You guys this video is so valuable to us. Your Cassava experience was the same for us, but we found they are excellent support for everyone around them. The roots stay “respectful” lol…. Amazing video thanks guys!!! You are inspiration! ~Sara & Omar
thanks so much sara and omar! yeah cassava is amazing, i typically only grow it for biomass in my rows, but i wanted to try a food experiment. still gotta try to dig it haha! one day your system will be pumping out biomass too!
epic! glad youve already started! if we didnt have our naturalized trees our management would be closer to 15 hours total, which is totally do able for one person! as the system grows the time takes longer, but the intervals also spread out further. hopefully you can get a couple of people involved by the time it progresses that far. it definitely helps to have one cut and make a mess, while the other person does the organization. grinding by yourself is fun until it gets overwhelming! been there done that! maybe you can start up a group of practitioners working together at each site for work parties, or maybe youll tap into the knowledge and be able to share knowledge and people will want to come learn from you! all it takes is a well managed system to have people come want to get involved! best of luck!
thanks for letting us know you liked that section! seems people enjoyed it so we can make more content with that information for the future videos. no, we actually dont have a video talking about the zoomed out context. thats a great idea. we have been pondering making an into video to leave our homepage. so that information would be super valuable in there! but in brief, we have goals of small scale commercial production, sustenance production and education for our community. main crops are nut trees, mangoes, artocarpus, durian, oily fruits (safou, engkala, avocado, peach palm), langsat, pulasan and garcinias
one reason I haven’t managed my place this way is it puts the system as a whole above the importance of any individual tree, and I have so many one of a kind specimens I couldn’t put at risk. But I think if you don’t mind losing a few trees here and there you’ll wind up with a very healthy forest in the end.
yeah its all for the system as a whole. i can always cut it down again and plant new stuff, each time the fertility will be greater. losses along the way are normal, thats the reasoning to over plant and why im preferring to plant seeds as theyre more resilient to the dynamics. my goal with my 12 acre project was to build fertility for 3 years then bring in the desirable species. here we had more natural fertility to start with.
thanks for letting me know you appreciate the numbers section, seems people liked that, so we can give more information like this in later videos! good eyes noticing the ferns! they are wild/naturalized and im promoting them now, because they are going to be key players in making mulch for us in the future when it gets shady in there. ive noticed if you cut them too hard they die, so we only cut them sometimes. we also left them to shade some of our younger fruit trees that want some shade as they are just tiny seedlings. so we could go hard on our other biomass plants and leave the ferns to shade. in my opinion ferns are super important in these kinds of systems. some of our native ecosystems the only under story is ferns! so im trying to emulate what climax forests look like here
thanks for subscribing! the width of the original beds is about 2 feet, about 60cm. they have since grown due to the mulch on the sides of the row. the beds distance from one another tree to tree are 11.5 feet, just under 4 meters. we are tight on space so i went a little more narrow than i would have liked. for a solid commercial system i would go 15 feet, 5 meters between lines. then you could get good grass, easy to drop trees, and maybe even get a cassava crop down the middle of the inner rows!
yessir. thanks! i source my material from myself, except some of the tree seeds. ive been growing for almost 10 years here and have had multiple agroforestry projects to disperse and regain material from
How do you judge spacing for your trees? Like how far apart are your choice trees like the jackfeuut, avocado etc vs your support and biomass trees like your acacia and eucalyptus
great question! i like to keep it simple for efficiency and management purposes. our commercial crops are at normal monocrop spacing, then the other strata is fit within those boundaries. we are keeping our system on the smaller side, so our spacing is 30 feet, 10 meters for our high species. so our durians are that far from one another, then we have our medium in the middle of that, so at 15 feet, 5 meters, then our low between that at 7.5 feet, 2.5 meters. based on an alternating grid pattern. then from there we tuck biomass everywhere down the line. so we have a tree every 2.5 feet, or just under 1 meter. seeing my holes in the system now, i would plant a very fast growing eucalyptus at every tree hole down the line, every 2.5 feet or 1 meter, and as i have now keeping acacia every 3rd hole. just blindly trust planting a eucalyptus every 3 feet or meter down your line. thats the biggest mistake i made, was not doing that. ive been working with these systems over 6 years, and thats my biggest take away. in my next 3 rows, i will do just that. i thought my other timber species would grow faster, but theyre not. so if i had that fast eucaluptus over them, i could use that biomass till i remove the eucalyptus and my timber species are pumping biomass. you could always check out agroforestryx.com for their planning software, my mentor made that program, and i based my system off it, but added in more biomass species because of how degraded our site is.
lovely video. very inspiring. it would be even better 🙏 if you were a bit more clear about the plant species, because you're rambling over the names. the transcript is not helping, because it doesn't understand you either 😂. at 19:41: "....be planting in some more um pantis uh ..Barbados which is one of my favorite plants out here.... " I can't figure out to witch plant you are referring. it looks like a shrub/tree but a bit further you call it a succulent plant, which doesn't makes sense to me either. so what plant is it? cheers, Anton
haha! yeah i need to work on my ums and yeahs. i wish i knew how to do good closed captioning. ive tried before to do it line by line, but i just dont have that kind of energy. im sure theres an app or something that could help though. was hoping the auto titles would be better. itʻs plectranthus barbatus. its not a succulent, but has succulent plant material. its a shrub that grows to about 12 feet, or 4 meters. has medicinal properties, but ive never used it for that. i just use it for biomass and bringing in the pollinators
theres lots of people practicing syntropic agroforestry in mediterranean and temperate climates as well. you need to design the system differently with less strata density per row. but better to tap into those people as i only know my ecosystem
You guys this video is so valuable to us. Your Cassava experience was the same for us, but we found they are excellent support for everyone around them. The roots stay “respectful” lol….
Amazing video thanks guys!!! You are inspiration! ~Sara & Omar
thanks so much sara and omar! yeah cassava is amazing, i typically only grow it for biomass in my rows, but i wanted to try a food experiment. still gotta try to dig it haha! one day your system will be pumping out biomass too!
Loving the videos!
thanks so much! we really appreciate the kind words!
Looks great guys!
I am doing it on a quarter acre by myself but my system is young, hopefully by the time mine gets this much, I'll have more help.
epic! glad youve already started! if we didnt have our naturalized trees our management would be closer to 15 hours total, which is totally do able for one person! as the system grows the time takes longer, but the intervals also spread out further.
hopefully you can get a couple of people involved by the time it progresses that far. it definitely helps to have one cut and make a mess, while the other person does the organization. grinding by yourself is fun until it gets overwhelming! been there done that! maybe you can start up a group of practitioners working together at each site for work parties, or maybe youll tap into the knowledge and be able to share knowledge and people will want to come learn from you! all it takes is a well managed system to have people come want to get involved! best of luck!
I really appreciate the numbers section. Do you have a video where you talk about your goals for your crops and macro plan?
thanks for letting us know you liked that section! seems people enjoyed it so we can make more content with that information for the future videos.
no, we actually dont have a video talking about the zoomed out context. thats a great idea. we have been pondering making an into video to leave our homepage. so that information would be super valuable in there! but in brief, we have goals of small scale commercial production, sustenance production and education for our community. main crops are nut trees, mangoes, artocarpus, durian, oily fruits (safou, engkala, avocado, peach palm), langsat, pulasan and garcinias
@@tropicagroforestryspencerjulie Thank you for the info :)
one reason I haven’t managed my place this way is it puts the system as a whole above the importance of any individual tree, and I have so many one of a kind specimens I couldn’t put at risk. But I think if you don’t mind losing a few trees here and there you’ll wind up with a very healthy forest in the end.
yeah its all for the system as a whole. i can always cut it down again and plant new stuff, each time the fertility will be greater. losses along the way are normal, thats the reasoning to over plant and why im preferring to plant seeds as theyre more resilient to the dynamics. my goal with my 12 acre project was to build fertility for 3 years then bring in the desirable species. here we had more natural fertility to start with.
4:00 whoa jumpscare with the music audio so loud
sorry! i didnt notice on my end. youtube is a bit hard to work with on the music side
Thanks for the insight on the time required, really helpful. I noticed you didn't remove the fern on the tree line, what are their usage?
thanks for letting me know you appreciate the numbers section, seems people liked that, so we can give more information like this in later videos!
good eyes noticing the ferns! they are wild/naturalized and im promoting them now, because they are going to be key players in making mulch for us in the future when it gets shady in there. ive noticed if you cut them too hard they die, so we only cut them sometimes. we also left them to shade some of our younger fruit trees that want some shade as they are just tiny seedlings. so we could go hard on our other biomass plants and leave the ferns to shade. in my opinion ferns are super important in these kinds of systems. some of our native ecosystems the only under story is ferns! so im trying to emulate what climax forests look like here
New sub. What is the width of the beds and the distance between each?
thanks for subscribing! the width of the original beds is about 2 feet, about 60cm. they have since grown due to the mulch on the sides of the row. the beds distance from one another tree to tree are 11.5 feet, just under 4 meters. we are tight on space so i went a little more narrow than i would have liked.
for a solid commercial system i would go 15 feet, 5 meters between lines. then you could get good grass, easy to drop trees, and maybe even get a cassava crop down the middle of the inner rows!
Great job guys! Are you on the Big Island? I’m curious where you source your planting material. 🤙
yessir. thanks! i source my material from myself, except some of the tree seeds. ive been growing for almost 10 years here and have had multiple agroforestry projects to disperse and regain material from
@@tropicagroforestryspencerjulie very cool! 🤙
Did Jake Gyllenhall just learn me on Permaculture? Sweet 😋
lol heard that one many times...
Where’s this farm at? I love it.
appreciate it! weʻre in the pacific on an island. i like to keep it vague
@ I’m also in the Pacific on an island. 🤙🏽🌴🌤️
you can probably do something similar! unless youre in a really dry area. then different plants, but same style!
@@tropicagroforestryspencerjulie for sure. Bula!
How do you judge spacing for your trees? Like how far apart are your choice trees like the jackfeuut, avocado etc vs your support and biomass trees like your acacia and eucalyptus
great question! i like to keep it simple for efficiency and management purposes. our commercial crops are at normal monocrop spacing, then the other strata is fit within those boundaries. we are keeping our system on the smaller side, so our spacing is 30 feet, 10 meters for our high species. so our durians are that far from one another, then we have our medium in the middle of that, so at 15 feet, 5 meters, then our low between that at 7.5 feet, 2.5 meters. based on an alternating grid pattern. then from there we tuck biomass everywhere down the line. so we have a tree every 2.5 feet, or just under 1 meter.
seeing my holes in the system now, i would plant a very fast growing eucalyptus at every tree hole down the line, every 2.5 feet or 1 meter, and as i have now keeping acacia every 3rd hole.
just blindly trust planting a eucalyptus every 3 feet or meter down your line. thats the biggest mistake i made, was not doing that. ive been working with these systems over 6 years, and thats my biggest take away. in my next 3 rows, i will do just that. i thought my other timber species would grow faster, but theyre not. so if i had that fast eucaluptus over them, i could use that biomass till i remove the eucalyptus and my timber species are pumping biomass.
you could always check out agroforestryx.com for their planning software, my mentor made that program, and i based my system off it, but added in more biomass species because of how degraded our site is.
@tropicagroforestryspencerjulie thank you so much!! This is exactly the kind of answer and program ive been looking for!!!!
@@Yakocoki youre welcome!
@@tropicagroforestryspencerjulie did the cassava end up working the middle of the rows?
we still havent checked them out. been too busy to spend that time. but i still want to. maybe later this week
Cut Cut Cut is Key to Sunshine, YEA A
lovely video. very inspiring. it would be even better 🙏 if you were a bit more clear about the plant species, because you're rambling over the names. the transcript is not helping, because it doesn't understand you either 😂.
at 19:41: "....be planting in some more um pantis uh ..Barbados which is one of my favorite plants out here.... "
I can't figure out to witch plant you are referring. it looks like a shrub/tree but a bit further you call it a succulent plant, which doesn't makes sense to me either. so what plant is it?
cheers, Anton
haha! yeah i need to work on my ums and yeahs. i wish i knew how to do good closed captioning. ive tried before to do it line by line, but i just dont have that kind of energy. im sure theres an app or something that could help though. was hoping the auto titles would be better.
itʻs plectranthus barbatus. its not a succulent, but has succulent plant material. its a shrub that grows to about 12 feet, or 4 meters. has medicinal properties, but ive never used it for that. i just use it for biomass and bringing in the pollinators
Is this mid summer for you or early summer?
early winter
woo
This is imho rather suitable for regions with lot of sun, not really for regions with 4 seasons and insufficient sunlight for few months.
theres lots of people practicing syntropic agroforestry in mediterranean and temperate climates as well. you need to design the system differently with less strata density per row. but better to tap into those people as i only know my ecosystem
Lol so not true. Use native plants.
@@publicdomain3378 how will this help, when there is not enough of the sunlight?