Let's Talk About Cheaters - Dead By Daylight

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  • @KURRDA
    @KURRDA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +765

    That discord screenshot of them discussing holding you hostage was so unbelievably cringe. Imagine literally wasting your life away trying to annoy someone who could not care less

    • @ryokiritani4187
      @ryokiritani4187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +83

      Fr, you could literally do anything else, you could be studying, you could be learning skills, you could be playing the game normally, but you decide to be a loser and ruin games for people lol

    • @ghostface2156
      @ghostface2156 2 ปีที่แล้ว +43

      These people love having power over others typical narcissits. They feel like they have no power over their lives so they do it in a game to others who are trying to enjoy their game.

    • @Letycs
      @Letycs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +39

      @@ryokiritani4187 I think what's worse here is that they're targeting people that make a living off of the game like Spooks. This is his livelihood, how he pays his bills to support his wife and kids. They aren't just being sore losers or trolls to ruin someone's game, they're actively screwing with his income.

    • @poopyheadspoop3758
      @poopyheadspoop3758 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@Letycs well alot of streamers make money still because they can play on other platforms or like how Scott Jund does it where he spams ads and makes a decent chunk of money

    • @Letycs
      @Letycs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@poopyheadspoop3758 That doesn't make what these hackers do acceptable all of a sudden, just makes it worse.

  • @Triple8_Extras
    @Triple8_Extras 2 ปีที่แล้ว +471

    Hacker: I'm holding you hostage now
    Spookn: You fool, I have 70 alternative consoles!

    • @gamergirl7737
      @gamergirl7737 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      Lmao 😭 perfect reference

    • @mainexploit
      @mainexploit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I love how u have 70 likes too

    • @PurpleDrawer
      @PurpleDrawer ปีที่แล้ว

      I was thinking the same thing

    • @prahanormal
      @prahanormal ปีที่แล้ว

      *alfred coleman voice*

    • @nateandersen9061
      @nateandersen9061 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      “Fool, this isn’t even my final console”

  • @Halloweenowl
    @Halloweenowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +447

    For anyone that gets held hostage cause they are a streamer and can't swap between multiple devices like SpooknJukes, the prevailing method to get hackers to stop is to start spamming ads on your channel constantly until they leave.
    That will not only take the screen away from them and their activity, but you will get a bunch of money. Hackers get FURIOUS realizing their hostage taking is not only inconsequential, but they are also indirectly flooding the streamer with cash.

    • @JBMetalProductions
      @JBMetalProductions 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      ehh that doesn't really work tho lol. The whole point is to get the devs to take the DC penalty off the game. But honestly, this whole video and everything is just odd because it just shows that people take DBD waaaay too serious lol.

    • @standardchances
      @standardchances 2 ปีที่แล้ว +70

      @@JBMetalProductions take dbd too seriously in which way? hackers taking it so seriously to the point of disturbing and holding streamers hostage? or for innocent regular people who just have a strong niche interest in the game lol

    • @SeanzuTV
      @SeanzuTV 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

      This just doesn't work - for large streamers it's fine, they have hundreds of subs that'll not be impacted by the adverts and will get to continue watching and have a conversation with the streamer, smaller streamers who's viewers are much less committed and still trying to grow will have any potentially new viewers dip out as soon as they have to watch a single ad.

    • @Halloweenowl
      @Halloweenowl 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      @@JBMetalProductions You can't take the DC penalty off though. A lot of people that are upset with the DH nerf are leaving matches to try and throw the stats to force BHVR to bring it back. Imagine no time limit to that for them.

    • @PolarTheCreator
      @PolarTheCreator 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      This most certainly won’t work for small time streamers that don’t have 2 consoles. You do realize the small amount of revenue generated per ad correct? Unless you think that spamming ads for a 4 hour stream to make an additional $1 is worth it. I get that you watch another content creators video on what he does, but there is less than 20 streamers that have the amount of viewers necessary for this to make any difference. The rest are essentially losing an opportunity to grow their community and are actually killing their own stream because only the subs can talk to the streamer and the rest would leave the stream losing their views which effects their overall fan base.

  • @colekindaslow
    @colekindaslow 2 ปีที่แล้ว +515

    when you mentioned playing on mobile I laughed so hard. I think its so entertaining seeing how you and everyone else defeats these cheaters. I hope bhvr eventually gets rid of all the cheaters so everyone can have fun again.

    • @Doncroft1
      @Doncroft1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cheaters are like a disease. You can ward them off, invent new cures, but there's always going to be more diseases.

    • @JordanPlayz158
      @JordanPlayz158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yeah, I don't get the issue, game dev is hard and you have deadlines for updates but... how hard is it to check, on hook, if 1 player, kill player, if the killer gets the hooked player status and animation, the dedicated server passed that info through, so why not add a basic check

    • @cainthings
      @cainthings 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't get why BHVR doesn't hardware ban them?

    • @salvo88
      @salvo88 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@cainthings They can use spoofers to get around that

    • @abortthesentientfetus8447
      @abortthesentientfetus8447 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      dox and put a hit out on them

  • @luizg8161
    @luizg8161 2 ปีที่แล้ว +174

    hackers: we have a army!!!!
    spookn: I have all platforms!!!

    • @oinkytheink1228
      @oinkytheink1228 2 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Hackers: F**k

    • @themastermind3173
      @themastermind3173 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@oinkytheink1228 Hackers: me

    • @JohnSmith-io4wm
      @JohnSmith-io4wm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@themastermind3173 you a hacker?

    • @sebastianimation6100
      @sebastianimation6100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@JohnSmith-io4wm you poor soul do not understand the joke

    • @Oliver-Thyella
      @Oliver-Thyella 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      We’re about to get the quad hacker cam. So much content!

  • @pokerusfreak8194
    @pokerusfreak8194 2 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    The fact that the devs still havent added a kill switch for the game to end once end game collapse ends is absolutely a failure on their part. The community shouldnt have to be dealing with this in the first place. Bad ban practices, unhelpful anti-cheat, and no kill switch for the game in the form of a "give up" button for end game or an automatic one for end game collapse, the devs have honestly just failed on this front.

    • @marcmil4064
      @marcmil4064 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      ** See edited answer below as well! My allegations were wrong **
      The devs are clueless about basic it security stuff. Besides the things you mentioned, I looked at the behaviour account webpage. It can show me my current password in plain text (!).
      They state that "We recommend you pick a unique password that you do not use for any other online account."
      I'd recommend that too since the fact that they can show me my password in plain text means that they store it like that in their databases, which is a big no-go. Passwords should be stored in a hashed (sort of one-way "encryption") form, where the original plaintext password is essentially unrecoverable.
      Edit: I had very little time when I wrote this, so I could not verify the finding at all. At first i searched through the network responses from the server for my password, but nothing showed up. It might have still been possible that the JavaScript codes retains the password after log-in. But it seems that my browser's password manager (auto-fillin) was the culprit. :/ Welp, I've not used this password manager for any important web site but I did not deem Behaviors website as important enough to warrant using my external password manager which does no auto-fillin whatsoever.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 ปีที่แล้ว

      deeper then that. well that to honestly we don't need EGC for now: between cunty survivors and cheats. just timer: 3rd gen done 7minuts: as a nod to wes. hard stop. match stops, the. end.
      Turns out they found a debug enabled client and that company sells it..like. OmG BHVR this is so basic gamedevelopment: on a open platform like Unreal: turn of the singleplayer cheatcodes. and then sandbox your developer mode to be VPN only for employees of BHVR.
      AND you know the biggest company now? hire some of the staff, while suing the company-- trust me: just the pressure from them trying to cruicify the company? with very real legal action to users? you will see activity drop because its like: nock nock motherfucker, gamewarden here your ass off to jail for a very long time- oh what's that you suddenly don't know how to do that? funny--we'll be keeping an eye on you.
      Works for every other studio.

  • @Paotato69
    @Paotato69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +144

    The desperation in that one discord screenshot is exactly how I imagine these losers, the fact they're freaking out so much about wanting to "HOLD HIM" is so pathetic

    • @Dreigonix
      @Dreigonix 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I feel like with how obsessed they are, they do wanna hold him, but in a different way. Which is weird- c’mon, people, he’s already married!

    • @Paotato69
      @Paotato69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@Dreigonix deep down they just want someone to love and hold them

    • @NunyaBezwacks
      @NunyaBezwacks ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paotato69 don't we all tho

    • @commanderdemonno9819
      @commanderdemonno9819 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      _buddy we're not playing texas hold 'em you don't need to get so hasty_

  • @NovaNova11.
    @NovaNova11. 2 ปีที่แล้ว +167

    One time I was spirit on the crows map and 2 seconds after I loaded in a gen popped. Then I saw a Claire zooming around and hooking herself. There was a cute Laurie in my game, she wanted me to hook her but I declined. I wanted her to escape but she stayed in endgame and got killed by the entity. I will never forget that Laurie

    • @Helena-me6mp
      @Helena-me6mp 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      cute!!

    • @firestorm517
      @firestorm517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      I try to give myself to the killer when the game starts and 5 gens pop and the gate is opened and they escape instantly lol. It's happened a lot since the last update. They usually don't want the kill tho

    • @KingBurger52
      @KingBurger52 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      The same thing happened with me and a Nea. A Dwight kept blinding me and even when I downed him, he just got up and zoomed away. The other two escaped just wanting to leave out of annoyance, but Nea stood behind next to me and died. :(
      I'll never forget her.

    • @firestorm517
      @firestorm517 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      @@KingBurger52 I'd actually do the same but when I have killers that won't hook they tend to be motioning to leave.. i.e. swinging at the gate, head nodding etc. in those situations I wouldn't let the whole EGC timer finish cuz I would assume that would be annoying

    • @smokeytarantino8836
      @smokeytarantino8836 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same if we’re close to endgame and the killer hasn’t gotten anyone I’ll sacrifice myself. Sometimes I’ll get a nice killer that’ll give me the hatch. But either way I don’t mind being the sacrifice especially since you don’t know if you’re facing a baby killer

  • @Hexdethrone
    @Hexdethrone 2 ปีที่แล้ว +346

    It makes me so angry that there are hackers that go into streams and totally disrupt it or even stop it. This is how a lot of people make their living, it is their job, how they provide for their family… what on earth do hackers aim to get from this? It’s just stupid, childish and down right disgusting

    • @Trigger__Happy
      @Trigger__Happy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +66

      Most of them are 16 year olds living in their moms basements with nothing better to do and no responsibilities, so they do their best to get attention in any form possible, good or bad, and just make people as miserable as they can.

    • @delayeddeloy7761
      @delayeddeloy7761 2 ปีที่แล้ว +54

      @@Trigger__Happy woah woah woah, dont insult the 16 year old basement dwellers. They're not as bad as these hackers if we're being honest LMAOOOOO

    • @ManUtdBoy13
      @ManUtdBoy13 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Trigger__Happy I don't think that's the case anymore. I sadly think these are pathetic failures of adults that does this. Most of these cunts that i encountered throughout games has been more on the 20-30 years scale then 15-19.

    • @AliCat000
      @AliCat000 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@delayeddeloy7761 😭😭😭

    • @JordanPlayz158
      @JordanPlayz158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @@Trigger__Happy woah woah woah, don't blame this on my generation lol, get it right, probably some 40 year old basement dwellers xD

  • @ThaMango1
    @ThaMango1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +269

    It's so vile that people work this hard to ruin people's jobs and source of income just for their own sick enjoyment

    • @foxesnroses
      @foxesnroses 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They're called demons the black mirror creates them, Welcome to the beast system , Everything has a polar opposite

    • @SlimPug
      @SlimPug 2 ปีที่แล้ว +22

      @@foxesnroses tf ? 🤣😂😂

    • @mr.l5783
      @mr.l5783 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They’re just losers who want to inflict their misery on others. They’re just sad…sad people.

    • @sl5945
      @sl5945 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      you're implying they're working hard when all they are doing is running a program that they paid for, theres no work involved, theres no talent etc, theyre just cucks who paid money to someone with actual coding and hacking skills to download their product, to do this lame shit lol

    • @Nzzertral
      @Nzzertral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Just people who are mad or sensitive or have something to prove and nothing to be proud of so they feel the need to ruin something nice that a community enjoys

  • @schwarzopal4682
    @schwarzopal4682 2 ปีที่แล้ว +50

    Imagine being so pathetic and on a low level in your life you are WAITING the whole day for a person to come online and play a game just to ruin their experience with the game. Their parents must be so proud. You are dealing it the right way! They don't deserve it better.

  • @noogs-
    @noogs- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    1:14 "does the anti cheat eventually detect you? Im trying to be as discrete as possible" sad people actually wanna cheat and hope to not be banned so they can gain a subtle advantage 💀 jeez id be so embarrassed if i were that guy

    • @masterfiregg4346
      @masterfiregg4346 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Just imagine how many people you vsed and some of them were hackers that are trying to not be obvious, wall hacks is one of those. I had a game the other day where 1 survivor did not fall for any of my mindgames and it looked like he had wallhacks but i cant be 100% sure... sad that there are people like this

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 ปีที่แล้ว

      That to.

  • @SpoopyGhost18
    @SpoopyGhost18 2 ปีที่แล้ว +153

    I experienced a cheater in dbd that literally was hooking himself,flying and healing instantly but he really sucked lol

    • @disposable3167
      @disposable3167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

      all the obvious hackers are always bad. i think its because theyre new and just "having fun" cheating in dbd before they move onto the next game to cheat in. also the game is basically playing itself for them so they never even get the chance to learn anything.

    • @lloydbarger6596
      @lloydbarger6596 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I caught one once. He unhooked himself. Did all the gens instantly and dissapeared immediately

    • @randygrainger8110
      @randygrainger8110 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I’ve been in matches with that shit. It’s always me as survivor in solo q and some other survivor hacks and ruins the whole game.

    • @undead_ban_kai9154
      @undead_ban_kai9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Had a Claudette who did the same she was was so dumb me and Wraith even managed to kill her xD

    • @arcyarcanine
      @arcyarcanine 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Literally??? And you didn't call the suicide hotline?

  • @ladypseudo6096
    @ladypseudo6096 2 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    That's pretty much my take on it. My grandma used to say 'If they're picking on ME, they're leaving somebody ELSE alone'.

  • @evilgod5666
    @evilgod5666 2 ปีที่แล้ว +69

    How BHVR does nothing about hackers and still have a DC penalty in place is hilarious

    • @ryokiritani4187
      @ryokiritani4187 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      I can't grasp my head around how they are so incompetent they can't fix such a blatant issue that could easily kill their game. Sure, hackers are fucking pathetic, but BHVR needs to get their shit together

    • @sawoon337
      @sawoon337 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@ryokiritani4187 The thing about avoiding people to hack in your game is that it isn't that easy to deal with it by yourself (like build a entirely new anti cheat just for your game, since this costs $$$$$$ af). Let's all hope that they have a way to abandon the easy anti-cheat systemn cause they (easy-anti cheat programn) are terrible at this. Most games that use easy anti-cheat have lots of hackers on and it's kinda terrible.

    • @JordanPlayz158
      @JordanPlayz158 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@sawoon337 they don't need to build a new anticheat or do anything that'd cost a lot of money, it's as simple as they need to NOT TRUST THE CLIENT, do some basic logic checks, if survivor sends hook packet to dedicated server, 1. Is the killer carrying the survivor, if yes, 2. How many players are left, 1. Kill player

    • @lkayde1996
      @lkayde1996 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ikr it is

    • @Nope_Nope-
      @Nope_Nope- 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      DC penalty is a necessary evil but it should never be as punishing as it is currently 5 mins max is my opinion. Also I feel like there should be no penalty if end game is triggered or a certain amount of time is passed . Sure you’ll lose blood points but dcing in the end game collapse almost never hurts anyone but yourself.

  • @Julie_Nea
    @Julie_Nea 2 ปีที่แล้ว +88

    This actually happened when I was playing survivor, and it happened to be an Ace and I believe the Jake (unless it was Dwight), who were hacking.
    The funny part being, they didn't reveal any cheats until I was on death hook. The Ace used the hook cheat to go in front of the hook I was about to be placed on, so the killer couldn't get the kill.
    And so they chased after Ace, I got the trap off of my head. The sad part was they had just bought the game, it was their second match.
    Anyways, I gave her the kill since I didn't want to be associated with them. Once the game was over, I gave the killer a quick "ggwp, sorry the Ace and Jake (Dwight?) were hacking. I hope you have a good next game."
    They thought I was cheating as well because those two had been. Though I'm 99% sure you can't cheat on xbox, even if you could- I don't even know how to work my xbox properly T-T
    Had the situation cleared up, but its sad they uninstalled because of terrible people like that ruining it for everyone.

    • @aeroumasmith
      @aeroumasmith 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Great...

    • @tobeymaguire9371
      @tobeymaguire9371 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      This makes me really sad, game is already losing players and cheaters don't care because they dont spend the time to get good at the game like the rest of us do. They can move onto the next game after this 1 dies and won't care coz they can cheat on those games too, while the rest of us have to put in the effort to learn the game and git gud.

    • @Shiro_Sage
      @Shiro_Sage 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      That's really unfortunate the player uninstalled and really unlucky they got cheaters in their second game. I just passed 200 hours recently and have only had one (at least blatant) cheater in my game which was probably somewhere around the 150-160 hour mark. Either I'm really lucky or I'm just not worth cheating against since I'm not a streamer.

    • @mann_idonotreadreplies
      @mann_idonotreadreplies 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Cool story bro.

    • @whygamingwhy2404
      @whygamingwhy2404 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mann_idonotreadreplies You can cheat on egg box uwu

  • @TheRealGamer2052
    @TheRealGamer2052 2 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    This takes the meme “I am four parallel universes ahead of you” to a new level, you have multiple platforms to counter this and I would find it super funny seeing 3 hacker cams while you just sit there enjoying the game

  • @funguy6190
    @funguy6190 2 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    The chance to hold four snipers hostage is hilarious, but kinda sad that the problem is this big

  • @slatebronco4165
    @slatebronco4165 2 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    This was a nice change of pace for dbd videos, maybe one day we won't ever have to worry about hackers

  • @A_Weird_Angel
    @A_Weird_Angel 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    YOU FOOL, I HAVE 4 ALTERNATE ACCOUNTS! WHAT ARE YOU GONNA DO, TAKE ME HOSTAGE ON ALL 4? BY THE TIME I'M STUCK ON SWITCH, MY PS4 LOBBY WILL HAVE ALREADY BEEN FREED

  • @DerPekko
    @DerPekko 2 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Perfect timing, I was just getting held hostage by 3 cheaters. Too bad I dont have a second console, I only play on switch.
    So I just decided to watch some videos or streams, glad to stuble upon this.

    • @Cursory3
      @Cursory3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I had that happen to me before. 3 were keeping me hostage while 4 gens were left so they got 1 survivor which I believe was a Kate do all the gens and the 3 hackers were body block keeping me hostage so they could get away while still having some bloodpoints while I was enjoying some time hearing gens pop till the last one did and they were waiting for the gate to open so they could "levitate" away. But ofcourse it didn't end there, one hacker decided to stay behind and I was just looking at them, 360 hitting them and that's when they had enough and gave me the kill. Oddly satisfying I beat a hacker.

    • @MayFleet
      @MayFleet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Majority of the cheaters I've seen are on PC so I just turn off crossplay because I don't wanna deal with that nonsense

    • @Cursory3
      @Cursory3 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@MayFleet I am on PC so turning off crossplay is not gonna help me

    • @MayFleet
      @MayFleet 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Cursory3 well if you're on steam you could turn off crossplay and get rid of half the cheaters because most of the cheaters are from Epic because of that free week they had

    • @DerPekko
      @DerPekko 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@MayFleet I as a Switch player cant turn of crossplay. Not because the que times would be 40 minutes but its Physically impossible to turn it off.

  • @angjiapheng
    @angjiapheng 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    It always baffles me that this kind of situation is easily detectable by a machine, which you know: end-game collapse last more than 5 minutes. They can activate a listener when EGC starts, and forcibly end the game when the timer on the listener exceeds 5 minutes. It is not a solution, but at least it can somewhat "handle" the hostage situation.

  • @thatgayvillain3234
    @thatgayvillain3234 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    Tinfoil hat theory here... what if the mori change is a stealth way to combat hostage situations? if the end of the match cinema scene they intend for it to become triggers when the game determines the last survivor is downed/hooked then maybe this style of hostage will be shut down as a side effect.?

    • @KURRDA
      @KURRDA 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      That would be a smart concept but might be giving BHVR too much credit. I think the mori change will have it where if one survivor is alive during EGC, if the killer downs them, it automatically goes into the mori animation. But cheaters can make sure they never get downed or do their dumb floating in the air thing.

  • @chaosflash912
    @chaosflash912 2 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    Just a suggestion in case they really do try and get you on all platforms - if you have any single player games on any platform you're not being held hostage in, have that hacker cam there and play a different game until they leave. That way they can't do that deadlock on all platforms since I can smell desperation coming from that server.

  • @BlayconX
    @BlayconX 2 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    What I find most impressive about this is how BHVR has allowed this particular "mechanic" to continue for this long. And I don't mean the hacks themselves, but whatever it is that stops the game from ending when the hackers hook themselves like that. Is it because the entity's kill animation never takes place? And if so, is it really that difficult to add a timer that activates right after the endgame collapse ends, and that if a survivor is still in the game by the time this second timer runs out, they get kicked from the match? Normal survivors WILL die to the collapse, so it's clear that any one that remains after that is a hacker.
    As an extra precaution, I would make it so any survivor that gets kicked by this mechanic doens't get a penatly for matchmaking, nor points. It might sound weird that no penalty should be applied for this, but let's be honest, the hackers don't care about points, and they will, most likely, have a way to bypass the matchmaking penalty. If they have a way to keep other survivors in the game until this second timer stops, then at least the normal players won't be punished when kicked.
    If that's truly too hard for BHVR to code, then why not just add a time limit to the match? Matches rarely go past 30 minutes, and if they do, they were probably boring af anyway. Most likely two remaining survivors being as immersed as they can. So let's say we do set the timer to 30 or whatever the reasonable time might be. After that, the match ends like a draw, and everyone can jsut jump to the next one. Problem solved.
    If even that is too hard to code, then just remove the stupid penalties for a while. People disconect regardless, and if not, they kill themselves on hook. If you save them in time, they might go afk, run straight back to the killer or start sabotaging the game by dropping pallets or blowing up gens. If someone wants to leave, they will. It can't be stopped. And with that being the case, isn't it simply wiser to just remove the feature until the hostage situation is solved?
    Sorry for the wall of text. Got a bit too excited there lol

    • @undead_ban_kai9154
      @undead_ban_kai9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      There is already a time limit. After around 2 hours everyone gets automatically kicked. I´d say they should reduce it to at least 45 minutes so if someone has no other platforms they don´t have to wait that long until they can play again. 30 minutes would probably be viable too but i had matches that lasted over 30 minutes just cause the last 2 kept hiding the whole time not even trying to do the last gen so 45 would be the best in my opinion.

    • @Paramore_your_Decode
      @Paramore_your_Decode 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@undead_ban_kai9154 2 hours is a lot :/

    • @undead_ban_kai9154
      @undead_ban_kai9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Paramore_your_Decode yeah sadly it takes so long to kick everyone. 30-45 minutes would be so much better. Matches would rarely go that long anyway

    • @Ebbie155
      @Ebbie155 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@undead_ban_kai9154 I’d say even if games do last that long to check for inactive users and all that and end the game if there is any

    • @undead_ban_kai9154
      @undead_ban_kai9154 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Ebbie155 true a check if endgame time exceeds the set time then kick everyone if it does would be great

  • @Minious1020
    @Minious1020 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Spooks: "I'm not stuck in here with you. You're stuck in here, with me!'

  • @BEEDRILL303
    @BEEDRILL303 2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    I'm trying so hard not to laugh when you pulled up the app, god I can't wait to see this. Also caution the game will light your phone a blaze when playing DBD mobile.

  • @Cwibacca
    @Cwibacca 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    As a casual observer, I enjoy the hacker cam. It's very amusing. Appreciate the content, Spooks.

  • @APRILtheCowardlyGamer
    @APRILtheCowardlyGamer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    These hackers are so immature and have no life. I played with 2 of my friends and a random and we all got downed simultaneously by a deathslinger killer 5 seconds after the start of the trial. He was also able to teleport to where we were hiding and it looks like he was also using wall hacks. He even trash talked me in the end game chat and asked to follow his "twitch". It turns out he was impersonating another streamer. When I visited this twitch streamer he said that they played with another player and he got pissed and started hacking his game and his friends.

  • @gamecompany480
    @gamecompany480 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Honestly im surprised they even try with you. You honestly have the most positive aditude about this.

  • @samsonpeden5353
    @samsonpeden5353 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I found your channel 1-2 months ago, & have become an avid viewer. I just wanted to say: when I watch your cheater compilations, I get a huge kick out of the unique way you deal with ‘em. You’ve become my fav DBD creator!(Otz is awesome and all, but you’re just so wholesome and funny my guy) Keep up the good stuff my man! Maybe I’ll hop in a stream one of these days.

  • @takrak
    @takrak 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    A good fix for being held hostage in a game could be where a short period after the endgame collapse completes (around 30 seconds or so) any remaining survivors will be disconnected.

    • @gorkskoal9315
      @gorkskoal9315 ปีที่แล้ว

      even better: matches have a hard time limit: (arguably in theme of the game: a demon summoned to feed a carniverous fog) 30 minutes: 10 minut timer count down? everryone everything gets a stacking debuff, and just nukes the map.

  • @nosuff1839
    @nosuff1839 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I absolutely love how you deal with cheaters. It's soo hilarious to me that you just switch platforms when they hold your game hostage XD

  • @PrismaticMouse
    @PrismaticMouse 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Honestly, you're doing the right thing. You end up wasting their time and you also make money off of them while not giving them a single bad reaction that they can feed off of. I dont see how you could deal with it any better. Keep it up

  • @raistlinmcguire2786
    @raistlinmcguire2786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Dumb idea but after a few minutes of being held hostage it would be funny if the killer could open the hatch and just leave the game

    • @Dabajaws
      @Dabajaws 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      A killer hatch would actually be a funny mechanic, like either if the killer chooses to give up or if the game goes on for long enough a hatch spawns with red energy and they walk in it and leave

    • @raistlinmcguire2786
      @raistlinmcguire2786 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@Dabajaws now I'm picturing wesker, when he's in the game saying screw this and leaving

  • @HeyJoJoTF2
    @HeyJoJoTF2 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I like the hacker cam it is literally like hanging someone up to laugh at them together

  • @theSUICIDEfox
    @theSUICIDEfox 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The year is 2032. Everyone in every game is just another SpooknJuke alt.

  • @anyfightinggamezfine69
    @anyfightinggamezfine69 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think this is great. Hopefully more content creators get on board with this idea

  • @calcium2884
    @calcium2884 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    him showing all of his consoles to play dbd was the ultimate flex

  • @guntherstewart8941
    @guntherstewart8941 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    This man is ready to go to war pulling out the phone and the switch

  • @ThndrMge
    @ThndrMge 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Funny, I was watching your video while waiting for a killer lobby and my very first game of the night was against a cheater. Really spoils the fun of the game. Hopefully BHVR can do something about this soon-ish.

  • @CoriolanusSnowden
    @CoriolanusSnowden ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I honestly HOPE I’m in your Lobby and it gets taken hostage. I have been trying to record Footage for the Boon Totems forever! For ASMR Purposes. The sound helps me sleep. I’m thinking Red forest..with the boon sound OMGGGG..

  • @alleosussquirt8041
    @alleosussquirt8041 2 ปีที่แล้ว +49

    Can't fix the cheaters, but they can focus on a dating sim for some reason.

    • @Mulcam29
      @Mulcam29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They've been working on both

    • @sabo1789
      @sabo1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Fixing the cheaters is only going to be an issue when their playernumbers drop by a large amount. The dating sim was easily made by giving it to another company to make and generates more money for BHVR
      Cheaters wont be slowed down by a large amount until it starts costing them a very, very large amount of money

    • @Mulcam29
      @Mulcam29 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sabo1789 Weird because they've been working to fix the cheaters.

    • @SonuTheNecro
      @SonuTheNecro 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      yes because the game health devs and actual content devs are the same people. Like people saying bhvr only focuses on skins like you want the artist to code?

    • @sabo1789
      @sabo1789 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Mulcam29 Why defend them when you know its false? They have been "Working to fix the cheaters" just like how CoD has been doing the same, its been multiple years and they haven't done anything to even ease the cheater issue slightly other than to just say "we are working on it" and ban a few thousand accounts that will be back online within the day because of cheap keys, it being free constantly on Epic and alt accounts

  • @dylannzambrano
    @dylannzambrano ปีที่แล้ว

    2:01
    - "Why are you impersonating SpookNJukes?"
    - "My goals are beyond your understanding"

  • @xvfriday2183
    @xvfriday2183 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haha yooo spook on some smoke 😆 love it dude, I think the way you react to hackers and trolls is brilliant 👏.

  • @onyxcitaro2012
    @onyxcitaro2012 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The ‘turning the tables’ idea reminds me of another streamer who did something similar. PotatoLegion, stayed in game with the end game counter going for around 2 hours before the hacker gave up/dc’d; he booted up minecraft and had the hacker cam on and it is a great idea to do something else or use another account when this happens.

  • @doomguy3830
    @doomguy3830 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Spooks with 4 different platforms to play dbd to hard counter cheaters is the biggest giga chad move of the year

  • @Mitael1
    @Mitael1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should do a thing where chat can use channel points to feed the hacker or pet the hacker, etc. Doing that would cause an animation and or sound to play on the hacker-cam.

  • @sixxsoup
    @sixxsoup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    i've gone like the past 2 years seeing the same amount of hackers i've seen in the past week, this is getting insane.

  • @Mizumii25
    @Mizumii25 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    See I think the best part of this is one of what you said: you're wasting their time. They have to keep moving something to stay there if i've heard right so they have to focus on that instead of going after someone else with that account. They wanna waste you're time, their time is getting wasted too.

  • @ajkcool
    @ajkcool 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing with keeping them there is it's kind of like talking to a scam caller. Yeah it interrupts what you're doing, but keeping them there is preventing them from bugging anyone else

  • @mjbeam1492
    @mjbeam1492 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As an active mobile player, we have tons of hackers too, fair warning. I think it's awesome you are able to play their game against them. Also love the Bo Burnham shirt.

  • @JustSomeDinosaurPerson
    @JustSomeDinosaurPerson ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Blows my mind that the game is designed in such a way that the server, which is running the match at this point, doesn't take precedent and override the client's values whenever calls are made.
    Just...bruh. This is something basic MMO's have had solved for years...

  • @hufjgoiz
    @hufjgoiz 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I haven’t seen a cheater in dbd in months so they’re definitely targeting you and probably other creators as well which is honestly just insane. I can’t imagine why they would choose that life 🤦🏾‍♀️ I also think you should still report because even if they’re still able to just make new accounts, behavior is constantly changing the way they do things so maybe and hopefully they’ll come up with a way to find their IP addresses or something and ban them permanently. I’m sure they’re working on it, it just takes time. Sorry you’re going through this and hope it gets resolved!

  • @0mazin
    @0mazin 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I love how switch is such an undesirable option, even playing on mobile comes before it lmao

  • @sterile_coffeegc3801
    @sterile_coffeegc3801 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Spooks I respect your dedication in your work, and your way of dealing with hackers has been an incredibly entertaining way of seeing hackers getting smacked! Keep being you my dude!

  • @DeerestAshe
    @DeerestAshe 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    on console turning off cross play might also help cut down on the hackers from PC

  • @SekiroSloth
    @SekiroSloth 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love how they put the metaphorical black bag over spooks and he just gets up and puts the bag back over their head, best stalemate ever.

  • @alexandrea3288
    @alexandrea3288 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Can we talk about the DC penalty? I get why some might see the DC penalty as good but for those that don't have great Internet gets disconnected from the match that they did not intentionally leave and gets punished for up to 72 hrs and longer. I think that its just not talked about much and when you try to appeal to explain it was a big misunderstanding they basically tell you it's not there problem you have trash Internet. I'm just fed up I wish they would either fix there DC penalty to were they can recognize when you intentionally leave the game vs when you disconnect due to network issues like I have video proof of me running the killer and get kicked mid chase. Am I the only one that feels this way?

    • @JohnSmith-io4wm
      @JohnSmith-io4wm 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Unfortunately, yes you are. The penalties were instated for players and streamers who would whine and false DC so that they could avoid losing or trying to smurf their accounts. Unfortunately you’ll have to blame those streamers and their mindless sheep that follow them for these practices. The penalties should stay

    • @HazZzur
      @HazZzur 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The problem is that a DC penalty must exist in a game like this, otherwise people can use DCing to deny the killer and advantage by hooking, or opening hatch for their remaining teammate faster etc. No team-based game can allow DCs to go unpunished (though killer side wouldn't need the penalty).
      And to your problem specifically, there is no way to distinguish between intentional DC and bad internet, unfortunately. There COULD be a rejoin feature like other games that, so it doesn't kick you out of the game instantly but waits for a few minutes for you to reconnect. Hopefully BHVR looks into that in the long run.

    • @seenbett3rdays642
      @seenbett3rdays642 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@HazZzur You do know this game used to have no dc penalty for years right?

    • @Paramore_your_Decode
      @Paramore_your_Decode 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@JohnSmith-io4wm does dc penalty eventually get reset if you haven't play dbd for a while?

    • @Live2Laugh27
      @Live2Laugh27 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I wish they’d take it off because I absolutely HATE the huntress and her lullaby is the most ANNOYING shit I have ever heard. I will no longer play against her it’s ridiculous how annoying it is.

  • @GabrielCappato1
    @GabrielCappato1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You can also create any number of accounts on PS5 and switch any time you want

  • @monstrosity6738
    @monstrosity6738 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Mans got Dbd on everything. He probably got Dbd on his Gameboy.

  • @TikyX0
    @TikyX0 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What i think its the best part is that, they try so hard to get you mad and hold you hostage, but at the end they are the ones being hold hostage. Bc as you said, you change platform and keep going, while they just sit there looking like a dumb dumb floating in the air. More creators should do the same. Having PS to PC to mobile to switch. Its 4 times that they have to get you, to actually do something to you. And still you would probably turn the tables and keep milking them. keep the good vids, love ya!

  • @Waffl3B1T
    @Waffl3B1T 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This is gonna be a fun discussion

  • @k2exe727
    @k2exe727 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm currently playing on mobile and it also has a bit of a hacker problem. And what sucks about it is that you can't report them at all!

  • @danielflorinduta4713
    @danielflorinduta4713 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    You should make otzdarvas thing where you hide the survivors in the lobby to the stream maybe its gonna help with them not being entirely sure if theyre in the right lobby. A stream delay could help too so they dont know when to join

  • @Shuffles_Art
    @Shuffles_Art ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly your solution for dealing with cheaters is actually honourable. Not giving them what they want and keeping them either held there for ages doing nothing, or shamefully quitting and being utterly embarrassed in front of everybody. Honestly the idea of you getting held in 3 different games and just playing on DbD mobile sounds hilarious, but hopefully this is a sign to the hackers that this will have no effect on you and it’s all just a waste of time.

  • @just_ben1789
    @just_ben1789 ปีที่แล้ว

    If your pc can handle it, can always get a lightweight virtual machine and open another instance of dbd in there, lets you play 2 games of dbd on pc simultaneously. Just another option if you're hostage on both console and pc

  • @TheShakenCondor
    @TheShakenCondor 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I read second pc account as “second account, pc” not two separate pc accounts.
    I hate these hackers. I’ve only come across a handful of them but can you imagine spending your whole day away just waiting to get into someone’s match to ruin it and thinking that’s going to spoil their day or something, it’s sad

  • @mellowsans2944
    @mellowsans2944 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spooks out here coming prepared for every occasion like an absolute madlad

  • @RagingRyuga
    @RagingRyuga 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to deal with an absurd amount. I can't play killer anymore, ever.

  • @aburobben22
    @aburobben22 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The thing that happened to Tur3 was really sad, Devs must take serious actions against those empty life cheaters or they will lose everything

  • @abrogaming5976
    @abrogaming5976 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Man, I encountered my first cheater a couple days ago, and he was using slight speed hacks I think, and I still got him to death hook if I remember right. Once it was 2 left, he started flying around and running past lithe speed while crouching, and finished the last 2 gens and gates. The fact I had 10 hooks vs a hacker made me satisfied. Sucks that streamers have to go against these hackers who refuse to try to win the game, and have so much free time to genuinely waste hours holding people hostage

  • @JonteNitak
    @JonteNitak ปีที่แล้ว

    SpooknJukes vs Hackers - The legend continues

  • @DaveMaguire
    @DaveMaguire 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yesterday I was playing dbd with a buddy and we ran into the same hacker twice on Playstation

  • @bnellyneeley8468
    @bnellyneeley8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Will you please tell me where you got the totem from I need it so bad

    • @spooknjukes9886
      @spooknjukes9886  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      One of my Twitch mods, UnicornImperium, makes them! It was a trophy for a charity tournament she hosted :)

    • @bnellyneeley8468
      @bnellyneeley8468 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@spooknjukes9886 does she still make them? If so can you link me up pleaseee.

  • @sonderbain
    @sonderbain ปีที่แล้ว

    Went against a survivor group yesterday who instantly completed all gens and open doors soon as the game loaded in....

  • @bleezy2160
    @bleezy2160 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hey Spooks, have you thought about spinning up a couple VMs and just toggling between them to remain on PC DBD?

  • @JG_Darhk
    @JG_Darhk 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Couldn't you also turn crossplay off snd avoid hackers on console? Or can they bypass that?

  • @GhostGrovePlay
    @GhostGrovePlay 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    i love how he just tells them on some parts that they are doing it wrong. " i dont even have a second pc account" like bro imagine wanting to target people and still doing it wrong.

  • @Ranluinar
    @Ranluinar 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Make sure to get it for Epic Games, Steam, and Microsoft Store and every other platform you can too. You get enough of them and you'll be able to do a 30 minute routine (Servers Tend to timeout a match @ around 30 minutes.. I've been told)

  • @bettycrocker5083
    @bettycrocker5083 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    and then the bigger backups if they hold you hostage on those: dead by roblox and identity v which are essentially the same thing as dbd

  • @freyasmixtape
    @freyasmixtape 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What a sad life they must live. I lowkey feel sorry for them... like.. imagine being so miserable that you have to try (and fail) to make others just as miserable as you. That is some tragic shit.

  • @steviemaster
    @steviemaster 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    "Hold him hold him!" lmao how about you hold your mother for a moment, maybe she'll feel like she loves you for a minute
    that's my two cents to hackers

  • @blaqwabbit
    @blaqwabbit 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What screen sharing software do u use? I was thinking I'd like to stream my terrible game play but I dnt have console or ps or switch yet. I have a pc but it's really old and doesn't have right visual card or something. So all my stuff is on mobile.

  • @varietygamer7859
    @varietygamer7859 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I really don’t understand how messed up in the head these hackers are

  • @antnation747
    @antnation747 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I wonder if we might see some counter hacking. Killers start hacking and either holding those guys hostage or forcing them out of the game somehow. Then bhvr would have a seeerious problem.

  • @brennanoconnor433
    @brennanoconnor433 ปีที่แล้ว

    At a certain point where there’s hackers on all platforms you’ll just switch to a mobile game mock of called “not living tomorrow morning” or something stupid like that

  • @christopherrowse3873
    @christopherrowse3873 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    In my eyes, having the little "cheater cams" off to the side is the same energy as having a live feed of a baby panda at the zoo. You're a zoo keeper xD. Like, "Look at this poor little thing. We rescued it from being a petty piece of shit."

  • @jakiyranmcarthur2499
    @jakiyranmcarthur2499 ปีที่แล้ว

    this radiates "6 CONSOLS! 10 COMPUTERS! BUNCH OF FUCKIN WIRES!" type energy.

  • @kanyumski
    @kanyumski 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Spooks has a full card set of uno reverses ready

  • @dalebotgaming
    @dalebotgaming 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    does anyone know if you mod myers to be shirtless what the chances are to be banned if you would get banned

  • @royalche3se
    @royalche3se ปีที่แล้ว

    I know this has NOTHING to do with the vid but…….where’d you get that Totem Statue in the background

  • @l3theeagle189
    @l3theeagle189 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Yeah also with the disconnecting thing behavior apparently said that fog whisperers only would not suffer I have not encountered cheaters yet and I hope I don’t because I hate the idea of being stuck in a game due to someone having no skill and barely anything close to a life to the point that they are willing to waste time and money only to cheat on a game

  • @Icarnix
    @Icarnix 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    As a Switch DBD player, ordinarily just turning off cross-play would immediately derail any shot hackers would have of targeting but DBD on the Switch is not as strong as PC, PlayStation or Xbox especially with lack of cross-progression. Of the 4 years playing DBD: I've only had one encounter with a cheater and that was this year so make do with that how you will. Hopefully BHVR can actually pull their weight and try to sort this mess out because it is just pitiful that some people have nothing better to do in their lives than to make others miserable and ruin the game even more.

  • @Caribou1997
    @Caribou1997 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can you still get a hacker on playstation with crossplay turned off?

  • @january6145
    @january6145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    worst part is that now bhvr has given fog whisperers no dc penalty leaving other dbd content creators to drown

  • @supaslomo7988
    @supaslomo7988 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    But what if you get a hacker on your pc whilst there is a hacker on your ps?

  • @bobthejester3105
    @bobthejester3105 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It’s the ultimate I’m not trapped in here with you. Your trapped in here with me!

  • @rembacke
    @rembacke ปีที่แล้ว

    The fun part is, that bhrv uses anticheat on pc. An implementation of anticheat, that does not run on linux. So you have anticheat which prevents people from playing on the Steam Deck
    and it's not working anyway.

  • @xanderwinn7018
    @xanderwinn7018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I watched an Otzdarva stream live on Twitch and there was a hacker who completed all the gens and was prepared to leave.