He actually said "We don't cover hard drives everytime, because let's face it, they're really really boring." So in no way did he say that they don't make hard drive videos, they just said they don't cover them every year at CES.
to be put most simply it's Nvidia Shader Pipline optimizations for Single Precision applications using the CUDA API. It's a Nvidia naming thing for their brand of shader pipeline. It's not actually a core or a processor as CUDA is a API that runs instruction sets through the cuda "core" essentially it is a program that gives the GPU shader pipeline optimized instructions for better parellel computing tasks. IMO it is basically next level software trickery as the definition of a "CUDA CORE" isn't set in stone it changes over time generation to generation to be what Nvidia decides it is. And it isn't a core or processor as it is too simple, shader or pixel engines are designed to fed instructions and can't figure out anything on their own like a CPU which has it's own set of instructions, Cache, I/O, ability to Encode and Decode. The cud core is mainly just the pipeline aspect of the chip which is something that is always changing in CPU and GPU design, even now We have Cuda(single precision) Tensor(Mixed Precision) and RTX(???I actually barely understand what these are supposed to do but I assume it's some level of half-precision for specific instructions related to collision detection and minimizing the number of instructions to render semi-accurate ray reflection points. ) so Nvidia design of late is to have multiple different optimizations of pipelines in the same chip.
They're floating-point/integer execution units which can execute up to two multiplication/addition instructions per clock cycle. While CPU cores are effectively independent processors existing on the same chip, CUDA cores lack features that would allow them to work independently. CUDA cores are grouped together in streaming multiprocessors, which schedule instructions on CUDA cores (as well as other, more-specialized execution units) in batches of 32, which NVIDIA calls "warps." The number of CUDA cores per streaming multiprocessor varies from generation to generation, but Turing has 64 CUDA cores per SM. Streaming multiprocessors are further grouped into texture processing clusters (TPCs), which are then grouped along with a raster engine into a graphics processing cluster (GPC). It is the GPC that is able to act as an independent GPU, in the way that CPU cores are each able to act as independent CPUs. The Turing TU102 GPU (Quadro RTX 6000) has six independent GPCs on its GPU die.
I know that the very point of Techquickie is to give brief overviews of tech stuff, and this video did a great job of that. But. It'd be cool if you guys posted a much more in-depth explanation of the different drives. Maybe even recommendations/reviews of different, similar hard drives between different manufacturers (eg SeaGate vs WD vs Toshiba etc). ...if y'all are into that kinda thing.
I've not had problem with Seagate, but wd....not the blue ones he showed in the video. For literraly a few bucks more get more than twice the warranty on a wd black
Hey, there are still some people around running 10000RPM Velociraptor systems. Lenovo even put them in Raid 1 for freaking pre-builds for whatever reason.
You guys so often make just the EXACT video I am looking for even if I don't know exactly what I want. Seriously man, you and your team are exceptional. Thank you thank you thank you.
@@jjadeen its the same as HDD but has some gigabyte stored in SSD. So most frequent applications can be opened faster. It's making used when space is premium like laptop.
Shingled drives can be hard to avoid; they don't always label them or break out the "feature" in the specs. Suspiciously high ram buffers used to be a clue as they are required for the read-modify-write shingle scheme
Spinning disks are actually really good at 24/7 workloads. Similar to falling from a skyscraper, it's not the spinning that wears it down, but on/off cycles. That's why most hard drive failures in datacenters (and home PCs) occur during hardware changes or reboots.
Laptop drives really get put through their paces by people who don't know about head-crashes. They may be designed to be more resilient than desktop drives, but it's still prudent to not throw a laptop around like a lot of people do.
That is why it is very uncommon a laptop having a 7200RPM hard drive, because these can be more sensitive to shock and waste more battery than a 5400RPM
"Head float" is NOT "adjustable" by the drive circuitry, nor by some magic real time alteration. That float height doesn't change. The option the drive has is to park the heads off platter or at the platter hub or edge, away from the data storage zone.
Fascinating! Didn't know what made enterprise grade drives different. Fun fact: the TV industry uses LTO tapes to archive footage because believe it or not, data stored on TAPE lasts longer than hard drives! This is of course for VERY long term storage like many decades!
@@happygimp0actually that is not even true Tape was killed off over 20+ years ago and Hard Drives and Solid State Drives are what we all use these days
just pointing out, seek time is not dependent on RPM. seek time is moving the head to the correct track on the disk, while latency is the time it takes to spin the disk so the head is at the start of the required data.
Because the disk RPM affects how long it takes for the head to get to the start of the required data, seek time IS dependent on RPM. a 7200 RPM drive will always have a lower average seek time than a 5400 RPM drive (all else being equal).
Actually, modern tape storage is pretty good for archiving. They have the slowest read and write speeds out of most storage types but you can also fit the most data in them.
Not sure if you ever made one about this: The way http servers delivers content to the uses. I talking about the synergy, between different kind of server technologies and addons, like http servers (apache, php, iis, litespeed, etc), databases (oracle, xxsql, etc), mvc, and the likes, and how a website/different types of websites utilize these. I realize this could turn out pretty nerdy and narrow, so understand if wished to be avoid. I love the channel :)
I went for WD Red 4Tb and i can say it's very quiet compared to other HDDs.It doesn't vibrate at all (i put 6 silicone drops under mine) And 160 mb/s is more than enough for simple storage.Totally worth the price
In my home made NAS and media PC (i3 6100) i use one SSD as a boot drive, one WD RED 3TB drive, and two Seagate Archive 8TB drives. I don't have RAID setup, instead, i have daily RSYNC backups from one drive to another. The really important data gets backed up via rsync to a storage VPS every night at 03:30AM. This setup has been running for more than 2 years now. So far no problems. The seagate archive drives are fast enough to saturate my home 1Gbps network. So, all the data is available instantly from my home network or via owncloud.
Another difference between NAS and Enterprise drive versus desktop drives is that in a read error the Enterprise drives give up trying to read the sector faster than the desktop drive will. The is because the manufacturer shines the Enterprise drive are probably in RAID, and have external error correcting, whereas a desktop typically will not.
I've got 5 mechanical drives in my machine. 1x 8TB Seagate Archive for media(written to once and read occasionally), 1x 3TB WD Blue backup drive(rarely read from.. Could probly be better than blue), 3x 4TB WD Purples for Steam, 'Apps' and Shadowplay (All of which get written and read from very often). But my PC also gets treated like a server i suppose.. 100% uptime. I've occasionally seen a full year in the uptime stat. But of course with windows 10 those days are over since it wants to reboot for updates. If anybody reads to the end of this. Well done.. But no.. You can't have your time back..
My home server's backplane is SAS 12gb/s but I use a mixture of HGST NAS and WD Red drives, along with a few enterprise drives. I wish the LTT team would let us know if they have the HDDs in their servers spinning constantly or a start/stop setup.
What's the difference between regular old system hard drives and hard drives in expansion storage that tend to be cheaper (even if the capacity and manufacturer are the same)?
For the most part, surveillance HDDs like those marketed for storing CCTV footages have higher rated write cycle before the drive would exhibit noticeable failure not to mention tested and rated for higher heat tolerance due to it being always-on nature for continuously taking in new footages. Manufacturers design hard drives for specific duty cycles. Server computers are always driving data. Enterprise hard drives accommodate 24/7 uptime with features not found in consumer drives. These include stuffs like some elaborate passive cooling mechanisms inside the disk chassis, sensors that detect and correct vibration and controls for airflow inside the chassis.
if you get a larger hard drive and partition it - if you use the first partition it will be the fastest part of the disc and have lower seek times and you have a sustain high reads and lower seek times and you can use the "slower" part for data that is not needed to be have high read speeds
Now, that I know this about NAS and Surveillance drives. I will definitely be more willing to pay for the premium over regular 7200 RPM drives. Most appreciated information. Thank you.
Ive only used WD caviar drives, usually caviar black the last 20+ years, they are run hard in Mac towers that run 24/7 since I never shut them off unless a bad storm is due. Ive never had one fail in any way. I typically run them hard for about 2-3 years and then replace with a new one and keep the old one as a backup archive.
Been using Asus G30AB with Toshiba 3TB 7200rpm + 128 SSD in raid ready; not raid setup. The speed is amazing. It's been more than six years, and still rockin' this pudget sys.
If it's only due to vibration problems that causes the drive to fail, a simple fix would be to add some rubber to prevent this kind of things to happen.
This is some interesting facts about the enterprise disks i didn't know, most of them at least, i am still getting them though because i was the most reliable stuff.
@@CarsonCote 7200 is 22% faster than 5900 RPM. but as much as it's a big factor, the price for 1800 extra RPM's isnt worth it... unless you find them on sale
For I think most people, it does only come down to performance, capacity, and price. Which is unfortunate because manufacturer ethics should be just as important, if not more.
Not really as the xbox and play station hardware don't have drivers for windows as they use propriety hardware. Technically you could if you could make the drivers but it would be unrealistic to do.
Hi. Is Toshiba green 4TB s300 use for normal pc works? For videos, songs, movies, windows and other documents? Not camera recording for just normal pc use.
I swear by Western Digital Green, I like the built in software that allows drive to go to sleep when not being accessed and not constantly spinning and generating heat thereby prolonging the life of the drive and reducing the heat buildup in computer case. Pay a little more but in my mind get a lot more.
No mention of how different cache sizes affect HDD performance? I'm disappointed, Linus. Otherwise, this was a great video and taught me a thing or two about the different models of HDD. Thanks!
I ordered a WD 4TB CMR drive but got an SMR drive. Returning it is a bit of a hassle in my situation and I mainly store videos and photos. Should i just suck it up?
My first hard disk was 30 MB and 3600 RPM. Current hard disks are 100 000 times bigger and almost 1000 times faster but the rotation speed has only doubled. There is one thing where modern computers are slower. If you need to read the whole contents of a drive it takes longer as the size has increased more rapidly than the speed.
My storage solution? 500GB NVMe SSD as Windows Boot and priority App library. 1TB SATA SSD as Windows Game/App library. 2x 3TB NAS-grade HGST HDD as RAID 1 array for data. 500GB performance-grade HGST HDD as Linux boot. 1TB consumer-grade HDD as Linux data.
I have a habit of cooling down my external hard disks using a cold wet towel. It really works well. Temperature can drop from 52'c to 42'c in just 3 minutes. Is this method safe for the hard disk?
Please enlighten us the actual reasons external hard drives are cheaper than internal hard drives. We've all heard of many claims and theories surrounding this.
The theory I've heard (which sounds reasonable enough to me) is simply that the external drives are more likely to fail sooner. When Seagate or whoever produces a production run of hard drives they test them to identify potential weaknesses and likely points of failure (a bit like binning CPUs) so that they can separate the high quality from the low quality. The ones which are deemed likely to fail sooner are put in cases and sold as external drives because an external drive is likely to see less active use and fewer hours spinning (you connect your external drive when you need it and can disconnect it when you are done compared to an internal drive which will spin up every time the computer switches on and at various stages throughout the use of the computer). This helps ensure that the drive survives the warranty period before failing. If these inferior drives were used internally then they would be much more likely to fail within the warranty period and cost the company for a replacement. I don't have hard facts to back up that this is gospel truth so I'm open to being corrected if anyone knows better, but it seems to make logical sense to me.
Bass treble Why external hard drives are cheap? Simple! Unlike the internal version. Most external hard drives have smaller capacity. Second, external hard drives have simple connection while the internal hard drive has two. Third, with the introductory of SSHD. This technology allows you to read and write data like owning an expensive SSDs. And is currently available on internal drive models. Which is why it is more expensive than the external hard drives which don't have that read or write speeds. Fourth, unless anyone has type c or usb 3.0 ports. Reading and write speeds of external drives tend to be slower. Even transferring files takes too long to transfer. Why do you think that external hard drive gaming is uncommon?
@@thatsatoilet5113 I assume Bass treble is talking about on a like-for-like basis when comparing capacities. You quite often find external drives to be cheaper than internal drives of the same capacity and brand. This is despite the extra cost of producing and supplying the external case and cable(s). And when you shuck an external drive (remove the case to expose the bare drive) you find that it is often pretty much identical to internal drives - they have the same connections and can even be used internally to give you the same transfer speeds you would get from a drive sold from the start as internal. I actually have a 3tb Seagate drive connected internally in my gaming PC which started its life as an external drive. So, given that the connections are the same, the capacity is the same, they are capable of the same read/write speeds etc, a lot of people are mystified about why they are often cheaper.
Derek Galbraith Like I said before. External hard drives tend to have slower read or write speeds. If you look at the external hard drives. Portable ones use 1 connector for both power and data. Now tell me, From your 3 tb hard drive. How fast is the read and write speeds from external mode vs internal mode?
@@thatsatoilet5113 I can assure you that my ex-external drive which is now being used internally does not have one connector for both power and data. It has the exact same connectors as a standard internal SATA drive now that I've shucked it. The case which houses external drives may have one connection point which delivers both power and data but that's just the case. Open up that case and you'll almost definitely find a regular ol' internal drive inside with a little PCB hooked up to it. It is that PCB which converts the drive from two connection points for separate power and data to one connection point. I don't remember the read/write times off the top of my head (I'm at work just now, not at home). I just remember testing it when I first put it in the system and finding that identically (within margin of error) to the other drive in the system (same brand, RPM etc).
Linus at CES: "We don't make videos about hard drives cause they're all the same."
Also Linus: *uploads this video*
Arend Galenkamp, I was thinking the same thing 😂
He meant that they didn't usually make videos about drives at CES because new models don't normally have interesting developments
He actually said "We don't cover hard drives everytime, because let's face it, they're really really boring." So in no way did he say that they don't make hard drive videos, they just said they don't cover them every year at CES.
Exactly
Exactly
Of course not all hard drives are the same, but all of them have been dropped by Linus.
How the hell did he get his hands on mine?!
Linus got the whole tech industry, in his hands!
@@factsandstuff2832 I'm going to have nightmares now
@@benitollan excellent.
Linus's reaction: th-cam.com/video/aGq8uJSco1o/w-d-xo.html
Not sure if you guys have covered this already, but you should do a Techquickie explaining exactly what Cuda cores are.
@@potato_x69 cuda you explain that better
to be put most simply it's Nvidia Shader Pipline optimizations for Single Precision applications using the CUDA API.
It's a Nvidia naming thing for their brand of shader pipeline. It's not actually a core or a processor as CUDA is a API that runs instruction sets through the cuda "core" essentially it is a program that gives the GPU shader pipeline optimized instructions for better parellel computing tasks. IMO it is basically next level software trickery as the definition of a "CUDA CORE" isn't set in stone it changes over time generation to generation to be what Nvidia decides it is. And it isn't a core or processor as it is too simple, shader or pixel engines are designed to fed instructions and can't figure out anything on their own like a CPU which has it's own set of instructions, Cache, I/O, ability to Encode and Decode. The cud core is mainly just the pipeline aspect of the chip which is something that is always changing in CPU and GPU design, even now We have Cuda(single precision) Tensor(Mixed Precision) and RTX(???I actually barely understand what these are supposed to do but I assume it's some level of half-precision for specific instructions related to collision detection and minimizing the number of instructions to render semi-accurate ray reflection points. ) so Nvidia design of late is to have multiple different optimizations of pipelines in the same chip.
They're floating-point/integer execution units which can execute up to two multiplication/addition instructions per clock cycle. While CPU cores are effectively independent processors existing on the same chip, CUDA cores lack features that would allow them to work independently. CUDA cores are grouped together in streaming multiprocessors, which schedule instructions on CUDA cores (as well as other, more-specialized execution units) in batches of 32, which NVIDIA calls "warps." The number of CUDA cores per streaming multiprocessor varies from generation to generation, but Turing has 64 CUDA cores per SM.
Streaming multiprocessors are further grouped into texture processing clusters (TPCs), which are then grouped along with a raster engine into a graphics processing cluster (GPC). It is the GPC that is able to act as an independent GPU, in the way that CPU cores are each able to act as independent CPUs. The Turing TU102 GPU (Quadro RTX 6000) has six independent GPCs on its GPU die.
@@infernaldaedra no one understood my pun
@@jonawhite17 Thanks for the added clarification on how it functions. 👍
This guy does sound like linus from Linus tech tip
Eight Trailer I hope you’re kidding
@@phaoast4524 r/woooosh
I know! It’s almost like.. it can’t be The real Linus
Jammy OH my god your so right
@UPS WINDOWS r/woooosh
I know that the very point of Techquickie is to give brief overviews of tech stuff, and this video did a great job of that.
But. It'd be cool if you guys posted a much more in-depth explanation of the different drives. Maybe even recommendations/reviews of different, similar hard drives between different manufacturers (eg SeaGate vs WD vs Toshiba etc). ...if y'all are into that kinda thing.
He should put one of his people in charge of that as a spin off channel.
Anything but Seagate and you'll be fine.
@@infernaldaedra what's wrong with Seagate?
I've not had problem with Seagate, but wd....not the blue ones he showed in the video. For literraly a few bucks more get more than twice the warranty on a wd black
@@infernaldaedra o thought Seagate was a highly recommended brand?
Hey, there are still some people around running 10000RPM Velociraptor systems. Lenovo even put them in Raid 1 for freaking pre-builds for whatever reason.
Does the pre built rattle and fly away?
I still have mine with xp on it.
@@randomsomeguy156 no, it bites your face off
@@randomsomeguy156 pretty much, every time Windows updates it sounds like the drive is gonna break
I still use my Velociraptors as secondary drives , they work great imo.
You guys so often make just the EXACT video I am looking for even if I don't know exactly what I want. Seriously man, you and your team are exceptional. Thank you thank you thank you.
Who needs hard drives anyway I have my trusty magnetic drums
Noob. I hire scribes to hand write my data.
I use mercury delay lines bitch
Core memory is where it's all at...
I Write with my notes and Read with my eyes
Foolish mortal, I store all my data on patterns in Minecraft locking repeater arrays.
SSHD _wants to know your location_
Ssd?
@@jjadeen No, a SSHD. Or, Solid-State Hybrid Drive.
@@moemoekyun ohhh
@@jjadeen its the same as HDD but has some gigabyte stored in SSD. So most frequent applications can be opened faster. It's making used when space is premium like laptop.
@@420sakura1
SSD is used as a cache for the HDD, handled by underlying firmware.
Shingled drives can be hard to avoid; they don't always label them or break out the "feature" in the specs. Suspiciously high ram buffers used to be a clue as they are required for the read-modify-write shingle scheme
Spinning disks are actually really good at 24/7 workloads. Similar to falling from a skyscraper, it's not the spinning that wears it down, but on/off cycles. That's why most hard drive failures in datacenters (and home PCs) occur during hardware changes or reboots.
That last joke makes me think this one was meant to come out before Christmas... 😄
Seeing this pop up just after their CES video about HAMMER... wel timed team Linus, wel timed.
Wth why didn’t you talk about hard drive cache!? That’s the thing I want to now about!!
Laptop drives really get put through their paces by people who don't know about head-crashes. They may be designed to be more resilient than desktop drives, but it's still prudent to not throw a laptop around like a lot of people do.
That is why it is very uncommon a laptop having a 7200RPM hard drive, because these can be more sensitive to shock and waste more battery than a 5400RPM
Ssd all the way for laptops
Laptop drives always fail on me. Then again they were cheap low end models to begin with.
I always swapout for SSDs in laptops.
"Head float" is NOT "adjustable" by the drive circuitry, nor by some magic real time alteration. That float height doesn't change. The option the drive has is to park the heads off platter or at the platter hub or edge, away from the data storage zone.
Fascinating! Didn't know what made enterprise grade drives different.
Fun fact: the TV industry uses LTO tapes to archive footage because believe it or not, data stored on TAPE lasts longer than hard drives! This is of course for VERY long term storage like many decades!
We still use tape today.
@@happygimp0actually that is not even true
Tape was killed off over 20+ years ago and Hard Drives and Solid State Drives are what we all use these days
Of course they're different, there are hard drives you can trust a even a bit and IBM Deskstars.
As a surveillance consultant, you are right on the money! Another great vid my friend!
This was a very good show. This is the first time that I learn that there are various kinds of hard disk and hard drives. Thank you, Techquickie.
Just get a magnetic tape machine like you guys did, who needs all this fast storage
just pointing out, seek time is not dependent on RPM. seek time is moving the head to the correct track on the disk, while latency is the time it takes to spin the disk so the head is at the start of the required data.
Because the disk RPM affects how long it takes for the head to get to the start of the required data, seek time IS dependent on RPM. a 7200 RPM drive will always have a lower average seek time than a 5400 RPM drive (all else being equal).
@@takeshi7 yes, but that's not what seek time is, that's latency or rotational delay. Seek time is moving the head to the correct track on the disk.
Floppy disks are still the best storage!!!
Bro, what the fuck.
Everyone knows it's getting a bunch of a bunch of magnetic tape.
Actually, modern tape storage is pretty good for archiving. They have the slowest read and write speeds out of most storage types but you can also fit the most data in them.
True'nt
What're you doing here Dad ?
Tape storage have longest life storage. while other storage get old it still going to be around. Some of my old hard drive is losing space and gone.
_We all will be using SSDs eventually._
I don't need to open my porn quicker compared to my 6tb hdd though...
@@MeepMeep88 Wait what? Porn is low priority?
When I find a 1TB SSD and can use it for a 1 hard drive setup, I'll make the switch. Other than that it's a pain. Of course, I'm not a gamer.
@@cm01 You mean when you find an affordable one? There are many 1TB and 2TB SSDs.
@@ZeorGaming yes, affordable. Contrasting starkly with cheap. I don't trust a 1 TB SSD for sale for $60, at least not yet
Yes they are all the same in my heart!
One of your Best Videos my friend thank you...
Not sure if you ever made one about this: The way http servers delivers content to the uses. I talking about the synergy, between different kind of server technologies and addons, like http servers (apache, php, iis, litespeed, etc), databases (oracle, xxsql, etc), mvc, and the likes, and how a website/different types of websites utilize these. I realize this could turn out pretty nerdy and narrow, so understand if wished to be avoid. I love the channel :)
I still can't believe that most of our life depends on how an iron tip spins on a magnetic disk.
I went for WD Red 4Tb and i can say it's very quiet compared to other HDDs.It doesn't vibrate at all (i put 6 silicone drops under mine)
And 160 mb/s is more than enough for simple storage.Totally worth the price
My hard drive isn’t hard anymore so I put it on viagra
Dude, can I have some of that for my word processing software? I wanna turn it into hardware.
Say no more fam, I gotcha
Lol
Going cloud not more worry about physical.
floppy dicks can't provide enough storage though.
2:34 editing on point!
At 2:44, is that the same for all HDD's because mine was somehow ruptured I guess on my desktop iMac, and now I cannot boot it up from Disk Utility.
Just when I was thinking about if putting a NAS drive in a PC is a good idea this video came out. Cool.
Techquickie
What about Cache ?
i've got 500gb HDDs with 2 different Cache sizes and now the new Seagate HDD are doubling their Cache.
If I'm not mistaken cache is how much data can be read at once.
In my home made NAS and media PC (i3 6100) i use one SSD as a boot drive, one WD RED 3TB drive, and two Seagate Archive 8TB drives. I don't have RAID setup, instead, i have daily RSYNC backups from one drive to another. The really important data gets backed up via rsync to a storage VPS every night at 03:30AM. This setup has been running for more than 2 years now. So far no problems. The seagate archive drives are fast enough to saturate my home 1Gbps network. So, all the data is available instantly from my home network or via owncloud.
Could you give detailed to do instructions? Thanks
this is the best technology channel ive seen!!! i love the internet. its all for free
Not really, nothing is free. They are just selling your personal information and you don't care or know about it.
Another difference between NAS and Enterprise drive versus desktop drives is that in a read error the Enterprise drives give up trying to read the sector faster than the desktop drive will. The is because the manufacturer shines the Enterprise drive are probably in RAID, and have external error correcting, whereas a desktop typically will not.
I've got 5 mechanical drives in my machine. 1x 8TB Seagate Archive for media(written to once and read occasionally), 1x 3TB WD Blue backup drive(rarely read from.. Could probly be better than blue), 3x 4TB WD Purples for Steam, 'Apps' and Shadowplay (All of which get written and read from very often). But my PC also gets treated like a server i suppose.. 100% uptime. I've occasionally seen a full year in the uptime stat. But of course with windows 10 those days are over since it wants to reboot for updates. If anybody reads to the end of this. Well done.. But no.. You can't have your time back..
15tb is overkill
@@randomgeekstuff2560 Tell that to how many are almost full. XD
Braskus how- wha-
what are you doing?!?
@@randomgeekstuff2560 I dunno.. Downloading stuff? And not deleting old stuff?
Good old Linus when he was still a good boy !!!
How about 4k vs 512e? Keep hearing those up
linus went hard on the content the last 2 weeks
My home server's backplane is SAS 12gb/s but I use a mixture of HGST NAS and WD Red drives, along with a few enterprise drives. I wish the LTT team would let us know if they have the HDDs in their servers spinning constantly or a start/stop setup.
It seemed like he glanced over the drives that everyone was interested in, like what about cache storage, and what RPM would you suggest for gaming
What's the difference between regular old system hard drives and hard drives in expansion storage that tend to be cheaper (even if the capacity and manufacturer are the same)?
How does an enterprise HDD compared to a surveillance HDD?
For the most part, surveillance HDDs like those marketed for storing CCTV footages have higher rated write cycle before the drive would exhibit noticeable failure not to mention tested and rated for higher heat tolerance due to it being always-on nature for continuously taking in new footages.
Manufacturers design hard drives for specific duty cycles. Server computers are always driving data. Enterprise hard drives accommodate 24/7 uptime with features not found in consumer drives. These include stuffs like some elaborate passive cooling mechanisms inside the disk chassis, sensors that detect and correct vibration and controls for airflow inside the chassis.
higher arial descity increases harddrive read and write speed
if you get a larger hard drive and partition it - if you use the first partition it will be the fastest part of the disc and have lower seek times and you have a sustain high reads and lower seek times
and you can use the "slower" part for data that is not needed to be have high read speeds
Thanks for the information. Stay sharp LMG.
Now, that I know this about NAS and Surveillance drives. I will definitely be more willing to pay for the premium over regular 7200 RPM drives. Most appreciated information. Thank you.
Ive only used WD caviar drives, usually caviar black the last 20+ years, they are run hard in Mac towers that run 24/7 since I never shut them off unless a bad storm is due. Ive never had one fail in any way. I typically run them hard for about 2-3 years and then replace with a new one and keep the old one as a backup archive.
My video lagged right away when he said "on how fast they spin"😂😂😂 0:35
Been using Asus G30AB with Toshiba 3TB 7200rpm + 128 SSD in raid ready; not raid setup. The speed is amazing. It's been more than six years, and still rockin' this pudget sys.
I am running a wd black 1tb and a wd raptor 300gb both way over 10 years run time. They still work as my torrent and backup drives in my gaming pc.
right on the mark! I am researching hdd's just for my steam library how'd you guys know holy.
Happy orthodox New Year!
ALWAYS LOVE YOUR TECH TIPS U THE MAN
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Hgst is my favorite brand due to reliability.
Thank you! I feel more comfortable with adding a black drive to my Nas vs another pricer Nas specific drive
If it's only due to vibration problems that causes the drive to fail, a simple fix would be to add some rubber to prevent this kind of things to happen.
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This is some interesting facts about the enterprise disks i didn't know, most of them at least, i am still getting them though because i was the most reliable stuff.
Definitely an interesting video! Keep the good videos up :)
"5400 RPM vs 7200 RPM?"
*I DONT CARE IF A HDD CAN SPIN 1800 MORE TIMES IN A MINUTE THAN MINE*
p.s I didnt watch the video yet
Well, for me, the 5400 RPM HDD's are way slower.
7200 has a 33% speed difference
@@justdashie1132 What about a 5900 RPM drive and I can do the math but I trust Clorox more than myself
@@CarsonCote 7200 is 22% faster than 5900 RPM.
but as much as it's a big factor, the price for 1800 extra RPM's isnt worth it... unless you find them on sale
@@claudiu9468 I know, I'm talking price difference between 5400 and 7200
I use my HDD as football sometimes
For I think most people, it does only come down to performance, capacity, and price.
Which is unfortunate because manufacturer ethics should be just as important, if not more.
Clicked the PIA link, don't see the deal depicted at 5:33. :(
guess that was a year ago though...
3:41 okay, so what the frick is that finger nail?
How does Linus fit in recording so many videos in 24 hours?
And what kind of hard disk should be used for home / private backups?
What should I get if I need it to run 24/7 in open air for a single drive server?
How does the DRAM cache work on a solid state hybrid? Does it switch between the flash memory and the spindle based on I/O rate?
Surveillance drives are also used in PVR’S. They normally are 5900 RPM 3.5 inch drives.
I little curious as to what Linus’s go to hdd is
console operating systems as fast as possible. how they work and would it be possible to put windows on an xbox or ps4.
Not really as the xbox and play station hardware don't have drivers for windows as they use propriety hardware. Technically you could if you could make the drivers but it would be unrealistic to do.
Wow that was a great video
THE DBRAND GRIP AND PRISM PHONE PROTECTOR
The rotational speed has nothing to do with the seek time - that's a function of head movement.
Hi. Is Toshiba green 4TB s300 use for normal pc works? For videos, songs, movies, windows and other documents? Not camera recording for just normal pc use.
I swear by Western Digital Green, I like the built in software that allows drive to go to sleep when not being accessed and not constantly spinning and generating heat
thereby prolonging the life of the drive and reducing the heat buildup in computer case. Pay a little more but in my mind get a lot more.
I still remember that one Linus Velociraptor Video
Linus, I have a technical question that I couldn't find an answear even by searching in official papers: how would ternary/trinary storage be like?
So which mech drive can STEAM faster than any other? Both in transfer speed as well as read?
No mention of how different cache sizes affect HDD performance? I'm disappointed, Linus.
Otherwise, this was a great video and taught me a thing or two about the different models of HDD. Thanks!
Great Video!!!
I would have loved a rec for a good hard drive for my steam library. A need a second one on my PC.
What about external HDD with USB cable? Which one to buy for storage and long term storage
The video did not really give the different types, which one? some people are wondering about SATA NAS and other so how about those?
Thank you for teaching me Linus ^_^
"SPEAKING OF *literally anything* NORDVPN IS GREAT!"
Good video thanks
I ordered a WD 4TB CMR drive but got an SMR drive. Returning it is a bit of a hassle in my situation and I mainly store videos and photos. Should i just suck it up?
Techquickie episode suggestion. How Wi-Fi Direct works.
Of all the things to drop, should've dropped a mention about helium-filled drives
Installing new hdd in my laptop showing bluescreen can repair my pc once installed windows 10 pro?
My first hard disk was 30 MB and 3600 RPM. Current hard disks are 100 000 times bigger and almost 1000 times faster but the rotation speed has only doubled. There is one thing where modern computers are slower. If you need to read the whole contents of a drive it takes longer as the size has increased more rapidly than the speed.
What is the max rpm a hard disk can rotate?
My storage solution?
500GB NVMe SSD as Windows Boot and priority App library.
1TB SATA SSD as Windows Game/App library.
2x 3TB NAS-grade HGST HDD as RAID 1 array for data.
500GB performance-grade HGST HDD as Linux boot.
1TB consumer-grade HDD as Linux data.
linus advertisement in linus's own channel :D
I have a habit of cooling down my external hard disks using a cold wet towel. It really works well. Temperature can drop from 52'c to 42'c in just 3 minutes.
Is this method safe for the hard disk?
Please enlighten us the actual reasons external hard drives are cheaper than internal hard drives. We've all heard of many claims and theories surrounding this.
The theory I've heard (which sounds reasonable enough to me) is simply that the external drives are more likely to fail sooner. When Seagate or whoever produces a production run of hard drives they test them to identify potential weaknesses and likely points of failure (a bit like binning CPUs) so that they can separate the high quality from the low quality.
The ones which are deemed likely to fail sooner are put in cases and sold as external drives because an external drive is likely to see less active use and fewer hours spinning (you connect your external drive when you need it and can disconnect it when you are done compared to an internal drive which will spin up every time the computer switches on and at various stages throughout the use of the computer). This helps ensure that the drive survives the warranty period before failing. If these inferior drives were used internally then they would be much more likely to fail within the warranty period and cost the company for a replacement.
I don't have hard facts to back up that this is gospel truth so I'm open to being corrected if anyone knows better, but it seems to make logical sense to me.
Bass treble Why external hard drives are cheap? Simple! Unlike the internal version. Most external hard drives have smaller capacity. Second, external hard drives have simple connection while the internal hard drive has two. Third, with the introductory of SSHD. This technology allows you to read and write data like owning an expensive SSDs. And is currently available on internal drive models. Which is why it is more expensive than the external hard drives which don't have that read or write speeds. Fourth, unless anyone has type c or usb 3.0 ports. Reading and write speeds of external drives tend to be slower. Even transferring files takes too long to transfer. Why do you think that external hard drive gaming is uncommon?
@@thatsatoilet5113 I assume Bass treble is talking about on a like-for-like basis when comparing capacities. You quite often find external drives to be cheaper than internal drives of the same capacity and brand. This is despite the extra cost of producing and supplying the external case and cable(s).
And when you shuck an external drive (remove the case to expose the bare drive) you find that it is often pretty much identical to internal drives - they have the same connections and can even be used internally to give you the same transfer speeds you would get from a drive sold from the start as internal. I actually have a 3tb Seagate drive connected internally in my gaming PC which started its life as an external drive.
So, given that the connections are the same, the capacity is the same, they are capable of the same read/write speeds etc, a lot of people are mystified about why they are often cheaper.
Derek Galbraith Like I said before. External hard drives tend to have slower read or write speeds. If you look at the external hard drives. Portable ones use 1 connector for both power and data. Now tell me, From your 3 tb hard drive. How fast is the read and write speeds from external mode vs internal mode?
@@thatsatoilet5113 I can assure you that my ex-external drive which is now being used internally does not have one connector for both power and data. It has the exact same connectors as a standard internal SATA drive now that I've shucked it. The case which houses external drives may have one connection point which delivers both power and data but that's just the case. Open up that case and you'll almost definitely find a regular ol' internal drive inside with a little PCB hooked up to it. It is that PCB which converts the drive from two connection points for separate power and data to one connection point.
I don't remember the read/write times off the top of my head (I'm at work just now, not at home). I just remember testing it when I first put it in the system and finding that identically (within margin of error) to the other drive in the system (same brand, RPM etc).