@@jaredruff9823 just think about Chris Pratt obsessing with over Jennifer Lawrence for years and then eventually dooming her to die on the ship with him. I think an interesting ending would involve Chris Pratt dying and leaving Jennifer Lawrence to be alone and fall into the same obsession over another passenger as he did.
This scene makes no sense. The Bartender is supposed to be "great at keeping secrets" and on top of that, his AI is intelligent enough to keep up with human conversation on a very high, spontaneous level, even when they're drunk. He should know plenty enough about humans to know what reaction this knowledge would cause in Aurora, on top of this being supposedly a secret. So why would he look forward to an occasion to talk to Aurora about it? Why would he take any small hint as a sure thing with something this serious? He's suddenly a simply machine who can't get a clue when the plot needs him to be. This movie is well written, but this scene needed a rewrite. That's not how Aurora should've learned. She either should've investigated and found out on her own, reporter style, or Jim should've told her in an emotional moment. This... this was weak.
I think another commenter sums this up. Since Jim said they had no secrets, the robot figured that Jim had told her about waking her in the first place. Thus deciding that he could talk about that without problems arising. As an Android he had other scenes where he could not comprehend certain circumstances and took things too literally, so this scene isn't too far-fetched I believe.
@@jarrodxc70 lol I know what the scene is trying to do, it's obvious. What I'm saying is - that's just weak. This AI was shown to be way more intelligent then that. "We have no secrets" is a very common and general expression and it came out of Aurora, who did not know about the secret in the first place, even a child would take a hint. Bartender should've investigated with Jim privately on another occasion after something this subtle concerning the very specific secret he was asked not to reveal. Not just throw everything out the window after double checking in a very vague manner with Jim... IN THE PRESENCE OF AURORA. Like I said, this AI was shown to be way better than this. They've missed an oportunity, they could have had Aurora showcase her reporting skills and investigate this on her own.
@@mitromney lol, he can't really do anything privately as he's stuck behind the bar. But I see your point. I'd say you could rationalize it by way of figuring that the Android is simply malfunctioning due to ship-wide issues. Plenty of loopholes though, I mean the ship is basically Titanic as the designers have no back-up systems for hibernation pods alone; not to mention myriad problems throughout the entire spaceship. Such as the other robots that malfunctioned throughout the film, the bartender is just another technical issue that's convenient for moving along the plot.
The way she finds out feels a little,,, forced lmao. Like I get Arthur's programming has been established throughout the movie but the idea he learns they "have no secrets" and then apropos of NOTHING just spills the beans? And they try to play it off like he doesn't know what he's doing, or maybe I'm just missing the intention of it, but it's sorta conflicting.
He clearly had every intention of doing so, probably because he feels the need to be loyal to every host equally. That's why he frees himself of any obligation towards Chris Pratt through a technicality.
If you don't like crowds, it would be a hell of a life. But I would have woken up a few more blondes and redheads. Is the food limited? I imagine they could probably go through it all in 50 years And the other passengers would starve on that remaining 4 month flight.
I love it that the bartender checks with Jim to see if he indeed has no more secrets and concludes he can talk about it.
This movie could have easily turned into a horror film
Why?
@@jaredruff9823 just think about Chris Pratt obsessing with over Jennifer Lawrence for years and then eventually dooming her to die on the ship with him. I think an interesting ending would involve Chris Pratt dying and leaving Jennifer Lawrence to be alone and fall into the same obsession over another passenger as he did.
@@guyinthewhiteT there is already a horror sci fi movie on that subject called Pandorum (2009)
original screenplay had the ship eject all the passengers and crew into space
@@toomanyaccounts Technically, the ship in Pandorum did eject everyone though. Just not into space.
Gee thanks Arthur.
Moral : never trust machines
Very underrated movie
I don't blame her for being upset, she has a right to be angry.
Well yeah he technically murdered her
@@jpblack2148 I think he saved her and murdered her. If he never did that she would’ve died anyway in the end. She had a choice to hibernate again
@@jpblack2148 Imprisoned her. Instead of living out her life on Homestead II she will be stuck on the ship and die there.
Hyvä elokuva 😊
This movie was a let down in the end, but it's a shame - scenes like this suggest what it could have been.
read the original screenplay. ending was quite different
Arthur would not be a good wingman.
Aroarer, definitely Jen gives me a roarer!
This scene makes no sense. The Bartender is supposed to be "great at keeping secrets" and on top of that, his AI is intelligent enough to keep up with human conversation on a very high, spontaneous level, even when they're drunk. He should know plenty enough about humans to know what reaction this knowledge would cause in Aurora, on top of this being supposedly a secret. So why would he look forward to an occasion to talk to Aurora about it? Why would he take any small hint as a sure thing with something this serious? He's suddenly a simply machine who can't get a clue when the plot needs him to be. This movie is well written, but this scene needed a rewrite. That's not how Aurora should've learned. She either should've investigated and found out on her own, reporter style, or Jim should've told her in an emotional moment. This... this was weak.
I think another commenter sums this up. Since Jim said they had no secrets, the robot figured that Jim had told her about waking her in the first place. Thus deciding that he could talk about that without problems arising. As an Android he had other scenes where he could not comprehend certain circumstances and took things too literally, so this scene isn't too far-fetched I believe.
@@jarrodxc70 lol I know what the scene is trying to do, it's obvious. What I'm saying is - that's just weak. This AI was shown to be way more intelligent then that. "We have no secrets" is a very common and general expression and it came out of Aurora, who did not know about the secret in the first place, even a child would take a hint. Bartender should've investigated with Jim privately on another occasion after something this subtle concerning the very specific secret he was asked not to reveal. Not just throw everything out the window after double checking in a very vague manner with Jim... IN THE PRESENCE OF AURORA. Like I said, this AI was shown to be way better than this. They've missed an oportunity, they could have had Aurora showcase her reporting skills and investigate this on her own.
@@mitromney lol, he can't really do anything privately as he's stuck behind the bar. But I see your point. I'd say you could rationalize it by way of figuring that the Android is simply malfunctioning due to ship-wide issues. Plenty of loopholes though, I mean the ship is basically Titanic as the designers have no back-up systems for hibernation pods alone; not to mention myriad problems throughout the entire spaceship. Such as the other robots that malfunctioned throughout the film, the bartender is just another technical issue that's convenient for moving along the plot.
You hit the nail on the head
You sir is the person who took a fiction as nonfiction 😂
Dumb AI 😂
Not really, if you thin about it.
The way she finds out feels a little,,, forced lmao. Like I get Arthur's programming has been established throughout the movie but the idea he learns they "have no secrets" and then apropos of NOTHING just spills the beans? And they try to play it off like he doesn't know what he's doing, or maybe I'm just missing the intention of it, but it's sorta conflicting.
Jim actually has to confirm first. That's why Arthur asked "Is that so?"
So he could have played it more carefully.
He clearly had every intention of doing so, probably because he feels the need to be loyal to every host equally. That's why he frees himself of any obligation towards Chris Pratt through a technicality.
If you don't like crowds, it would be a hell of a life. But I would have woken up a few more blondes and redheads. Is the food limited? I imagine they could probably go through it all in 50 years
And the other passengers would starve on that remaining 4 month flight.