Another excellent episode. Great discussion. One thing I would have liked to hear is the estimated cubic centimeter for brain size. I will look elsewhere for that, but I've got to say this was a great discussion. Many thanks.
Definitely one of the more interesting videos I have seen recently. So many questions! Are Human bones still being found? Do we know how deep the bones go? How long was the site used for? If this site was used as a “cemetery”, could the age distribution result from the exclusion of individuals of certain ages from the cemetery? Maybe young children and older people were put elsewhere. Especially if there are no children and infants at all. Benjamina’s medical condition is interesting, not only because it demonstrates that pre-Neanderthals cared for each other (we knew that already), but because it gives more reason to believe that this was normal. It is evidence that they didn’t not find it “prohibitively expensive”. These were hunter-gatherers whose descendants were apparently less fit than sapiens (they’re gone and we’re not, except they’re not really gone because we carry them within us), but they were still able to afford to care for community members who were less than “ideal”. This is especially important today when there are those who question whether we should (or “can afford to”) care for those we might consider “less” than ourselves. Apparently, a bunch of “subhuman” (sarcasm) cavemen were able to. If we can’t, what does that say about us?
If these skeletons appear morphologically similar to neanderthals but share more DNA characteristics with Denisons couldn't that just means that they all looked very similar?
The mitochondrial DNA was similar, which only means there has been connection through the mother line. Mitochondrial DNA is very different than nucleus DNA. It is part that one inherits only from the mother and is never mixed, it only mutates. The nucleus DNA, which is more illustrative, was more like neanderthal DNA. One Denisovan related ancestress of this specific individual many generations before could explain the similarities. Mitochondrion is specific part of the cell that is merely responsible of the cellular respiration and energy production. It is separate from the nucleus that is mainly responsible of everything else cell does and carries the DNA that gives us our specific features.
Just one horrible thought, to explain the mystery of why only Homo sapiens live today. What if we committed deliberate elimination of our perceived enemies? Anyone different from us? Since it seems to happen periodically in modern times. An ugly concept
Human warfare goes back to antiquity. Though we know there was some interbreeding, eliminating perceived threats and competition would seem like a rational interpretation to me at least.
This interview was wonderful! So fascinating! Thanks very much!
Another very interesting interview with Prof. Modesto-Mata. Please, keep updating us about Atapuerca, such a fascinating site.
Beautiful
fascinating
Thank you, Mark, for another fantastic interview with Mario Modesto-Mata! I love this topic!
I loved listening to Mario. He is so into it that he always sounds interesting. Thanks!
Great to see Mario again. 👍
Thanks Mario and Mark! ❤ I was so excited to see more about AtaPuerca!
Bravo! Thank you for yet another interview par excellent!
This is cool, my earliest mitochondrial ancestor is in there. Found out thanks to Yfull/nebula genomics genome sequencing
Thank you! This was an amazing talk and very informative…I want to know more!
Fascinating stories,very well told,thankyou
Another excellent episode. Great discussion. One thing I would have liked to hear is the estimated cubic centimeter for brain size. I will look elsewhere for that, but I've got to say this was a great discussion. Many thanks.
Hi -- it is 1100 cc for Miguelón (today's current worldwide average is 1,350 cc)
@@EvolutionSoup Thank you!
Highly interesting, subscribed.
Definitely one of the more interesting videos I have seen recently. So many questions!
Are Human bones still being found? Do we know how deep the bones go? How long was the site used for? If this site was used as a “cemetery”, could the age distribution result from the exclusion of individuals of certain ages from the cemetery? Maybe young children and older people were put elsewhere. Especially if there are no children and infants at all.
Benjamina’s medical condition is interesting, not only because it demonstrates that pre-Neanderthals cared for each other (we knew that already), but because it gives more reason to believe that this was normal. It is evidence that they didn’t not find it “prohibitively expensive”. These were hunter-gatherers whose descendants were apparently less fit than sapiens (they’re gone and we’re not, except they’re not really gone because we carry them within us), but they were still able to afford to care for community members who were less than “ideal”. This is especially important today when there are those who question whether we should (or “can afford to”) care for those we might consider “less” than ourselves. Apparently, a bunch of “subhuman” (sarcasm) cavemen were able to. If we can’t, what does that say about us?
Excellent.
Great interview about a fascinating site. I can't wait to use the "Chasm of Bones" as a location in my next Dungeons & Dragons campaign. :)
Perhaps the children and the very old people were buried in different locations in the cave complex?
They say that all of the bones of the bodies were represented but what about the hyoid?
Yes, at least two were found, that I know of.
@@EvolutionSoup Awesome, thank you! 😃
So who were they, and can you get DNA from these remains?
If these skeletons appear morphologically similar to neanderthals but share more DNA characteristics with Denisons couldn't that just means that they all looked very similar?
The mitochondrial DNA was similar, which only means there has been connection through the mother line. Mitochondrial DNA is very different than nucleus DNA. It is part that one inherits only from the mother and is never mixed, it only mutates. The nucleus DNA, which is more illustrative, was more like neanderthal DNA. One Denisovan related ancestress of this specific individual many generations before could explain the similarities.
Mitochondrion is specific part of the cell that is merely responsible of the cellular respiration and energy production. It is separate from the nucleus that is mainly responsible of everything else cell does and carries the DNA that gives us our specific features.
I thought that sima meant pit. 😮
It's closer to 'sinkhole' or 'chasm'. 'Pit' is often used as it is simpler.
Has anyone tried to obtain the bones given long ago as bride gifts? Families may still have them.
please get richard dawkins he is the most renowed evolutionary biologist
Just one horrible thought, to explain the mystery of why only Homo sapiens live today. What if we committed deliberate elimination of our perceived enemies? Anyone different from us? Since it seems to happen periodically in modern times. An ugly concept
Human warfare goes back to antiquity. Though we know there was some interbreeding, eliminating perceived threats and competition would seem like a rational interpretation to me at least.