She's so beautiful ❤ smart and calm. He took advantage of her. I was in similar situation, 16 and he was 24...he couldn't have kids. I am sorry for your experience. You deserve to be treated like a queen❤
I’m not victim blaming but sometimes us women need to take accountability for the type of men we let breed us ... not one but two times you allowed him to get you pregnant knowing what he was like and what he did to you and even when he was in a relationship with someone else ☹️ The other woman is also as bad because she knew wagwan with the man and still became the second baby mum wow.
@@toxicreubz4856 yeah facts he is trash but she should of protected herself more too all the signs were there 😞 I just hope the younger generation can learn I’m tired of seeing this baby mum baby dad culture in our community it’s killing us
@@Kayceeeeeeee544 definitely broken homes our ruining our culture, I hope we can overcome it and level the playing fields with others but this is why accountability is needed. blaming others doesn't show us how to prevent it going forward.
She should of gave him back his money and carried on with her life. She didn't deserve to get attacked physically but she needed to cut all contact and concentrated on her children... Real talk...
@@redpillreloaded369 women's preference for things that arent good for them stems back to the Garden of Eden loool, that's an international and universal fact. No one is debating it, but dont you think she and other women are facing the consequence of those decisions? im just saying we don't need to point finger and judge.
@@theforeignspeculator preferences are fine but having babies with unsuitable men causes issues in society as the dysfunctional kids come in society and cause havoc so yes we should judge; as lack of judgment allows these women to not be accountable, women of other races have the sense to use birth control with men who are not father material
with respect this lady cannot play victim; she knew who the good guys were and knew who the bad boys were and she choose bad boys; the nice guys that had a regular job got rejected by her younger self when they approached her
Thank you for your comment, with respect I was 16 and homeless when I met it him, a key word I stated was that I was GROOMED. He was definitely nicer to me in the beginning than the boys my age or the men that had simply taken advantage of me which he knew about hence why his approach nicer towards me.
@@kikishome8293 nobody told u to breed st 16 I don’t feel sorry for u atal get a life I had two kids by 20 you don’t see me crying about bad dad I’m 32 now grow up man
@@missellz7630 watch the episode properly before writing ignorant comments, I didn’t go on there looking for pitty I went on there to bring awareness to domestic abuse. No disrespect but no one breeds by them self which I’m sure you’re aware. I think the immature one here is you, the type of women that are enablers. Wishing you and your 2 kids the best.
@@kikishome8293 It's so crazy because you would not see this type of comments on the baby father podcast ever. Women seriously need to stop this and be more supportive smh
Thank you for your comment, your opinion is appreciated I did think very well about whether I should do the interview or not and I’m prepared to have the hard conversations with my children in the future to address what happened and even attend therapy with them all in order to aid their healing process which I’m aware that they will need. If their father will ever wake up and seek appropriate contact he is more than welcome to join this healing process.
@Bones Akimbo I was the abuser but he’s court ordered not to come within a specific distance of me or my home. At this point you’re either are him or just an ignorant enabler, encouraging a man to stay away from children he helped create. God will judge both you and him accordingly when it’s your time not me. Take care of yourself
@Bones Akimbo you know so much I’m guessing you’ve been accused of abuse, I’m really sorry your situation was the way it was but you cannot go around discounting people’s experiences. There is a threshold of evidence that’s needed to be granted an NMO. You have way too much time on your hands and hatred for black women in your heart please seek healing ❤️🩹
@Bones Akimbo if you actually watch all the videos on this account you’ll realise that there are contact centres, he can go to court and get a court order and I’ve even offered mediation even though I’m not at Liberty to. I’m not obliged to be any part of him seeing his kids but since you’re such a smartie pants you facilitate the contact
I definitely feel she went through a lot but I do agree with some of the comments that she shouldn’t of done this interview ( at least not now ) just because of close the timeline is and how young her kids are. It could come back and haunt her ( especially if she ever gets back with him ).
Thank you for your comment, your opinion is appreciated I did think very well about whether I should do the interview or not and I’m prepared to have the hard conversations with my children in the future to address what happened and even attend therapy with them all in order to aid their healing process which I’m aware that they will need. If their father will ever wake up and seek appropriate contact he is more than welcome to join this healing process.
@@kikishome8293 indeed I enjoy watching the presenter as I seen her in a few other episodes which I enjoyed very much, this episode just seemed to me as though whenever the young lady was going to touch on some key points she was interrupted which personally made me not complete the episode. I will give it another go as I dont want to judge the lady hosting.
Thank your for your comment…Unfortunately back in my day I was searching for love at the wrong age and wrong time of my life I’ll hold my hands up to that.
@Bones Akimbo Thank you for your comment. I don’t want to discredit you Dr Bones but Borderline personality disorder is only 1 of the many conditions that women face after dealing with years of domestic abuse. Please do your research before diagnosing but thank you for your input 😊
So basically you want a man to do 5 years cos he was a manipulater some what a controller and liar but never a physical abuser damn who raised this girl, good luck to the next man, now can we hear the man side!!!
Thank you for your comment, I’ll leave you with some facts that are stated on www.gov.uk & Cps.gov.uk Controlling or coercive behaviour is an insidious form of domestic abuse that can destroy lives. Domestic abuse is not always physical violence. It can also include: -coercive control and ‘gaslighting’ -economic abuse -online abuse -threats and intimidation -emotional abuse -sexual abuse (Most of these I have encountered at multiple points of the relationship) Anyone can be a victim of domestic abuse, regardless of gender, age, ethnicity, religion, socio-economic status, sexuality or background. If you believe that you are a victim of domestic abuse, there are signs that you can look out for including: (hopefully these signs will help someone who was confused as I was) -being withdrawn, or being isolated from your family and friends -having bruises, burns or bite marks on you -having your finances controlled, or not being given enough to buy food, medication or pay bills -not being allowed to leave your house, or stopped from going to college or work -having your internet or social media use monitored, or someone else reading your texts, emails or letters -being repeatedly belittled, put down or told you are worthless -being pressured into sex or sexual contact -being told that abuse is your fault, or that you’re overreacting(it’s a shame that this element of this abuse is being enabled by some of the comments on here, thank God my experience has taught me thick skin) Domestic abuse does not always have to be physical to be prosecuted - sometimes victims may not even be aware it is happening. It can include any behaviour deployed by an offender to obtain control or power over another, and we recognise that emotional abuse can be just as harmful as physical violence. But even when a victim has reported abuse to the police, there are complex reasons they may not see through a prosecution - love, shame, guilt, isolation, fear of the process and language barriers to name just a few. The level of victim attrition is one of the reasons these cases can be difficult to prosecute. That is why we are working so hard at the CPS and across the criminal justice system to improve the experience and provide protection for these victims and their children. Maybe this may be too much information for small minded people to take in but hopefully it can shed some light on how far the voices of survivors have come in the fight for justice.
@Bones Akimbo no one deserves to be treated like that, male or female, I advise you to seek help, there are many organisations I can signpost you to especially if you’re open to do the necessary healing needed to move forward with your life.
@@kikishome8293 16 is maybe too young; but you could of chosen to use birth control to avoid pregnancy; or you could of also chose a man who was not doing road man tings
@@redpillreloaded369 I hear you but at the end of the day the children are here now birth controll or not he’s been in their life and chosen to stay out of their lives I’m the one taking full responsibility
Yes a lot of black men are wotless fathers but if you allowing them to treat you like salad then stop moaning that your not the main course... At the end of the day he was never in a relationship with any of them they just deluded themselves to think that
Thank you for your comment, I completely agree. However I allowed him to treat me like salad because that was the only way he would stay in his children’s lives. The minute I refused to be with him he no longer cared about his children. Till this day. Hence why I’m speaking out so other women don’t even have to get to this point.
It’s very easy to comment when u haven’t experienced anything she has. Sending love and light to u 💕
Self accountability is non existent. This is the kind of person our mothers told us to avoid.
She's so beautiful ❤ smart and calm. He took advantage of her. I was in similar situation, 16 and he was 24...he couldn't have kids.
I am sorry for your experience. You deserve to be treated like a queen❤
think the moral of the story is as kevin samuels said marry before you csrry and dont select criminals as your baby father this is all common sense
i love kevin samuels, he taught us women a lot
I’m not victim blaming but sometimes us women need to take accountability for the type of men we let breed us ...
not one but two times you allowed him to get you pregnant knowing what he was like and what he did to you and even when he was in a relationship with someone else ☹️
The other woman is also as bad because she knew wagwan with the man and still became the second baby mum wow.
I completely agree and it's refreshing hearing this from a woman. make no mistake that guy is a piece of shit but accountability must also be applied
@@toxicreubz4856 yeah facts he is trash but she should of protected herself more too all the signs were there 😞 I just hope the younger generation can learn I’m tired of seeing this baby mum baby dad culture in our community it’s killing us
@@Kayceeeeeeee544 definitely broken homes our ruining our culture, I hope we can overcome it and level the playing fields with others but this is why accountability is needed. blaming others doesn't show us how to prevent it going forward.
@Bones Akimbo LOL do you know her baby dad?
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
She should of gave him back his money and carried on with her life. She didn't deserve to get attacked physically but she needed to cut all contact and concentrated on her children... Real talk...
Sending her love and prayer x
Unfortunately this woman's story is very common. And the podcast interviewer talks to much and keeps interrupting the interviewer.
These comments are carnage and trash.... lets learn from the story and take the lesson rather than dish out judgement.... jheeze come on people.
but her story shows a lack of common sense
@@redpillreloaded369 We all lack some kind of wisdom in some area, some more than others. Is it our job to laugh and ridicule?
@@theforeignspeculator women know who the bad boys are and they specifically chose them and have kids with them so no excuses.
@@redpillreloaded369 women's preference for things that arent good for them stems back to the Garden of Eden loool, that's an international and universal fact. No one is debating it, but dont you think she and other women are facing the consequence of those decisions? im just saying we don't need to point finger and judge.
@@theforeignspeculator preferences are fine but having babies with unsuitable men causes issues in society as the dysfunctional kids come in society and cause havoc so yes we should judge; as lack of judgment allows these women to not be accountable, women of other races have the sense to use birth control with men who are not father material
poor woman, sending this woman love and prayer
She's a disgrace
1 of my biggest fear in life is sharing a baby mother with these kind of men. Yo my missus & I we gotta work it out man fxck this sh!t
same
with respect this lady cannot play victim; she knew who the good guys were and knew who the bad boys were and she choose bad boys; the nice guys that had a regular job got rejected by her younger self when they approached her
Thank you for your comment,
with respect I was 16 and homeless when I met it him, a key word I stated was that I was GROOMED. He was definitely nicer to me in the beginning than the boys my age or the men that had simply taken advantage of me which he knew about hence why his approach nicer towards me.
@@kikishome8293 nobody told u to breed st 16 I don’t feel sorry for u atal get a life I had two kids by 20 you don’t see me crying about bad dad I’m 32 now grow up man
@@missellz7630 watch the episode properly before writing ignorant comments, I didn’t go on there looking for pitty I went on there to bring awareness to domestic abuse. No disrespect but no one breeds by them self which I’m sure you’re aware. I think the immature one here is you, the type of women that are enablers. Wishing you and your 2 kids the best.
@@kikishome8293 It's so crazy because you would not see this type of comments on the baby father podcast ever. Women seriously need to stop this and be more supportive smh
@@missellz7630 harsh
He violated in an attempt to try and regain control. This happens often but she shouldn’t of shared this story on the internet. Thinking of her kids.
Thank you for your comment, your opinion is appreciated I did think very well about whether I should do the interview or not and I’m prepared to have the hard conversations with my children in the future to address what happened and even attend therapy with them all in order to aid their healing process which I’m aware that they will need. If their father will ever wake up and seek appropriate contact he is more than welcome to join this healing process.
@Bones Akimbo I was the abuser but he’s court ordered not to come within a specific distance of me or my home. At this point you’re either are him or just an ignorant enabler, encouraging a man to stay away from children he helped create. God will judge both you and him accordingly when it’s your time not me. Take care of yourself
Ridiculous comment how can she be accused of rape when this happened to her! Also this man preyed on the her from a young age 🤨
@Bones Akimbo you know so much I’m guessing you’ve been accused of abuse, I’m really sorry your situation was the way it was but you cannot go around discounting people’s experiences. There is a threshold of evidence that’s needed to be granted an NMO.
You have way too much time on your hands and hatred for black women in your heart please seek healing ❤️🩹
@Bones Akimbo if you actually watch all the videos on this account you’ll realise that there are contact centres, he can go to court and get a court order and I’ve even offered mediation even though I’m not at Liberty to. I’m not obliged to be any part of him seeing his kids but since you’re such a smartie pants you facilitate the contact
I definitely feel she went through a lot but I do agree with some of the comments that she shouldn’t of done this interview ( at least not now ) just because of close the timeline is and how young her kids are. It could come back and haunt her ( especially if she ever gets back with him ).
Thank you for your comment, your opinion is appreciated I did think very well about whether I should do the interview or not and I’m prepared to have the hard conversations with my children in the future to address what happened and even attend therapy with them all in order to aid their healing process which I’m aware that they will need. If their father will ever wake up and seek appropriate contact he is more than welcome to join this healing process.
Souldnt have run off from her parents.
Icl the host needs to stop interrupting. Bare jarring
Beg the interviewer stop interrupting so much please, it's very off putting. No disrespect intended
I think she does and did a great Job as the presenter of this podcast making it conversational rather than just a story telling platform.
@@kikishome8293 indeed I enjoy watching the presenter as I seen her in a few other episodes which I enjoyed very much, this episode just seemed to me as though whenever the young lady was going to touch on some key points she was interrupted which personally made me not complete the episode. I will give it another go as I dont want to judge the lady hosting.
This girls chatting waffle
You can see what she was on back in her day
Thank your for your comment…Unfortunately back in my day I was searching for love at the wrong age and wrong time of my life I’ll hold my hands up to that.
Who is eating and drinking on the mic??
Personal responsibility plays a part plus this is your children’s father. Not sure this was the place. What part did she play on reflection.
Thank you for your comment,
Reflection was a key element in the decision to speak out in order to help other women in the same situation.
You did not give her a chance to speak . It was more like a counselling session
The guy sounds like a total bum. Always leaning on women 😔
@Bones Akimbo Thank you for your comment. I don’t want to discredit you Dr Bones but Borderline personality disorder is only 1 of the many conditions that women face after dealing with years of domestic abuse. Please do your research before diagnosing but thank you for your input 😊
So basically you want a man to do 5 years cos he was a manipulater some what a controller and liar but never a physical abuser damn who raised this girl, good luck to the next man, now can we hear the man side!!!
Thank you for your comment, I’ll leave you with some facts that are stated on www.gov.uk & Cps.gov.uk
Controlling or coercive behaviour is an insidious form of domestic abuse that can destroy lives.
Domestic abuse is not always physical violence. It can also include:
-coercive control and ‘gaslighting’
-economic abuse
-online abuse
-threats and intimidation
-emotional abuse
-sexual abuse
(Most of these I have encountered at multiple points of the relationship)
Anyone can be a victim of domestic abuse, regardless of gender, age, ethnicity, religion, socio-economic status, sexuality or background.
If you believe that you are a victim of domestic abuse, there are signs that you can look out for including: (hopefully these signs will help someone who was confused as I was)
-being withdrawn, or being isolated from your family and friends
-having bruises, burns or bite marks on you
-having your finances controlled, or not being given enough to buy food, medication or pay bills
-not being allowed to leave your house, or stopped from going to college or work
-having your internet or social media use monitored, or someone else reading your texts, emails or letters
-being repeatedly belittled, put down or told you are worthless
-being pressured into sex or sexual contact
-being told that abuse is your fault, or that you’re overreacting(it’s a shame that this element of this abuse is being enabled by some of the comments on here, thank God my experience has taught me thick skin)
Domestic abuse does not always have to be physical to be prosecuted - sometimes victims may not even be aware it is happening.
It can include any behaviour deployed by an offender to obtain control or power over another, and we recognise that emotional abuse can be just as harmful as physical violence.
But even when a victim has reported abuse to the police, there are complex reasons they may not see through a prosecution - love, shame, guilt, isolation, fear of the process and language barriers to name just a few.
The level of victim attrition is one of the reasons these cases can be difficult to prosecute. That is why we are working so hard at the CPS and across the criminal justice system to improve the experience and provide protection for these victims and their children.
Maybe this may be too much information for small minded people to take in but hopefully it can shed some light on how far the voices of survivors have come in the fight for justice.
@Bones Akimbo no one deserves to be treated like that, male or female, I advise you to seek help, there are many organisations I can signpost you to especially if you’re open to do the necessary healing needed to move forward with your life.
You need to shush and let her talk bloody hell
so this gal was told by the older man wants to grow with you but she did not require dude to marry her?
Thank you for your comment.
Even if I did get married at the age of 16 don’t you think that the abuse and controll was still capable of occurring.
@@kikishome8293 16 is maybe too young; but you could of chosen to use birth control to avoid pregnancy; or you could of also chose a man who was not doing road man tings
@@redpillreloaded369 I hear you but at the end of the day the children are here now birth controll or not he’s been in their life and chosen to stay out of their lives I’m the one taking full responsibility
@@kikishome8293 I wish you the best; thanks for sharing your story hopefully someone will learn from it
@Bones Akimbo my children will never become state property and you are clearly racist.
One word polygyny
Yes a lot of black men are wotless fathers but if you allowing them to treat you like salad then stop moaning that your not the main course...
At the end of the day he was never in a relationship with any of them they just deluded themselves to think that
Thank you for your comment,
I completely agree. However I allowed him to treat me like salad because that was the only way he would stay in his children’s lives. The minute I refused to be with him he no longer cared about his children. Till this day. Hence why I’m speaking out so other women don’t even have to get to this point.
Whats she smoking
Sending her love and prayer x
Sounds like she deserves a lot of it