It always blows my mind that as soon as parts go in an ugly office PC green puke motherboard people seem to think it's worthless. The ryzen chip is worth the cost by itself and you got bonus parts with that. Nice find.
Sorry for replying to an old comment, but there's actually a catch there sometimes. Some of these chips are vendor-locked. They can't go to a board from a different manufacturer. Obviously not all of them, but it's better to check around before you buy parts coming from one of these ex-enterprise prebuilts. That said, most people simply buy the whole PC, so I guess it's fine. Another problem would be the limited space for add-ons (like a graphics card) and the similarly limited PSU. 210W is actually pretty decent for a prebuilt this size. HP's SFF prebuilt come with a mere 180W PSU. So you do have to get a little creative there.
I "rejuvenated" a little Dell SFF tower recently, they *really* engineer this stuff to task and the specs are all lopsided. Was fun to see it actually play games at decent speed tho. It's gonna be an emulation box for me eventually.
I have the same model and did the same modding as your s. Only difference is I had the Ryzen 2400G with Vega 11 Graphics and had a Samsung NVME SSD and a 2.5" 512GB HD. I added in the RX 6400. I upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 3400G (so that I can use Winodws 11) which I got from my daughter's PC since she upgraded to a 3600X. I also upgraded the RAM to 16GB. Plus swapped out the 2.5 GB 512HD with a 1TB SATA SSD that I used on an old laptop that sadly died and was unrepairable. All in all was a fun project for my personal low end gaming rig for Diablo and Starcraft.
Great video, I like that you show the full process, including the pre upgrade performance and the case mod. Don't worry about the FPS jump in the tomb raider, it always jumps at the start of that scene and then drops as the scene moves down to the village. The stuttering in fortnite is because you have become CPU bottlenecked. Ideally you could upgrade the CPU to a slightly newer 6 core however that would require some research to ensure that the OEM bios will support what ever CPU you want to put in. I would leave it as it is, as it's a greater starter gaming pc.
Pls give me a Lenovo think center mini desktop featuring intel core I9 14th gen CPU. it will mean alot for me, bcz presently i cant afford one like this. if you want to send i will give my addrress . advance love from Bangladesh.
Thanks for the great video. I just ordered one of these computers (3700X). I am going to be putting in an Nvidia RTX A2000, so this video was a great relief to me as the modification is so easy. I know my notch will be a bit bigger. Great Job. Thanks again.
I put the A2000 in, yet I had to cut out the notch a bit larger. I added some U channel door trim on the area that I cut, so that the sharp metal edges would not touch the video card. It works great. I would like to upgrade to a 5800x3D, but I am not sure if it will work with the motherboard that is in there. @@DLMtechgarage
Funny I used to flip some dell's with I7's like this. I was getting those units for $50 putting around 125-150 into them and selling for 400ish. Stopped once covid started due to the fact that I couldn't get affordable GPUs and I am down now because in my area most businesses went to thin clients fed from a server. Glory days it was fun and gave some people a cheap decent gaming desktop 1080p
I recently picked up a used but in fine condition Lenovo M725s SFF PC for $130 on eBay. It came with a Ryzen 5 2400G CPU and a good Samsung 256GB NVME M.2 drive. I installed another 8GB Samsung ram stick and added a 1TB Crucial BX500 SSD as an additional drive, both on sale for a total of $83. I also added a ColorPower RX 6400 for a bit more than I wanted to pay ($150) but it was the only modern GPU that would fit without modding the fold down drive assembly. It's actually a pretty nice set up for a used office PC. It runs the few games that I play occasionally pretty well at over 60 fps with full 1080p on most and 900p on BF 1 and BF V, medium settings.
@@nickfury1279 The motherboard is a Lenovo OEM and it is locked down to some extent. From what I understand the latest chip set/bios for the M725s may support up to a Ryzen 5 3000 series, and that's a maybe. ...and remember the factory power supply is a low wattage one, probably 210Watts. So you'll want to have a lower power draw CPU in order to run a low profile GPU.
I never have played COD Warzone but I doubt very much you would be happy running it on this PC even if you added a Ryzen 5 2600, a RX 6400 and 16GB of ram.@@madhureshminoshi4272
Remember the day I got my 6400 low profile?? I called you and drew right away!!! I swear it’s a RX 570 but LP!! We need more LP cards in the world Louis!!! Great Video!!
rx6400 lp - thats one of the cards Im considering getting for my sff computer - seems to get some pretty good reviews and from what I can tell, is a decent step up from some of the other usual cards ya might consider sticking into one these small computers.
I think earlier in the video you were talking about the XFX version which I’ve looked into and seems decent. Have one of these kind of ITX OEM machines with an i7 4790 but haven’t really got around to it. If you really wanted to turn that PC into an actual beast and you have an unlimited budget I suggested Ryzen 5 3600x and Nvidia A2000 LP ($299, Amazon) workstation card is equivalent to an RTX 2060 in games. You might want to cut a bigger hole though since it’s a multi slot card xD
The XFX version of the 6400 probably would have fit without cutting, too. It's a lot shorter, but does have a slightly worse cooler. The cooler could end up being important in a case with so little airflow, I suppose.
The rx6400 is also made for pci 4.0. It will run in pci 3.0 but it loses an average of 13-15 percent in performance. Still a great card for low-budget builds like these.
I really wanted to do a build in one of these and ran into the same issue with the GPU, so I opted for a HP Z240 instead since I needed the hard drive. For Fortnite, check to see how much VRAM you're using. Could be problematic if you're near the VRAM limit, and dropping textures down, as well as some other settings, could smooth it out.
Great video, thanks for the steps + costing. Around 11:45-12:45 what magic prevented the marker from staining your T Shirt? Also, a bot of masking tape around the area that you cut.. to prevent any injuries.. at a later time .. would that be recommended? I would have filed the sharp edges if any and then taped, but that's just (the overcautios) me.
I got almost the same pc case but a xeon cpu instead what I did is bought a rx 570 in ebay for 50 bucks and I cut the pc case side of the gpu slot and made fit it doesn’t close the case but got a gaming pc for 100bucks
really wonder what's the chipset for the mainboard ? if it's b550 you could change the cpu to R3 3100 to enable pcie 4.0, seeing as you're using RX6400 which should runs at pcie 4.0 x4
me and the wifes first name and last name, did it cause she was the one that snuck around me and released my first video i recorded pushing me to do this.
Hello friend, I wanted to ask you if your power supply is 210w? i have that same font and i want to try using that graphics card, thanks a lot and great video!
Fort stutters and is lower fps the first few games till it optimizes all the shaders and loads all the textures etc. After a few games itll have that saved and play way better.
If i wanted to change the cooler on on this, what mounting hardware would work, would it be AMD or an intel cooler mount, or is it some wierd lenovo style?
I dont know unless you are really worried about cooling I would have taken the inner panel out and just let everything loose inside. Rather than cutting it
I have a question, i get a m75s Ryzen 5 2400g, i want get other 8 ram and the rx 6400, but in the page of xfx say minimum psu is of 350w, not is danger use the 210w?
wouldn't 1650 super low profile be better choice considering the PCIE 3.0 limitation on 6400XT which requires 4.0?? Anyhow, Like the sleeper PC.... :) I had one back in the days with IMB similar class tho the casing was alot heavier & chunky to boot... So I kinda enjoy this vid for what it worth... Thanks 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
That stutter in Fortnite after adding the RX 6400 is because the 3200G is a major bottleneck for that card. Definitely worth upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 or even a 5600 (if the motherboard/bios supports 5000 series) its basically an Xbox One sized gaming PC.
Yo i copped an m710s without doing much homework in gpu dimensions because im an idiot but you think i could fit that same gpu in there with the same cutting mod? Or maybe even an rtx a2000 if i wanted to go a bit further? I sae a vid of another guy fitting that gpu in another sff lenovo office pc
@@DLMtechgarage ok so i actually ended up putting a 6400 in there after doing a similar cut as in this video. Its running pcie 3 with i7 7700 and 16 g ddr4 2400 ram and i got avg 42 fps halo infinite on low settings and on 3d mark night raid i got 26393 does this performance sound right for this build? Would i be able to play any other game on this too if i dont mind low settings and if i wanted better performance should i upgrade gpu or cpu first
@@spiritofthetallhills2037 best gpu options are the 1650 or rtx a200... they are pricey though but run better. the rex6400 suffers as it needs pcie gen 4 support and looses performance if its not in a gen 4.
@@DLMtechgarage i think ill go with an a2000 after a while as i heard that the 1650 runs about the same as the 6400 on pcie 4 so its not as big of an upgrade. Gonna try get my moneys worth out of the 6400 first tho and use it for a couple months maybe uprade later this year. Theres also a 12 gig version of the a2000 but im wondering if it will be overkilll for this although vram requirements seem to be getting pretty high. New star wars jedi game seems to recommend 8 gigs
you can clone the old drive to the new driver, downolad windows to a usb and install it, as far as the key, they get linked to the board and windows detects it from their.
Two questions 1. The wattage on these power supplies are 210w. Is that really enough for even one additional video card? 2. Are those PCIE 4.0 sots or 3.0 slots? 3. Has anyone attempted to use a AMD Ryzen 7 5700G CPU in one of these? 4. Since there is integrated graphics in the CPU; does it also work in tandem with the dedicated graphics card? Also side note, it has M.2 slots so you can use those instead of a SSD / HDD
1) it is for the lp gpu's 2) pcie 3 3) I did and it would not work 4) it can work but only for a secondary monitor but not for any performance gains. I went with a SSD cause it was what I had in stock appreciate the questions!!
@@DLMtechgarageI got an AsRock Intel A310 Low Profile, had to do the same cut mod, but the computer doesnt seem to post with the GPU installed. I guess the A310 is too much for the 210W PSU? I'm looking into Flex ATX PSUs but none of them seem to support 12VO motherboards :( Any idea?
Hello . Sorry for writing this question on your YT channel but can i put a rtx 3060 ti or RX 6750 XT with i5-7400 for 1440p Ultra-Wide monitor ? Can i trust the results from pc build/com ? and if a 500 psu it s enough . Thanks !
I would go with a 650w to play it safe, but that should be a fair combo. the 7400 might bottlneck it and an i7 7700 would be better. You can trust the result from their.
Honestly, all dual channel does for you is turn crap into crap + 10 fps (figuratively speaking, and only as far as iGPU). For sure always have two sticks if possible, but if it made that much of a difference, manufacturers wouldn't sell them with 1 stick instead of 2. I'd be more worried about how the iGPU on Ryzen usually steals 2GB of ram so you'd be at 6 GB if you had 8 GB. I wouldn't consider the computer in this video worth putting more than 16gb in. Anyone who has ever in their life had a discrete GPU that had it's own faster graphics memory, an iGPU will never be OK, or enough for you, it's not a video card.
@@itstheweirdguy you are completly right ;p, it will never be an full gpu, but i'm right aswell the merely 10 fps differance that you talk about, can make the differance playable/unplayable, and dont forget the 1% lows on fps they gonna get higher too. Atleast on older architecture i dunno about new, thats why i watch and compare. higher bandwith ram could be the differance making factor this time i've heard about 6000mhz? 7000mhz ?
If you defrag and optimize your HDD, you will be surprised how well you can play any game with no stutters, but people don't think about this, they only install games leaving a 50% fragmentation and thinks the drive is trash just because SSD exists.
@@DLMtechgarage well, I must apologize! I was going over my notes and found that I'm a big fat liar. somehow, I said 7925. but, I have 7525 in my notebook. grrrrrr. the reason that I was doing that is because I've noticed a somewhat significant drop in scores. 1st test was 7525. test #2 7048, test #3 7032, test #4 7004. the only thing that I changed between 1 and 2,3,4 was an "upgrade", to windows 11. test 1 had a max fps of 588.2. 2 was 566.5, 3 was 567.8, 4 was 567.3. so, an approximate loss of 20 max fps between test1 and tests2,3,4. I'm going to try to figure out hoe to go back to windows 10 for retesting. these are done with Super Position Unigine 2.0 Heaven.
hello there i have a doubt . i have a pc ( lenovo m720sff ; 512gb sdd , i7 8700 3.20ghz) since alot of gt gpus bottle neck my pc . is it possible to put gtx 1660 low profile .
What Abt rx5500 I can’t seem to find low profile version of this gpus in my country . If u mind can u help me tell which gpus might fit and not. Bottleneck i 7 8700 thanks ❤
DO NOT put another Ryzen CPU in it before you de-activate PSB from the BIOS. Lenovo will lock the AM4 CPU's and you will not be able to put it in another system.
for having xp on other systems you didnt fix the position of the cpu cable that its right above the ram slots no only a gc fix all its a limited computer with all lock up
yea, its terribly when you go to sell the pc, the customer wants to see the game and then notices the stutters and asks about it.... even on my higher end build it does it.... I have seen that break a deal... personally hate the game lol...
Si puedes yo compre esta computadora para mi hermano el tiene tambien una gt 1030 zotac gdrr5 y haciendo el pequeño MOD o corte que el hace en el video encaja perfectamente
@@DLMtechgarage hello, is it possible to upgrade the cpu to a non pro cpu? my brother needs a more powerful cpu and in aliexpress only the r7 2700 non pro is available and have you tried a ryzen 3000 is possible? :c i didnt consider the sh.1t Bios limits of this types of PC 😂
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Great vid! I’m glad you added the 2 sticks of memory. It makes a big difference.
It's still so amazing to me how you can still upgrade these Lenovo machines and still get good decent performance.
It always blows my mind that as soon as parts go in an ugly office PC green puke motherboard people seem to think it's worthless. The ryzen chip is worth the cost by itself and you got bonus parts with that. Nice find.
Sorry for replying to an old comment, but there's actually a catch there sometimes. Some of these chips are vendor-locked. They can't go to a board from a different manufacturer. Obviously not all of them, but it's better to check around before you buy parts coming from one of these ex-enterprise prebuilts. That said, most people simply buy the whole PC, so I guess it's fine.
Another problem would be the limited space for add-ons (like a graphics card) and the similarly limited PSU. 210W is actually pretty decent for a prebuilt this size. HP's SFF prebuilt come with a mere 180W PSU. So you do have to get a little creative there.
Keep in mind, guys. You can double this fps if you get a slightly older used GPU instead for the same money as the price of an rx 6400.
You could buy driver support will fall off of those well before a 6400
@@trashtronics1700 but realistic the Rx 6400 will be obsolete first cus of it's performance
No you need to upgrade the PSU
@@Nxrth6666 a 1660ti is twice as powerful as an rx6400 and does not require external power.
@@stranger.granger 1660ti has a TDP of 120 watts and requires an 8 pin XD what are you talking about
I "rejuvenated" a little Dell SFF tower recently, they *really* engineer this stuff to task and the specs are all lopsided. Was fun to see it actually play games at decent speed tho. It's gonna be an emulation box for me eventually.
honestly doing that is 10 times more fun than buying new parts
I've spliced in PCI power connectors on a 350w PSU. It worked fine running a 970 I had laying around.
I have the same model and did the same modding as your s.
Only difference is I had the Ryzen 2400G with Vega 11 Graphics and had a Samsung NVME SSD and a 2.5" 512GB HD.
I added in the RX 6400. I upgraded the CPU to a Ryzen 3400G (so that I can use Winodws 11) which I got from my daughter's PC since she upgraded to a 3600X. I also upgraded the RAM to 16GB. Plus swapped out the 2.5 GB 512HD with a 1TB SATA SSD that I used on an old laptop that sadly died and was unrepairable.
All in all was a fun project for my personal low end gaming rig for Diablo and Starcraft.
i love this kind of videos.
Great video, I like that you show the full process, including the pre upgrade performance and the case mod.
Don't worry about the FPS jump in the tomb raider, it always jumps at the start of that scene and then drops as the scene moves down to the village.
The stuttering in fortnite is because you have become CPU bottlenecked. Ideally you could upgrade the CPU to a slightly newer 6 core however that would require some research to ensure that the OEM bios will support what ever CPU you want to put in. I would leave it as it is, as it's a greater starter gaming pc.
Thanks for the info!!
These types of machines are so much fun. Way more interesting to soup up an old office machine than just throw money at a gaming rig.
i def agree. I enjoy these more.
got an hp z440 that I dailey use more then my main rig.
Pls give me a Lenovo think center mini desktop featuring intel core I9 14th gen CPU. it will mean alot for me, bcz presently i cant afford one like this. if you want to send i will give my addrress . advance love from Bangladesh.
Thanks for the great video. I just ordered one of these computers (3700X). I am going to be putting in an Nvidia RTX A2000, so this video was a great relief to me as the modification is so easy. I know my notch will be a bit bigger. Great Job. Thanks again.
that gpu is a nice upgrade!!
I put the A2000 in, yet I had to cut out the notch a bit larger. I added some U channel door trim on the area that I cut, so that the sharp metal edges would not touch the video card. It works great. I would like to upgrade to a 5800x3D, but I am not sure if it will work with the motherboard that is in there. @@DLMtechgarage
Funny I used to flip some dell's with I7's like this. I was getting those units for $50 putting around 125-150 into them and selling for 400ish. Stopped once covid started due to the fact that I couldn't get affordable GPUs and I am down now because in my area most businesses went to thin clients fed from a server. Glory days it was fun and gave some people a cheap decent gaming desktop 1080p
GREAT LITTLE VIDEO! 👍
Thanks for watching!
I recently picked up a used but in fine condition Lenovo M725s SFF PC for $130 on eBay. It came with a Ryzen 5 2400G CPU and a good Samsung 256GB NVME M.2 drive. I installed another 8GB Samsung ram stick and added a 1TB Crucial BX500 SSD as an additional drive, both on sale for a total of $83. I also added a ColorPower RX 6400 for a bit more than I wanted to pay ($150) but it was the only modern GPU that would fit without modding the fold down drive assembly. It's actually a pretty nice set up for a used office PC. It runs the few games that I play occasionally pretty well at over 60 fps with full 1080p on most and 900p on BF 1 and BF V, medium settings.
There was a 1650 G6 low profile on Amazon warehouse for like 150$
Could the M725S’s BIOS support a newer CPU? Something like a 5600G? Would be a hell of an APU setup
@@nickfury1279 The motherboard is a Lenovo OEM and it is locked down to some extent. From what I understand the latest chip set/bios for the M725s may support up to a Ryzen 5 3000 series, and that's a maybe. ...and remember the factory power supply is a low wattage one, probably 210Watts. So you'll want to have a lower power draw CPU in order to run a low profile GPU.
i have the same lenovo computer. Could you tell me if yours can run Warzone and at what settigns.
I never have played COD Warzone but I doubt very much you would be happy running it on this PC even if you added a Ryzen 5 2600, a RX 6400 and 16GB of ram.@@madhureshminoshi4272
picked up a m710s at goodwill for $10. put a harddrive, 6700k, and 16gb of ram i had laying around. pretty nice little package.
Remember the day I got my 6400 low profile?? I called you and drew right away!!! I swear it’s a RX 570 but LP!! We need more LP cards in the world Louis!!! Great Video!!
we really do.... hoping the newer technology goes lp.
rx6400 lp - thats one of the cards Im considering getting for my sff computer - seems to get some pretty good reviews and from what I can tell, is a decent step up from some of the other usual cards ya might consider sticking into one these small computers.
if you can go 1650.... the difference is big.
Def a new old stock system, great video
Thanks!
I think earlier in the video you were talking about the XFX version which I’ve looked into and seems decent. Have one of these kind of ITX OEM machines with an i7 4790 but haven’t really got around to it. If you really wanted to turn that PC into an actual beast and you have an unlimited budget I suggested Ryzen 5 3600x and Nvidia A2000 LP ($299, Amazon) workstation card is equivalent to an RTX 2060 in games. You might want to cut a bigger hole though since it’s a multi slot card xD
The XFX version of the 6400 probably would have fit without cutting, too. It's a lot shorter, but does have a slightly worse cooler. The cooler could end up being important in a case with so little airflow, I suppose.
😄 I grabbed the same tackle boxes from Amazon for parts.
best tech tool box I ever had!!
The rx6400 is also made for pci 4.0. It will run in pci 3.0 but it loses an average of 13-15 percent in performance. Still a great card for low-budget builds like these.
Incorrect, even a 3080 only gets a 1-2% difference in pcie3 vs 4... th-cam.com/video/0DKVVtirNM8/w-d-xo.html
@@91ludesit I stand corrected.
yea I should of mentioned that. Thanks!!
I just did this recently with a p910s it came with i7 7700 16 gb (2x 8gb ) ram . just added the xfx rx 6400 and 1 tb SSD I got for 50 dollars
very nice 👍
I really wanted to do a build in one of these and ran into the same issue with the GPU, so I opted for a HP Z240 instead since I needed the hard drive. For Fortnite, check to see how much VRAM you're using. Could be problematic if you're near the VRAM limit, and dropping textures down, as well as some other settings, could smooth it out.
Thanks for the info... the stutters when customers sea it can break the deal. will try to see if that help.
A working AM4 system at below 100? That's a steal!
Great video, thanks for the steps + costing.
Around 11:45-12:45 what magic prevented the marker from staining your T Shirt?
Also, a bot of masking tape around the area that you cut.. to prevent any injuries.. at a later time .. would that be recommended? I would have filed the sharp edges if any and then taped, but that's just (the overcautios) me.
Def good tips
I would've liked to see how it ran changing only the RAM to the dual channel mode with more speed. It's known that ryzen processors like fast rams.
Yea wish I would of tested that but this little guy sold quick.
Great video, ran into the same problem with the GTX 1650, but didn't think of cutting the frame. Thanks! How do you access the bios on it???
Glad it helped, i think its f1 or f2. havent had a lenovo in a while.
I got almost the same pc case but a xeon cpu instead what I did is bought a rx 570 in ebay for 50 bucks and I cut the pc case side of the gpu slot and made fit it doesn’t close the case but got a gaming pc for 100bucks
Damn! I did the exact same mod to my lenovo thinkcenter with i9 9900 with the rtx a2000 with the exact same metal cutters as well lol!
i have the same model and am thinking of upgrading the graphics. Which one do you suggest ?
The RX 6400 box recommends 350W power supply. Will it run fine with the 210W? Mine also has 210W. Thanks
Also - the 6400 LP is perfect but the 1650 LP I don’t think will not shut without some mods. The only drawback of the 6400 is no encoder.
As the scene comes up!!!! LOL 😂
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really wonder what's the chipset for the mainboard ? if it's b550 you could change the cpu to R3 3100 to enable pcie 4.0, seeing as you're using RX6400 which should runs at pcie 4.0 x4
AMD PRO 560 FCH
I checked the bios did not see anything for that.
The rx 6400: The perfect $150 video card for your $75 Lenovo. 🤔😁
As a viewer of the channel for a couple months, what does DLM stand for? Also thanks for the great content
me and the wifes first name and last name, did it cause she was the one that snuck around me and released my first video i recorded pushing me to do this.
Hi, I wanted to know which exact graphics card is it that you mentioned when you said you'd rather use the 1650? And thank you.
a 1650 low profile gpu would work, any one, none in particual id prefer
hey, I'm about to buy an asus gtx 1050ti 4gb and I was wondering if it will work with a 210 watt power supply like the one in the video
Love these budget pcs.
I want to ask, why you install windows 11?
customer request. I give them the options and pros and cons of both and they always choose 11.
Try another case power supply CPU GPU upgrade with one !
Nice
Thanks
Hello friend, I wanted to ask you if your power supply is 210w? i have that same font and i want to try using that graphics card, thanks a lot and great video!
Yes, it is
Fort stutters and is lower fps the first few games till it optimizes all the shaders and loads all the textures etc. After a few games itll have that saved and play way better.
I like using the 1650, costs a little more but performs way better.
me too
The 6600m is under $185 and its better than 1650 and using 75watts only.
@@lelouchabrilvelda1794 need to see if it is low profile. that is the key for this one.
If i wanted to change the cooler on on this, what mounting hardware would work, would it be AMD or an intel cooler mount, or is it some wierd lenovo style?
not sure
shared to twitter bro
thanks!
single stick of ram hurts perf a good bit with modern CPU's
I dont know unless you are really worried about cooling I would have taken the inner panel out and just let everything loose inside. Rather than cutting it
I have a question, i get a m75s Ryzen 5 2400g, i want get other 8 ram and the rx 6400, but in the page of xfx say minimum psu is of 350w, not is danger use the 210w?
It will work fine. I did the same with this build and it was solid!
@@DLMtechgaragedo you think it will have longterm effect?
wouldn't 1650 super low profile be better choice considering the PCIE 3.0 limitation on 6400XT which requires 4.0?? Anyhow, Like the sleeper PC.... :) I had one back in the days with IMB similar class tho the casing was alot heavier & chunky to boot... So I kinda enjoy this vid for what it worth... Thanks 🍻🍻🍻🍻🍻
I agree it would, being honest i did not do enough research going into this card. learning alot from the comments about this card!
That seems to have been a very good price for that pc.
Might be worth looking into an older unit with a 24 pin connector on the motherboard, then again the PSU may be weaker.
u can just a get a 4 dollar adapter
Bro said structural integrity be damned
That stutter in Fortnite after adding the RX 6400 is because the 3200G is a major bottleneck for that card. Definitely worth upgrading to a Ryzen 5 3600 or even a 5600 (if the motherboard/bios supports 5000 series) its basically an Xbox One sized gaming PC.
Eh, Fortnite stutters on amd cards right now regardless of cpu.
hello, i'm about to do the same upgrade. but is it safe not upgrading the PSU?
works perfectly fine and with no issues!!
Yo i copped an m710s without doing much homework in gpu dimensions because im an idiot but you think i could fit that same gpu in there with the same cutting mod? Or maybe even an rtx a2000 if i wanted to go a bit further? I sae a vid of another guy fitting that gpu in another sff lenovo office pc
a little dremel action can make anything work!!
@@DLMtechgarage ok so i actually ended up putting a 6400 in there after doing a similar cut as in this video. Its running pcie 3 with i7 7700 and 16 g ddr4 2400 ram and i got avg 42 fps halo infinite on low settings and on 3d mark night raid i got 26393 does this performance sound right for this build? Would i be able to play any other game on this too if i dont mind low settings and if i wanted better performance should i upgrade gpu or cpu first
@@spiritofthetallhills2037 best gpu options are the 1650 or rtx a200... they are pricey though but run better. the rex6400 suffers as it needs pcie gen 4 support and looses performance if its not in a gen 4.
@@DLMtechgarage i think ill go with an a2000 after a while as i heard that the 1650 runs about the same as the 6400 on pcie 4 so its not as big of an upgrade. Gonna try get my moneys worth out of the 6400 first tho and use it for a couple months maybe uprade later this year. Theres also a 12 gig version of the a2000 but im wondering if it will be overkilll for this although vram requirements seem to be getting pretty high. New star wars jedi game seems to recommend 8 gigs
Can you try to Upgrade the cpu, because i don't think you can update the bios.
I could not, it would not take anything different.
Though I know levovo has some weird bios nonsense that’d be cool upgrading it to like a ryzen 5 3600 or something like that
i tried it did not work, ryzen 5 3400g pro is the only one you can upgrade too.
@@DLMtechgarage I wonder if Lenovo has any available firmware that supports it or any 2000 series chips.
I think because of the "PRO" version and Lenovo things. Maybe it's already activated, you can't swap the CPU. I have read about this somewhere before.
@@HairyScrambler I checked and they did not.
Is this good for upgradability or is it not compatible with newer components?
best you can do is max out the ram, put a 1650 in it... m.2 and max out the recommended cpu specs. newere stuff not compbatible.
I might be getting a Lenovo ThinkCentre M92p how hard is it to case swap I will be using a R9 390 8GB with it?
its similar to swap like the m83, I did a video on the channel showing a case swap
Question. when you change the Hdd to ssd how do you reinstall Win? or find product key for it?
you can clone the old drive to the new driver, downolad windows to a usb and install it, as far as the key, they get linked to the board and windows detects it from their.
@@DLMtechgarage thanks
I just bought one with the ryzen 5 5650G and M.2 SSD for $50 it’s the PSU upgradable? And can you put a full size GPU?
nope, full size wont fit and the psu is proprietary to lenovo.
hello DLM tech garage should i get gtx 1650 low profile or 6400 low profile? thanks
1650 lp all day long!!
Two questions
1. The wattage on these power supplies are 210w. Is that really enough for even one additional video card?
2. Are those PCIE 4.0 sots or 3.0 slots?
3. Has anyone attempted to use a AMD Ryzen 7 5700G CPU in one of these?
4. Since there is integrated graphics in the CPU; does it also work in tandem with the dedicated graphics card?
Also side note, it has M.2 slots so you can use those instead of a SSD / HDD
1) it is for the lp gpu's
2) pcie 3
3) I did and it would not work
4) it can work but only for a secondary monitor but not for any performance gains.
I went with a SSD cause it was what I had in stock
appreciate the questions!!
@@DLMtechgarageI got an AsRock Intel A310 Low Profile, had to do the same cut mod, but the computer doesnt seem to post with the GPU installed. I guess the A310 is too much for the 210W PSU? I'm looking into Flex ATX PSUs but none of them seem to support 12VO motherboards :( Any idea?
question, what do you do with these computers, do you sell them back?
I flip them or donate them
Where are the ports to plug your monitor into the gpu
the pc has dispaly ports on the back with the rest of the i/o
until which processor can be upgraded
I would check lenovos site.
Where did you get this for $80? I want something exactly like this.
ebay
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Hello . Sorry for writing this question on your YT channel but can i put a rtx 3060 ti or RX 6750 XT with i5-7400 for 1440p Ultra-Wide monitor ? Can i trust the results from pc build/com ? and if a 500 psu it s enough . Thanks !
I would go with a 650w to play it safe, but that should be a fair combo. the 7400 might bottlneck it and an i7 7700 would be better. You can trust the result from their.
@@DLMtechgarage thank you !
If you plan to game, absolutely get rid of the i5 7400 it is really slow and only 4 cores
dual channel memory!! is importent for igpu or how its called for amd it gives better gameplay experience dont cheap out on everything..
did not think of that for the igpu test. might have to revisit it. thanks!!
Honestly, all dual channel does for you is turn crap into crap + 10 fps (figuratively speaking, and only as far as iGPU). For sure always have two sticks if possible, but if it made that much of a difference, manufacturers wouldn't sell them with 1 stick instead of 2. I'd be more worried about how the iGPU on Ryzen usually steals 2GB of ram so you'd be at 6 GB if you had 8 GB. I wouldn't consider the computer in this video worth putting more than 16gb in. Anyone who has ever in their life had a discrete GPU that had it's own faster graphics memory, an iGPU will never be OK, or enough for you, it's not a video card.
@@itstheweirdguy you are completly right ;p, it will never be an full gpu, but i'm right aswell the merely 10 fps differance that you talk about, can make the differance playable/unplayable, and dont forget the 1% lows on fps they gonna get higher too. Atleast on older architecture i dunno about new, thats why i watch and compare.
higher bandwith ram could be the differance making factor this time i've heard about 6000mhz? 7000mhz ?
My Psu 210W It is enough for a low profile gt 1030??
yes
Can I upgrade my processor to ryzen 5 4600g or ryzen 5 5600
i have this pc with ryzen 5 3400g
not sure, I tried a ryzen 5 3600 and it would not work. I read somewhere that Lenovo locked the bios, but it also might just need a bios update.
Seen some funny sh*t these past few weeks, have you seen the glitterbombed, rgb'd dell slim pc's?
yea, they look ridiculous but sold like hot cakes... crazy....
Where did you get that lenovo?
like a year ago, It's one of these deals I stumbled on after browsing ebay for a a while.
whats that tool called for snipping away metal, I need it haha
Tin snips.
If you defrag and optimize your HDD, you will be surprised how well you can play any game with no stutters, but people don't think about this, they only install games leaving a 50% fragmentation and thinks the drive is trash just because SSD exists.
Where did you purchase the machine for 80 dollars? I looked all over...
ebay... just started searching again and i cant fine them.
Could you test holoIso on this?
will try to look into it
Excuse me... Which graphic card will work better for this sff? The GTX 1650 OC, or RX 6400?
1650 but make sure it's the low profile version
@@DLMtechgarage great, thank you for your answer!
If you get backyard noise you can always do voice overs later with an editor unless your live I guess. But not to worry I guess.
ive thought about that but hate taking away the live feel of the vide.
Is it possible to install a Ryzen 5xxx CPU, either regular or X variant?
i tried and could not get it going.
@@DLMtechgarage I was kinda expecting that, thanks for the confirmation.
Can i upgrade my system with this same ram configuration without any problems?
Dell optiplex 3050
I5 7500
4gb standard ram @2666mhz
Amd Rx 6400 LP
yup, it supports up to 32gb in dual channel.
Where did you get the desktop for $80 ?
ebay
hi! what program are you using for your tests?
heaven benchmark, shadow of the tomb raider, Fortnite.
@@DLMtechgarage I just ran the Heaven one and scored a 7925 on my new build. how does that rate?
@@mrkemblegilstrap not sure, never did the whole score thing, mostly use it for testing.
@@DLMtechgarage well, I must apologize! I was going over my notes and found that I'm a big fat liar. somehow, I said 7925. but, I have 7525 in my notebook. grrrrrr.
the reason that I was doing that is because I've noticed a somewhat significant drop in scores. 1st test was 7525. test #2 7048, test #3 7032, test #4 7004. the only thing that I changed between 1 and 2,3,4 was an "upgrade", to windows 11. test 1 had a max fps of 588.2. 2 was 566.5, 3 was 567.8, 4 was 567.3. so, an approximate loss of 20 max fps between test1 and tests2,3,4. I'm going to try to figure out hoe to go back to windows 10 for retesting. these are done with Super Position Unigine 2.0
Heaven.
@@mrkemblegilstrap all good lol... still good scores.
hello there i have a doubt . i have a pc ( lenovo m720sff ; 512gb sdd , i7 8700 3.20ghz) since alot of gt gpus bottle neck my pc . is it possible to put gtx 1660 low profile .
also for the low profile , can i instead use gtx 1660 , etc ti mini . will it work the same
as long as it's single slot and requires no supplemental power.
@@DLMtechgarageO thx for respondin , will start checkin gpus out will ask if doubts
@@DLMtechgarageI have a doubt , can rx 6600 fit this pc (kinda off same model m720 sff) since I have i7 8th (no k)gen all stuff bottlenecks the cpu
What Abt rx5500 I can’t seem to find low profile version of this gpus in my country . If u mind can u help me tell which gpus might fit and not. Bottleneck i 7 8700 thanks ❤
does it support ryzen 5 3600 and Ryzen 7 3700x processors?
it don't, highest is the ryzen 5 3400 prog
DO NOT put another Ryzen CPU in it before you de-activate PSB from the BIOS.
Lenovo will lock the AM4 CPU's and you will not be able to put it in another system.
interesting, need to look into that.
Dude really these are expensive might as well build my own 😑
How did you get it for $80??
ebay, it's like hunting, go be vigilant or miss out on a good deal.
has anyone had success trying on rtx a2000????
Ryzen single channel big no no 😢
Do you think that is a good pc?
most def, I use it as a spare and runs great with the upgrades.
for having xp on other systems you didnt fix the position of the cpu cable that its right above the ram slots no only a gc fix all its a limited computer with all lock up
Can you upgrade cpu to??
yes, lenovo has a list on their website of better cpu's
whenever you test fortnite when it stutters its most likely an issue with fortnite the game isnt really optimised that well on pc
yea, its terribly when you go to sell the pc, the customer wants to see the game and then notices the stutters and asks about it.... even on my higher end build it does it.... I have seen that break a deal... personally hate the game lol...
Dude: puedo ponerle una gt 1030 Ddr4?
yes as long as it is the low profile version for this model.
Si puedes yo compre esta computadora para mi hermano el tiene tambien una gt 1030 zotac gdrr5 y haciendo el pequeño MOD o corte que el hace en el video encaja perfectamente
@@DLMtechgarage hello, is it possible to upgrade the cpu to a non pro cpu? my brother needs a more powerful cpu and in aliexpress only the r7 2700 non pro is available and have you tried a ryzen 3000 is possible? :c i didnt consider the sh.1t Bios limits of this types of PC 😂
@@DLMtechgarage es compatible con un AMD RYZEN 3 3200G?
@@NexloFreeMusic amigo, está placa.sera compatible con un AMD RYZEN 3 3200G?
Ugh, 4 cores 4 threads?? We are so passed that now.
🤣 ancient tech lol.
It was born to be a business machine, not a gaming machine. Probably great for videos, the internet and word processing.
Ryzen processors require complete thermal paste coverage
its interesting as the cooler does not cover it completly, its splits into a weird design.
Obviously that's untrue, since Lenovo builds them this way. The #1 PC manufacturer.
@@itstheweirdguy Lenovo computers are not good computers at all iv been building and fixing computers since 1995 .
@@itstheweirdguy I'm running a lapped 2600x and cover it completely with paste and still runs 40c at idle with and air cooler with 2 fans on it
the reason your APU performance was so bad is because it **NEEDS** dual-channel RAM!
yea, I was just showing ther performance as is the way I got it but you are def right!!!