Oh no I can't read again! Cataclysm only discards 2 cards. Will be interesting to see how that plays out if its a buff to other decks or not! Also RIP Mechathun Warlock.
You also misread the big buff to the Duels card Fractured Spirits as a nerf. ^^ It used to Silence first, then summon two (silenced) copies. Now, it summons two copies (with any deathrattle, buff etc.), and then it silences the original minion. So even though it went from 4 to 6 Mana it's not "a little bit less busted", it's a LOT more busted. ^^
It could be run in normal warlock decks. But it won't. Defile, Hysteria, Plague of Flames and Dark Skies are just better. Especially when Wild is so Combo focused, potentially discarding your Combo pieces is a terrible idea and a 4 mana board wipe isn't worth that.
I'm honestly surprised they didn't just change pillager to 'Combo: Your Combo minions get +1 attack this turn.' instead of pretending like this nerfed version is playable.
I’d argue Quest Mage is far from dead, you just can’t use the most braindead versions of it, aka play Quest and 2 Parrots and win with the board. You can still go infinite with Quest with the new Recast things that didn’t start in your deck legendary, bankers and a well used Commander.
You can still play Quest Mage, yeah. It's just not a meta deck anymore. Rommath is simply too slow a wincon to get going for the deck to perform at the highest levels.
ZEDDY YOU'RE CRAZY!! how on earth did u predict all nerfs to the T...??? Gnoll to 11, the bird recasts only 6 and above spell cost, and the location of DK upped by 1 cost!
Well, looking forward to Mark making another Spectral Pillager OTK... he'll just have to use Silas Darkmoon to give the opponent a Soulbound Ashtongue.
@@izaiahsundquist6877 That wouldn't work because says "to a minion". if it worked that way you could as well as cast Assassinate on a minion to kill your opponent.
Fractured Spirits is actually a really fun buff, summoning two silenced copies was very awkward as we couldn't buff a big minion early and then clone it. I'm gonna retry Cube Priest in duels now :D
I think its important to celebrate just how elegant some of these nerfs are, and that it seems as though blizzard paid attention to our criticism! Ofcourse, they aren't always very good at listening, or quick to act, but thats why we should appreciate changes like this :)
Hope they rework Pillager in the future. Since they're Warsong Commandering it with this change. Would be nice if they changed it into something that actually has a reason to be used over the 1 mana pirate... Heck even just making it deal the damage to ALL enemy minions would be something (Not particularly useful for Wild Rogue but it would at least have a purpose)
Singe Target removal not useful enough for you? The Card van still obliterate most Dragons when Played right, it just will take actual skill, rather than just luck of hand to win against your opponent now.
I didn't know parrot only cared about base cost! I thought I'd had one reduced to 2 and it didn't work but clearly my memory is failing me again, thanks for this! :)
Seems like they also hit hard on Duels. I like the changes, but I’m sad that Greedy Gains DK wont be as strong as before, constantly getting 3/3’s on board and pressuring the opp
AMAZING wild changes I am finally really proud of balance team they did a good job. I just hope they will continue to balance wild further for more enjoyable and healthier experience. Next deck in queue for nerfs should be big priest, secret mage, mill druid, shudderwock. Do this and wild will be waaaaaaaaay better and fun mode to play in.
If you lose to Shudderwock you fully deserve that loss. Shudderwock takes forever to setup right compared to pretty much all decks out there. While you might be worried about the shudder dropping somewhere between turn 10-12, Rogue would have looooong killed you with Pillager...
@Paul Rivieras shudderwok is an auto-loss unless you are playing a considerably faster deck as they have plenty of hand disruption to stop you from comboing out before they do. It's also an extremely toxic play pattern. No. Shudderwok needs the nerf bat. Put that bastard to 10 mana and make his battlecry only copy a limited number of unique battlecries played by other cards. Shudderwok may not be the best deck in legend but it's a nightmare across all lower/middle ranks.
The mill part of mill druid isn't really the problem. It's the ramp power that Druid has as a class. They need to do something about its ridiculous ramp power.
I've actually left hs some time ago, waiting to return when gnoll rotates out after getting slapped by the colossal minion and other op stuff at a time when I just had to have the perfect answer or die. But this is even better, love it.
The nerf makes evolve shaman completetly unviable as you can't evolve into 10 drops anymore and will always get an 11 mana 5/4 after you evolve a 10 drop.
The cards didn't got translate to Brazilian Portuguese, so I open HS to check the changes and the only chance to Pillager was the cost to 5, i had a mini hearth attack
location too 4 mana is nice, but frostwyrm-fury was the worst offender i think, its impossible to win against frost dk with decks like pala, implock, hunter and board based stuff when u get freezed several rounds in a row and take insane dmg, I think its really supressing alot of board-decks
Not happy with the Cataclysm nerf. I don't like Disco Warlock but I also don't think that they should have axed the card because Mechathun Warlock got caught in the cross-fire.
I can confirm that wild quest mage reward spell doesn't work with Gray Sage Parrot anymore even after playing Kirin Tor Tricaster before using that reward spell.
Also why are we taking steps backwards when nerfing cards? Spectral pillager is now objectively worse than vinespine by almost every metric now. Surely there is a more interesting way to change the card than killing it entirely
I’m actually very surprised in a positive way. They really addressed all of the frustrating problem cards in both standard and wild. Who cares that they gutted some cards, they were toxic and super unhealthy for the game. I’m really happy with this patch.
I'm generally positive overall, and I still am happy they did this. But I just wish they had done more. Maybe some buffs? To your point this is the last patch before a lot of these cards rotate. Might as well have a month of crazy shenanigans to celebrate this year, I dunno
grease bot goes all the way back to how it was originally on four! playing with six-drop grease bot was fun but imo having it on four makes that build way more viable because you don't have to push to six to start scaling and you can now stabilize like three turns earlier. Interesting to see the stat buff is +2/+1 and not +1/+1 - i think that reflects an increased power level in battlegrounds, but i don't think that's really a bad thing.
Evolve Shaman is now more reliant on Tiny Toys + Infused Masque, and will now be permanently removing Gnoll, and possibly the piranhas, too. They'll now be using more token maker cards, slowing down the early game, but still having strong pop off turns in mid-to-late game. Not my playstyle, but I think some versions will still putter around after this nerf. Still gonna go to t3 probably, skipping t2 entirely. SUPER pleased with the Parrot change and Cataclysm change. Still gonna argue they need to buff Demolition Renovator to be cheaper and more usable against the popular locations. EDIT: Update after patch: Frost Aggro DK is still bonkers, Frostwyrm Fury needs nerfed because it's fucking gross, and the Construct Quarter nerf is nice, but less impactful than we hoped. It's still a power player. At least Evolve Shaman is dead to rights.
hasn't been doing well and this is a huge nerf to it, kinda weird how zeddy said "it can still do its thing" when itll cost u extra turns to empty ur hand while fatiguing
Pillager was given the Warsong treatment. That card will NEVER see play again. There is no reason to pick pillager over that 1 mana pirate that does the exact same thing but is far cheaper and tutorable.
This killed Evolve shaman instantly. Evolving a Gnoll 4 times just to get him to evolve into another Gnoll each time.. I mean whats is the point of using Gnoll now?
Ive been begging for time warp nerfs. Id rather they just remove shit like time warp and jade druid. And big priest. Things that are just "repeat the same play over and over" are so poisonous to a fun wild meta
I'm in d5, actually play a lot and can not recall a single match where a shaman evolved a gnoll into something heavy. Maybe its just me, but i didnt see it as big as a threat. As for pillager rogue, its a salvation to see it destroyed, nothing feels more demoralizing as having full board control with 35 + hp, and going down to zero on turn 5-6, being unable to do anything. Thank for these changes
I'm really sad about the Cataclysm nerf. I had no trouble with Disco warlock at all, because I have an 80% winrate against it, but now Mecha'Thun is literally unplayable for Warlock, which is so stupid. And about the parrot being nerfed. I don't mind if a quest mage can get the combo off, the problem is when they get it off, so nerfing it to 8 mana would be a lot more fair imo, but instead they literally killed high synergy decks just because.
they nerfed decks with bad play patterns, playing time warp 40 times is not supposed to be possible, killing people from hand on turn 4-5-6 with pillager rogue is not supposed to be possible, one shotting people from hand with cataclysm on turn 4-5-6 is not supposed to happen, good riddance to them all. Sad that mechatun warlock get caught in the crossfire but it was already a bad deck so is it really that big of a deal?
@@Maektar Up the costs for cataclysm, pillager. That makes them less viable but still playable. And the mage quest, if it's not repeatable what is the point of the deck really?
@@johantitulaer1052 time warp is supposed to be a really powerful one time use card to either outtempo or finish an enemy. being able to play 10+ turns in a row with the opponent watching has to be the most degenerate thing ive ever seen in hearthstone once the combo got rolling
I lost to them a lot, but since the matches were over very fast it didn't bother me. It wasn't like mage where they played solitaire for 15 minutes first.
I hope Zephrys will be easier to get because I have seriously counted the resources I need to craft the cards... However after the count I have come to the conclusion that I don't need the diamond version 😂💎💎😂💎🤣
Thank God gnoll is dead and evolve shaman is dead. Im pleased with the slight nerf to construct quarter but I think making the rusher a 3/4 would've been better and I'm still gonna bitch about frostwyrms fury until it gets nerfed
This is possibly one of the worst and generally short sighted patch I’ve seen in a while. The devs have done preemptive nerfs during the last 2 patches but failed horribly to c the obvious meta to come. Who actually believes that evolve shaman/frost dk meta is genuinely worse than a scissors paper stone meta btw minelock/miracle rogue/bless priest? This in no way opened up the meta and even made recently made decks like quest astalor Druid virtually unplayable now
You kill a lot of players' cards because you're afraid of losing to those decks. You even murdered one of your best friend Theo's favorite decks.Bro I don't know how Canada convicts murder!
the gnoll nerve is but but for me its still the bad mistake in the evolve cards evolve a 10 man into one that cost 1 or 2 MORE means in 11 or 12 not in another 10 if no valid "Target" exists than no evolve should be happen Simple Thing^^
Haha everyone still complains about druid and his rampaging,however if you look at Diamond and legend - statistically, its right above warrior class. None of the druid decks are competitive in the current meta, so yeah you get 20 mana turn six, but that does nothing to be frank as it gets overwhelmed by the aggro.
i wonder why they dont just go bananas when there is a month of hydra would be so fresh just to buff all weak cards and say fuk the meta for a brief while
I feel like an underlying problem that will need to be addressed is coin generation and how it interacts with other cards. Quest Mage is a deck that doesn't even run random spells anymore because why on earth would you when Mailbox Dancer and such exist? Same for Pillager Rogue. Turns out shadowstepping Mailbox dancer with a spirit on board just gives you infinite mana and "cards played" to work with.
yeah i agree, at one point they will have to realise how op it is to generate that much mana, id put floop's glorious gloop in the same category, getting mana for free is a problem in wild
Oh no I can't read again! Cataclysm only discards 2 cards. Will be interesting to see how that plays out if its a buff to other decks or not! Also RIP Mechathun Warlock.
RIP
Dark Bargain power creep BLIZZAAAARD /s
You also misread the big buff to the Duels card Fractured Spirits as a nerf. ^^ It used to Silence first, then summon two (silenced) copies. Now, it summons two copies (with any deathrattle, buff etc.), and then it silences the original minion. So even though it went from 4 to 6 Mana it's not "a little bit less busted", it's a LOT more busted. ^^
should i desenchant Cataclysm??
@@ernestogoris8816 disenchant everything nerfed, if you wanna get it back you can just craft it again later, you get all dust back
It’s cool that now cataclysm could be run in normal warlock decks
and always discard Reno and Zepega :D
I wouldn't risk losing 2 good cards for a board clear, I'd rather use Hysteria.
Defile does the same for 2 mana
It could be run in normal warlock decks. But it won't.
Defile, Hysteria, Plague of Flames and Dark Skies are just better. Especially when Wild is so Combo focused, potentially discarding your Combo pieces is a terrible idea and a 4 mana board wipe isn't worth that.
@@gachibass3639 lmao
didnt expect that cataclysm nerf but honestly its a really elegant solution and brings new life to the card i really like it!
I'm actually surprised how good the changes are. They really tried to solve the problems instead of increasing the costs of the cards by one.
Cataclysm discards only 2 cards now...please read cards
I'm honestly surprised they didn't just change pillager to 'Combo: Your Combo minions get +1 attack this turn.' instead of pretending like this nerfed version is playable.
Other people have said it too but Cataclysm was changed from discard your hand to discard 2 cards. Otherwise great video Zeddy!
Deathstrider was originally 2 mana, so they didn't fully revert it, only like half revert
RIP Mecha'thunlock Deck
I’d argue Quest Mage is far from dead, you just can’t use the most braindead versions of it, aka play Quest and 2 Parrots and win with the board.
You can still go infinite with Quest with the new Recast things that didn’t start in your deck legendary, bankers and a well used Commander.
At least is not game over that easy
WTF Banker got to do with it?
Rommath + Generated Potion of Illusion (From using Sivara) = Infinite Time Warp
You can still play Quest Mage, yeah. It's just not a meta deck anymore. Rommath is simply too slow a wincon to get going for the deck to perform at the highest levels.
They actually killed Pillager Rogue lol
good riddance to one of the most toxic decks in wild
Commenting here to spit on Pillager's grave lmao
Big priest and secret mage next on the chopping block
@@ricardo8268 don't give me hope
I would have liked to see destroy replaced with transform for construct quarter to completely slow it down, Im worried one mana isnt enough.
Agreed
this saddens me. the parrot change kills the deck of wonders gimic
Nerf to quarter did nothing. Still too much value with deathrattle and corpses. I just concede every time they play that card on turn 3 or 4.
Insanely good nerfs, by the way I suggested this particular geol nerf a lot. It’s the most optimal.
ZEDDY YOU'RE CRAZY!! how on earth did u predict all nerfs to the T...??? Gnoll to 11, the bird recasts only 6 and above spell cost, and the location of DK upped by 1 cost!
not that hard
Well, looking forward to Mark making another Spectral Pillager OTK... he'll just have to use Silas Darkmoon to give the opponent a Soulbound Ashtongue.
The only acceptable Pillager OTK.
Or the whole combo but with Mayor Noggenfogger.
@@izaiahsundquist6877 That wouldn't work because says "to a minion". if it worked that way you could as well as cast Assassinate on a minion to kill your opponent.
@@locogato3488 oh I see, my bad
And this post-nerf OTK video is already out... th-cam.com/video/WfPmE4E_M7s/w-d-xo.html
Quarter on 2 or 3 is insane, people always underrate 1 mana cost changes. Think this balances it ok, maybe 4/4 if they changed anything else.
Fractured Spirits is actually a really fun buff, summoning two silenced copies was very awkward as we couldn't buff a big minion early and then clone it. I'm gonna retry Cube Priest in duels now :D
I think its important to celebrate just how elegant some of these nerfs are, and that it seems as though blizzard paid attention to our criticism! Ofcourse, they aren't always very good at listening, or quick to act, but thats why we should appreciate changes like this :)
I agree man it’s good to see them change things to make it more balanced in the meta
Hope they rework Pillager in the future. Since they're Warsong Commandering it with this change.
Would be nice if they changed it into something that actually has a reason to be used over the 1 mana pirate... Heck even just making it deal the damage to ALL enemy minions would be something (Not particularly useful for Wild Rogue but it would at least have a purpose)
Singe Target removal not useful enough for you?
The Card van still obliterate most Dragons when Played right, it just will take actual skill, rather than just luck of hand to win against your opponent now.
I wish we could choose hero powers in regular hearthstone like in Duels hehe
Bummed they didn’t change the Gnoll text so that it can still be played for cheap
I didn't know parrot only cared about base cost! I thought I'd had one reduced to 2 and it didn't work but clearly my memory is failing me again, thanks for this! :)
Seems like they also hit hard on Duels. I like the changes, but I’m sad that Greedy Gains DK wont be as strong as before, constantly getting 3/3’s on board and pressuring the opp
AMAZING wild changes I am finally really proud of balance team they did a good job.
I just hope they will continue to balance wild further for more enjoyable and healthier experience.
Next deck in queue for nerfs should be big priest, secret mage, mill druid, shudderwock. Do this and wild will be waaaaaaaaay better and fun mode to play in.
If you lose to Shudderwock you fully deserve that loss.
Shudderwock takes forever to setup right compared to pretty much all decks out there.
While you might be worried about the shudder dropping somewhere between turn 10-12, Rogue would have looooong killed you with Pillager...
@@paulrivieras9762 shudderwock himself is not a problem u dumbo, its murlocs combo Zeddy talked about it a lot of times and I fully agree.
@Paul Rivieras shudderwok is an auto-loss unless you are playing a considerably faster deck as they have plenty of hand disruption to stop you from comboing out before they do. It's also an extremely toxic play pattern. No. Shudderwok needs the nerf bat. Put that bastard to 10 mana and make his battlecry only copy a limited number of unique battlecries played by other cards.
Shudderwok may not be the best deck in legend but it's a nightmare across all lower/middle ranks.
The mill part of mill druid isn't really the problem. It's the ramp power that Druid has as a class. They need to do something about its ridiculous ramp power.
Wild Reno lock is definitely back on the map
I've actually left hs some time ago, waiting to return when gnoll rotates out after getting slapped by the colossal minion and other op stuff at a time when I just had to have the perfect answer or die.
But this is even better, love it.
The gnoll nerf hits evolve harder in wild because now instead of a 8/8 guaranteed your basically coin flipping between an 8/8 and a 4/5 with rush
Who Cares? Evolve shaman can go and get fucked lol
Zeddy always cant read
The nerf makes evolve shaman completetly unviable as you can't evolve into 10 drops anymore and will always get an 11 mana 5/4 after you evolve a 10 drop.
I think this was done to make sure Warrior is no longer the worst class. Evolve Shaman will drop to be a Tier 75 deck with a 4% winrate.
The cards didn't got translate to Brazilian Portuguese, so I open HS to check the changes and the only chance to Pillager was the cost to 5, i had a mini hearth attack
location too 4 mana is nice, but frostwyrm-fury was the worst offender i think, its impossible to win against frost dk with decks like pala, implock, hunter and board based stuff when u get freezed several rounds in a row and take insane dmg, I think its really supressing alot of board-decks
Not happy with the Cataclysm nerf. I don't like Disco Warlock but I also don't think that they should have axed the card because Mechathun Warlock got caught in the cross-fire.
And what about the rest of aggro in wild?
what about it? lol
I can confirm that wild quest mage reward spell doesn't work with Gray Sage Parrot anymore even after playing Kirin Tor Tricaster before using that reward spell.
To all my shaman enjoying brothers. Pack your bags and move to Wild, the water's fine hete, I strongly recommend Shudderwock Shaman.
Also why are we taking steps backwards when nerfing cards? Spectral pillager is now objectively worse than vinespine by almost every metric now. Surely there is a more interesting way to change the card than killing it entirely
I’m actually very surprised in a positive way. They really addressed all of the frustrating problem cards in both standard and wild. Who cares that they gutted some cards, they were toxic and super unhealthy for the game. I’m really happy with this patch.
Thanks zeddy almost watched Regis while waiting for your video.
I'm generally positive overall, and I still am happy they did this. But I just wish they had done more. Maybe some buffs? To your point this is the last patch before a lot of these cards rotate. Might as well have a month of crazy shenanigans to celebrate this year, I dunno
grease bot goes all the way back to how it was originally on four! playing with six-drop grease bot was fun but imo having it on four makes that build way more viable because you don't have to push to six to start scaling and you can now stabilize like three turns earlier. Interesting to see the stat buff is +2/+1 and not +1/+1 - i think that reflects an increased power level in battlegrounds, but i don't think that's really a bad thing.
I mean if George gets it he will be unbeatable
george needs it after gemsplitter left
Evolve Shaman is now more reliant on Tiny Toys + Infused Masque, and will now be permanently removing Gnoll, and possibly the piranhas, too. They'll now be using more token maker cards, slowing down the early game, but still having strong pop off turns in mid-to-late game. Not my playstyle, but I think some versions will still putter around after this nerf. Still gonna go to t3 probably, skipping t2 entirely. SUPER pleased with the Parrot change and Cataclysm change. Still gonna argue they need to buff Demolition Renovator to be cheaper and more usable against the popular locations.
EDIT: Update after patch: Frost Aggro DK is still bonkers, Frostwyrm Fury needs nerfed because it's fucking gross, and the Construct Quarter nerf is nice, but less impactful than we hoped. It's still a power player. At least Evolve Shaman is dead to rights.
where is fucking big priest nerf
Why it should be nerfed? Its a good and fun and interactive and healthy deck, not like any existing rogue deck.
Nooooo, they really killed meca'thun again :(
hasn't been doing well and this is a huge nerf to it, kinda weird how zeddy said "it can still do its thing" when itll cost u extra turns to empty ur hand while fatiguing
@@paarahful You realise he literally missed that change and only saw the cost nerf?
@@tekaru5625 not the first time, not the last
@@paarahful Haha, right.
Oh boy construct going to 4 mana is gonna be pretty good in even Knight I feel I can't wait to try it now that it got stronger
Oh no. Just realised they didn't nerf big priest. 😭
Pillager was given the Warsong treatment. That card will NEVER see play again. There is no reason to pick pillager over that 1 mana pirate that does the exact same thing but is far cheaper and tutorable.
Before the patch dropped I was like “Cataclysm will go to 6, I can still play it in my MechaThun Lock”, but wtf is this?
Mecha is absolutely dead but Reno will love this new card
Blizzard hates Shaman. Might as well get rid of the class
Ikr I feel like they could have made a different change idk
Not nerfing Starseeker is absurd. Elise dominates duels right now and is the most unfun deck to play against. Hooray for duels solitaire I guess.
Be Our Guest getting removed is pretty huge. It was such an unfun highroll treasure
What I will do with my Golden Quest mage...
This killed Evolve shaman instantly. Evolving a Gnoll 4 times just to get him to evolve into another Gnoll each time.. I mean whats is the point of using Gnoll now?
I hope blizzard prints some Mecha’thun support cards… they keep making fun decks then “unmaking” them
Thank God the parrot got nerfed with Quest Mage spell interaction…..Hooray!!
no more goldshire gnoll in evenlock damn
reading is not Zeddy's best friend again LUL
They need to nerf frostwyrm's fury, pisses me off so much every time it's used
I don't care about Fury being played for 7. The issue is when Blood plays it on turn 5 because Viser discovering cards outside their runes is cringe.
@@amethonys2798 the issue is when blood plays it ? rly ? how ? that decks is basicly control deck with 0 push potential.
Ive been begging for time warp nerfs.
Id rather they just remove shit like time warp and jade druid. And big priest.
Things that are just "repeat the same play over and over" are so poisonous to a fun wild meta
I'm in d5, actually play a lot and can not recall a single match where a shaman evolved a gnoll into something heavy. Maybe its just me, but i didnt see it as big as a threat. As for pillager rogue, its a salvation to see it destroyed, nothing feels more demoralizing as having full board control with 35 + hp, and going down to zero on turn 5-6, being unable to do anything. Thank for these changes
I'm really sad about the Cataclysm nerf. I had no trouble with Disco warlock at all, because I have an 80% winrate against it, but now Mecha'Thun is literally unplayable for Warlock, which is so stupid. And about the parrot being nerfed. I don't mind if a quest mage can get the combo off, the problem is when they get it off, so nerfing it to 8 mana would be a lot more fair imo, but instead they literally killed high synergy decks just because.
they nerfed decks with bad play patterns, playing time warp 40 times is not supposed to be possible, killing people from hand on turn 4-5-6 with pillager rogue is not supposed to be possible, one shotting people from hand with cataclysm on turn 4-5-6 is not supposed to happen, good riddance to them all. Sad that mechatun warlock get caught in the crossfire but it was already a bad deck so is it really that big of a deal?
stupid anecdotal comment here tbh
@@Maektar Up the costs for cataclysm, pillager. That makes them less viable but still playable. And the mage quest, if it's not repeatable what is the point of the deck really?
@@johantitulaer1052 time warp is supposed to be a really powerful one time use card to either outtempo or finish an enemy. being able to play 10+ turns in a row with the opponent watching has to be the most degenerate thing ive ever seen in hearthstone once the combo got rolling
I lost to them a lot, but since the matches were over very fast it didn't bother me. It wasn't like mage where they played solitaire for 15 minutes first.
Stay friends my salties.
I hope Zephrys will be easier to get because I have seriously counted the resources I need to craft the cards...
However after the count I have come to the conclusion that I don't need the diamond version 😂💎💎😂💎🤣
Thank God gnoll is dead and evolve shaman is dead. Im pleased with the slight nerf to construct quarter but I think making the rusher a 3/4 would've been better and I'm still gonna bitch about frostwyrms fury until it gets nerfed
Ah I can’t wait to play against exclusively even death knight in wild
What a time to be alive
This is possibly one of the worst and generally short sighted patch I’ve seen in a while. The devs have done preemptive nerfs during the last 2 patches but failed horribly to c the obvious meta to come. Who actually believes that evolve shaman/frost dk meta is genuinely worse than a scissors paper stone meta btw minelock/miracle rogue/bless priest? This in no way opened up the meta and even made recently made decks like quest astalor Druid virtually unplayable now
You kill a lot of players' cards because you're afraid of losing to those decks. You even murdered one of your best friend Theo's favorite decks.Bro I don't know how Canada convicts murder!
Imagine now every evolve of 10 drop is 5/4 rush xD wp blizzard. Shaman is now on the same road as warrior
if shaman is that bad because of one card change then that shows how big of a problem it was.
@@jodyboles8208 no it’s shows how overpowered other classes are that nerfing a single card will make evolve shaman unplayable
@@Cheesenem hahaha dude it has nothing to do with other classes if one card makes the deck way worse
Good, now they should nerf all the scam decks like big priest and big spell mage too
@@Cheesenem lol pea brain.
I hated mechathun warlock aswell so, it is a win win for me
Thank God now I don’t have to Insta leave when I see a mage play the quest
the gnoll nerve is but but for me its still the bad mistake in the evolve cards
evolve a 10 man into one that cost 1 or 2 MORE means in 11 or 12 not in another 10
if no valid "Target" exists than no evolve should be happen
Simple Thing^^
It was originally like that. It got removed because 0 mana minions were immune to evolve which was very exploitable by decks like inner fire priest.
Well, Paladin is gonna be the best deck now.
that's crazy I said exactly what they did would fix gnoll and they did it.
It still works with transmutation. I lost two games already with turn 5 thaddius🤦♂️
Zeddy was blacklisted for months and now he dictates Blizzard decision making.. Yikes
Killed my mechatun :(
I played wild today, and the druid on turn 6 already had 20 mana...
But now you can kill all his minions with new Pillager!
@@impkiller5932 Bbbbbbrookeeeen
@@Fentoscopique yea new era of control rogue should begin!
Haha everyone still complains about druid and his rampaging,however if you look at Diamond and legend - statistically, its right above warrior class. None of the druid decks are competitive in the current meta, so yeah you get 20 mana turn six, but that does nothing to be frank as it gets overwhelmed by the aggro.
Mmm, it pleases me to see solitaire mage suffer.
i wonder why they dont just go bananas when there is a month of hydra would be so fresh just to buff all weak cards and say fuk the meta for a brief while
Great. Now the mobile app is unstable... Again on Pixel 6/7
My Even warlock is dead 😭😭
The gnoll nerf is bullshit. Shaman is playable for first time in a year? nuke it from orbit. So tired of the devs
Not true, lmao. Control shaman was useful not a long time ago and murloc shaman has quite nice winrate, too.
Imagine how warriors feel...
@@tekaru5625 murloc shaman? are you serious? lmao.
Blizzard didn't think when they make new cards. And gnoll occasionally broke the game. Well Played.
Gnoll is basically banned, it can't be evolved into something else at 11 mana..
Welp, DK dominance incoming I guess
With how well ya read cards sometimes, I mistake ya for a yugioh player.
XDDD
Unholy dk here we go xD
LOL
I knew they would nerf Pillager to hit only minions. And people told me it couldn't happen cause it would be too similar to Prize Plunderer.
I expected them to just increase it's cost.
It's not nerf, its straight kill)
@@impkiller5932 Yes nerfs can kill cards, its nothing new, and Spectral Pillager totally deserved it
It's official: Blizzard should leave Wild alone!!!!
Why? Now when they killed all otks you can play your big priest and be happy.
bruh the fan base literally asked for these nerfs. you should be happy lol
Construct is still too overpowered
eh nah
The Parrot changes nothing.
As for Cataclysm, it's a nerf for discard, but a buff for anything else.
Quest mage will still live.
not really
Well, back to elek combo again for persons of culture
The game is D E A D
nah
I feel like an underlying problem that will need to be addressed is coin generation and how it interacts with other cards.
Quest Mage is a deck that doesn't even run random spells anymore because why on earth would you when Mailbox Dancer and such exist? Same for Pillager Rogue. Turns out shadowstepping Mailbox dancer with a spirit on board just gives you infinite mana and "cards played" to work with.
yeah i agree, at one point they will have to realise how op it is to generate that much mana, id put floop's glorious gloop in the same category, getting mana for free is a problem in wild
@@Maektar glorious floop used only in 1 niche deck. Other usually don't play that card, very rarely play.
@@Ikobot. I personally use it in almost every druid wild deck and so do lots of high legend decklists.
EVEN UNHOLY DK BUFF LETS GOOOOOOO
Meanwhile even dk
Hi zeddy
Just killed Disco warlock huh iight fuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuck
nice!
Gnoll still becomes thaddius with transmutation and construct still broken. Useless patch
Lol frost dk still the best deck this change dont move a needle for the deck
eh it makes it early game not as good at least