I think I now understand why skating with just two wheels through grass may be preferable to three. With three wheels you have three surface areas that the grass is pushing back against which I would think would add to the sluggishness. Dirt and rocky surfaces don't have this quality obviously.
Yeah its actually on 3 wheels u have more friction points then 2 and if u have 3 the weight is shared with 3 put 2 is 2 points ow weight dristubiution i might be wrong
@@prismglider5922 You are right, the amount of surface is indeed not a factor in friction. So the friction amount caused by the ground on 2 and 3 wheels should be the same. However, skating in long grass also give friction at the side of the wheels caused by the grass. If there is an extra wheel to make contact with the grass, the friction will be higher. The question is, how big is the friction caused by grass from the side? I have no clue, so this might be negligible.
I have those exact same skates, same color! I completely agree, two wheels works when you are doing long and straight routes. I am looking to buy the Renegade 125 frame and try it on my boots :)
I really love your videos! It’s nice to see other men skating, and you have quite a diverse collection of what wheels you use. I would LOVE to see you revisit quad skates (with a good pair of outdoor wheels)
Thanks for sharing! I am used to freeskate in town and sometimes I would really like to spend some time offroad, but now I know not to spend my money on these ones :)
I'm beginning to really like the skate collection you have 😁. As for these skates, I can clearly see how you're quite quickly losing the momentum of your strides with 2 wheels. My bet is on a 3 wheel setup. Also, I'm thinking if there could be a urethane 125/150 mm wheel with a rubber outer layer. The idea I have is that maybe this way you'll have a harder wheel that will keep your momentum much better than the tyres. Also, the inner urethane could be very hard, like 90A and the outer urethane maybe softer around 80 to 82 A. Anywho, just an idea. Loved your clip!
I believe Powerslide make a 125 & 150 polyurethane wheel for the SUV frames. I've always wondered how they would ride with 2 rubber tires and a polyurethane wheel in the middle
Nice honest review thank you 🙏. Just looking at the way you were skating it shows your confidence with the skates and how easy it is to use. I think more development maybe needed for off road skates. Really looks fun and going out with a friend on the trail would be hilarious..
Thanks for the interesting insights. I've always wondered what 2x150mm might feel like. It seems hard to find a versatile setup for all offroad terrains, but your idea with the small middle wheel sounds promising.
I have the same Frame and didn't like the anti rocker feeling ... Still thinking of getting the 3x125 🙂 Great Video, I'm impressed by your level of fitness and yout enthusiasm! Cheers from Vienna, Lukas #Insane_Skating
Regarding having a smaller wheel in the middle: Since you mention having both the Imperial SUV 3x125mm and the Kaze SUV 3x150mm, substituting the middle wheels on the Kaze SUVs with 125mm wheels from the Imperial SUVs would provide a means of testing the configuration you're describing at 6:51 (150/125/150), yes? Though, such a configuration on the existing 3x150mm SUV frame would be anti-rockered by 12.5mm, which seems like it would be a bit much.
I agree that having the option of using a smaller middle tire/wheel in the frame would be welcome. Powerslide could even make it have adjustable rockering or height position like with their Nexus/Katana? Frames. You just flip the axle orientation to keep the wheel either the same or lower height. Otherwise, you need to lift your front wheels slightly in order to turn quickly on the back wheels. It is easier to do this on my custom pair as I have already elevated the "toes" of my boots with risers. This also allowed me to keep an oversized front wheel as close to my foot as possible.
Here you go...Not the exact pair... but similar...Let me know if this is what you are looking for... www.inlinewarehouse.com/All-Terrain_Skates/catpage-ALLT.html?ctype=AGGRO
Hey James, just found these skates and shortly after- your videos. Love the in depth reviews, you skating on the trials showed me exactly what I had a lot of questions about. My big question to you now is, I live up in Alaska with tons of trails of the same make up in terrain. That being packed rocks and dirt, grass, etc. My question is, how do you think these would do with short bits of up hill hiking? I have confidence they'll do amazing downhill, but how would you rate them in a zig-zag skating motion going up? Or even just to slowly climb or walk up? I grew up on roller blades and want to get back into it in general, but we gravel our roads, so sidewalks end up with quite a few pebbles around even after they run the street sweepers. Hope you see this, thanks again for your vids!
Have you tried the offroad 125mm wheels? I have powerslide tau90 with renegade 125mm suv wheels. I’m curious if you tried that tire size offroad yet? Thank you
He mentions at 9:17 that he has the Imperial SUVs with the 3x125mm configuration, and he reviews those in the other video: th-cam.com/video/j4Oq3v5-MuQ/w-d-xo.html
Thank you for posting this! This skate looks clumsy, and it's not you. When you tip a skate on edge it creates sidecut that allows for easier arcing. With only two wheels there isn't much of a profile... Will watch your other videos on the 3 tire skates. I'm looking for an off-road skate since moving to a more rural area.
In case someone does pass by me...just as a precaution...this nature trail is connected to a very widely used park that alot of people visit...I also wanted to prove that it is very possible to exercise with a mask...Thanks for commenting...🙂
@@jamesbond6687 It is nearly impossible to be contaminated by just passing by somebody contaminated and excreting. The amount of contaminant is too small to effectively start an infection. But ok I understand the good intent that you have.
@@iwillnevergetone5 alone in the forest ? a mask does not make him more or less safe. there is no sanitary risk related to SARS-CoV-2 when outside, in fresh and moving air, with sunlight and far away from anybody. There is also no risk of virus transmission when he passes by somebody. That is far too short closeness, and not close enough. I hear masks are political partisan thing in the usa, but I am not located there, I consider only the sanitary aspect. In such case it is useless.
@@olivierpercebois-garve5506 well look, all of us would love not even have to worry about the decision to wear or not wear, but the fact is- people are still sick, and dying. So the very least we can do is be considerate and try our best to not transmit even as asymptomatic carriers. it's a simple task to wear a mask. he's wearing one because he chooses to wear one, and that's good enough for me
Don’t need a mask outdoors 😷 I would think you need that pivot wheel in the middle. PS should make a stiffer frame & a lower, smaller middle tire. Why you wearing a mask in a forest bro?!
So…. Your skating is fine, but you definitely don’t understand what friction actually is making your comments sound absurd, and you’re wearing a mask while you’re alone in the woods --sheesh.
I think I now understand why skating with just two wheels through grass may be preferable to three. With three wheels you have three surface areas that the grass is pushing back against which I would think would add to the sluggishness. Dirt and rocky surfaces don't have this quality obviously.
Wow! I couldn't of explained it better....Exactly! 😀
Yeah its actually on 3 wheels u have more friction points then 2 and if u have 3 the weight is shared with 3 put 2 is 2 points ow weight dristubiution i might be wrong
@@vahtrapuu that isn't how friction works at all, friction would be the same with two wheels or three
@@prismglider5922 You are right, the amount of surface is indeed not a factor in friction. So the friction amount caused by the ground on 2 and 3 wheels should be the same. However, skating in long grass also give friction at the side of the wheels caused by the grass. If there is an extra wheel to make contact with the grass, the friction will be higher. The question is, how big is the friction caused by grass from the side? I have no clue, so this might be negligible.
I’ve always wanted off road skates, one day I’ll get them and do a video on it 😂
That would be awesome!!!😄
What up Squid. I had a vision of sk8ing these with a power kite 🪁 at Bolas Chica beach on Low Tide. It's a vision I had. ♥️
Nice objective review. Thanks.
Your welcome... Thank you for watching 🙂
Wearing a mask in the forest when you off road skating alone...... What is the point?
I have those exact same skates, same color! I completely agree, two wheels works when you are doing long and straight routes.
I am looking to buy the Renegade 125 frame and try it on my boots :)
I really love your videos! It’s nice to see other men skating, and you have quite a diverse collection of what wheels you use. I would LOVE to see you revisit quad skates (with a good pair of outdoor wheels)
Yes! What quad skate do you recommend...I do not have a good pair yet...
Thanks for sharing!
I am used to freeskate in town and sometimes I would really like to spend some time offroad, but now I know not to spend my money on these ones :)
Glad I could help...🙂
I'm beginning to really like the skate collection you have 😁. As for these skates, I can clearly see how you're quite quickly losing the momentum of your strides with 2 wheels. My bet is on a 3 wheel setup. Also, I'm thinking if there could be a urethane 125/150 mm wheel with a rubber outer layer. The idea I have is that maybe this way you'll have a harder wheel that will keep your momentum much better than the tyres. Also, the inner urethane could be very hard, like 90A and the outer urethane maybe softer around 80 to 82 A. Anywho, just an idea. Loved your clip!
I believe Powerslide make a 125 & 150 polyurethane wheel for the SUV frames. I've always wondered how they would ride with 2 rubber tires and a polyurethane wheel in the middle
Nice honest review thank you 🙏. Just looking at the way you were skating it shows your confidence with the skates and how easy it is to use. I think more development maybe needed for off road skates. Really looks fun and going out with a friend on the trail would be hilarious..
Oh yeah... it is a lot of fun... downhills are awesome...flat ground is a really good workout 💪and uphill is not so enjoyable but possible...
Thanks for the interesting insights. I've always wondered what 2x150mm might feel like. It seems hard to find a versatile setup for all offroad terrains, but your idea with the small middle wheel sounds promising.
Look at all that virus lurking in the trees! Damn nature trails. Bet he cant wait to get back to the city where its clean.
I have the same Frame and didn't like the anti rocker feeling ...
Still thinking of getting the 3x125 🙂
Great Video, I'm impressed by your level of fitness and yout enthusiasm!
Cheers from Vienna, Lukas
#Insane_Skating
Regarding having a smaller wheel in the middle: Since you mention having both the Imperial SUV 3x125mm and the Kaze SUV 3x150mm, substituting the middle wheels on the Kaze SUVs with 125mm wheels from the Imperial SUVs would provide a means of testing the configuration you're describing at 6:51 (150/125/150), yes?
Though, such a configuration on the existing 3x150mm SUV frame would be anti-rockered by 12.5mm, which seems like it would be a bit much.
I agree that having the option of using a smaller middle tire/wheel in the frame would be welcome. Powerslide could even make it have adjustable rockering or height position like with their Nexus/Katana? Frames. You just flip the axle orientation to keep the wheel either the same or lower height. Otherwise, you need to lift your front wheels slightly in order to turn quickly on the back wheels. It is easier to do this on my custom pair as I have already elevated the "toes" of my boots with risers. This also allowed me to keep an oversized front wheel as close to my foot as possible.
Any ideas where to find these? They seem to be out of stock every where?
Here you go...Not the exact pair... but similar...Let me know if this is what you are looking for... www.inlinewarehouse.com/All-Terrain_Skates/catpage-ALLT.html?ctype=AGGRO
Hey James, just found these skates and shortly after- your videos. Love the in depth reviews, you skating on the trials showed me exactly what I had a lot of questions about. My big question to you now is, I live up in Alaska with tons of trails of the same make up in terrain. That being packed rocks and dirt, grass, etc. My question is, how do you think these would do with short bits of up hill hiking? I have confidence they'll do amazing downhill, but how would you rate them in a zig-zag skating motion going up? Or even just to slowly climb or walk up? I grew up on roller blades and want to get back into it in general, but we gravel our roads, so sidewalks end up with quite a few pebbles around even after they run the street sweepers. Hope you see this, thanks again for your vids!
Bro..have u tried rocketing with 3 wheel frame whereby 125mm on the front and the other 2nd and 3rd wheel all 150mm?
Have you tried the offroad 125mm wheels? I have powerslide tau90 with renegade 125mm suv wheels. I’m curious if you tried that tire size offroad yet? Thank you
He mentions at 9:17 that he has the Imperial SUVs with the 3x125mm configuration, and he reviews those in the other video: th-cam.com/video/j4Oq3v5-MuQ/w-d-xo.html
lol, the mask outdoors :D
Thank you for posting this! This skate looks clumsy, and it's not you. When you tip a skate on edge it creates sidecut that allows for easier arcing. With only two wheels there isn't much of a profile... Will watch your other videos on the 3 tire skates. I'm looking for an off-road skate since moving to a more rural area.
I think these skates would do well in rain, and on dirt, snow hills, and grass hills… Maybe not uneven paths so much…. Maybe not stone or mud
Dude you eyes probably can see through the rinnegan
Im watching about those inliner in action but i saw here just a freak with a mask inside a forest..., this guy need more help than me.
why do you wear a mask when alone in the forest ?
In case someone does pass by me...just as a precaution...this nature trail is connected to a very widely used park that alot of people visit...I also wanted to prove that it is very possible to exercise with a mask...Thanks for commenting...🙂
@@jamesbond6687 It is nearly impossible to be contaminated by just passing by somebody contaminated and excreting. The amount of contaminant is too small to effectively start an infection. But ok I understand the good intent that you have.
@@olivierpercebois-garve5506 he's being safe. that's enough reason. we should all be doing the same.
@@iwillnevergetone5 alone in the forest ? a mask does not make him more or less safe. there is no sanitary risk related to SARS-CoV-2 when outside, in fresh and moving air, with sunlight and far away from anybody. There is also no risk of virus transmission when he passes by somebody. That is far too short closeness, and not close enough. I hear masks are political partisan thing in the usa, but I am not located there, I consider only the sanitary aspect. In such case it is useless.
@@olivierpercebois-garve5506 well look, all of us would love not even have to worry about the decision to wear or not wear, but the fact is- people are still sick, and dying. So the very least we can do is be considerate and try our best to not transmit even as asymptomatic carriers. it's a simple task to wear a mask. he's wearing one because he chooses to wear one, and that's good enough for me
Don’t need a mask outdoors 😷 I would think you need that pivot wheel in the middle. PS should make a stiffer frame & a lower, smaller middle tire. Why you wearing a mask in a forest bro?!
So…. Your skating is fine, but you definitely don’t understand what friction actually is making your comments sound absurd, and you’re wearing a mask while you’re alone in the woods --sheesh.
since you hate em can i buy them off you
whats your shoe size
nevermind i assume you just bought the frame by it self
ps your suppose to turn with only one wheel
Why the hell u wore a mask in a forest
Please do not wear a mask outdoors.
Why have you worn a mask in a forest?
Mask hysteria Good grief.