lol the A340 needs help climbing even with the gear up on the best of days.
Definitely not Kelsey.
Mahan Air pilot is getting ready to work for Aerosucre.
Nah, Aerosucre pulls their gear up real quick so they can clear the fence!
@@oliverheaviside2539 Well obviously he's gonna get on the job training for that kind of thing.
Boeing 747! 👏✨️
I flew the 747 for 12 years. That landing looked fine.
I'm assuming that the all of the smoke at touchdown made it seem like a firm landing. However, remember that 16 main gear tires hit the runway at roughly the same time during a 747 landing, vs the 4 on smaller aircraft.
The B-1 flyby most likely done at the Miami Beach Airshow or Ft. Lauderdale Air and Sea show
Hit hard but did absolutely flare..
Some badass pilots..
2:00 Yeah...
Well...
No worries. The pilot was just nice n relaxed; witness the reassuringly slowly paced and smoothly consistent correction of the aircraft nose to terra firma distance co-efficient!
747 looks like it flared to me -- a bit of a hard landing but boxes don't care!
*SPECTACULAR 🛬✈️*
everyone just relaxing on the beach and every avgeek just yelling HOLY SHIT IS THAT A B-1?!
Wrong plane, but anyone else yell "MAVERICK!"
@@KyloRenRadio I almost did. But instead I ended up sobbing and whispering "Goose, talk to me Goose?" 😥 On the bright side it reminded me to take my Prozac.
here is my good airline advice just at start use 20-35 power then when you start to take off just make ur power go with the flow and when ur in the air at a good height above the clouds or a bit less just leave it at 75-86 and just cruise and to start to land just descrease it and go with the flow then just butter landing and good job
*That's CargoBust.*
Never underestimate the power of nature
1:13 looks like windshear. i think thats why pilots did not retract flaps and gear as per procedure
Hard landing? How else would you get the rope while landing that thing on a carrier?
The bank angle on the bone!
The 747 definitely flared & was pitched up quite significantly for a landing, the sink rate could have been attenuated earlier but it's a heavy cargo plane and sometimes that's just the way it is, pretty decent job I thought.
The 777 Crosswind landing was far sketchier.
The Naha airport one was featured in the last comp wasn't it?
Struggling to climb is just the normal A340 operating procedure 😂
Pilot actually flared but too early, he has to let the nose drop to keep coming down and develops a sink rate, there is definitely a significant crosswind. There is a way to cushion it but younger pilots who haven’t flown pure pitch and power jets often don’t know how.
some people say that the mahan a340 is still climbing to this day
Air Tahiti Nui retired their last A340 4 years ago. How old is this footage?
That’s what I do in my msfs.
It it true that I read somewhere that the a340 is a pretty underpowered plane? Based on its apparent struggling to climb with the gear hanging down it would certainly seem that way. I suppose it could have been piloting or a configuration issue or many other things I suppose. I seem to have remembered a lot of disdain for the variant anything specific about it people don't like?
Flared too early, then pushed - glad those two days of psychometric testing are producing such competent pilots.
Fun fact: despite having 4 engines and higher MTOW, the A340-300 is less powerful than the A330-300, which it shares its fuselage with.
Whoa !! This isn’t a video for people who are nervous about flying !! 😳
Reality check on your first input. That was a great landing by pilots in a strong crosswind. The flare was near perfect.
At 00:19 the stabilizers move up and that was a normal landing.
That was a Bouncer no matter what anyone says!
Surprised if it came out with all tires intact!
I watch it hundred times !
@@fluchterschoen since i see it million times ! Bruh !
The a340-300 powered by 5 apu
Captain Joe piloting that Cargolux??
1:03 Did the maint Crew forget to eject the nose gear RBF plug?
There was enough flare on the B747. The rate of descent and airspeed were a bit fast.
Landings always look hard from behind.
Bro the pilot flared durham
I wouldn't say no flare. Just early initial flare with no follow up flare.
Seeing the clips on this channel, I often wonder if elsewhere in the world you can get a commercial license from a claw machine...
2:40 not gonna lie, this looks pretty scary
You haven’t heard a loud jet until you’ve heard a B-1 in afterburner.
I call your Bone, and raise you a Habu :)
747 flared, he didn’t want to float in the crosswind and have to go around most likely, but he did flare. The 340 with the gear down could be to cool the brakes before they retract the gear. If they got the brakes hot on their arrival, they may have needed to leave it extended for cooling.
The A340 really doesn’t have quick enough turn around for the brakes to be an issue. This is more likely to have a deactiveer brake and having to wait for a wheel to spin down.
747 was flared, but that rate of decent was another issue.
Bad to the BONE
Nah, it’s just an “assertive touchdown”! Looks like a slightly early round out attempt followed by over correction, correct decision to dump it on the runway rather than exacerbate the PIO.
Not sure about the ‘crosswind gust’ - happens at exactly the same time the rudder deflects, so may well be pilot induced, ie insufficient aileron into wind with the rudder application.
Flared not once but twice!
Captain joe at it again😂
JK
For Three Minutes of Aviation that Rockwell was different. Kind of nice though.
Boeing owns the B-1B now. There are no parts for repairs.
2:30 It is a B1-B, the name Lancer came about in 1990. My friend as a kid, I played with, was team leader of the guidance system development. As a kid, he built gas engine powered planes from scratch. On 30 June 1977, Carter announced that the B-1A would be canceled. 💩Reagan won the election in a landslide, Reagan decided the best solution was to procure both the B-1 and ATB, and on 2 October 1981 he announced that 100 B-1s were to be ordered to fill the LRCA role.💪
In January 1982, the U.S. Air Force awarded two contracts to Rockwell worth a combined $2.2 billion for the development and production of 100 new B-1 bombers. 1984, Reagan won re-election in a landslide victory, carrying 525 electoral votes, 49 states, and 58.8% of the popular vote.
Struggles to climb because of gear not being retracted.
Can't retract gear until positive rate of climb.
That's a Catch-22 if I've ever heard one!
The A340 has more than enough power to climb even with the wheels down. It never struggled to climb.
The A340 has always been considered underpowered.
Plenty of flare there.
Proof that's a former Navy F-18 pilot :22
If the enemy sees or hears the B1 bomber, they are already dead.... Bad ass plane.
Looked like it flared to me.
And the A340 has 4 hair dryers for engines 😂😂
The A340-300, yeah but the A345 and 346 have bigger, more powerful engines.
A340 usually struggle to climb so - gear doesnt make much of a difference here :P
2:00 possibly brilliant landing? maximize surface exposure air braking and let the nose come down at low speed. not something I'd try but that pilot knew what he was doing.
pure butter...just the 7 touchdowns might be a little tough on the tires
But Captain Brian over there had 37 feet of flare.