CUTTING Smash Ultimate's Roster to 26 Characters.
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 24 ส.ค. 2023
- Smash Ultimate has a LOT of fighters...So why not cut the size down to the series' best game... MELEE!
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If a new Smash Bros game ever comes, the slogan should be "Everyone is CUT"
You didnt even consider lucas as echo :(
Edit: oh wait nvm (i didnt skip to the end)
This video has an amazing quality, keep the good work, man!
This video is really well made, it deserves more views.
A few ways to nerf Steve:
- Delete the weapon upgrade mechanic and keep him with iron sword because it's balanced but still strong enough
- Give a limitation of the blocks in his inventory per stock
- Give the elytra a damage limit
We keep his forward and downward specials 'cuz S tier
Amazing video homie, came out great looking!
The sheik god approves 👏🏻, thanks brother
If this game had a dlc pack of returning characters I’d add
King K Rool
Diddy Kong
Meta Knight
Banjo & Kazzoie
Mewtwo
Yoshi
Also I feel like Toon Link or Young Link should be a echo to Link.
Young link didn’t even cross my mind!
Def would have done toon link though since Melee already got a lot of echos but thank you for the comment!
Banjo deserves a spot over Steve imo
I like your list, but I’d remove Diddy Kong from it and add Ryu with Ken as a free echo. Capcom deserves it
No mega man is crazy.
I hate you, that King K Rool abuse at the start of the video is unacceptable😢
All jokes aside, this is a really good video, you earned a sub!
Hurt my heart to do it to him, but that up smash animation lent too well for utility 😔
No yoshi... No subscription 😢
Not my maim but keep it real bro.
I’m surprised you didn’t bring back Olimar and Shulk, since they are the first protagonists and main mascots for their major, ongoing Nintendo series. But this roster was tough to make with only 26 spots, and other characters were lucky to even come back as echoes or alts. I’m guessing if you did a video cutting the roster to Brawl’s numbers they would’ve returned
Seeing as there’s two more spaces for character icons on the Melee roster, if we ignore random, what two characters would you add there?
Excluding DLC and 3rd Party:
Mario, Donkey Kong, Link, Samus, Yoshi, Kirby, Fox, Pikachu, Luigi, Captain Falcon, Ness, Bowser, Peach, Zelda, Marth, Ganondorf, Mr. Game & Watch, Meta Knight, Pit, Wario, Ike, Olimar, Greninja, Shulk, Inkling, and Ridley
If I could add more characters, I would just add or retool Lucario, Diddy Kong, Robin, Shiek, Rosalina, Pokemon Trainer (or at least Charizard), King Dedede, and Palutena as DLC if I could and give them more interesting attack and abilities. They are all important and popular characters in their respective franchises and have unique tools for Smash Bros that can be developed and grow)
I love how almost every roster cutting video always keeps my two favorite characters (GNW & Steve) It's always a joy to see them survive the true warriors of Smash
Me waiting for him to say “And Wolf as one of Fox’s echo fighters”
12:06 Reigens theme here absolutely slaps and that alone deserves a sub, let alone the rest of the vid
Would you consider making a Smash 6 Roster with cuts based on your opinion along with who you think should be newcomers?
While I do disagree with some of your picks I can understand the great majority and respect them, the only one that feels out of place is Roy for Marth's echo over any of the Awakening characters. I'd make Chrom the Marth echo (although Lucina probably makes more sense then all the others since she IS Marth's closest Echo Fighter).
Roy was the original echo though with him having most of the same moves in almost all the games
@@gorillagamer6621 while I agree, that is another exemple of melee bias, and a weak exemple at that. Roy isn't close to the most noteworthy character (not in melee and not in FE). Awakening is problably the most important Fire Emblem game, as many people credit it with saving the franchise.
I think having Marth as a representative of the older Fire Emblem games and representing the original Fire Emblem rep in smash and another character that represents Awakening (one of the, if not the, most important FE game) and the newer FE games makes more sense then keeping Roy for basically "legacy in Smash" when Roy doesn't even have that much of a legacy by itself compared to other Smash veterans.
@@leonardoluiz7487roy is literally the closest character to an echo for him that isn’t just a gender swap which could just be an alt skin like they did with olimar and alph
Great video. I agree with your call for Steve.
-I am surprised/disappointed you did not mention giving Ganondorf a moveset canonical to Ocarina of Time when you are aware of updating Sonic’s kit (same for Samus, Donkey Kong, Mario, and Luigi). Then just make Black Shadow an echo for Falcon.
-what is the point of adding Wario if Waluigi is not also there? Now we still don’t get to do the Mario & Luigi vs Wario & Waluigi fight; I would have filled this slot with Snake because his series is iconic and he reps the tactical military genre.
-Marth and Roy are too basic, I would have put in Robin because of the much more unique moveset and Awakening saved the series.
-Isn’t Isabelle’s moveset different from Villagers’? I’d have chosen her.
-I would swap squirrel and ivysaur with Blastoise and Venusaur because that would be so cool to have all three of those legends. I would also put in Raichu (superior in design, speed, power, and abilities) and have Pikachu and Pichu just be skins.
-Mr. G & W is a great choice though I think Duck Hunt deserves it more partly because of moveset uniqueness and I’d give them a Banjo & Kazooie color swap as consolation for the fans sad about the bear and bird did not making it.
This video had nothing to do with adding characters so throwing Ganon’s moveset on a brand new Falcon clone wouldn’t be a reasonable talking point. Same point for Waluigi.
If we’re only keeping one FE character, it’s Marth. He is very much treated as the series mascot. That said I would argue only having one (two counting echoes) FE rep would be horribly underrepresenting the series, anyways.
Isabelle’s moveset is different from Villager, but not *THAT* different. Kinda in the same leage with making Luigi and echo.
Pokemon only repping Gen 1 (2 with echo) is my least favorite argument in this video. But also Squirtle and Ivysaur were picked for a reason, namely that it gave you more reasons to swap out. If they’re all heavy that removes one of Zard’s biggest strengths from the trio. Wouldn’t suggest it.
Duck Hunt already has a Banjo and Kazooie pallet swap and you cannot convince me otherwise.
Oh yeah you’re right Duck Hunt does have a B&K skin I forgot.
My reasoning for Black Shadow is because adding him would take almost zero development time aside from some quick voice acting changes and adding his skins to current Ganondorf.
Your argument in favor of keeping Squirtle and Ivysaur makes sense, it’s just that, man, Blastoise and Venusaur in Smash would be SO cool.
No Sora is unacceptable
And seeing shulk get cut here is unacceptable
You have kept Wario, you have my respect.
I think there’s an argument to be made that you should swap Ridley for hero, mainly because of how big dragon quest is in Japan and how much Nintendo has helped with dragon quest in Japan
I really like this video and agree with most of it!
also i love how for pacman there was no argument so you just said “its pacman.”
this roster is great, just add Pit over dedede and its set
No
Bro pit didn’t even deserve to be in smash to begin with
I hate that there is no Olimar
Tbh I think you did a really good job, I was honestly expecting to get really pissed, but you really did cut the roster down well. I also noticed something, by the time Brawl came around the Smash Roster already had the majority of essentials needed for a Nintendo Fighting Game so most fighters that were added after Melee were more like bonuses.
Really good video though! You just earned a sub my good man 👍
Classic Kirby for Kirbys echo fighter (because its Kirby) and Galacta Knight with Morpho Knight as a alt and his final smash would be very unique even if it is Morpho Knight which is my thought of idea
Gooigi not being here is a crime.
My Roster
01. Mario
02. Donkey Kong
03. Link
04. Samus
05. Yoshi
06. Kirby
07. Fox McCloud
08. Pikachu
01e. Luigi
09. Ness
10. Captain Falcon
06e. Jigglypuff
11. Peach
12. Bowser
13. Zelda
07e. Falco Lombardi
14. Marth
10e. Ganondorf
15. Mewtwo
16. Pit
17. Wario
18. Charizard
19. Sonic
20. King Dedede
21. Mega Man
22. PAC-MAN
23. Cloud
24. Inkling
25. Ridley
26. Steve
Yoshi be like😢😢😢
Where banjo kazooie do you forgot?
I would genuinely be pretty shocked to see Cloud return. I think Square was one of the hardest 3rd parties to get characters from and it’s wild to think we got so many characters from them in the first place.
Also, completely cutting Xenoblade from the roster? I just don’t see it. Though if we were only gonna get one and they were getting revealed tomorrow? I’d put money on Noah from XBC3.
But let’s be real, 26 is entirely to few characters for what the series has become. There’s no way that’d go over well. Too many far-too-important characters get cut. Too many far-too-important franchises get under represented. It was always impossible to make a truly satisfying roster with so few characters after Ultimate.
I thought that this was a pretty nice video, but then Daisy got added. Bruh
I did not realize this was a video about character importance, instead of uniqueness and balance in a fighting game, until like 5 minutes in. :/
I think its pretty reasonable to put Mario and Gaming's Icons over a Byleth or another character like that, it's like complaining that a Marvel game had the main Avengers cast over something like Howard the duck
Cutting shulk was a bad mistake in my opinion he is more deserving to be brought back than getting cut
Also whoever says no, go bother someone else you entitled Nintendo boomers and accept the fact that Xenoblade is a mainstay series
It's kind of hard for me to take a cut roster for Smash 6 seriously when deciding on who's likely gonna come back if Shulk and Xenoblade get removed. Xenoblade is an ongoing major IP for Nintendo now, and has been pushed pretty hard throughout the entire Switch era. It's very doubtful they'd want to remove Shulk and Xenoblade from the roster. Usually when Xenoblade is removed it's from older fans that don't seem to realize this, or they just don't like the series being active or something. I'm not referring to Balakay with his video though since this was more of a thought experiment and a Melee sized roster is very limiting
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14:43 problems here
Complaining about Miis is cringe.
Villager is HARDLY customizable and you have to unlock more customize options.
Why are you complaining about Miis taking up only THREE slots, when echo fighters and fire emblem characters exist. Plus that's not going to stop them from adding more characters.
we need corrin in da house
As a Xenoblade fan, this is just a typical day of being shafted. Good list still
Where is Sora?
Yeah I bet the next game will have like 40-45 veterans at least
You're a fool if you think they'd ever knock it down to Melee's roster size.
This very good 26 roster
Come on no among us!??!!???!? What a ripoff….
no way bro keeping earthbound over banjo-kazooie
Earthbound is so much more popular than banjo and always has been
14:41 actually that’s me right there
Same
7:23 this was hilarious btw
Third-party characters must've been cut instead.
Dedede could have been an echo fighter😢
For who he doesn’t have a close enough moveset to be a Kirby echo
@@gorillagamer6621 He could totally be a Kirby echo
@@Root4BeerFloats bro they have like 2 of the same moves and one of them doesn’t even work the same way plus they’re different sizes
I DONT CARE ABOUT YOUR OPINION IM JUST THANKFUL LUIGI MADE IT IN.
No little mac :(
I left when you didn't mention Mewtwo.
Steve and Sora instead of Peach and CF
Steve over sora
Ridley over Banjo
😢
Steve is a lot more important than Sora also there’s a low chance we even get sora back
Steve and Ridley. What a waste of 20 mins 😭😭😭😭
Nah Steve needs to stay
Robin, Corrin or Byleth over Roy anyday
No Capcom, Kidiciris, only 1 Microsoft, NO NEW CHARACTERS? Eh, its your roster not mine, I dont care. Fun watching others smash rosters.
Cut Sonic out he doesn’t belong to Nintendo
Neither does Steve, all the Pokémon, Cloud, or Pac-Man
Steve over Mega man
Even with just 26 characters that would be a perfect roster in my opinion, well done. Also well done on the graphics!
I love this video. Only change I woulda made is no 3rd party so more Nintendo franchises could be represented like Xenoblade and Pikmin
Yikes
cut little mac, immediate dislike for me
Thank goodness, no miis
Being honest, as much as Wario has his own games and I honestly like him, and with him having the same "issue" of Donkey Kong as being a Mario adjacent franchise, as well as Luigi and Daisy as Echos, it makes this game feel like there are an over saturation of Mario characters.
Sora, Bayoneta, Snake, Duck Hunt, Pit, Shulk or Joker, just to name a few, would feel like better picks. And even without picking a franchise that you didn't pick, I would pick a 3rd Pokemon character (Lucario or Greninja for a non Gen 1 rep) or a 2nd Fire Emblem Character (Robin if you wanto to be safe, or Byleth if you want to get controversial) over Wario on a roster of this size.
You can totally have Link and Zelda with no ganondorf. Heck, you don't even need Zelda. I don't really know the criteria for characters to get cut but 3 metroid characters (even if they count as 2) seems like a lot for a franchise that sells not that well. I'm not a pokemon fan but 5 pokemons and 1 not from gen 1. Who is a clone from Pikachu.
You could also cut Fox or Captain Falcon. If their relevance is smash is too big to ignore, why cut Meta Knight ?
Cloud is cool and all but apparently square enix is really not funny to deal with when it concerns this character. (Black mage for smash when ? He was in some kind of Mario sport game)
Dedede is cool and all but Pit is also (re)made by Sakurai, why not him ? It would represent one more franchise, with 33% of the games being good.
Also just add Chrome and Ike as Marth costumes. Just fill the costumes with alternate models.
I feel like some characters are clearly missing from this roster. Like megaman or Ryu. You could make one character a Mii with hundreds of costumes to reference other characters not in the roster.
Tldr I have bad taste and disagree with your personal opinion, good vid
You do have some good points in here but I think the Zelda characters can stay because they’ve been on Nintendo since the NES, and Pokémon takes 2 slots but it’s also a massive player in games and anime so it deserves it, meta knight doesn’t really need to be here he could just be a skin, and cloud has one of the most popular jrpgs ever and is massive in gaming, pit has 2 games and has been a thing since the nes he doesn’t really fit well, I do think mega man or ryu could work for dlc but they dont really fit with the roster size, then villager can replace the miis with costumes and outfits and also represent a popular franchise