Very low time frame to backdoor usually I am sure he just didnt check the whole minimap (he just saw no one in their base or near it and instantly tpd there)
That TF will be forever haunted by that outplay. That was absolutely villainous. Had to be feeling so smug and excited that he was about to pull a classic Twisted Fate moment and ults right into the waiting buzzsaw that was Talon lmao
@@TheKaratejesus it shows on... where? The talon could be anywhere, maybe right inside the bush next to him and he wouldn't know. It's easy to talk out of your ass when you're watching from the 3rd pov, just take the L dude lol
@maymaymyonmyon I'm not talking out of my ass, though I'm sure you'd like to believe I am. I'm rank 38 on TF and I peaked grandmaster, I know many TF otps that look at this clip and laugh. This is something you learn after trying it once and then never again. TF being meta rn means lots of inexperienced TF players are playing him. You can be challenger and play this champ at a challenger level if you're good at mages and mid lane (or top lane) and still make stupid mistakes like this due to inexperience. Most players don't realize that TF ulti is blocked by spell shields anyways. Any TF player worth his salt knows exactly where this talon will be. Challenger players won't often leave an open nexus vs TF, but I'd understand why you don't know that considering the things you say outing you as unskilled.
@@alexmatarratas2091 I have played since the beta and only really just realized that. I love little interaction stuff like that. Many people would go 'wtf why did it pop my shield?' but not realize WHY its a good thing
ad assass are not worth to play anymore because you can f up so easly. Ap control mages are 10x time more rewarding and easy to play. Its not even mathmatically correct whats harder to play is worth less and whats easyer to play is more rewarding. Like for example if you F up the Q ability in a all in fight with zed you literly do no damage. and thats what you need to master alot. while ap mages you can just spam abilities so often and if you run out of mana u can just tp back to lane. u can buy zhonias to doge all in potential of a assas so easly. i dont know man..
@@inksword6029 other assasins in late game are still decent, but Talon's late game just terrible, may be the worst in League, you must make enemy team ff15 or you gonna lose. Before, his early-midgame is good engouht to made up for the late game, but now with a bunch of overload champ and item system, he just falling behind. I guess that why he feels miserable to play, he really need a mini rework ngl.
TF ult breaking spellshield can be good for the TF too - not common but you could break it just before gold card lands on eg a sivir or nocturne (or any assassin walking around that has EoN active expecting it to be blocked)
This gameplay is crazy to learn from, not only to play Talon but to understand trading patterns, it's insane how he baits enemies using lvl up timers, how he knows perfectly his limits and how he chooses perfect opportunities to trade or all in agaisnt the opponent.
Watching Korean guys play League is like watching myself learning a whole new game even though I've been on since Beta. Fascinating to watch the metas shift and develop over there and how they play and understand things to such a fine degree.
My friend made me try League back then, I didnt like it, it was boring. I dropped it for a month then she asked me to play a game and I was like okayyy imma hop in. It was my 5th day of the log-in rewards. They gave me the option to grab one between 3 champs: Fizz, Ekko and The Blade's Shadow. 5 years later I have 1.5M as a Talon OTP, don't regret a sigle bit. :)
The flash E signiture is the most nische but yet flawless move. I call it the "honor farmer" since no one understands talon anyways and its the Chefs Kiss making u do "damn"
Things like that only a person that understands his champion perfectly mechanically can pull out, yes, everyone can do that F + E, but not everyone can do that in a real scenario where it is useful. Things like that is why i love mechanical champions, things like Yone Q3 into enemy + Flash side to animation cancel + Ult to guaranteed land it, or Akali inside passive auto + autoattack enemy + instantly flashes out to proc the passive auto.
Nice tip on 8:07, i had no idea that occurs. I thought my spell shield was randomly broken without taking certain skill dmg. The more you know. (I just noticed it was also a backdoor, look how much TF did to Nexus with just passive + auto + RFC)
The 1v3 at 6:30 was pretty sick, manage to get 1 kill and make it out alive. Also the TF ult interaction with Spell Shield I wasn't aware of but was still great plays.
You forgot to add level 4 recall trick that is widely used among talon mains. Basically talon can get to lane very fast by using his E ability so if you having trouble during laning phase you can all in your resourses (hp and mana) to push the wave at level 4, that will make you level 4.5 and then you recall. If made perfectly and enemy doesnt have strong shove potentional then you dont lose any cs since the next wave is cannon wave and enemy will not be able to push it very fast.
lol yea. But for real though, those were outplays. In those fights, the talon had to outplay them and commit everything (both sums). Panth & LB flash was down or they just didn't use it. The Talon had to work so much harder for those kills.
@@AM063094 Of course, I understand that Pantheon and Leblanc are very difficult opponents for Talon, and I can imagine that they were featured and commented on in the video because they turned those tough matchups around. However, watching the video after Talon's excellent outplaying, it was so surreal and funny that those were actually counters.
pantheon counters talon as his kit just deals more damage plus a defensive e. A good leblanc always win against talon until he gets fed in sidelanes then he can 1 shot talon.
@@mrmangbro6842it’s just tipical league ego bullshit that people spew because that’s what streamers say all the time. Yet most people saying this are like probably gold or something. E4 is already top 20% and D4 is like top 5%. Imagine being better that 95% of player base and being called low elo lmfao cringe ego shit.
happy to see talon still alive and dominating. i remember playing him when I was in college with my roommates and they were watching me play and beating everybody up, and that's how I got them to play league lol
His ult combo was the way I used to do talon combo before his rework. I just dont like the speed of talon but the new meta does allow for some newer things to try out.
man remember when his Q was separated to Q and E? Q was just an empowered auto + bleed (When bleed wasn't a mechanics it was just a physical DoT) W was faster it doesn't linger and returns immediately once thrown E is his targetted blink (really annoying and has less counterplay) that also does a mini-stun (99% slow) R is still R
Military service im pretty sure but he can’t even play LCK or in Korea anymore anyways. Hasn’t been able to for a very long time. He would have to be on a chinese team to play professional LoL again after his mandatory service. He only had a short stint as a pro to begin with. He had been playing on the super server for a long time after the bs drama.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman he was unbanned he just doesnt want to go pro since he makes more money streaming and its like 50 times less time and healt consuming
This feels like a nature documentary the way you say, "The Talon..." Also I feel like if these people didn't walk up to Talon auto range most of them wouldn't have died.
for those of you who were inspired by this video and want to play talon do not ignite during ult if you are looking to one shot. this will result in the blades coming back to you instead of going to your target.
Okay....Cool Talon and all, but I still don't get why you mentioned Dopa. Very clickbait title, could have just mentioned something about Talon and leave "Dopa" out of the title.
It`s Because Dopa always Ban Talon when he plays TF, i don't remember very well what he said but one part it was something like : how can i beat a champion that clears the wave on level 7?
Hmmm nice nice I always like this kind of videos bc I can apply it on wildrift I'm an ex-pc player but changed to mobile and like getting tips and tricks from your videos and use them but substituting some build runes that'll fit mobile version keep it up I like your vids😁
I wish talon didnt feel so clunky to play with all his bugs. I have a lot of talon experience and when you watch a really good talon you always think you can replicate but man hes not a smooth champion at all. Hopefully he gets a mini rework that helps in the future. One of my most played and all time fave champs
【 S13 Rank 1 Talon Zhami's Builds 】
www.deeplol.gg/summoner/kr/Talonking-zmi
isnt it s14 now
@@bajojajo7745he hit rank 1 in super server s13
last one was barely with huge help from sona and he had to flash to bush to not be AA really nice but barely :D
watching a good talon play actually feels like watching an assassin creed scene
7 years ago my son force me to try LOL...my first main was Talon...real assasins creed...
@@milanlazovic7292I wish you and your son well in life!
Also doesnt look easy, especially vs enemies with brain (master +).
@@milanlazovic7292 to milane sineee
TF using R1 and only see 4 enemies: Something's off.
TF using R2: No, this is fine.
Toji reference
Imaginary Technique: Edge of Night
Challenger macro friend. We don't get to question these
Very low time frame to backdoor usually I am sure he just didnt check the whole minimap (he just saw no one in their base or near it and instantly tpd there)
I had absolutely no clue the item worked that way for tf ult
That TF will be forever haunted by that outplay. That was absolutely villainous. Had to be feeling so smug and excited that he was about to pull a classic Twisted Fate moment and ults right into the waiting buzzsaw that was Talon lmao
He's simply inexperienced. Every good TF knows this interaction and would never make this play without knowing where talon is
@@TheKaratejesus inexperienced = high challenger korea
god how the yt commenters love to feel superior somehow
@caminhaodelixo2 being challenger doesn't mean you're experienced on every champ. This player is inexperienced on TF and it shows.
@@TheKaratejesus it shows on... where? The talon could be anywhere, maybe right inside the bush next to him and he wouldn't know. It's easy to talk out of your ass when you're watching from the 3rd pov, just take the L dude lol
@maymaymyonmyon I'm not talking out of my ass, though I'm sure you'd like to believe I am. I'm rank 38 on TF and I peaked grandmaster, I know many TF otps that look at this clip and laugh. This is something you learn after trying it once and then never again. TF being meta rn means lots of inexperienced TF players are playing him. You can be challenger and play this champ at a challenger level if you're good at mages and mid lane (or top lane) and still make stupid mistakes like this due to inexperience. Most players don't realize that TF ulti is blocked by spell shields anyways. Any TF player worth his salt knows exactly where this talon will be. Challenger players won't often leave an open nexus vs TF, but I'd understand why you don't know that considering the things you say outing you as unskilled.
had to like the video off of that Edge Of Night & TF interaction knowledge alone
Yeah, I never knew about that. It makes sense when I stop and think about it, but damn, that’s so cool.
and it also works with nocturne ult, you still see normally if you had a spellshield
@@alexmatarratas2091 I have played since the beta and only really just realized that. I love little interaction stuff like that. Many people would go 'wtf why did it pop my shield?' but not realize WHY its a good thing
Ngl i kinda forgot talon was still in the game
Because he feels miserable to play, he's a one trick only champion and all the one tricks hate it
@@inksword6029thats actually true
all the assass are in the same situation for more then 3 years now im not talking about ap version of assas just the ad assass im talking about
ad assass are not worth to play anymore because you can f up so easly. Ap control mages are 10x time more rewarding and easy to play. Its not even mathmatically correct whats harder to play is worth less and whats easyer to play is more rewarding. Like for example if you F up the Q ability in a all in fight with zed you literly do no damage. and thats what you need to master alot. while ap mages you can just spam abilities so often and if you run out of mana u can just tp back to lane. u can buy zhonias to doge all in potential of a assas so easly. i dont know man..
@@inksword6029 other assasins in late game are still decent, but Talon's late game just terrible, may be the worst in League, you must make enemy team ff15 or you gonna lose. Before, his early-midgame is good engouht to made up for the late game, but now with a bunch of overload champ and item system, he just falling behind. I guess that why he feels miserable to play, he really need a mini rework ngl.
08:07 that was a lore accurate talon if i ever seen one
TF ult breaking spellshield can be good for the TF too - not common but you could break it just before gold card lands on eg a sivir or nocturne (or any assassin walking around that has EoN active expecting it to be blocked)
You know exactly !!
good tip
You gave me a good strategy for TF adc.
Now my 15lp teammates can parkour down the rift to int me in style! Thanks Dobby! (Love the videos)
hope he talon e window irl)
It also stops nocturne's R
@@vh5360 You may expect him to E to your mom's window lol, just watch out for his "SWORD" xD
You're welcome! -signed 15lp Teammate
This gameplay is crazy to learn from, not only to play Talon but to understand trading patterns, it's insane how he baits enemies using lvl up timers, how he knows perfectly his limits and how he chooses perfect opportunities to trade or all in agaisnt the opponent.
Watching Korean guys play League is like watching myself learning a whole new game even though I've been on since Beta. Fascinating to watch the metas shift and develop over there and how they play and understand things to such a fine degree.
My friend made me try League back then, I didnt like it, it was boring. I dropped it for a month then she asked me to play a game and I was like okayyy imma hop in. It was my 5th day of the log-in rewards. They gave me the option to grab one between 3 champs: Fizz, Ekko and The Blade's Shadow. 5 years later I have 1.5M as a Talon OTP, don't regret a sigle bit. :)
The flash E signiture is the most nische but yet flawless move. I call it the "honor farmer" since no one understands talon anyways and its the Chefs Kiss making u do "damn"
Things like that only a person that understands his champion perfectly mechanically can pull out, yes, everyone can do that F + E, but not everyone can do that in a real scenario where it is useful.
Things like that is why i love mechanical champions, things like Yone Q3 into enemy + Flash side to animation cancel + Ult to guaranteed land it, or Akali inside passive auto + autoattack enemy + instantly flashes out to proc the passive auto.
was a pleasure to watch.
Nice tip on 8:07, i had no idea that occurs. I thought my spell shield was randomly broken without taking certain skill dmg. The more you know.
(I just noticed it was also a backdoor, look how much TF did to Nexus with just passive + auto + RFC)
The 1v3 at 6:30 was pretty sick, manage to get 1 kill and make it out alive.
Also the TF ult interaction with Spell Shield I wasn't aware of but was still great plays.
the 1v3 play looks from anime
i expected him to kill one of them and crash the wave or smth like that, never expected that annihilation
You forgot to add level 4 recall trick that is widely used among talon mains. Basically talon can get to lane very fast by using his E ability so if you having trouble during laning phase you can all in your resourses (hp and mana) to push the wave at level 4, that will make you level 4.5 and then you recall. If made perfectly and enemy doesnt have strong shove potentional then you dont lose any cs since the next wave is cannon wave and enemy will not be able to push it very fast.
thx for the tricks brow do you manage to get a long sword when you back lvl 4 ?
@@lelibrepanzer4913 yes pretty much always, you should have at least 20 cs by then right? With passive gold income it is enough
Unless you farm like a noob, you should have enough for two long swords at least@@lelibrepanzer4913
@@lelibrepanzer4913 How do you manage not to get longsword by lvl 4. Thats like 4 waves or so, more than enough for LS
Explanation at the end of the video: Leblanc and Pantheon counter.
Talon in video: kills Leblanc and Pantheon alone.
Refuses to elaborate further.
lol yea. But for real though, those were outplays. In those fights, the talon had to outplay them and commit everything (both sums). Panth & LB flash was down or they just didn't use it. The Talon had to work so much harder for those kills.
@@AM063094 Of course, I understand that Pantheon and Leblanc are very difficult opponents for Talon, and I can imagine that they were featured and commented on in the video because they turned those tough matchups around.
However, watching the video after Talon's excellent outplaying, it was so surreal and funny that those were actually counters.
pantheon counters talon as his kit just deals more damage plus a defensive e. A good leblanc always win against talon until he gets fed in sidelanes then he can 1 shot talon.
@@いあ-l7i5f just like how Leblanc counter Swain in early game, although both are on the same side (in lore) and both have tactical brain lol
8:25 korean grandmaster le blanc btw
d4 elo, every time i have a talon in my team i dodge now, it's been auto lose every single game. im amazed someone is managing to do something with it
Real
its because d4 is low elo
@@allen0neil142 top 4% is low is crazy. Top 4% in any other game people realize is actually good lol
@@mrmangbro6842it’s just tipical league ego bullshit that people spew because that’s what streamers say all the time. Yet most people saying this are like probably gold or something. E4 is already top 20% and D4 is like top 5%. Imagine being better that 95% of player base and being called low elo lmfao cringe ego shit.
@@Intoxicated4768 I'm d4 1lp iirc and I'm top 3.7% even when I was masters in season 10 it was "low elo" even though it was top .1% lol.
4:39 is an absolutely unbelievable play
happy to see talon still alive and dominating. i remember playing him when I was in college with my roommates and they were watching me play and beating everybody up, and that's how I got them to play league lol
superb player and highlights+breakdown to go along with it. this guy is a real star case!
That Aatrox predicting at the end was amazing.
What happened at 4:10? Seemed like Galio had plenty of HP left just for last ticks of ignite to kill no?
Passive bleeding & ignite
Holyshit I never knew edge of night counted tf ult vision as something to block…
ok but 3:00 insaneeeeeeeeeee
If you never ever did that you’re bad asf he even flashed early
That outplay on TF is next level, really shows how deeply top tier players understand the game
"No room for harras"
"Kill the enemy if they try to stop him"
Sounds like the ultimate anti-bullying guide
6:30 "you are locked in here with me"
This channel really made me a better player because I feel like the range of what I pick In summoners rift has gotten further
It's so fitting that an item called Edge of Night can prevent being revealed.
I am vengence. I am the night. I am Talon.
if you look at edge of nights icon you will notice that it actually is talon's cloak so yes very fitting for talon, the blade's shadow
Close enough, welcome back Yamikaze
talon using cold blooded pro to block twisted fate UAV
watching a good talon play actually feels like watching an assassin creed scene
His ult combo was the way I used to do talon combo before his rework. I just dont like the speed of talon but the new meta does allow for some newer things to try out.
my glorious king, I'll never regret maining him
impeccable use of P made all the difference
Assassin mains want to be him but cry when they say the burst isn't enough
man remember when his Q was separated to Q and E?
Q was just an empowered auto + bleed (When bleed wasn't a mechanics it was just a physical DoT)
W was faster it doesn't linger and returns immediately once thrown
E is his targetted blink (really annoying and has less counterplay) that also does a mini-stun (99% slow)
R is still R
the e also silenced back then :D
it was a mini root + silence, im fairly certain
@@maikwokwik9739 yea ur right.
Good to see he's still fun. Haven't played in a year.
Your thumbnails are getting better !!!
would love to see you showcase some adc cuz every match has always been jinx, jhin and caitlyn this season
Didnt Dopa retire?
Military service im pretty sure but he can’t even play LCK or in Korea anymore anyways. Hasn’t been able to for a very long time.
He would have to be on a chinese team to play professional LoL again after his mandatory service. He only had a short stint as a pro to begin with. He had been playing on the super server for a long time after the bs drama.
@@FormerGovernmentHuman he was unbanned he just doesnt want to go pro since he makes more money streaming and its like 50 times less time and healt consuming
@@FormerGovernmentHuman Prozzz
They were talking about making Talon Q scale with atk speed, is that in PBE or is that already in?
its already in its just quality of life change it feels so much better
@inksword6029 cool ty, I've been wanting to go back to trying Talon and see how this change feels
@@Braxtonkai it feels great trust, you can go for WR aaQaa wayy more often and passive procs properly and its so quick
Amazing vid (watched in x12 speed!!)
Indeed amazing, and what a crisp sound! (watched in x30 speed!!)
Does the skin has any trick? I know OTPs love skins with tricks
This one just for style. The bloodmoon skin has visual indicative passive makes you see which enemy has how many passive marks easier
blood moon is a pay2lose tbh, high noon W is thinner and enduring sword W animation makes pixel perfect plays easier
With electrocute is it Sudden impact, Eyeball Collector, and Ultimate Hunter? Or would it be preferable to go Treasure Hunter instead?
Both are decent
sudden impact is trash, id take taste of blood imo
@@tomaskubanek4290 sudden impact is one of the best runes right now you’re tripping
Ultimate hunter since talon is very reliant on ult
@@tomaskubanek4290sudden impact does as much dmg as electrocute lmao
This feels like a nature documentary the way you say, "The Talon..."
Also I feel like if these people didn't walk up to Talon auto range most of them wouldn't have died.
for those of you who were inspired by this video and want to play talon do not ignite during ult if you are looking to one shot. this will result in the blades coming back to you instead of going to your target.
Thank you for sharing ! how you see the game in super server please ?
2:20 typical jungler oblivous to the fight to death at mid xD
Lmao, thank you, probably my favorite lowlight
why is there a 15/0/8 TF in this first clip on talons team lmao 0:15
my talon cant jump over the wall correctly
Talon with Profane Hydra is a match made in heaven
Alright time to go and show my team the terrorist talon pick!
Is dopa back? Where does he stream?
lmaoooo the songs, nostalgia hits hard
The EoN tech with tf ult was fucking sick
NGL. I definitely TF ultwd into that talon and then said "wtf, of course I ult right into him walking back from base."
Never knew EoN can block TF vision, that's nice
Fiora support player on NA called Doctor Ricky
wait so ulti gives 2 passive stacks??
R1 and R2 just like W
Is dopa still straming? where does he stream in?
We need a video about the new volibear with Navori
that would be boring to watch lol
You can cancel tf vision with a spell shield, there is still something to learn in this game
I always ban Kayn, I dont want to have him in my team nor enemy team. 3 years of banning kayn ONLY. Every single game. Disgusting champion.
so I think this only works because talon has so much movement speed this season. he can be anywhere and make any angle
watching porn: 😴💤
watching high elo Talon gameplay: 🥵🥵
Okay....Cool Talon and all, but I still don't get why you mentioned Dopa. Very clickbait title, could have just mentioned something about Talon and leave "Dopa" out of the title.
It`s Because Dopa always Ban Talon when he plays TF, i don't remember very well what he said but one part it was something like : how can i beat a champion that clears the wave on level 7?
In most clips you showed he was using electrocute instead of conqueror
can you update your qiyana video? i think we need new tutorial
does anyone there remember talon exp runepage? good old days
this guy is just really good could probly do this with any champ he just picked talon
No way. Talon mid in season 14??? I can't believe it. That champ is soooo useless outside jungle.
I mean its a leblanc. She deserves it in that first clip.
U must do a film about master Crit Sylas with protobelt Essense and IE
i just noticed the last video made in this channel about a botlaner was 4 months ago when smolder was relatively new... any chance for some adc ?
Whenever I see talon it's always reminds me of yamikaze's last game play
what skin is that on the thumbnail
TFs ult is countered by spellshields? That is some knowledge
Play talon is aid rn , you cant win early vs most champ and your late game is miserable.
Skill issue, I'm afraid m8.
Try get fed early and then not do any damage later in the game
@@TeaYenSvg lets show our opgg huh
Still waiting for the video on Soodangkim !
In the right hands all champs are insane 😎😎😎💪💪💪💪
i didn't know lol could be this technical. dota 2 player btw ancient 5 peak which is 4.6k mmr
Lmao tf's vision being blocked by a spellshield seems so off.
Hmmm nice nice I always like this kind of videos bc I can apply it on wildrift I'm an ex-pc player but changed to mobile and like getting tips and tricks from your videos and use them but substituting some build runes that'll fit mobile version keep it up I like your vids😁
This kind of Talon would tilt anyone to the ground...
TF suffered psychologic damage after that play
Imagine a competitive league without bans so otp could play their champs
is this yedaoshen?
zhami
my goodness the skill is actually scary
8:26 I instantly stopped the video after I saw that LB W, it's just disgusting.
Dobby you only seek for rank 1 korean? because i follow the rank 1 talon CH who is Yedaoshen and he is a monster as well
I wish talon didnt feel so clunky to play with all his bugs. I have a lot of talon experience and when you watch a really good talon you always think you can replicate but man hes not a smooth champion at all. Hopefully he gets a mini rework that helps in the future. One of my most played and all time fave champs
All champs are viable. Depends HOW you play BUT that narrows down tactics 😊
not sure why i do no damage when playing talon
You can be as fed as youd like then at 15 minutes in the game you dont do any damage anymore
"Just harass him, he's melee"
Hence the 3 talons I farmed today. It was again dobby strikikg haha
ah the no cooldown wall hops what will riot think of next