I start with a paste wax, but then I follow it up with 🐢 wax 'Ice' spray wax. This has always given my vehicles a deeper/wetter look when compared to using just one or the other. I paste wax twice a year, spray wax once a month. Meguiars gold class carnuba is my preferred paste.
Meguiar's Gold Class was the first wax I ever used - all the way back in high school on my first car! I've been tricked time and time again into thinking that the next thing I buy will be better, but nothing has lived up to or exceeded the Meguiar's 🚗
The most important observation is which lasts longer? I have purchased so many modern spray waxes but the paste wax still seems to last. About 4 months I use meguiars cleaner wax. 50 years old and somehow seems to still work the best as far as lasting the longest. That's weird to me so I do keep watching videos and keep trying new stuff.
I just purchased a new (old 1978 MGB) with 16,800 original miles. Looks like it should be in a museum. I first waxed it with Meguiars cleaner wax in case there was oxidation. Then applied Meguiars Gold Class Carnauba Plus wax. I heard Carnauba wax dries harder than the paint itself. So far I am happy.
Go to Apex Detail on TH-cam. He puts all waxes and sealants through torture tests and uses a gloss meter to also test that. Sealants always WAYYYY over perform waxes for longevity because they are engineered to resist solvents and chemicals. But carnauba waxes give a deeper glow. Most of the sealants these days can give upwards of 6 months of protection. Carnauba won't last much more than 4 weeks or so unless they combine it with a sealant. There's a great combo that gives both longevity and the glow. 1st layer of Jescar Powerlock Plus which is a sealant. Let it cure for several hours then top it with Collinite 845 which is carnauba based to get the best of both worlds. Search both of those terms. Plenty of TH-cam reviews and instructions.
I use Nufinish. It goes on and off easy and leaves a great shine and a slickness that makes me swipe the car every time I pass it. Plus I find the process very therapeutic and the result very satisfying.
I've been using Nu Finish forever. In our climate there's about 5 months where the weather is too bad to wax the car, and Nu Finish easily lasts through winter.
I use to hand wax, I felt there was no way a spray could be more durable than a paste. Emailed Turtle Wax one day, they basically said most waxes these days are not true waxes. They are synthetic polymer sealants regardless of paste, liquid, or spray and it doesn't matter how you choose to apply it. Makes little difference if you apply they work equally as well, and are more a carrier used in order to spread the polymer sealant. Basically summarized it as spray is easier to apply for many people, and less time consuming. It actually made a lot of sense to me, and I've not used paste/liquid wax since.
I think you're right. The Chemical Guys liquid Better Wet Wax has been pretty good for me after Souveran Paste Wax. The carnuba's are loaded with synthetics and do a great job of mimicking the qualities of a carnuba.
@@empower4you972 yeah, zymol on any level is hard to beat though. I have several bottles of the cleaner wax. I waxed my cousin's Buick enclave with it and it looked like a mirror. A guy t-boned him the next day. When asked how the guy didn't see him he told the state trooper that he thought he saw an illusion of water(an oasis if you will). That is no lie.
To live in an time that spray waxes can do the same if not better job than paste waxes is incredible. Can’t beat TW Ice Spray wax. Easy to use. Doesn’t leave any white marks on trim. Lasts only a month for me since my car is always under the sun, but I love waxing once a month anyway.
I've tried many waxes over the years and for a few years i detailed cars for friends and yes, they seem to all give a nice shine but what i look for is how easy they are to apply and wipe off, that's where i find differences
I’ve always waxed once a month since new on my 2018 car. Still looks like new. I’ve never done full ceramic as I don’t have a covered garage to let it cure properly. In the beginning, I used TW super hard shell. Now my go to waxes are Megs cleaner and TW Ice Spray wax.
Appreciate the care you you took for a scientific method! The problem here is that the paint was in poor condition and the only wax that would work well would be the Meguiars cleaner wax, which also contains polishing agents. To judge the difference in quality of shine, expensive wax does create a better look as far as depth and how different styling ques pick up reflections. As with any wax, you can't "build a house without a foundation" the more important steps are proper preparation previous to wax such as buff, clay and polish. Also it is essential when finished with the wax the vehicle be sprayed with a detail spray to pick up excess left over from different steps ( I like to do this with every step) I have found Blackfire Black wax to do an excellent job on dark colors, albeit with proper preparation previous to wax
For paste wax Turtle wax ceramic graphene paste wax is excellent! Also soft99 fussocoat! Both excellent with fussocoat lasting much longer and having crazy hydrophobic properties!
Nice video, I've used all kinds of waxes and sealers. It all depends on all kinds of factors, age. damage from just regular washes and scratches. I've changed from the Turtle wax to Chemical Guys Butter wax. My car is in great condition, so I don't need hard waxes. The only reason I've been using the Butter wax is for convenience. Easy on and off and no dust. Monthly waxing will keep any car looking good. But the video is awesome and answers easy questions. I've always hand waxed my cars. And a bottle of butter will last me 6 months, at 20 bucks that's a great deal for me.
Used CG Butter Wax for years and I've liked the results. I believe that find what works best on your own vehicle and stick with it. Any paint protection is better than none.
Well said. Most people don't even wash their car on a regular basis, but as you say " Any Paint Protection Is Better Than None ". I think we get swept up in all the advertising hype and have to have the latest product BS, i have been using Nu-Finish for years, works for me. people say they changed the formula and it's not the same as the original, i can't see any difference. I top it up with Turtle Wax Seal and Shine as a drying agent after i wash the car and only have to polish it once a year. It's the old Keep It Simple Theory.
Meguiars Cleaner Wax is one of the best values in waxes to this day. I've been using that wax since I first started detailing over 45 years ago. My system was to wash the vehicle, use Meguiars cleaner wax as the "cleansing" stage, then followed with Meguiars Deep Crystal wax on top of it. The paint looked like glass. The cleaner wax is better because it has a very light abrasive formula taking away any light oxidation, bug remains, tar, road film, etc. exfoliating the paint so to speak. It does have wax so it's protected, but I usually always followed it with a pure wax or sealant afterwards to get a little longer durability. It's still available today and is a very reasonably priced wax available at all the auto parts stores and it really does a nice job for the average driver looking for an easy way to protect and maintain their paint for the life of their automobile.
Similar experience when I was testing waxes, they all looked the same. Ease of use and durability is really the main difference between them. Great video! You'd probably like Collinite 845, that one is very nice to use and durable.
They are kinda the same, shocking. I have switched to the spray ceramic, easy to use, doesn’t discolor rubber or plastic and it seams to last a tad longer.
I prefer Zymol - for the garage queen - and turtle wax minute wax spray for the daily. NuFinish is great too - always had been but prefer the paste version
Just get any of the spray waxes. I love most all of them. But they're hard to get used to if you always used paste wax because any more than 1 or 2 sprays per panel and it can streak. It takes such a tiny amount you'll think you're not applying anything other than the slickness. And with the technology these days, a good spray wax will last 6 months or more. I've got over 20 different brands of spray waxes. If I had to suggest a few that you can get at a store instead of online, I would say Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray, Turtle Wax Ice Seal and Shine, or Meguiars Quik Wax. Waxes with carnauba don't last as long but register a little more on gloss tests. Carnauba is gloss, polymer sealants are longevity. I'm 53 and can't rub off wax like I used to do sprays require zero buffing. Wipe on wipe off pretty much.
The cleaner wax helped bring back my wagon, which had 18 years of tough love in Central Wisconsin. Not sleeping in a garage for 18 years of its life. At the car show, they said, "Wow, you really waxed the hell out of this!" I said I only put on one coat throughout. But it's lasted the longest out of many of the products I've used. So I suppose it depends how long it's been since it has last been waxed for results.
I hesitate to use cleaner waxes very often. They potentially have some very fine polishing material in them as the cleaner part...like wet sanding. Maybe use that once every 2 years or when the finish is truly getting dull. Use just a straight wax otherwise. Less harsh on the paint and clearcoat.
After using many waxes throughout the years, Turtle Wax Hardshell seems to last the longest and add the most protection (not including ceramics or graphene).
I have been a professional detailer for about 3 years now but really kicked it up a notch this past year and I also had to play around and test many product to find my best application and for wax applications, turtle wax high gloss spray mist has actually done a great job for me but I do switch it up sometimes I like new finish And the ones u tried, I use chemical guys occasionally but I think it’s has a lot to do with the age, condition and paint type of vehicle at the end of the day
I have owned a detail shop for 20 years. All the paste wax pretty much has the same outcome i have found. We have probably tested 30 different ones. Pretty much comes down to how you like to apply it and what brand you are familiar and comfortable with. The mothers hybrid seems to last a long time vs most we have tried but other than that they are all similar
Used Turtle years ago but every time they said “ new formula “ it seemed to last a shorter time . If it doesn’t bead , it is gone. I found that happened sometimes in less tan a month.
Nice demo. It's been YEARS since i hand waxed any of my vehicles, so i thought I'd come here for some info. Although paste is a little more a pain in the butt to apply, I'm gonna grab some good ole TW . Thanks!
Consumer Reports rated New Finish as the wax with the best over all protection (it lasts the longest says CR) Although New Finish didn’t provide the best shine. I actually bought New Finish and think it’s ability to still bead up on my car nine months later is impressive. Especially being my car is parked outside year around in the Colorado climate.
My first car was a 2010 camaro and I am thinking the same thing! What were my parents thinking. Im just like you, I waxed it every 2 weeks and I loved it. Love the video great work.
I just factory ordered a 2024 Miata RF and it was the first car I've waxed in decades. I used Meguiar's carnuaba liquid wax, which I've read gives a great shine and helps bring out the color of the paint, but doesn't provide as much protection as other waxes and therefore needs re-applied more frequently. Thoughts?
I used to use the turtle wax ice liquid wax but they have discontinued it. It was the easiest wax to apply and remove. The wax came with a sponge applicator that you applied by just running across the paint. You would let it sit for 30min, wipe off the excess, and then finish with a clean dry towel. The best part about it was that you could apply it on hot panels in direct sunlight and it didnt matter.
I've used NuFinish for years. The first time you use it, have to put two coats on. After that, wax once a year. Other waxes have to be renewed monthly.
@@steveneumeyer681not true, i am a detailer and put mother ceramic wax 5 months ago. Still going like the first day, and i dont wash my car often and i drive alot
I have used New Finish for the past 20 years, & have never looked back. One coat in September, & another in October, & I'm good for the harshest winters here in Ontario, Canada. The shine is amazing, & the water still beads after 7 months, & and a minimum of 30 automated car washes. Trust me, you can't go wrong!
I can wax and wash cars by hand all day. In my community when i do it for people i do it cheap. I like seeing shiny cars pass by me going up the highway.
As a young man in the 80s I didn't have $ but I did have time and energy to spare. I waxed my car every week or 2 and enjoyed it for the most part. I used turtlewax paste, liquid and NuFinish. Now in my 50s I have a lil more $ and a lot less energy... I have no desire to wax and buff 12+ times a year. I applied a 2 yr ceramic sealant to my truck and will also use TW ceramic mist as a drying aid every couple of washes. My truck is super hydrophobic, candy like gloss and stays cleaner longer.
The best wax I've ever used is Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax. It goes on clear and wipes off with little to zero effort. The other thing is the shine is brilliant, and that's what I'm most interested in when I wax. I'm not really looking how I can NOT detail my car with longer lasting formula's or whatever based on longevity. The one drawback with Souveran is the price - $69 for 8 ounces. Latest product I've tried is Chemical Guys liquid Butter Wet Wax. It's a Carnuba creme wax and costs only $20 for 16 ounces. I also used a Mequiar's synthetic paste wax - no longer made - but its a little tougher to remove but has outstanding shine qualities as well. Next up for me is Mequiar's Ultimate Paste Wax - because I like the Mequiar's brand.
For a 2008 Honda Element I will use Nu Finish. For a brand new 2023 Subaru Forester I will use Nu Finish. Years ago when I was young and owned a Jeep I spent an arm and a leg on car care products and many hours of elbow grease.
I used to detail cars professionally and I started thinking that all these companies are selling us is fancy packaging and adjectives. I told my wife a few months back that I’m going back old school. Dawn dish washing liquid, windex, turtle wax and armor all.
I use the Turtle Wax paste. It has a cleaner in it that will remove very light abrasions and it shines up great. If you apply it lightly it’s easy to remove. Takes about an hour to do each of my SUV’s and I do it about three times a year…no biggie.
Just bought an orbital buffer for our 01 Excursion, waxing it is like waxing a battleship, and I hope the orbital will be quicker. Im going with the Mcguires cleaner wax. It's a good video.
Thank you so much for making this video 👌👌👌 been using nu finish and don't see why use another one if it's super easy to apply and can do 3-4 times a year (that's just me) 🤪 thanks again 👍🔥👌💪👈
I suggest against turtle wax. Was VERY shiny & left the car butter smooth. Used it for years cuz I was poor, but you saw the streaking. The NUMBER ONE Complaint I’d get from family is the streaking with the Turtle Wax, and it’s harder to remove when it hardens. I’m gonna try my luck with McGuires The liquid turtle wax carnauba is nice, it’s a cream & comes off easily, but DOES NOT LAST AS LONG as the old school wax and buff
I jump at the latest and greatest. The result is a 1 ton capacity cabinet packed with car cleaning products. Yet I always return to Turtle Wax cleaning and waxing paste. Their carnuba spray is great too and lasts a long time, especially after a good cleaning waxing. Different paints will hold it differently.
Which one of these products gives you the most protection? I’ve switched to turtle wax hybrid ceramic spray mainly because it’s supposed to give about 6 months of protection but I do like to use wax as well just be side it’s tried and true.
@@Al-ok1lj people don't understand my love for it either. A few shop owners around here tell me that I'm crazy for charging so low. I guess they feel as though that's one more car that they don't get to clean.
In the late 60s, we waxed my Dad's Car, a Dodge, the Paint came off a couple of years later. It was the Factory Paint. Because of that and the Pain of doing it, I have Never waxed any of my Cars the past 55 yrs.
aAaww.... Sorry to hear that but.... You guys were just Kids back then. Can you check back, in that old garage of your Dad's, to see if the can you used was indeed "Paint Remover" from 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐁𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐞? For me, I once attempted to "heat set" an Iron-on transfer by placing my Tee-Shirt in a Microwave (at my Dad's house). 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 4 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦.
Consumer Reports rated Nu Finish as one of the best waxes for longevity (up to a year) But didn’t rate it for the best shine. I have been use this wax once a year on my car, and think it does a very good job. My car is parked out side all year in extreme weather conditions. In Colorado.
A good test would be to see which one of those lasts the longest. I love my Maguires gold class wax. In the can. The first year I had my car I was all about the spray waxes, ceramic this, and ceramic that. This year I've gone back to traditional hand waxing. I also use Maguires wax as you dry after I wash my car. Which is often 😆. It's actually pretty insane how often I wash my car. Anyway, Ive found that traditional waxes look better on my silver car. I also enjoy waxing.
I used all the fancy stuff on my older silver Mercedes. But nothing brings a better shine than old school carnuba wax at the end of the day .The ceramic and hybrid nano tech stuff lasts longer and beads better, but the old carnuba wax produces the best shine still after all these years .
I have been around a long time .l have always kept all my cars spotless since I was a 16 year old kid .lts kind of an obsession, I just like to have a clean ride
Waxing and detailing my car is my personal zen time. I just tune out everything. It’s really a good feeling that afterwards, your car looks just like new.
I have most of these waxes. I go to Ollie's when they have them on sale and buy them for $5 a piece and usually buy several bottles. I prefer meguiars and mother's the most though. I have several bottles of zymol and really like the stuff.
Ive used almost all the pastes over the years. I dont think doing small squares next to each other works, you just cant see the difference. When you do the whole car, you can really see differences, particularly in the curves, bends etc. Ive noticed The maguiars ultimate has always given the most shine, with a deep wet look that edges out most others. And it lasts pretty good also.
There are 2 kinds of waxes Those that allow water to bead up. Those that allow the water to just sheathe off. I'd rather a pure carnuba wax that sheathes the water. .beaded droplets create thousands of prisms after its wet / rain which can create water spots . A sheathing wax will puddle up the water and let it roll off the car. The best wax ive ever used was a wax called Slipstream airplane wax. Hard to apply and take off ....but the results were worth it
My question is how does it hold up in the sun? I grew up in Hawaii where we parked outside, back in the 70's most wax's back then maybe would last 3 weeks in the sun.
A friend of mine who has been an automotive body guy since the mid 80’s swears by Liquid Luster and even today won’t use any other wax. If you get a chance I would love to see your opinion of that wax.
I used that for years and I can tell you, its easy on easy off, great shine, cleans well and longevity was maybe a month or 2. I had a guy lean on my car and he slid off the paint and fell to the ground LOL. It has a gasoline type smell though dont leave your cloths in the garage.
Excellent video, it confirms what I have been thinking which is that the product is not that important its more important just to get on with it and not neglect washing and waxing. I don't believe the hype with some of the modern coatings that are meant to last for years.
My personal favorite is Rain Dance paste, if you can find it. Nothing I've found or seen lasts as long, 3 months minimum with washing at least once per week from spring to fall. The water beading is unbeatable.
I’ve tried several different kinds of wax from liquid spray to paste wax and I found all of them pretty much have the same shine. The only thing I have found is some wax is harder to take off than others. What I do is to take a couple of ounces of Chemical guys butter wax and put it a 22 ounce bottle, fill it with water and shake it till the wax dissolves in the water. Then I use it about once a week on my cars when I wipe it down. Takes me about five minutes to do my truck and car. I constantly get asked how I keep my car so shiny.
How long after replied and being outside in weather, do the waxes shine and bead water like when just applied? Ease of application and durability matter.
I'll stick with Turtle Wax Hard Shell paste wax. Bit of a pain to apply but it lasts for months. Every wash I use Turtle Wax Wax And Dry spray. I use Meguiars Car Shampoo for wash soap. Water blade and microfibers to dry, I always keep microfibers and Mothers Spray Detailer to take care of bird poo right away. Black Honda Civic, black Mercedes E350 wagon.
Great content, love it! I ceramic coated my car last year, it's always garaged and kept very clean, I'd like to add some wax protection now, can I just add some carnuba wax or should I use a cleaner wax?
Great conclusion I guess they are all similar just different prices, although I've used turtle wax alot in the past I find the wax is harder to buff out so I try to find waxes easier to apply and remove. I just used the Meguires Ultimate liquid wax with a great result but it's $25 a bottle.
At the end of the day, they're all good - some may be better than others but they're all decent. The real deal is proper paint prep , consistent maintenance and [imho] most importantly - technique. How ya use it... Good vid!
Which one of these products gives you the most protection? I’ve switched to turtle wax hybrid ceramic spray mainly because it’s supposed to give about 6 months of protection but I do like to use wax as well just be side it’s tried and true.
Good job there, but now I wonder if there is a difference in how long it lasts. Back when I was poor I used turtle wax then when I started having some cars with decent paint jobs I used McGuire's (or however you spell it) but maybe it looked better BECAUSE I was using it on a first class new paint jobs. I think I will squirt some of that turtle wax next time I buy and see how it does
When i was younger i seen an old man car i think it was a 66 chevy impala...he painted it green with a brush and it looked real good from about 25 feet away..lol. And i remember it had a great shine on it. He told me he used Jubilee spray furniture wax on it. It looked good for the poor old guy. He tried. He was happy. Ill never forget that
Don't laugh. I have a can of Johnson's paste wax for furniture. Hard to put on and hard to take off. But it lasts a really long time. The can is 40 years old.
Very good demonstration. I tend to only use McGuire's brand of anything. The Cleaner Wax is a superior product, in my humble opinion. But I can see that one can go cheaper. Back in the day, Turtle wax used to be king.
I bought a bottle of NU Finish from Harbor Freight. I was astonished how good it was on my old Ford Taurus. It is a cleaner wax. And, it is not a no rub wax. As indicated.
I'm impressed with the expiremen you did on car wax, a friend gave me carnauba wax bullsone and I'm astonished with the shine, how can i get some of this products in Nigeria African. I'm interested in buying and selling of the car wax products
I've used TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic and then in subsequent washes used it as a drying aid and that works extremely well obviously. I do find the ceramic and graphene coatings tend to attract more dust/pollen than traditional wax. I've now switched to CG butterwax and am pretty much following the same routine as I did with the TW and its definitely just as good but the pollen just blows off with the wind vs "sticking" like ceramics/graphene. Totally agree with a lot of other comments here though, as long as you're doing SOMETHING it will go a long way to protecting your paint.
I start with a paste wax, but then I follow it up with 🐢 wax 'Ice' spray wax. This has always given my vehicles a deeper/wetter look when compared to using just one or the other.
I paste wax twice a year, spray wax once a month.
Meguiars gold class carnuba is my preferred paste.
What spray do you use and how do you apply it? Thankyou
Turtle wax "ice" spray is the name
Meguiar's Gold Class was the first wax I ever used - all the way back in high school on my first car! I've been tricked time and time again into thinking that the next thing I buy will be better, but nothing has lived up to or exceeded the Meguiar's 🚗
The most important observation is which lasts longer? I have purchased so many modern spray waxes but the paste wax still seems to last. About 4 months I use meguiars cleaner wax. 50 years old and somehow seems to still work the best as far as lasting the longest. That's weird to me so I do keep watching videos and keep trying new stuff.
I just purchased a new (old 1978 MGB) with 16,800 original miles. Looks like it should be in a museum. I first waxed it with Meguiars cleaner wax in case there was oxidation. Then applied Meguiars Gold Class Carnauba Plus wax. I heard Carnauba wax dries harder than the paint itself. So far I am happy.
thank you for testing 8 different waxes & getting to see them
The meguairs cleaner wax is great and long lasting I recently switched to there gold carnival wax and it is by far the best paste I've used
Best in what way?
Best in what way?
I always like to finish off with a buffing towel and get everything streak and piece of dust gone. I’m very happy with my $5 turtle wax
I think the real test is to see which one lasts the longest. Like a water test 1 month later. Tyvm for the video👍
Go to Apex Detail on TH-cam. He puts all waxes and sealants through torture tests and uses a gloss meter to also test that. Sealants always WAYYYY over perform waxes for longevity because they are engineered to resist solvents and chemicals. But carnauba waxes give a deeper glow. Most of the sealants these days can give upwards of 6 months of protection. Carnauba won't last much more than 4 weeks or so unless they combine it with a sealant. There's a great combo that gives both longevity and the glow. 1st layer of Jescar Powerlock Plus which is a sealant. Let it cure for several hours then top it with Collinite 845 which is carnauba based to get the best of both worlds. Search both of those terms. Plenty of TH-cam reviews and instructions.
I have used Nu Finish for a very long time. Its cheap, it goes on in any light and (most importantly) if buffs out super easily.
I agree, and I have too. The best and most important thing...and the one thing this video doesn't even attempt to address...is that it LASTS.
Exactly. I've used turtle wax before, and that stuff is hard as heck to buff out, unlike nufinish, or any of the ceramic waxes.
I use Nufinish. It goes on and off easy and leaves a great shine and a slickness that makes me swipe the car every time I pass it. Plus I find the process very therapeutic and the result very satisfying.
A lot of people seem to like nufinish. Thanks for commenting.
Not a big car waxer, but I have used Nu Finish for years
Easy to apply and buff. Shines good too.
I agree
My grandpa and dad always used nu finish still have it to this day. Love the stuff
I've been using Nu Finish forever. In our climate there's about 5 months where the weather is too bad to wax the car, and Nu Finish easily lasts through winter.
Thanks for the great videos. I really thought the butter wax was really going to stand out against the others.
I use to hand wax, I felt there was no way a spray could be more durable than a paste.
Emailed Turtle Wax one day, they basically said most waxes these days are not true waxes. They are synthetic polymer sealants regardless of paste, liquid, or spray and it doesn't matter how you choose to apply it.
Makes little difference if you apply they work equally as well, and are more a carrier used in order to spread the polymer sealant.
Basically summarized it as spray is easier to apply for many people, and less time consuming. It actually made a lot of sense to me, and I've not used paste/liquid wax since.
I think you're right. The Chemical Guys liquid Better Wet Wax has been pretty good for me after Souveran Paste Wax. The carnuba's are loaded with synthetics and do a great job of mimicking the qualities of a carnuba.
@@empower4you972 yeah, zymol on any level is hard to beat though. I have several bottles of the cleaner wax. I waxed my cousin's Buick enclave with it and it looked like a mirror. A guy t-boned him the next day. When asked how the guy didn't see him he told the state trooper that he thought he saw an illusion of water(an oasis if you will). That is no lie.
Since then I haven't used the zymol and I still have several bottles unused and I'm really scared to.
To live in an time that spray waxes can do the same if not better job than paste waxes is incredible. Can’t beat TW Ice Spray wax. Easy to use. Doesn’t leave any white marks on trim. Lasts only a month for me since my car is always under the sun, but I love waxing once a month anyway.
Yes I agree and if it's easier to apply and remove like a spray then peeps use it more often
I've tried many waxes over the years and for a few years i detailed cars for friends and yes, they seem to all give a nice shine but what i look for is how easy they are to apply and wipe off, that's where i find differences
I agree
Love to wax also I am not ready to throw waxing on the side and go on ceramic coating yet. It’s just fun little more maintenance
Right? Waxing and detailing my car is like my zen time.
I’ve always waxed once a month since new on my 2018 car. Still looks like new. I’ve never done full ceramic as I don’t have a covered garage to let it cure properly. In the beginning, I used TW super hard shell. Now my go to waxes are Megs cleaner and TW Ice Spray wax.
You could do this test with a gloss meter and get some science behind the shiny :)
Very good point. For the next one we will use a gloss meter. Thank you.
Great to know I don't have to spend a lot of money for great results. Thanks!
You bet!
Appreciate the care you you took for a scientific method! The problem here is that the paint was in poor condition and the only wax that would work well would be the Meguiars cleaner wax, which also contains polishing agents.
To judge the difference in quality of shine, expensive wax does create a better look as far as depth and how different styling ques pick up reflections. As with any wax, you can't "build a house without a foundation" the more important steps are proper preparation previous to wax such as buff, clay and polish. Also it is essential when finished with the wax the vehicle be sprayed with a detail spray to pick up excess left over from different steps ( I like to do this with every step)
I have found Blackfire Black wax to do an excellent job on dark colors, albeit with proper preparation previous to wax
I appreciate your input. We were just trying to recreate what most people would do with their regular vehicles.
For paste wax Turtle wax ceramic graphene paste wax is excellent! Also soft99 fussocoat! Both excellent with fussocoat lasting much longer and having crazy hydrophobic properties!
Nice video, I've used all kinds of waxes and sealers. It all depends on all kinds of factors, age. damage from just regular washes and scratches. I've changed from the Turtle wax to Chemical Guys Butter wax. My car is in great condition, so I don't need hard waxes. The only reason I've been using the Butter wax is for convenience. Easy on and off and no dust. Monthly waxing will keep any car looking good. But the video is awesome and answers easy questions. I've always hand waxed my cars. And a bottle of butter will last me 6 months, at 20 bucks that's a great deal for me.
Hey thank you
Thanks for the No Spin honest test
Used CG Butter Wax for years and I've liked the results. I believe that find what works best on your own vehicle and stick with it. Any paint protection is better than none.
Definitely agree
Well said. Most people don't even wash their car on a regular basis, but as you say " Any Paint Protection Is Better Than None ". I think we get swept up in all the advertising hype and have to have the latest product BS, i have been using Nu-Finish for years, works for me. people say they changed the formula and it's not the same as the original, i can't see any difference. I top it up with Turtle Wax Seal and Shine as a drying agent after i wash the car and only have to polish it once a year. It's the old Keep It Simple Theory.
Meguiars Cleaner Wax is one of the best values in waxes to this day. I've been using that wax since I first started detailing over 45 years ago. My system was to wash the vehicle, use Meguiars cleaner wax as the "cleansing" stage, then followed with Meguiars Deep Crystal wax on top of it. The paint looked like glass. The cleaner wax is better because it has a very light abrasive formula taking away any light oxidation, bug remains, tar, road film, etc. exfoliating the paint so to speak. It does have wax so it's protected, but I usually always followed it with a pure wax or sealant afterwards to get a little longer durability. It's still available today and is a very reasonably priced wax available at all the auto parts stores and it really does a nice job for the average driver looking for an easy way to protect and maintain their paint for the life of their automobile.
Similar experience when I was testing waxes, they all looked the same. Ease of use and durability is really the main difference between them. Great video! You'd probably like Collinite 845, that one is very nice to use and durable.
Hey thanks for your input. I will try the Collinite 945.
He would really love Gyeon Q2 Wax. It has possibly the best hydrophobics I've seen in a wax but it is not cheap.
@@COC785 how much is that Q2?
They are kinda the same, shocking. I have switched to the spray ceramic, easy to use, doesn’t discolor rubber or plastic and it seams to last a tad longer.
I was shocked also. My favorites looked just like all the others.
I am 70 years old and have used only a few different types of waxes. At my age I am looking for durable and easy to apply waxes.
Turtle wax ceramic ice. Just read directions easy to apply and works great
I prefer Zymol - for the garage queen - and turtle wax minute wax spray for the daily. NuFinish is great too - always had been but prefer the paste version
Just get any of the spray waxes. I love most all of them. But they're hard to get used to if you always used paste wax because any more than 1 or 2 sprays per panel and it can streak. It takes such a tiny amount you'll think you're not applying anything other than the slickness. And with the technology these days, a good spray wax will last 6 months or more. I've got over 20 different brands of spray waxes. If I had to suggest a few that you can get at a store instead of online, I would say Turtle Wax Hybrid Solutions Ceramic Spray, Turtle Wax Ice Seal and Shine, or Meguiars Quik Wax. Waxes with carnauba don't last as long but register a little more on gloss tests. Carnauba is gloss, polymer sealants are longevity. I'm 53 and can't rub off wax like I used to do sprays require zero buffing. Wipe on wipe off pretty much.
Fantastic video! No BS. Thanks for posting. 👍
The cleaner wax helped bring back my wagon, which had 18 years of tough love in Central Wisconsin. Not sleeping in a garage for 18 years of its life. At the car show, they said, "Wow, you really waxed the hell out of this!" I said I only put on one coat throughout. But it's lasted the longest out of many of the products I've used. So I suppose it depends how long it's been since it has last been waxed for results.
I hesitate to use cleaner waxes very often. They potentially have some very fine polishing material in them as the cleaner part...like wet sanding. Maybe use that once every 2 years or when the finish is truly getting dull. Use just a straight wax otherwise. Less harsh on the paint and clearcoat.
@derekmckean5593 yea, ive only use it on vehicles that haven't been touched in a long time except the occasional car wash.
After using many waxes throughout the years, Turtle Wax Hardshell seems to last the longest and add the most protection (not including ceramics or graphene).
I have been a professional detailer for about 3 years now but really kicked it up a notch this past year and I also had to play around and test many product to find my best application and for wax applications, turtle wax high gloss spray mist has actually done a great job for me but I do switch it up sometimes I like new finish And the ones u tried, I use chemical guys occasionally but I think it’s has a lot to do with the age, condition and paint type of vehicle at the end of the day
thank for this video really helped me
I have owned a detail shop for 20 years. All the paste wax pretty much has the same outcome i have found. We have probably tested 30 different ones. Pretty much comes down to how you like to apply it and what brand you are familiar and comfortable with. The mothers hybrid seems to last a long time vs most we have tried but other than that they are all similar
I agree
I use Turtle wax because that is what my father used when I was growing up so it is what I have the most experience with.
Used Turtle years ago but every time they said “ new formula “ it seemed to last a shorter time . If it doesn’t bead , it is gone. I found that happened sometimes in less tan a month.
The new formula removes from body plastics easier. It used to be a pain to remove turtle wax from plastics
Nice demo. It's been YEARS since i hand waxed any of my vehicles, so i thought I'd come here for some info.
Although paste is a little more a pain in the butt to apply, I'm gonna grab some good ole TW .
Thanks!
thanks for watching
Consumer Reports rated New Finish as the wax with the best over all protection (it lasts the longest says CR) Although New Finish didn’t provide the best shine. I actually bought New Finish and think it’s ability to still bead up on my car nine months later is impressive. Especially being my car is parked outside year around in the Colorado climate.
And it's affordable
Yep.
Nothing, including high priced ceramics, really lasts nearly as long as they claim.
Save your money.
I use Nu Finish. They claim once a year. Don’t know about that ,as I do mine twice a year, as soon as I can in spring, then again in early fall.
@@ericripley9739 I agree. I have waxed my car with it twice. It works well, although twice a year appears to be best.
My first car was a 2010 camaro and I am thinking the same thing! What were my parents thinking. Im just like you, I waxed it every 2 weeks and I loved it. Love the video great work.
My second car at age 19 was a 1964 Fuelly Vette. Got pulled over for doing 146 mph in a 55 mph zone. Good times.
Great video 👍🏽 thank you for your efforts
Thank you
I just factory ordered a 2024 Miata RF and it was the first car I've waxed in decades. I used Meguiar's carnuaba liquid wax, which I've read gives a great shine and helps bring out the color of the paint, but doesn't provide as much protection as other waxes and therefore needs re-applied more frequently. Thoughts?
I used to use the turtle wax ice liquid wax but they have discontinued it. It was the easiest wax to apply and remove. The wax came with a sponge applicator that you applied by just running across the paint. You would let it sit for 30min, wipe off the excess, and then finish with a clean dry towel. The best part about it was that you could apply it on hot panels in direct sunlight and it didnt matter.
I've used NuFinish for years. The first time you use it, have to put two coats on. After that, wax once a year. Other waxes have to be renewed monthly.
If your car is not garaged, it will wear off horizontal surfaces after about 4 months here in the Midwest, USA
@@steveneumeyer681not true, i am a detailer and put mother ceramic wax 5 months ago. Still going like the first day, and i dont wash my car often and i drive alot
Excellent, fair comparison for looks, but you should have tested the feel for slickness too. Thanks for the great info.
I have used New Finish for the past 20 years, & have never looked back. One coat in September, & another in October, & I'm good for the harshest winters here in Ontario, Canada. The shine is amazing, & the water still beads after 7 months, & and a minimum of 30 automated car washes. Trust me, you can't go wrong!
Really like the turtle wax. Super cheap good protection for 3-4 months it is kind of more work on buffing off by hand though.
I always have a been a fan of nu finish works great full car
I can wax and wash cars by hand all day. In my community when i do it for people i do it cheap. I like seeing shiny cars pass by me going up the highway.
As a young man in the 80s I didn't have $ but I did have time and energy to spare. I waxed my car every week or 2 and enjoyed it for the most part. I used turtlewax paste, liquid and NuFinish. Now in my 50s I have a lil more $ and a lot less energy... I have no desire to wax and buff 12+ times a year. I applied a 2 yr ceramic sealant to my truck and will also use TW ceramic mist as a drying aid every couple of washes. My truck is super hydrophobic, candy like gloss and stays cleaner longer.
What brand, please?
@@mrdave777 Avalonking
@@mrdave777 Avalonking Armor Sheild IX
The best wax I've ever used is Pinnacle Souveran Paste Wax. It goes on clear and wipes off with little to zero effort. The other thing is the shine is brilliant, and that's what I'm most interested in when I wax. I'm not really looking how I can NOT detail my car with longer lasting formula's or whatever based on longevity. The one drawback with Souveran is the price - $69 for 8 ounces. Latest product I've tried is Chemical Guys liquid Butter Wet Wax. It's a Carnuba creme wax and costs only $20 for 16 ounces. I also used a Mequiar's synthetic paste wax - no longer made - but its a little tougher to remove but has outstanding shine qualities as well. Next up for me is Mequiar's Ultimate Paste Wax - because I like the Mequiar's brand.
Used to be able to buy zymol at Walmart years ago. Can't find it anywhere locally anymore.
I have always had great luck with the turtle wax hybrid spray. The last application on my wife’s car was rolling water off a year later.
For a 2008 Honda Element I will use Nu Finish. For a brand new 2023 Subaru Forester I will use Nu Finish. Years ago when I was young and owned a Jeep I spent an arm and a leg on car care products and many hours of elbow grease.
I used to detail cars professionally and I started thinking that all these companies are selling us is fancy packaging and adjectives. I told my wife a few months back that I’m going back old school. Dawn dish washing liquid, windex, turtle wax and armor all.
Armor all actually destroys your interior though, the rest I have no objections to
Truth. After trying so many high-end wax/ceramic products, I have noticed that nothing seems to last beyond 3-4 months.
I use speed wax. What ceramic product should I do next?
@@cs1992Exactly! 3 months in the sun, no garage, in NC. Maybe one of those $600 ceramic jobs might be better, but.... $$$!!
If you were a professional detailer you would know armor all is the absolute worst you can use
I use the Turtle Wax paste. It has a cleaner in it that will remove very light abrasions and it shines up great.
If you apply it lightly it’s easy to remove. Takes about an hour to do each of my SUV’s and I do it about three times a year…no biggie.
Thank you for sharing your experience
Just bought an orbital buffer for our 01 Excursion, waxing it is like waxing a battleship, and I hope the orbital will be quicker. Im going with the Mcguires cleaner wax. It's a good video.
Great plan with the orbital. It will save your arms for sure. Thank you for commenting.
Thank you so much for making this video 👌👌👌 been using nu finish and don't see why use another one if it's super easy to apply and can do 3-4 times a year (that's just me) 🤪 thanks again 👍🔥👌💪👈
I suggest against turtle wax. Was VERY shiny & left the car butter smooth.
Used it for years cuz I was poor, but you saw the streaking. The NUMBER ONE Complaint I’d get from family is the streaking with the Turtle Wax, and it’s harder to remove when it hardens. I’m gonna try my luck with McGuires
The liquid turtle wax carnauba is nice, it’s a cream & comes off easily, but DOES NOT LAST AS LONG as the old school wax and buff
I jump at the latest and greatest. The result is a 1 ton capacity cabinet packed with car cleaning products. Yet I always return to Turtle Wax cleaning and waxing paste. Their carnuba spray is great too and lasts a long time, especially after a good cleaning waxing. Different paints will hold it differently.
How long does it last?
Which one of these products gives you the most protection? I’ve switched to turtle wax hybrid ceramic spray mainly because it’s supposed to give about 6 months of protection but I do like to use wax as well just be side it’s tried and true.
You are not the only one my guy for I have a cache of detailing chemicals also.
Same! My wife thinks I’m insane. She kinda understands now when I said me detailing the car is like her shopping.
@@Al-ok1lj people don't understand my love for it either. A few shop owners around here tell me that I'm crazy for charging so low. I guess they feel as though that's one more car that they don't get to clean.
In the late 60s, we waxed my Dad's Car, a Dodge, the Paint came off a couple of years later. It was the Factory Paint. Because of that and the Pain of doing it, I have Never waxed any of my Cars the past 55 yrs.
aAaww.... Sorry to hear that but.... You guys were just Kids back then. Can you check back, in that old garage of your Dad's, to see if the can you used was indeed "Paint Remover" from 𝐒𝐭𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐚𝐫𝐝 𝐁𝐫𝐚𝐧𝐝𝐬 𝐇𝐚𝐫𝐝𝐰𝐚𝐫𝐞? For me, I once attempted to "heat set" an Iron-on transfer by placing my Tee-Shirt in a Microwave (at my Dad's house). 𝘛𝘩𝘦 𝘳𝘦𝘴𝘶𝘭𝘵 𝘪𝘴 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘴𝘵𝘰𝘳𝘺 4 𝘢𝘯𝘰𝘵𝘩𝘦𝘳 𝘵𝘪𝘮𝘦.
🤣🤣
Consumer Reports rated Nu Finish as one of the best waxes for longevity (up to a year) But didn’t rate it for the best shine. I have been use this wax once a year on my car, and think it does a very good job. My car is parked out side all year in extreme weather conditions. In Colorado.
Been using nu-finish for years. Always happy with result, trick is second coat after a couple of weeks. Getting harder to find a stockist now.
You should definitely try Torque mirror & waterless it goes on easy and light buffing!!
Use that Nu Finish on your windows. Quiet’s noisy wiper blades & during heavy rain you’ll see better as the water flies off the windshield.
A good test would be to see which one of those lasts the longest. I love my Maguires gold class wax. In the can. The first year I had my car I was all about the spray waxes, ceramic this, and ceramic that. This year I've gone back to traditional hand waxing. I also use Maguires wax as you dry after I wash my car. Which is often 😆. It's actually pretty insane how often I wash my car. Anyway, Ive found that traditional waxes look better on my silver car. I also enjoy waxing.
I used all the fancy stuff on my older silver Mercedes. But nothing brings a better shine than old school carnuba wax at the end of the day .The ceramic and hybrid nano tech stuff lasts longer and beads better, but the old carnuba wax produces the best shine still after all these years .
@@DaytonaDan-bi2wb i totally agree! I've also noticed I have to clay bar less if I use classic carnauba wax.
I have been around a long time .l have always kept all my cars spotless since I was a 16 year old kid .lts kind of an obsession, I just like to have a clean ride
Waxing and detailing my car is my personal zen time. I just tune out everything. It’s really a good feeling that afterwards, your car looks just like new.
Please note, polish is what really makes paint shiny, more than wax. Wax just helps protect mostly.
It’s not paint, it’s clear coat!
I have most of these waxes. I go to Ollie's when they have them on sale and buy them for $5 a piece and usually buy several bottles. I prefer meguiars and mother's the most though. I have several bottles of zymol and really like the stuff.
Ive used almost all the pastes over the years. I dont think doing small squares next to each other works, you just cant see the difference. When you do the whole car, you can really see differences, particularly in the curves, bends etc. Ive noticed The maguiars ultimate has always given the most shine, with a deep wet look that edges out most others. And it lasts pretty good also.
Thanks for sharing
Great video. Thnx!
@@jemb710 thank you
It looks like we’re in the golden age of waxes so it’s just a matter of personal preference
I waxed my Mazda Tribute with Nu Finish....it lasted years....I was amazed.
@@black_dog_barks awesome. Thanks for your input.
There are 2 kinds of waxes
Those that allow water to bead up.
Those that allow the water to just sheathe off.
I'd rather a pure carnuba wax that sheathes the water.
.beaded droplets create thousands of prisms after its wet / rain which can create water spots .
A sheathing wax will puddle up the water and let it roll off the car.
The best wax ive ever used was a wax called Slipstream airplane wax.
Hard to apply and take off ....but the results were worth it
My question is how does it hold up in the sun? I grew up in Hawaii where we parked outside, back in the 70's most wax's back then maybe would last 3 weeks in the sun.
I live out here in Guam. Yeah, waxes only last about a month for me no matter what I used. I wax once a month anyway.
Love the results elbow grease has to be the best one
A friend of mine who has been an automotive body guy since the mid 80’s swears by Liquid Luster and even today won’t use any other wax.
If you get a chance I would love to see your opinion of that wax.
@@einstein3509 I will add it to the list
I used that for years and I can tell you, its easy on easy off, great shine, cleans well and longevity was maybe a month or 2. I had a guy lean on my car and he slid off the paint and fell to the ground LOL. It has a gasoline type smell though dont leave your cloths in the garage.
Have used meguiars cleaner wax for over 20 years!
Also like Nu Finish and chemical guys.
Never had to clay bar my cars.
If all are ok then Mothers CMX is quite easy and fast to apply. Is there other easier?
Collinite, Powerlock(sealant), FlexWax, Shineewax, Rapidwax are some that you must try...
Excellent video, it confirms what I have been thinking which is that the product is not that important its more important just to get on with it and not neglect washing and waxing. I don't believe the hype with some of the modern coatings that are meant to last for years.
I have always really loved Zymol but after this test I guess I will grab whatever is close.
My personal favorite is Rain Dance paste, if you can find it. Nothing I've found or seen lasts as long, 3 months minimum with washing at least once per week from spring to fall. The water beading is unbeatable.
Rain Dance is a DuPont product. Good name good product.
I have not heard that name in a LONG TIME ! I used it a lot.
Thank you for doing the comparison.
Have you tried using the clay before waxing?
I have not
I’ve tried several different kinds of wax from liquid spray to paste wax and I found all of them pretty much have the same shine. The only thing I have found is some wax is harder to take off than others. What I do is to take a couple of ounces of Chemical guys butter wax and put it a 22 ounce bottle, fill it with water and shake it till the wax dissolves in the water. Then I use it about once a week on my cars when I wipe it down. Takes me about five minutes to do my truck and car. I constantly get asked how I keep my car so shiny.
Well at least I'm not crazy. They all had the same shine inside and outside.
Meguiar's Black Wax had amazing "depth" on my dark blue Golf GTI. Unfortunately they stopped making the wax around 2020.
How long after replied and being outside in weather, do the waxes shine and bead water like when just applied? Ease of application and durability matter.
I'll stick with Turtle Wax Hard Shell paste wax. Bit of a pain to apply but it lasts for months. Every wash I use Turtle Wax Wax And Dry spray. I use Meguiars Car Shampoo for wash soap. Water blade and microfibers to dry, I always keep microfibers and Mothers Spray Detailer to take care of bird poo right away. Black Honda Civic, black Mercedes E350 wagon.
So being that they all look similar, which would you say was easiest to use? More specifically, easiest to buff off??
Turtle wax or McGuire's
Great content, love it! I ceramic coated my car last year, it's always garaged and kept very clean, I'd like to add some wax protection now, can I just add some carnuba wax or should I use a cleaner wax?
Honestly I can't say for sure what you should use over the ceramic coating.
I split my SUV and cover several panels each week: roof, side panels, hood. It helps to reduce weekly car wash to 2 hours only.
The difference is in how long each one lasts and what will remove them. Project Farm has a great comparison on this
Great conclusion I guess they are all similar just different prices, although I've used turtle wax alot in the past I find the wax is harder to buff out so I try to find waxes easier to apply and remove. I just used the Meguires Ultimate liquid wax with a great result but it's $25 a bottle.
Thank you for watching and taking the time to comment.
At the end of the day, they're all good - some may be better than others but they're all decent.
The real deal is proper paint prep , consistent maintenance and [imho] most importantly - technique. How ya use it...
Good vid!
I agree
Which one of these products gives you the most protection? I’ve switched to turtle wax hybrid ceramic spray mainly because it’s supposed to give about 6 months of protection but I do like to use wax as well just be side it’s tried and true.
To be honest I can't say for sure. None of them had advertised protection or duration on the bottle.
I use some liquid ceramic wax, for the ease of application and absence of dust. Meguiars is pretty good
Your test should also include breakdown. Wash and see which loses properties after so many to include the type of chem used.
Good job there, but now I wonder if there is a difference in how long it lasts. Back when I was poor I used turtle wax then when I started having some cars with decent paint jobs I used McGuire's (or however you spell it) but maybe it looked better BECAUSE I was using it on a first class new paint jobs. I think I will squirt some of that turtle wax next time I buy and see how it does
Appreciate your comment. Longevity is important.
When i was younger i seen an old man car i think it was a 66 chevy impala...he painted it green with a brush and it looked real good from about 25 feet away..lol.
And i remember it had a great shine on it.
He told me he used Jubilee spray furniture wax on it.
It looked good for the poor old guy.
He tried. He was happy.
Ill never forget that
Don't laugh. I have a can of Johnson's paste wax for furniture. Hard to put on and hard to take off. But it lasts a really long time. The can is 40 years old.
Very good demonstration. I tend to only use McGuire's brand of anything. The Cleaner Wax is a superior product, in my humble opinion. But I can see that one can go cheaper. Back in the day, Turtle wax used to be king.
Collinite 915 for shine, ease of wiping off, 3-4 month durability
Next time use Tonyin Graphene Wax or Turtle Wax Graphene Wax 😊
Black magic intense graphene is pretty good too.
Awesome test guys however I would have liked to see the water sheeting test that would be interesting 🤔
I bought a bottle of NU Finish from Harbor Freight. I was astonished how good it was on my old Ford Taurus. It is a cleaner wax. And, it is not a no rub wax. As indicated.
Definitely agree, bottle says no rub no buff..but how in the heck are you supposed to get it off.
I used Klasse All in One for years because of its durability and ease of use. You could get by with twice a year on it. It is expensive.
I'm impressed with the expiremen you did on car wax, a friend gave me carnauba wax bullsone and I'm astonished with the shine, how can i get some of this products in Nigeria African. I'm interested in buying and selling of the car wax products
Turtle wax hybrid solutions ceramic wax spray. $13, spray on and wipe off.
I've used TW Hybrid Solutions Ceramic and then in subsequent washes used it as a drying aid and that works extremely well obviously. I do find the ceramic and graphene coatings tend to attract more dust/pollen than traditional wax. I've now switched to CG butterwax and am pretty much following the same routine as I did with the TW and its definitely just as good but the pollen just blows off with the wind vs "sticking" like ceramics/graphene.
Totally agree with a lot of other comments here though, as long as you're doing SOMETHING it will go a long way to protecting your paint.