@@ConorW02 Can we stop this notion that Mundo is a full on tank, he is a Juggernaut or at the very least a drain tank, since he doesn´t have actually hard CC. If Mundo doesn´t have dmg he is useless
The scourge of the world, the mighty chogath unleashed from the bowels of the void devours all in his path, not even the might of the strongest warriors of runeterra can staunch the flow of the voids corruption. Until suddenly a purple guy throws a butchers knife at him and saves the world
Ever since Mundo came to League, he's always been a Tank Killer lol, Mundo is Tank's worst nightmare. The fact that his Q can deal 500+ Magic Damage against a Tank with 200+ MR says a lot
And people wonder why "Oh this champion has built in Penetration, why get Whisper/Void?" Well it's for maximum efficiency in damage. If you had 1000 ad+ 0 Pen vs 200 AD + 90% pen your essentially doing the same or more damage against a high defense target. Get Yasuo Ult + Whisper / Teammate with Cleaver Armor shred, and you have him doing close to true damage.
@@kreeperkiller4423 right. But for Magic Pen is a different story since every value matters alot considering the new boots gives +10% on top of 18 or 19 if I remember?
@@NepNeppy Sorc Shoes are currently pretty valuable for burst mages since they give a relatively cheap way to access flat Magic Penetration and a couple of legendary items with it. However, AD assassins have access to serrated dirk and a bunch of legendary items with Lethality, so I don't think one class currently has a massive advantage over the other. With Season 2025 coming up though I could easily see burst mages having the upper hand if they get their tier 3 boots, but I could also see that manifest through them putting off void staff for another item since they already have enough %pen through the tier 3 boots.
Dude wtf, I was literally searching for this while playing Dr. Mundo in Aram yesterday. I managed to become a really good thank shredder. Then you just post this very very very niche “build” today, lol!
I can't see the actual use for this item long-term though, it's useful to take down high MR but fights nowadays pretty much any good damage AP user outside of Sylas is going to be dead before they even get to a higher MR shred than a Void Staff. MAYBE it could work with an Azir, AP Kog'Maw or Kai'Sa build, but I see it as just another item that produces funny numbers but outshone by other, more practical items.
an ap item with health, cdr and providing scaling ap pen for spamming your abilities? yeah i mean, this would be a terrible long term item on a champion like, say, vladimir. Lol
I remeber when on Season 1 i was building Ashe into 6warmogs. It was not stupid,just league was diff. It was funny to watch how 6warmogs knock 3x BT 3x PD enemy Ash
Hey vandiril i'm curious about something. I don't know if it's bugged or not but today i tried entering PBE to test out the new items and such... But during a match i entered... i couldn't find the new item and boots, didn't enter the new map, or even got the new runes in the tree... rather it is just like playing the 14.23 patch but it is written 14.24 at the bottom right. is this a bug on the PBE?? i play on the brazilian server btw
Estou na mesma situação queria testa o item novo mas n consigo entra no map novo, porem acho que a riot deve ter removido o mapa para fazer mudanças pq quando eles anunciaram o mapa eu consegui entra para joga um partida
@@nosleep268 and Blight stacks hit based on maximum health. 89% magic penetration for a champion dealing 50%+ maximum health damage at 800AP. This is wild.
ap mages complain for years about needing more pen to deal with how ridiculously tanky tanks get, so they make a new pen item. Now ap tanks can just go it and oneshot everyone. Joy. So much Joy
Maybe they were thinking that it might be too easily applied to multiple champs? Not sure since most BC users also have AoE abilities and I can’t see many mages building the Arena version of the item.
@empty3696 but this newer version sucks. It's hard to stack for most mages (if not completely impossibile for some of them) and it doesn't even give enough stats to justify it
Can anybody explain what the bug is? Like it is not multiplicatively or additive. It seems like some abilities proc it multiple times and it working multiplicatively or something? But no matter what I try I can not recreate the numbers wtf did riot do
AD % armor pen items: Still gives one of the highest values for AD items when compared to the strongest AD fighter items like Eclipse. AP % armor pen items: Gives literally half the value of the strongest AP item and also needs to stack its penetration to be as strong as AD's oh and its not even enough to make any difference.
Huh? Why are you commenting this on a video about a new item being bugged to give 88% pen instead of its intended 30? And why are you ignoring that Void Staff is one if the best pen items in the history of the game?
1. I'm commenting this in reference to the intended values, hence the comparison to the AD penetration items. And this is still a video on the new item, even if exploring its bugged variant. 2. Void Staff is "so good" that it hasn't been consistently standard build on any AP damage dealers since 2019. AP spell spammers like Ryze Cass and more prefer either utility items or one of the items with passive damage effects after their core build. Pure AP assassins have many damage options that are straight up better than the magic penetration, and AP bruisers/hybrids value either tank items or core AP items over it. Void Stuff has always been garbo compared to its AD counterparts and AP champions as a whole have suffered from shitty itemization for the entire existence of this game despite all the item reworks. Hell, this video showcases Mundo as a user of the new item because Mundo is the champ with the highest magical damage in the game for a single ability...and he's not even a mage.
Mundo has assembled the Infinity Toes gauntlet, soon he will consume half of all toes in the universe!
you should put a trigger warning for a flashbang to the past like that
magikarpusedfly mentioned!
real ones watched every actual champion spotlight
MajikarpUsedFly mentioned???
This comment makes me so happy
he goes where he pleases after all
Camille's Q does that without all that fancy mathematics xd
you aren't wrong LOL
no cause it's not %HP or am i mistaken ? it's just true dmg very different
@@MrPolisseI remember it converted divine sunderer to true damage, I wonder if it effects BoTRK
@@Teknospacepotato nope, only sheen
@@TeknospacepotatoIt works with bork, but its not too effective as her ult already has on hit current hp on hit
If I get hit by a 2k Q by Mundo in a real game, I am going to uninstall the game.
then dont play 10k hp tanks and youre fine
@@Salzui a full tank unit should not be capable of that in any case anyway.
@ConorW02 it. is. a. bug. of. the. item.
@@ConorW02Oh no a tank has a poke tank counter ability! How can we survive that?
@@ConorW02 Can we stop this notion that Mundo is a full on tank, he is a Juggernaut or at the very least a drain tank, since he doesn´t have actually hard CC. If Mundo doesn´t have dmg he is useless
Bigger size = easier target
his Q hitbox is whack anyways
The scourge of the world, the mighty chogath unleashed from the bowels of the void devours all in his path, not even the might of the strongest warriors of runeterra can staunch the flow of the voids corruption. Until suddenly a purple guy throws a butchers knife at him and saves the world
@Bublegor
Mundo goes where he pleases.
I could never imagine if you told me that in 2025 Dr.mundo would be a tank killer
u can do this if you build abyssal mask but not so strong
always has been
pretty sure Mundo's Q has been %current health magic damage for a really long time, even before the rework
@@kreeperkiller4423yeah it always was this way. Mundo has always been good against Tanks.
Ever since Mundo came to League, he's always been a Tank Killer lol, Mundo is Tank's worst nightmare.
The fact that his Q can deal 500+ Magic Damage against a Tank with 200+ MR says a lot
1:23 That’s Your Inihibitor has been destroyed
Cho'gath was the inhibitor
And people wonder why
"Oh this champion has built in Penetration, why get Whisper/Void?"
Well it's for maximum efficiency in damage. If you had 1000 ad+ 0 Pen vs 200 AD + 90% pen your essentially doing the same or more damage against a high defense target.
Get Yasuo Ult + Whisper / Teammate with Cleaver Armor shred, and you have him doing close to true damage.
idk bro im not a nerd i just go with the flow
it's much easier to actually reach the point of dealing true damage if you stack a combination of % pen and flat pen like lethality
@@kreeperkiller4423 right. But for Magic Pen is a different story since every value matters alot considering the new boots gives +10% on top of 18 or 19 if I remember?
@@NepNeppy Sorc Shoes are currently pretty valuable for burst mages since they give a relatively cheap way to access flat Magic Penetration and a couple of legendary items with it. However, AD assassins have access to serrated dirk and a bunch of legendary items with Lethality, so I don't think one class currently has a massive advantage over the other. With Season 2025 coming up though I could easily see burst mages having the upper hand if they get their tier 3 boots, but I could also see that manifest through them putting off void staff for another item since they already have enough %pen through the tier 3 boots.
Can't wait to see Mord with his extra 15% or Karthus' W removing 25%
yorick is gonna be a evil champion now LOL maidens gonna be busted and so is his e
@@bakuzma8233 that would depend on how People play him, for example you can freeze minions without letting him get ghouls and stuff
wait what? 89% of magic penetration? how tf this item works? It should be 30% of magic penetration, should't (5x6: 30)? I'm i missing something?
Mundo had void staff
It's bugged
It adds 30% pen six times, that's why it's 88%
@@JumalaPlayshuh? Wouldn’t that be 180? I’m confused
Multiplicative, not additive
you forgot Evelynn's E
Dude wtf, I was literally searching for this while playing Dr. Mundo in Aram yesterday. I managed to become a really good thank shredder. Then you just post this very very very niche “build” today, lol!
Mundo Q ability scaling is always something to keep in mind with the right circumstances - in Arena could literally one tap people with one cleaver xD
Mundo be like:
”I am a mage now. Look at my wand!” 🎉
@Vandiril Hol'up. Isn't Bloodletters supposed to only stack up to 30% pen?
that's the bug, mate
Should've tested this with Cho too and doing a deathmatch in the end.
Back in the day Vandiril, it was common for Mundos to purchase Scorcer Shoes just because of his early game Q damage.
good ol mp mundo. glad ur back
So 1stack = 5%, 2 stacks = 10%, 3 stacks = 19% and 39%, 4 stacks = 48% and 5 stacks = 67%, 76% and 88%? I see chatgpt had some difficulties that day.
when Mundo actually starts chopping off limbs
Can't imagine how much damage varus will deal 🥶🥶
try it with udyrs Q2
Man that sounds terrifying lol
Tetanus sure does hit hard these days...
5% Magic res shred by hit (stack 6 time)
"Yeah so if i stack 6 time it should be 30% mag res reduction ^^"
> jump to 5% to 88%
😳
The first Q is a mundo on our team while the strongest Q is enemy mundo
this was an arena build that was fun. full mpen and damage increase mundo
But the item says it can only stack 6 times? So 30% Magic Penetration should be the max you can get from that one item no?
People complained so much about this item and not gonna use it that Riot already glitched before it releases
ok but why do we reach 89% tho ? isn't 30% suppose to be the max amount with that item ?
What should ADC's do next season ...
This is cool and all, but have you seen Fiora slap people with a pool noodle? Yeah..
im glad they reduced vwits end's damage from 80 to 45 in one patch with 0 compensation to giving all mages camille Q (100% true damage conversion)
I can't see the actual use for this item long-term though, it's useful to take down high MR but fights nowadays pretty much any good damage AP user outside of Sylas is going to be dead before they even get to a higher MR shred than a Void Staff. MAYBE it could work with an Azir, AP Kog'Maw or Kai'Sa build, but I see it as just another item that produces funny numbers but outshone by other, more practical items.
This is insane yap to explain, incorrectly, that "88% pen is bad, actually."
Bro really said "other, more practical items" when the item in question turn your magic damage into true damage
@@chaotixthefox its not gonna be 88% pen for sure its bugged
an ap item with health, cdr and providing scaling ap pen for spamming your abilities?
yeah i mean, this would be a terrible long term item on a champion like, say, vladimir. Lol
@@highfivegooner It is bugged as hell on PBE rn, if they make it work on Malz I could definitely see it becoming a good item on him.
Wow, he did entire 20% damage more than with full tank build! Definitely broken.
I remeber when on Season 1 i was building Ashe into 6warmogs. It was not stupid,just league was diff.
It was funny to watch how 6warmogs knock 3x BT 3x PD enemy Ash
would spear of Shojin increase that more?
Unbalanced items, Champions with weird or very broken passives
Riot: Should we release more skins for Lux and Ezreal?
This is PBE..
This is the most troll build ever lmao tf are you on about. You aren’t doing shit with this build on mundo.
don't worry burst mage mundo doesn't exist
burst mage mundo:
Magic resist is STILL the most gold efficient stat in the game.
There was an arena build that can 100-0 people with one saw, after all.
Hey vandiril
i'm curious about something.
I don't know if it's bugged or not but today i tried entering PBE to test out the new items and such...
But during a match i entered... i couldn't find the new item and boots, didn't enter the new map, or even got the new runes in the tree... rather it is just like playing the 14.23 patch
but it is written 14.24 at the bottom right.
is this a bug on the PBE??
i play on the brazilian server btw
Estou na mesma situação queria testa o item novo mas n consigo entra no map novo, porem acho que a riot deve ter removido o mapa para fazer mudanças pq quando eles anunciaram o mapa eu consegui entra para joga um partida
@@Iasgo Ahhh ta
bom se for só pra mudanças então ta ok
they do rollback on patches to pulish them
@@dantepaz5028 ohh alright
thanks
We are not having void staff and bloodletters stack or we get 5ap comps every game and 0 tanks/bruisers will be playable
When urf comes this item will break league
why did i always think vandiril's name was vandrill this entire time.
glad this came out now and not when arena returns, i can't deal with more random partners going ap mundo and making us go last place...
İ cant wait 89% magic pen ap varus 😀
can he even stack it up?
@@averonisgaming9023 Varus W Passive deals magic damage on AA and Bloodletter's Curse requires magic damage to stack so why not?
@@nosleep268 i forgot about that, thanks
@@nosleep268 and Blight stacks hit based on maximum health. 89% magic penetration for a champion dealing 50%+ maximum health damage at 800AP. This is wild.
Thanks Vandril
Now I know that Cho'gath sucks at Mundo Dodgeball
Cho'gath feels so sad rn, brother gets to 10,000 hp just to get stat checked and deleted XD
Reminds me of arena mundo where you could twoshot everyone with proper augments
Gwen full build or 100% max health ult damage Tahm Kench would be funny to see against Cho Gath here
I want see interaction with Lulus passive
imagine if riot also added arena's perplexity item, cho would be one shotted lol
What if you add sejuani passive and trundle ult into the equation?
Mind you... this is a basically ability hitting this hard... and he's a TANK
It does current % HP damage, it does that much because he’s hitting a cho gath lol
205 years of game development and riots still don't know how to make 5%*6=30%
I think they shouldve slowed the item scaling so to stop tanks and non overtime champs from using it and getting full value
If this is not a bug then might as well be a tft only player for the rest of my life
MFW I've been calling you Vandril this entire time lmao :o
ap mages complain for years about needing more pen to deal with how ridiculously tanky tanks get, so they make a new pen item. Now ap tanks can just go it and oneshot everyone. Joy. So much Joy
you may want to try yorick with this since maiden stacks it herself and the 3% max health on autos
Idk what is happening to you guys but a lot of times my ingame client won't start.
Tank destroyer tank mundo, now mundo is a real tank that hunts other tanks, this is turning into warthunder
aight folks, time to play Pen Mundo in SoloQ
Meatball Cho is not the way, but Magic pen AP Cho is disgusting
Played full ap cdr mundo back in 2023 when mythic item was alive in aram and I did most dmg that game.
this item will be insane for zac
Bugs are just limited (or not) edition features.
Ive tried it but they changed it to reduce their Magic Resistance instead now?
But what if cho didn't have 200 MR and instead had it as little as possible?
I don't understand why they didn't just port the item from Arena? It was essentially just the AP Black Cleaver, and black cleaver is fine
Maybe they were thinking that it might be too easily applied to multiple champs? Not sure since most BC users also have AoE abilities and I can’t see many mages building the Arena version of the item.
@empty3696 but this newer version sucks. It's hard to stack for most mages (if not completely impossibile for some of them) and it doesn't even give enough stats to justify it
ok van someone tell me how to enter noxus map i was on pbe today and i had normal map
so what you are saying is, we should build ap mundo
Why not cutdown instead
AP Varus will destroy tanks even easier now
unfortunately mundo doesnt have any ap scaling but this is kinda like the m pen build for arena
what about Udyr isolated, Empowered Q?
Can anybody explain what the bug is? Like it is not multiplicatively or additive. It seems like some abilities proc it multiple times and it working multiplicatively or something? But no matter what I try I can not recreate the numbers wtf did riot do
How is this item calculating the penetration? I am confused
You should add another champ next to chogath with Abyssal mask
how come you're not using the multiplayer practice tool?
After the nerfs ap mundo will be in my rankeds
What about AP Varus
So, this is gonna be Riot's way to counter the tank meta?
ap varus with 88% magic pen?
what about teemo?
big math time 5%*6=88%
Mundo builds what he pleases
why does an item that should give 30% mpen give 89%?
so can mordekaiser go %100 m. pen?
im bringing this into ranked
new ap mundo looks fine for me
before it was burning them with W
now its look like it will be Q spam
why if this item getting 5 mag pen in stack max stacks 6, zigs and munde gets 88 mag pen?
Magic, makes no-sense to me
What about karthus ULT?
You should try with an ally having abyssal no ? : o
AD % armor pen items: Still gives one of the highest values for AD items when compared to the strongest AD fighter items like Eclipse.
AP % armor pen items: Gives literally half the value of the strongest AP item and also needs to stack its penetration to be as strong as AD's oh and its not even enough to make any difference.
Huh? Why are you commenting this on a video about a new item being bugged to give 88% pen instead of its intended 30?
And why are you ignoring that Void Staff is one if the best pen items in the history of the game?
1. I'm commenting this in reference to the intended values, hence the comparison to the AD penetration items. And this is still a video on the new item, even if exploring its bugged variant.
2. Void Staff is "so good" that it hasn't been consistently standard build on any AP damage dealers since 2019. AP spell spammers like Ryze Cass and more prefer either utility items or one of the items with passive damage effects after their core build. Pure AP assassins have many damage options that are straight up better than the magic penetration, and AP bruisers/hybrids value either tank items or core AP items over it.
Void Stuff has always been garbo compared to its AD counterparts and AP champions as a whole have suffered from shitty itemization for the entire existence of this game despite all the item reworks. Hell, this video showcases Mundo as a user of the new item because Mundo is the champ with the highest magical damage in the game for a single ability...and he's not even a mage.
Putting the bug side if this item isn't exclusive with void staff i quit
What about zac's W full AP?
another sad day for cho
Possible item for Morde?