That moment you question your life choices when you see someone build a gaming PC for less than the cost of the radiators, fittings, and blocks used to build your own. 🤔 Great video!
These old pc transformation builds you guys show off actually gave me an idea earlier in this year. I have family and friends that live in countries without easy access to pc parts at affordable price so I started converting old workstations like Optiplex’s into gaming pcs and sending them internationally. Pretty amazing what you can squeeze out of even the smallest of optiplex’s
what they did right there is totally bullshit it's not cheap for waht you are getting and it is a nightmare to actually find cheap old workstations even if you do a machine like theirs without a gpu and most often offered without ram will cost you like 300$ already or you have to be on the hunt for ages and shoot one at a lower price of course they dont do it they just take it from their production cash and don't care other than that you can build a gaming pc on am4 much cheaper and probably in a way better range than this is here because for that amount of money they spend here you can build an actual gaming pc of used parts more easily without any stupid power supply oem bullshit parts headache literally buy a ryzen 3600 for 50$ and a used nice motherboard for whatever like 50-70 cooler for like whatever 10$ ram used ofc 20$ case used etc. I could go on you can basically end up at about right about 300$ for an entire build because let's face it who on earth is trying to have 1440p on a cheap system so if you go 1080p anyways you jusst don't need a 6700xt so roundabout 300$ for a 1080p machine or 400$ for a 1440p pc meanwhile they probably spend well over 600 there
@@yazi2879 this is a US channel. obviously going to be buying the parts at US prices. so your big rant was useless. no shit you can get a bunch of used parts, spend time putting it together, and come out cheaper than a prebuilt with an added gpu. not rocket science.
@@swiiishgin1515 that's why I added especially if you are in the us you can get much better builds done, to way less than they spend here. And you don't end up with some stupid oem motherboard. And weird oem power supply. So my point is for us in europ this is entirely not manageable. If they had just taken the workstation and thrown a cheapo gpu in sure, you can do that. It's less effort. But in my experience with a little effort and spending only a small amount more like 50$ or so you can have a decent build at cheap. There is no way someone buys a workstation like that and then intends to "upgrade" it, in the way they did it. So it's purely enetertainment and far from what anyone would do for their usecase. Except they were mislead by videos like this.
Damn I literally just bought everything in this comment although I got the w-2145 8 core/ 16 thread instead. I was a little worried my pulse 6800 xt wouldnt fit, this makes me happy.
hey I just bought the p520 w-2135 with 32gb of ram. I bought a used rx 5700xt to put into it and I plan upgrading the CPU and GPU to a 2145 and maybe a 3080 or whatever is the next meta GPU for it. But do you guys think I’ll be ok with the 5700xt. Also I assume the 32gb will be in dual channel, is quad channel really crucial for this build, Also does it fit a 2230 SSD?
@@fresco_dinero5155 The 5700 xt is a bit too much for the 2135, showing an 8.7% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. I say if you upgrade to a 2145 either keep the 5700 xt or maybe see if there's a good 1080ti deal maybe? If you pair the 2145 with the 1080ti, you get a 6.7% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. People say anything over 5% is bad, but my p520 has the 2145, 1080ti, and 16GB of dual channel DDR4 ram and it works fine. A 3080 would be WAY too much for the 2145 to handle. 23.8% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. And although these server workstations were meant to have a lot of ram, 16/32GB in dual channel will do you just fine with gaming, but 16GB is starting to be the minimum for some games, so 32GB was a good choice. Quad channel isn't necessary. Also they can fit 2 NVME M.2 SSDS but need to be gen 3. My p520 has a 1TB Crucial M.2 SSD and it works just fine. Also with the 5700 xt you get only 0.8% of bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks, but 8GB is pretty much the minimum requirement of VRAM in new AAA titles. All in all, I'd say go with the 1080ti if you plan to upgrade to the 2145, dual channel ram is just fine, and buy a 1TB M.2 SSD at least, but make sure it's gen 3. Sorry for typing so much, I just had a lot to say. Hope this helps!!
After the first video y'all did on this PC, I was so excited to get into PC gaming for so cheap. I bought this Lenovo and added an m.2 ssd and a rtx 2080 super, for a combined total of $500. This thing is honestly amazing for the price and I thank you for making such great content.
@mjisurdad This build is pretty awesome. I gotta say, there is some bottlenecking when pairing the Xeon W-2135 with a 2080 super. I notice it in Cyberpunk mainly. It's not too bad though.
I think the playstation 5 when running 4k on games, uses upscaling technology and truly runs at 720p and upscales to 4k from there . the Xbox series x when playing games at 4k , upscales to 4k from 1080p .. so neither console runs native 4k when playing games at 4k.
Facts 😂 and on pc there's a bunch of tweaks u can do to get more FPS I'm thinking about running Pop OS on a Z440 with a E5 2690 v3 12 core 24 threads and 16gb ddr4-2133 ecc ram and a 500gb samsung Evo Ssd and a Rx 580 8gb $380 build and it can play any game out rn at at least 60 fps
This is an incredible deal. If you already have some parts laying around, you can get this for even cheaper than $500. The fact that the barebones kit comes with a 900w psu, a CPU, a motherboard with 8 ram slots (quad channel), ecc support, dual m.2 slots, AND a case, with the ceiling for upgrades being virtually limitless. All for only $130. Just amazing.
omg keep that, ive had a R7 5700G before and the R7 3800x before, both got crushed by my I7 7820x, was so mutch smoother, not faster, cuz its not always bout FPS but nicer and inputlag is gone sooo yeah, and 64gb of ram, thats not asd crazy for gaming anymore as u might think especially as a ultitasker with 4 monitors :P
keep if for a lil while, u arent that far of an R7 3800X/5700G to be honest, even if its considered old but you bought that cuz you are a high end user and wouldnt be happy with NEW budget parts that only in SPEED would be running off your extremist build there (loved X99 u did the right job in 2015 where as all the others got 4 cores 8 threads are now crying on there 6700k playing ass =)@@xXDarthBagginsXx
I am, right now, replying on a rig I built for $700 that has two Xeon processors that each have 18 cores, 36 threads, for 36 cores and 72 threads that each have a 120mm AIO liquid coler. Inside a tempered glass case with RGB lighting, along with an 850 watt full modular PSU, 64GB RAM, a used 3060 12GB GPU, a 4TB gen3 m.2, and a gigabit wifi and bluetooth combo card.
As a cripto miner i installed plenty of server PSUs to power GPUs in VERY high power draw rigs (up to 2000w a single rig) and i ran into the same exact issue, they will start but gave out 10/15 minutes in, or theyll start but not power all the cards, lets say there where 12 cards only 10 would start, this PSUs are cheap and extremely reliable but for GPUs you need a lot of overhead for some reason, lets say a regular 8 card rig thats 700-800 watts rig, youll need a 1200w server psu, or two 750w in tandem, when supposedly if this things are platinum a single 1000w should do, (especially since the motherboard had its own regular PSU) in the end cause they are so cheap i went for 50% overhead using combinations of 750, 1000 and 1200 watts units, using two when necessary
Sold my 5600x/3070ti custom build for the 8 core version of one of these p520's and popped a 2nd hand 6700xt into it. Getting roughly the same performance at 1440p for a build that cost less than $600. Considering upgrading the cooler and exhaust fan to keep noise down but its been a fun experiment. It will let me down some day and then I have a good reason to custom build again!
Actually like 2% of the steam survey demands 4k gaming =D But I do like watching these machines have life breathed back into them. Personally did this with a Dell T5810 during the lockdowns, added a e5 2678V3, m.2 on an adapter and first a 5500xt then a 3070. Served me well till the SSD kicked the bucket, then I built myself a new machine 13700k.
damn did the samsung ssd glitch get you? luckily i just fixed mine recently before it died. it was in the affected batch range. i also had a 2678 v3 based system that i played with during lock downs. it had only an rx580 8 gb in it and it played Apex Legends pretty well. The power limitation on the 2678 holds it back a bit sadly for some games though I feel. DId it actually keep up with the 3070? edit: also congrats on the new rig! these days I use a 10850k/6700xt system and its pretty enjoyable.
I got one recently as all i do is some light gaming here and there. I got mine with an E5 1650v3 and amd 6600, do you think an update for 40-50 bucks to the 2678 is worth it? lot of guides say doesn't make a difference in gaming? Also do you run 2133 ram or 2400? Ram is one thing i need to upgrade soon.
I don`t give a shit about the steam survey. I don`t seek comformation from the masses. I have an ultra high end gaming rig and wouldn`t want it any other way.
To Comment on the 4K statement: I don't really think that many people are looking to play at 4K because its simply to expensive for most people. 1440P is in fact the sweet spot that most people tend to gravitate toward these days. I build up to 200 machines a year and this is the trend that I see.
The "T" or "P" or several other alpha's are a Jedec code to represent the CAS latency of ddr4 sticks. You rarely saw those suffixes in consumer ram almost exclusively it was on OEM stuff or stuff that was made for server or workstations.
Yes, and with 6 you can interrogate up to 8 (full). If you have a 900-watt (and you are going to need it) or better. Really, you do need all 8 ports full. Do utilize all 8.
I did the same thing with 6 Lenovo Thinkstations P700, each with 2 Intel Xeon E5-2699V3 processors (18 Cores / 36 Threats Each CPU) (5 are connected in a Proxmox cluster) and each with 768 GB RAM on 12 banks, 2 NVME SSDs (2TB) connected via the Flex connector in RAID 1, and one NVIDIA 4080TI (for the cluster, each has NVIDIA QUATTRO K6000). I can say that this is a monster performance. Even games like PUBG, Cyberpunk, and other AAA titles run at 4K with over 60 FPS. MY Next Step is To get Thunderbold 4 and Wifi 6E into the Workstations :)
The Xeon W-2135 draws 140w TDP. It has a nice 3.70 GHz base clock speed to help avoid bottle necks. Are there any of these Xeons with lower power but which still have a base clock speed that can keep up with GPUs? I also wonder if these older chips are wasting a lot of energy. But they have such an awesome build quality and often come with cheap RAM etc. they are irresistible.
I repasted my CPU cooler. I first started with an AMD Vega 64 I have laying around. But finally I added an Asus Aorus 6800XT, it barely fits and it's working just fine with the PSU from Lenovo. I am not running any bottleneck with 6800XT and the Xeon 2135 CPU. Overall I love it. For the price, it's awesome. Only wish is the machine is a little smaller. The case is big and it has a lot of empty space which can be shed to save weight.
Yep, I have the same card (Asus Auros RX 6800 XT) and it's a chonk of a GPU. It fits, but only just, the 12V PCIe cables have to be carefully routed to ensure the side of the case will close....
Just a quick note: With 6 you can interrogate up to 8 (full). If you have a 900-watt (and you are going to need it) or better. Really, you do need all 8 ports full. Do utilize all 8.
Depends on if you can source some dual rank 2666, (or 2993 if you have a W-2200 series processor). I'm not sure if it's compatible with Unbuffered ECC, would be cool if so, Registered always introduces some latency. I was not finding the smaller (16gb) sticks in dual rank (2rx8), maybe the 32gb dimms? Then you'll need 128gb to fully benefit. Yikes.
After watching the initial video on the Lenovo P520 you guys released 2 weeks ago I hopped on Ebay and purchased one! The build is complete and I LOVE this case!! Everything's so cleanly design and accessible. The performance has been amazing! FYI... I just bought another one as well🤣 Specs: Lenovo ThinkStation P520 W-2135 3.70GHz 32GB DDR4 Sapphire RX 5700 XT 1TB PNY SSD
I am using the same W-2135 as you, seems W-21xx Tjm just 65C around only.... it seeme it can thermal throttle very easy....... What is your cpu temperature during CPU-Z Stress test?? p.s. P520 type 30BE is not able to upgrade W-22xx series xeon.
I recently snagged a $300 PC that has an i7 8700k, which is on an MSI Z370-A PRO motherboard, a GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB of DDR4 RGB RAM as well as a Corsair H100i 240mm cooler installed. All of this is housed in a Kediers C270 open air case that has 7 pre-installed fans. All I had to buy was a hard drive and power supply. Did I get a good deal?
im so excited to be playing on a 6700xt,,, until i look on TH-cam and feel like its a super budget build. still the best PC i have ever had and knowing (thanks to you and other youtubers like you) i built it myself.. thanks for all your vids
I bought this PC with the 6700xt before the second video came out and I love this thing! Playing Horizon Zero Dawn at 1080p MAX I get about 120-130 fps off of a 2.5 SSD. I know it’ll only go faster when I get an M.2
I’m surprised this has just recently become popular to do. I have been doing this for years as the various companies I work for allow for cheap old gear purchases from time to time. The SFF Lenovos are good too but you almost have to gut em and add PS. Also: Not surprised the PS was bad, I mean its a USED workstation.
Using old workstation hardware makes a lot of sense and saves a lot of money.. I built a 2x 18 core Xeon, total 36 core 72 thread, Dell workstation based machine with 1300W PSU, water cooling, RTX2060 super, 128 GB DDR4 ECC for only $399 using eBay parts. It may not be the latest over hyped RGB toy but it can do everything I put it through gaming, video & audio work, SDR radio work, and more while just idling along at less than 10% resource use 99% of the time.
I had a precision t7500 workstation with dual xeon 5690's. It had 96gb of ECC ram, and 12TB of storage running the OS on a 1TB ssd, paired with two 8gb rx580's in crossfire. I loved that thing! Using these workstations are awesome. Try and find a dual cpu workstation and you'll just be amazed at the efficiency, stability, and processing power you will have. What a great build you guys have here.
Mike any advice is greatly appreciated are there any office PC that have dual 6 plus 2 pin power supplies. I know the Lenovo p520 featured in this video does but do you know of anything else. I was also looking into z440 hp but it's just dual 6 pin. The Lenovo p520 I'm looking at on eBay seems legit I'm hoping they accept my 229$ best offer it's got 8 core 3.7ghz xeon but no ram SSD windows.
@@jamesbrendan5170hey! Good question . Aside from the cool factor having dual GPUs, despite what reports and articles mentioned, I had performance gains for the work I was doing using what I had. I could have easily thrown any other GPU in that setup, but with xeons running in the configuration I had, any other GPU would have been bottlenecked by those cpus. That's the real reason. Bigger isn't always better
@@Spencerwalker21 hey man I'm sorry I'm getting to you days later, but I'm not too sure. What I can say is, if I had to do it all over, I would definitely upgrade any factory PSU to an aftermarket one. The one I had was great, but I definitely ran out of power many times, so I had to scale down the work I was doing. I feel a problem you may run into is gonna be proprietary connectors (like Dell loves to use). But thankfully, there is a market for adapters in such cases
I LOVE this! My wife and I have older HP G3 Full Towers with Intel 7700. She has an RX 5600XT which fits like a glove. I managed to shove an rx 5700 (2 1/2 slots) in mine, with a little case mod but it works great. I love building from scratch but if I ever do a prebuilt again, I'm going Lenovo as there is way more room in that ThinkStation! Thanks guys!
These are workstation class. Socket 2066. Your 7700 is a desktop class processor. HP has a line of these workstations, just search by processor (I recommend w-2135 or w-2145). HP has some deals on those as well.
W-2155 is real nice. It's cheaper to find one with a W-2145 than add a bunch of $$$ for a used W-2155. They can be had but most of these systems have sadge W-2135s.
I had a similar problem. When running some games it wold work ok, but the moment I tried somthing demanding the computer would crash an reboot. When I replaced the power supply, it worked great and I carefuly opened my old one and found some busted capacitor, that I'm guessing were part of the PCIe rail. All considered, that PSU was 7 years old, 2 years older than the warranty, I served honorably and now it can rest.
A year later things are getting insanely cheap. I got a used ASUS workstation motherboard with a 14 core and a massive Coolmaster heatsink for a hundred bucks. It came with 1 server stick of 8GB DDR4. I got 7 more sticks of 8GB from different vendors to max it out at 64BG for 45 bucks. 145 for everything including the heatsink. The motherboard vendor had 3 of these it came packed well in a static bag with a tube of thermal grease.
My 850-watt modular power supply was also cheap. I after I chose what brand and model I wanted I looked for and found a wiring harness for it for about 15 bucks then I bought the modular power supply that was missing some of the wires for about 30 bucks. I have extra harness parts almost enough for another power supply.
There are many, many BIOS updates for this platform, some of them mention new GPU support, so this is a well supported platform BTW. Its probably worth it to do the BIOS updates.. Its probably a flaky PSU though.
I'm going to build this exact build with a noctua CPU cooler and a 6800xt all tossed into a Mac G3 case. It'll bring me back to when I was a kid playing Freddy fish on my old Mac tower in blue and white. It'll take some gutting but I think it'll all fit with some modifications. The ultimate sleeper PC.
Did a close version of this for 500 dollars with a new monitor after watching this video. Thanks Toasty Bros.! It runs everything I play at max settings great!
I love the look of these workstation cases, so much better than rgb and glass sidepanels imo! But I'm wondering if you could fit a regular ATX motherboard and modular PSU for future proofing?
u can fit whatever you want with a drill and u want to mod it... it wont just fit tho.. u can see them swap the psu it goes in a slot on the motherboard u see the pcb finger. then the cables come off the motherboard to the gpu so u would have to swap the board and psu at the same time.
Nope, PSU is smaller than regular ATX and Lenovo proprietary and the front panel i/o is all kinds of non-standard. I'd go with a normal case if you want to use standard parts
Id like to see faster, dual channel, dual rank ram , with stock timings vs your chosen config. A beefier gpu will make use of the faster interconnect between the cpu and gpu. Alternatively you could up the effects quality or resolution, outting more strain on the gpu, requiring less from the interconnect.
Cool video and all but comparisons would be useful. A 5600X is this level of performance and with 32GB won't cost much more, everything considered. Will use less power and be much quieter. This should be much more interesting to use as a server, as it supports ECC for a decent price.
@@j.bridges2921 Error correcting codes RAM. It is a server thing but it also means it should support both RDIMMs and unbuffered ECC DIMMs. Most times they are both cheaper than desktop RAM when buying used (per capacity) and higher capacity.
that PC is a Workstation grade from Lenovo , you can see the "fin" slots for the quadro cards behind the graphics card, the p series of the Thinkcentre is awesome for long heavy loads.
Yep your not alone onetime I was lucky to score a Dell Precision T1650 Tower and it came with a 600 watt power supply and all it needed was hard drive and swap out the Nvidia Quadro K2000 for a GTX 1050 Ti, next thing you know it it was all set for gaming, but next thing you know it power supply died that I ended up selling off the parts. Also precaution I took was scored a dell optiplex and swapped out the stock power supply for EVGA 450 and months later still working fine. But I've might down the road want to get something like because want to be ready in case I gotta upgrade to newest Windows OS down the road.
If you have the earlier revision of the P520 motherboard, you won't be able to upgrade to Cascade Lake W-22xx. I found out the hard way when I bought a W-2255 and the workstation wont post. I confirmed this by sending a picture of my motherboard to the Lenovo community forum where a Lenovo staff said my p520 motherboard is one of the earlier revisions that won't be able to Support Cascade Lake W CPUs unless I upgrade it to a newer revision.
I have a HP Z4 G4 with a Xeon W2255, 64GB of DDR4-2933 ecc memory, 2x 1TB HP Turbo Z drives and and Intel ARC A770 LE 16GB. There is space for a larger card but the original 750W power supply only has 2 6 pin connectors. It plays everything I throw at it at 1440P max settings
NO, the RX 6700 XT 12GB, which I have used (with an X570/7 5800X/32GB RAM/NVMe) since release is NOT a 4K card for general gaming use. In certain situations, it is acceptable for 4K but the reality is that the RX 6700 XT borders between 1080p and 1440p to get high settings and good FPS, etc over a broad range of games.
some server boards have power allocation you need to set up in bios. I would look into that based on your board, and also I would swap out PSU and try that as well if first option doesn't work.
This is the greatest video you have ever made now this is a beast of a machine I know I have too lenovo thinkstation p500 and lenovo p710 recently bought and I've also bought a lenovo thinkstation p910 these workstation are not to be played with it will pretty much take on any pc in its class range and then sum beast mode activities 😜👏💯💯💯💯
I have the same PC. It's awesome 128GB, Xeon W2295 and an RX 6800XT. It runs FS 2020 NY scenic tour on a 3840x1440 monitor at >50 FPS on max settings. It came with the 690W PSU, but I managed to snag a 900W PSU on ebay for $40 shipped. Worthwhile to have a PSU with a bit of headroom and of course it's proprietary so you have to go with a Lenovo PSU.
this looks very good, i'm having an i7 6700k/5700xt combo, and my platform is kinda end of life.., i think this would be an good upgrade path for me in future if i need to get more cores..
I enjoy your videos a lot. Have you ever upgraded a Dell studio XPS 7100 for use today at decent resolution ( hopefully at least 1440p) and frame rate? Is this even possible? The reason I'm asking is my grandson wants a gaming PC and I have a 7100 and need to do a budget upgrade (if possible) so he can play games.
nice build. However I'm upgrading from my Dell Optiplex 9020 MT to the HP Z2 G4 mainly because it's in my budget to get in my lifetime on social security!! and offers faster DDR4 and 6 cores instead of 4 on my Optiplex. Going with the i7 8700 and barebone with 500 PSU and no bottlenecking with GTX 1650! should be a nice 30% improvement in gaming and multitasking. I was however looking at the Dell 3060 but don't like the layout of half sliding open shit inside case thing, or the 2 tabs in rear to open it.
Update. Bought one of these with a w2145 Xeon 8 core Cpu. 32gb of Ram, and put a 1tb ssd and a 7900xt GPU. Just got it up and running and it’s cruising smooth. Gotta say these new amd gpu are efficient, maxed out most of the settings (only distant shadows turned down) running at native 4k resolution in GTA 5 and the gpu is staying at a nice 63 - 70 degrees.l getting 60fps avg. Loving the extra Vram. Sick machine, the build only cost me about 1300 bucks.
2133p!!! Guys that's 2 speed grades slower than this board will take. You should have gone with 2666. And LAP the heatsink, they are usually not flat. All the bases of the OEM heatsinks I've encountered in these workstations are not perfectly flat. I've had to lap them for the best thermal transfer.
When they were playing Halo I think they had the wrong data in the OSD for Riva for the CPU. They had listed W-2135 but the clock rate was at 4. ghz. On all cores I get 4.4+GHZ on my 2135 (I am sure it was the 2155 they were talking about). I wonder if the 2135 is actually better for gaming as it has a 10% faster max turbo on all cores and while it has fewer cores the games may run faster. The CPU should not be a bottleneck with the 6700xt. I am running a 2080ti and I have no problem getting speeds similar to those listed online.
I think they custom wrote that in and it was a leftover from the last processor. I'm thinking the 2135 or 2145 might be the sweet spot because of the higher clock speeds yes.
I play at 4k all the time with i5 10400f and a rtx 2070 super. You dont need a crazy cpu, an 200 gigs of ram. Mine hardly ever goes above 50% usage with 16gigs. You do need a good graphics card tho. I get around 60fps on most of the stuff i play on high settings, unless i start running heavy stuff like rdr2 etc. Then it will drop down between 30-40 fps on high. Back in the day before i got my current pc, I used to play 4k on a i7 3770 and a r9 390 lol It would do 30fps. I wish i still had it put together, id throw the 2070 in it an see if it bottle necked. I really dont think it would of...an that thing is older then the hills. 4 core 8 thread ddr3. You could prob build a 4k gaming pc even cheaper if you wanted too honestly. It would only be good for gaming though, you prob wouldnt be able to run a server on the thing or do some kinda heavy engineer work. But thats not what a gaming pc is for...
Got one of these with a w2135 paired with my gtx 1650 4gb for now . Had to supply my own m.2 1tb and os but came with 2x8gb ram 900w psu and the above listed cpu all for $168 shipped from ebay !
How's the noise level on these Lenovo workstations? I have a Dell T5810 which basically is almost completely silent but I look for an upgrade with more HDD bays. I use it as a HTPC in my home theater so my goal is to keep the beast as quiet as possible.
Well done for the research and keeping it stable! Small PCs without RGB tend to get hotter (less air holes), so I recommend a fan. I wonder if heat was an issue when it was powering off after 10 minutes. It's unlikely to be the CPU as they would only work for up to 20 - 30 seconds without cooling and get extremely hot like 90+ degrees rapidly, built into it to shut down. GPUs can shut off later if not kept cool as learnt by early Nvidia cards without fans, shutting off after 2 hours.
The P520 has good cooling with front and rear fans, and separate cooling zones. Not quite as good as the Dell 7910 that I also own by also not problem on my P520 with 128GB RAM, Xeon W2295 and RX 6800 XT.
Did you use DDU? also are you resetting the BIOS to default and then going through the settings? Some Lenovo are limited BIOS and others, like these workstation, have support for all kinds of stuff you wouldn’t really need for gaming.
That's an awesome build and a weird issue with the PSU I would love to get a more powerful PC or upgrade my PC as it is struggling with a CPU bottleneck but I cant afford to due to not being able to work now due to cancer and treatment so I will just make do with what I have.
is a reliability issue, a 900w server psu when pushed above 70-80% of theyr capacity will switch off for safety, servers have dual PSUs so when you find them switching you would simply upgrade the PSU pair to a bigger one (1200w), they switch off cause server rooms can be hell hot and at high temps the capacity are reduced so to prevent an accidental fire or a burnt component they just switch off, i usually buy 750w, 1000w, and 1200w rarely ive seen 900w
The Lenovo Branded Motherboard, Resembles The HP-Z440 Motherboard, In It's Ram Layout, With The 8 Separate Ram Slots, And The Layout Of The Motherboard . . .
Interesting video. I may have (fingers and everything else crossed) a P720 arriving with me at some point soon with a Xeon Silver 4210 in it (with space for another), only 16GB RAM and a Quadro P2000 for the other bits and pieces, but I am thinking of using it as a base for an upgraded system from the Ryzen 5 2600x and 980Ti that I am currently running. Of course I shall be swapping out the Quadro for something a little more gaming orientated (Quadro in there as it is an ex CAD workstation) and then looking into more RAM and possibly filling the other CPU slot at some point.
Hi there, I am using P520 with W-2135 , I found that the Tjm temperature for w-21xx series xeon is just 65C around ... seems it can get thermal throttle very easy......... what is your temperature in CPU-Z stress test?? p.s. P520 have two series, Type 30BE and Type 30BF 30BE type is not able to upgrade to W-22xx series Xeon.
Chill video, informative and fun! I rarely sub, but after this video I will sub to you guys. You guys are doing amazing work! Hope you have a great day, cause you made mine for sure! Also, that PC is a beast!!
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That moment you question your life choices when you see someone build a gaming PC for less than the cost of the radiators, fittings, and blocks used to build your own. 🤔
Great video!
What's up guys?! Could I get a Build list on this? Trying something like this and I would love to have the build list as a reference!!! 🔥🔥🔥🔥
link gives error as of this morning.
These old pc transformation builds you guys show off actually gave me an idea earlier in this year. I have family and friends that live in countries without easy access to pc parts at affordable price so I started converting old workstations like Optiplex’s into gaming pcs and sending them internationally. Pretty amazing what you can squeeze out of even the smallest of optiplex’s
what they did right there is totally bullshit
it's not cheap for waht you are getting and it is a nightmare to actually find cheap old workstations
even if you do a machine like theirs without a gpu and most often offered without ram will cost you like 300$ already
or you have to be on the hunt for ages and shoot one at a lower price
of course they dont do it they just take it from their production cash and don't care
other than that you can build a gaming pc on am4 much cheaper
and probably in a way better range than this is here
because for that amount of money they spend here you can build an actual gaming pc of used parts more easily
without any stupid power supply oem bullshit parts headache
literally buy a ryzen 3600 for 50$ and a used nice motherboard for whatever like 50-70
cooler for like whatever 10$
ram used ofc 20$
case used etc.
I could go on
you can basically end up at about right about 300$ for an entire build
because let's face it who on earth is trying to have 1440p on a cheap system
so if you go 1080p anyways you jusst don't need a 6700xt
so roundabout 300$ for a 1080p machine
or 400$ for a 1440p pc
meanwhile they probably spend well over 600 there
@@yazi2879 I am seeing these for $150 with no GPU, $100 for no CPU/GPU/RAM. This definitely can be done n the cheap.
@@PapaVanTwee5 well not in eu and if you are in the us there are better options
@@yazi2879 this is a US channel. obviously going to be buying the parts at US prices. so your big rant was useless. no shit you can get a bunch of used parts, spend time putting it together, and come out cheaper than a prebuilt with an added gpu. not rocket science.
@@swiiishgin1515 that's why I added especially if you are in the us you can get much better builds done, to way less than they spend here.
And you don't end up with some stupid oem motherboard.
And weird oem power supply.
So my point is for us in europ this is entirely not manageable.
If they had just taken the workstation and thrown a cheapo gpu in sure,
you can do that.
It's less effort.
But in my experience with a little effort and spending only a small amount more like 50$ or so you can have a decent build at cheap.
There is no way someone buys a workstation like that and then intends to "upgrade" it, in the way they did it.
So it's purely enetertainment and far from what anyone would do for their usecase.
Except they were mislead by videos like this.
Thanks for ordering from us, guys. Awesome video!
I just ordered one. Can you swap CPU or RAM in the build?
bro please put it back in stock and ill make a $861 purchase.. i configured my a workstation with 10 core xeon and RTX 2080
These turning old pcs into gaming pcs series is amazing!
I have this exact same PC with the 6 core/ 12 thread CPU and 32GB RAM. I'm running the Pulse RX 6800XT with no issues at all. 🤷♂
Damn I literally just bought everything in this comment although I got the w-2145 8 core/ 16 thread instead. I was a little worried my pulse 6800 xt wouldnt fit, this makes me happy.
@@GameDay Yeah I got the w-2145 one also and I was a bit worried my evga 1080 ti wouldn't fit but it did!! I couldn't be happier with my p520.
@@GameDay I got the W-2145 too with the 900W PS and an XFX 6800XT.
hey I just bought the p520 w-2135 with 32gb of ram. I bought a used rx 5700xt to put into it and I plan upgrading the CPU and GPU to a 2145 and maybe a 3080 or whatever is the next meta GPU for it. But do you guys think I’ll be ok with the 5700xt.
Also I assume the 32gb will be in dual channel, is quad channel really crucial for this build,
Also does it fit a 2230 SSD?
@@fresco_dinero5155 The 5700 xt is a bit too much for the 2135, showing an 8.7% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. I say if you upgrade to a 2145 either keep the 5700 xt or maybe see if there's a good 1080ti deal maybe? If you pair the 2145 with the 1080ti, you get a 6.7% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. People say anything over 5% is bad, but my p520 has the 2145, 1080ti, and 16GB of dual channel DDR4 ram and it works fine. A 3080 would be WAY too much for the 2145 to handle. 23.8% bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks in 1080p. And although these server workstations were meant to have a lot of ram, 16/32GB in dual channel will do you just fine with gaming, but 16GB is starting to be the minimum for some games, so 32GB was a good choice. Quad channel isn't necessary. Also they can fit 2 NVME M.2 SSDS but need to be gen 3. My p520 has a 1TB Crucial M.2 SSD and it works just fine. Also with the 5700 xt you get only 0.8% of bottleneck in gpu intensive tasks, but 8GB is pretty much the minimum requirement of VRAM in new AAA titles. All in all, I'd say go with the 1080ti if you plan to upgrade to the 2145, dual channel ram is just fine, and buy a 1TB M.2 SSD at least, but make sure it's gen 3. Sorry for typing so much, I just had a lot to say. Hope this helps!!
After the first video y'all did on this PC, I was so excited to get into PC gaming for so cheap. I bought this Lenovo and added an m.2 ssd and a rtx 2080 super, for a combined total of $500. This thing is honestly amazing for the price and I thank you for making such great content.
I got a 2080 super and it’s still a beast today.
how is this PC holding up? Is the power supply still good? i was thinking of making a build
@@mjisurdad sure is! I'm very happy with the performance and price of it all.
@mjisurdad This build is pretty awesome. I gotta say, there is some bottlenecking when pairing the Xeon W-2135 with a 2080 super. I notice it in Cyberpunk mainly. It's not too bad though.
too bad I sonly found this vidoe after I jJUST built my first PC..... shame on me
I think the playstation 5 when running 4k on games, uses upscaling technology and truly runs at 720p and upscales to 4k from there . the Xbox series x when playing games at 4k , upscales to 4k from 1080p .. so neither console runs native 4k when playing games at 4k.
Facts 😂 and on pc there's a bunch of tweaks u can do to get more FPS I'm thinking about running Pop OS on a Z440 with a E5 2690 v3 12 core 24 threads and 16gb ddr4-2133 ecc ram and a 500gb samsung Evo Ssd and a Rx 580 8gb $380 build and it can play any game out rn at at least 60 fps
@@memesyandhorrorshorts pop os?
@@ifuckedyourmom it’s linux
That's not how they work for all games. For some it is.
For some games it doesn't run native 4K, not all.
This is an incredible deal. If you already have some parts laying around, you can get this for even cheaper than $500. The fact that the barebones kit comes with a 900w psu, a CPU, a motherboard with 8 ram slots (quad channel), ecc support, dual m.2 slots, AND a case, with the ceiling for upgrades being virtually limitless. All for only $130. Just amazing.
I did exactly that after seeing the first video. Friend of a friend needed a build, so I bought one of these things + RAM + storage + RTX 3060
ROOBEER!
@@bananasut3804 I have geforce RTX 3060 on lenovo T7 and think of going for a P700 Workstation, is it fine to run AE and premiere pro🤔
@@Ray_Media i dont fucking know i just like mac n cheese
literally been building pcs like this for yeeeeaaaarrrs. ppl love them too
I use the i9-7900x, which is basically this same chip but unlocked for x299. Hits 4.7ghz easy. Even at stock speeds it does great with my 6700 xt.
Been wanting to move my x99/6900k up to a 7900/7920x, mainly since i don't have to buy a new CPU block lol (x99 Supremacy Evo is x299 compatible)
@biggu2082 No. The W series Xeon's and the X series HEDT i7's and i9's are the exact same chips but incapable.
For this computer, the w-2145 is the one to get for gaming. There isn't even a question.
omg keep that, ive had a R7 5700G before and the R7 3800x before, both got crushed by my I7 7820x, was so mutch smoother, not faster, cuz its not always bout FPS but nicer and inputlag is gone sooo yeah, and 64gb of ram, thats not asd crazy for gaming anymore as u might think especially as a ultitasker with 4 monitors :P
keep if for a lil while, u arent that far of an R7 3800X/5700G to be honest, even if its considered old but you bought that cuz you are a high end user and wouldnt be happy with NEW budget parts that only in SPEED would be running off your extremist build there (loved X99 u did the right job in 2015 where as all the others got 4 cores 8 threads are now crying on there 6700k playing ass =)@@xXDarthBagginsXx
I am, right now, replying on a rig I built for $700 that has two Xeon processors that each have 18 cores, 36 threads, for 36 cores and 72 threads that each have a 120mm AIO liquid coler. Inside a tempered glass case with RGB lighting, along with an 850 watt full modular PSU, 64GB RAM, a used 3060 12GB GPU, a 4TB gen3 m.2, and a gigabit wifi and bluetooth combo card.
I been watching toasty bros for years now. Always loved these diy office build videos
I bought one of these and have it paired with a 3080 currently. No issues so far.
As a cripto miner i installed plenty of server PSUs to power GPUs in VERY high power draw rigs (up to 2000w a single rig) and i ran into the same exact issue, they will start but gave out 10/15 minutes in, or theyll start but not power all the cards, lets say there where 12 cards only 10 would start, this PSUs are cheap and extremely reliable but for GPUs you need a lot of overhead for some reason, lets say a regular 8 card rig thats 700-800 watts rig, youll need a 1200w server psu, or two 750w in tandem, when supposedly if this things are platinum a single 1000w should do, (especially since the motherboard had its own regular PSU) in the end cause they are so cheap i went for 50% overhead using combinations of 750, 1000 and 1200 watts units, using two when necessary
Sold my 5600x/3070ti custom build for the 8 core version of one of these p520's and popped a 2nd hand 6700xt into it. Getting roughly the same performance at 1440p for a build that cost less than $600. Considering upgrading the cooler and exhaust fan to keep noise down but its been a fun experiment. It will let me down some day and then I have a good reason to custom build again!
Actually like 2% of the steam survey demands 4k gaming =D But I do like watching these machines have life breathed back into them. Personally did this with a Dell T5810 during the lockdowns, added a e5 2678V3, m.2 on an adapter and first a 5500xt then a 3070. Served me well till the SSD kicked the bucket, then I built myself a new machine 13700k.
damn did the samsung ssd glitch get you? luckily i just fixed mine recently before it died. it was in the affected batch range. i also had a 2678 v3 based system that i played with during lock downs. it had only an rx580 8 gb in it and it played Apex Legends pretty well. The power limitation on the 2678 holds it back a bit sadly for some games though I feel. DId it actually keep up with the 3070? edit: also congrats on the new rig! these days I use a 10850k/6700xt system and its pretty enjoyable.
I got one recently as all i do is some light gaming here and there. I got mine with an E5 1650v3 and amd 6600, do you think an update for 40-50 bucks to the 2678 is worth it? lot of guides say doesn't make a difference in gaming? Also do you run 2133 ram or 2400? Ram is one thing i need to upgrade soon.
I don`t give a shit about the steam survey.
I don`t seek comformation from the masses.
I have an ultra high end gaming rig and wouldn`t want it any other way.
@@brugj03 and? Did you just want to flex or was there a point?
To Comment on the 4K statement: I don't really think that many people are looking to play at 4K because its simply to expensive for most people. 1440P is in fact the sweet spot that most people tend to gravitate toward these days. I build up to 200 machines a year and this is the trend that I see.
The "T" or "P" or several other alpha's are a Jedec code to represent the CAS latency of ddr4 sticks. You rarely saw those suffixes in consumer ram almost exclusively it was on OEM stuff or stuff that was made for server or workstations.
Yes, and with 6 you can interrogate up to 8 (full). If you have a 900-watt (and you are going to need it) or better. Really, you do need all 8 ports full. Do utilize all 8.
I did the same thing with 6 Lenovo Thinkstations P700, each with 2 Intel Xeon E5-2699V3 processors (18 Cores / 36 Threats Each CPU) (5 are connected in a Proxmox cluster) and each with 768 GB RAM on 12 banks, 2 NVME SSDs (2TB) connected via the Flex connector in RAID 1, and one NVIDIA 4080TI (for the cluster, each has NVIDIA QUATTRO K6000). I can say that this is a monster performance. Even games like PUBG, Cyberpunk, and other AAA titles run at 4K with over 60 FPS.
MY Next Step is To get Thunderbold 4 and Wifi 6E into the Workstations :)
dual x99s? holy hell
did you do turbo unlock?
there’s a 4080 Ti??
how big is the power supply?
@@nothingiamjustsomekindofdu5744 Not a thing on these Xeons....
Was you able to get thunderbolt 4 and wifi 6?
The Xeon W-2135 draws 140w TDP. It has a nice 3.70 GHz base clock speed to help avoid bottle necks. Are there any of these Xeons with lower power but which still have a base clock speed that can keep up with GPUs? I also wonder if these older chips are wasting a lot of energy. But they have such an awesome build quality and often come with cheap RAM etc. they are irresistible.
I repasted my CPU cooler. I first started with an AMD Vega 64 I have laying around. But finally I added an Asus Aorus 6800XT, it barely fits and it's working just fine with the PSU from Lenovo. I am not running any bottleneck with 6800XT and the Xeon 2135 CPU. Overall I love it. For the price, it's awesome. Only wish is the machine is a little smaller. The case is big and it has a lot of empty space which can be shed to save weight.
What's the idle power consumption on this?
Yep, I have the same card (Asus Auros RX 6800 XT) and it's a chonk of a GPU. It fits, but only just, the 12V PCIe cables have to be carefully routed to ensure the side of the case will close....
Custom clear side panel mod!!!!
The optiplex you did looked great
Just a quick note: With 6 you can interrogate up to 8 (full). If you have a 900-watt (and you are going to need it) or better. Really, you do need all 8 ports full. Do utilize all 8.
Depends on if you can source some dual rank 2666, (or 2993 if you have a W-2200 series processor). I'm not sure if it's compatible with Unbuffered ECC, would be cool if so, Registered always introduces some latency.
I was not finding the smaller (16gb) sticks in dual rank (2rx8), maybe the 32gb dimms? Then you'll need 128gb to fully benefit. Yikes.
you guys including some work performance benchmarks would be awesome for these kinda pcs
After watching the initial video on the Lenovo P520 you guys released 2 weeks ago I hopped on Ebay and purchased one!
The build is complete and I LOVE this case!! Everything's so cleanly design and accessible. The performance has been amazing! FYI... I just bought another one as well🤣
Specs:
Lenovo ThinkStation P520
W-2135 3.70GHz
32GB DDR4
Sapphire RX 5700 XT
1TB PNY SSD
did it come with 32gb or did you buy more ram, if so what dd you get?
I am using the same W-2135 as you, seems W-21xx Tjm just 65C around only.... it seeme it can thermal throttle very easy....... What is your cpu temperature during CPU-Z Stress test?? p.s. P520 type 30BE is not able to upgrade W-22xx series xeon.
I recently snagged a $300 PC that has an i7 8700k, which is on an MSI Z370-A PRO motherboard, a GTX 1060 6GB, 16GB of DDR4 RGB RAM as well as a Corsair H100i 240mm cooler installed. All of this is housed in a Kediers C270 open air case that has 7 pre-installed fans. All I had to buy was a hard drive and power supply. Did I get a good deal?
im so excited to be playing on a 6700xt,,, until i look on TH-cam and feel like its a super budget build. still the best PC i have ever had and knowing (thanks to you and other youtubers like you) i built it myself.. thanks for all your vids
I bought this PC with the 6700xt before the second video came out and I love this thing! Playing Horizon Zero Dawn at 1080p MAX I get about 120-130 fps off of a 2.5 SSD. I know it’ll only go faster when I get an M.2
I’m surprised this has just recently become popular to do. I have been doing this for years as the various companies I work for allow for cheap old gear purchases from time to time. The SFF Lenovos are good too but you almost have to gut em and add PS. Also: Not surprised the PS was bad, I mean its a USED workstation.
That Merch on the side of the studio is bussin, still have the hoodie I bought 1+ years ago, full of cat hairs now but...that just makes it warmer :D
Using old workstation hardware makes a lot of sense and saves a lot of money.. I built a 2x 18 core Xeon, total 36 core 72 thread, Dell workstation based machine with 1300W PSU, water cooling, RTX2060 super, 128 GB DDR4 ECC for only $399 using eBay parts. It may not be the latest over hyped RGB toy but it can do everything I put it through gaming, video & audio work, SDR radio work, and more while just idling along at less than 10% resource use 99% of the time.
I had a precision t7500 workstation with dual xeon 5690's. It had 96gb of ECC ram, and 12TB of storage running the OS on a 1TB ssd, paired with two 8gb rx580's in crossfire. I loved that thing!
Using these workstations are awesome. Try and find a dual cpu workstation and you'll just be amazed at the efficiency, stability, and processing power you will have. What a great build you guys have here.
Also shifted from T series Precision. Nearly went with HPZ, as my kids rock those and they're pretty solid... but this P520 creature is nuts! NUTS!@#!
Mike any advice is greatly appreciated are there any office PC that have dual 6 plus 2 pin power supplies. I know the Lenovo p520 featured in this video does but do you know of anything else. I was also looking into z440 hp but it's just dual 6 pin. The Lenovo p520 I'm looking at on eBay seems legit I'm hoping they accept my 229$ best offer it's got 8 core 3.7ghz xeon but no ram SSD windows.
why use CrossFire, by the way? I heard that dual-or-more GPU setups are nigh-useless, except for AI/virtualization stuff nowadays.
@@jamesbrendan5170hey! Good question . Aside from the cool factor having dual GPUs, despite what reports and articles mentioned, I had performance gains for the work I was doing using what I had. I could have easily thrown any other GPU in that setup, but with xeons running in the configuration I had, any other GPU would have been bottlenecked by those cpus.
That's the real reason. Bigger isn't always better
@@Spencerwalker21 hey man I'm sorry I'm getting to you days later, but I'm not too sure. What I can say is, if I had to do it all over, I would definitely upgrade any factory PSU to an aftermarket one. The one I had was great, but I definitely ran out of power many times, so I had to scale down the work I was doing.
I feel a problem you may run into is gonna be proprietary connectors (like Dell loves to use). But thankfully, there is a market for adapters in such cases
Dude just so you'll know I liked and subscribed just because you had the ROADKILL T-SHIRT ON....THEY ARE AWESOME... LIKED YOU VIDEO AS WELL...
I just set mine up. These beasts are amazing!
LOVE the Roadkill shirt!!!!! Big props!!!!
I LOVE this! My wife and I have older HP G3 Full Towers with Intel 7700. She has an RX 5600XT which fits like a glove. I managed to shove an rx 5700 (2 1/2 slots) in mine, with a little case mod but it works great. I love building from scratch but if I ever do a prebuilt again, I'm going Lenovo as there is way more room in that ThinkStation! Thanks guys!
These are workstation class. Socket 2066. Your 7700 is a desktop class processor. HP has a line of these workstations, just search by processor (I recommend w-2135 or w-2145). HP has some deals on those as well.
I like the look of workstation PC's.
W-2155 is real nice. It's cheaper to find one with a W-2145 than add a bunch of $$$ for a used W-2155.
They can be had but most of these systems have sadge W-2135s.
I just picked up 2 of these things
great machine - solid
thanks for your recommendation
I mean they’re so cheap you might as well buy an extra for parts 😂
I had a similar problem. When running some games it wold work ok, but the moment I tried somthing demanding the computer would crash an reboot. When I replaced the power supply, it worked great and I carefuly opened my old one and found some busted capacitor, that I'm guessing were part of the PCIe rail. All considered, that PSU was 7 years old, 2 years older than the warranty, I served honorably and now it can rest.
My 2nd PC ever was a Levono refurb tower with a I7 2600 and I added a new PSU and a used 1070. Then now gaming with a 5800X3D and a 7900XT.
A year later things are getting insanely cheap. I got a used ASUS workstation motherboard with a 14 core and a massive Coolmaster heatsink for a hundred bucks. It came with 1 server stick of 8GB DDR4. I got 7 more sticks of 8GB from different vendors to max it out at 64BG for 45 bucks. 145 for everything including the heatsink. The motherboard vendor had 3 of these it came packed well in a static bag with a tube of thermal grease.
My 850-watt modular power supply was also cheap. I after I chose what brand and model I wanted I looked for and found a wiring harness for it for about 15 bucks then I bought the modular power supply that was missing some of the wires for about 30 bucks. I have extra harness parts almost enough for another power supply.
Great upgrade!
There are many, many BIOS updates for this platform, some of them mention new GPU support, so this is a well supported platform BTW. Its probably worth it to do the BIOS updates.. Its probably a flaky PSU though.
I'm going to build this exact build with a noctua CPU cooler and a 6800xt all tossed into a Mac G3 case. It'll bring me back to when I was a kid playing Freddy fish on my old Mac tower in blue and white. It'll take some gutting but I think it'll all fit with some modifications. The ultimate sleeper PC.
Did a close version of this for 500 dollars with a new monitor after watching this video. Thanks Toasty Bros.! It runs everything I play at max settings great!
I love the look of these workstation cases, so much better than rgb and glass sidepanels imo! But I'm wondering if you could fit a regular ATX motherboard and modular PSU for future proofing?
u can fit whatever you want with a drill and u want to mod it... it wont just fit tho.. u can see them swap the psu it goes in a slot on the motherboard u see the pcb finger. then the cables come off the motherboard to the gpu so u would have to swap the board and psu at the same time.
Lol its already a 900w PSU, what do you need?
@@milescarter7803in general, not this specific model
Nope, PSU is smaller than regular ATX and Lenovo proprietary and the front panel i/o is all kinds of non-standard. I'd go with a normal case if you want to use standard parts
Id like to see faster, dual channel, dual rank ram , with stock timings vs your chosen config. A beefier gpu will make use of the faster interconnect between the cpu and gpu.
Alternatively you could up the effects quality or resolution, outting more strain on the gpu, requiring less from the interconnect.
Love the build and I love the video! How hard do you think it’d be to change the case out for this PC?
It’s the power supply
Crazy that I'm seeing NOS w2155 P520 for just 600GBP now. A lot of bang for your buck!
This is really cool you can actually get a good decent gaming PC by just adding in a good GPU!
Nice pc and definitely refreshing with all the rgb going around
Cool video and all but comparisons would be useful. A 5600X is this level of performance and with 32GB won't cost much more, everything considered. Will use less power and be much quieter.
This should be much more interesting to use as a server, as it supports ECC for a decent price.
yes, I have installed 128GB 3200 Rdimm cost less than USD150 :)
What is ECC?
@@j.bridges2921 Error correcting codes RAM. It is a server thing but it also means it should support both RDIMMs and unbuffered ECC DIMMs. Most times they are both cheaper than desktop RAM when buying used (per capacity) and higher capacity.
Do these workstation motherboards have any advantages or any significant difference?
that PC is a Workstation grade from Lenovo , you can see the "fin" slots for the quadro cards behind the graphics card, the p series of the Thinkcentre is awesome for long heavy loads.
Yep your not alone onetime I was lucky to score a Dell Precision T1650 Tower and it came with a 600 watt power supply and all it needed was hard drive and swap out the Nvidia Quadro K2000 for a GTX 1050 Ti, next thing you know it it was all set for gaming, but next thing you know it power supply died that I ended up selling off the parts. Also precaution I took was scored a dell optiplex and swapped out the stock power supply for EVGA 450 and months later still working fine. But I've might down the road want to get something like because want to be ready in case I gotta upgrade to newest Windows OS down the road.
If you have the earlier revision of the P520 motherboard, you won't be able to upgrade to Cascade Lake W-22xx. I found out the hard way when I bought a W-2255 and the workstation wont post. I confirmed this by sending a picture of my motherboard to the Lenovo community forum where a Lenovo staff said my p520 motherboard is one of the earlier revisions that won't be able to Support Cascade Lake W CPUs unless I upgrade it to a newer revision.
I have a HP Z4 G4 with a Xeon W2255, 64GB of DDR4-2933 ecc memory, 2x 1TB HP Turbo Z drives and and Intel ARC A770 LE 16GB. There is space for a larger card but the original 750W power supply only has 2 6 pin connectors. It plays everything I throw at it at 1440P max settings
you could easily upgrade your cpu for like $60 bucks by buying an i7 7820x
I bought this device. Is it strong in editing and gaming or not? - Please reply - w 2135
NO, the RX 6700 XT 12GB, which I have used (with an X570/7 5800X/32GB RAM/NVMe) since release is NOT a 4K card for general gaming use. In certain situations, it is acceptable for 4K but the reality is that the RX 6700 XT borders between 1080p and 1440p to get high settings and good FPS, etc over a broad range of games.
I have this exact machine - you need 2666 RAM to max it out on a W-2155. It goes to 2933 on the W-2xxx chips.
2933 on W-22xx series xeon only, seems P520 type 30BE cannot upgrade to W-22XX, only 30BF able to upgrade to W-22XX series....
@@josephlai99 - that's really good to know, thanks for the intel!
some server boards have power allocation you need to set up in bios. I would look into that based on your board, and also I would swap out PSU and try that as well if first option doesn't work.
The supplier, PC&Server parts will send you a replacement power supply .. call support & talk to Roge
This is the greatest video you have ever made now this is a beast of a machine I know I have too lenovo thinkstation p500 and lenovo p710 recently bought and I've also bought a lenovo thinkstation p910 these workstation are not to be played with it will pretty much take on any pc in its class range and then sum beast mode activities 😜👏💯💯💯💯
The roadkill shirt made me sub
I have the same PC. It's awesome 128GB, Xeon W2295 and an RX 6800XT. It runs FS 2020 NY scenic tour on a 3840x1440 monitor at >50 FPS on max settings. It came with the 690W PSU, but I managed to snag a 900W PSU on ebay for $40 shipped. Worthwhile to have a PSU with a bit of headroom and of course it's proprietary so you have to go with a Lenovo PSU.
this looks very good, i'm having an i7 6700k/5700xt combo, and my platform is kinda end of life.., i think this would be an good upgrade path for me in future if i need to get more cores..
@4:20 don't mix thermal compounds! Unless you know how the old paste and the new MasterGel Pro react, you could be making a costly error.
I enjoy your videos a lot. Have you ever upgraded a Dell studio XPS 7100 for use today at decent resolution ( hopefully at least 1440p) and frame rate? Is this even possible? The reason I'm asking is my grandson wants a gaming PC and I have a 7100 and need to do a budget upgrade (if possible) so he can play games.
Clicked so fast love your videos btw
nice build. However I'm upgrading from my Dell Optiplex 9020 MT to the HP Z2 G4 mainly because it's in my budget to get in my lifetime on social security!! and offers faster DDR4 and 6 cores instead of 4 on my Optiplex. Going with the i7 8700 and barebone with 500 PSU and no bottlenecking with GTX 1650! should be a nice 30% improvement in gaming and multitasking. I was however looking at the Dell 3060 but don't like the layout of half sliding open shit inside case thing, or the 2 tabs in rear to open it.
that was cool and it will help me when I want to bulid one for a low cost
If there is a refurbished P720 with the same guts selling for $1925, is that overpriced?
Update. Bought one of these with a w2145 Xeon 8 core Cpu. 32gb of Ram, and put a 1tb ssd and a 7900xt GPU. Just got it up and running and it’s cruising smooth. Gotta say these new amd gpu are efficient, maxed out most of the settings (only distant shadows turned down) running at native 4k resolution in GTA 5 and the gpu is staying at a nice 63 - 70 degrees.l getting 60fps avg. Loving the extra Vram. Sick machine, the build only cost me about 1300 bucks.
may I ask what kind of ram did you used? Non-ECC ram or have to use ECC ram?
@@jerrycheung8944 sorry yes I believe it only takes ecc from what I remember reading. DDR4
@@Folk661 thank you.
Why are you worried about bending pins on that cpu, isn't it LGA?
getting mine in just a few days!
I'm having the exact same problem with my RX6800XT. Were you able to find the problem?
cheers.
amazing build, where can i get those tiny boxs for the cpu? ive got plenty of cpu in a large box... those are right what i was looking for.
2133p!!! Guys that's 2 speed grades slower than this board will take. You should have gone with 2666. And LAP the heatsink, they are usually not flat. All the bases of the OEM heatsinks I've encountered in these workstations are not perfectly flat. I've had to lap them for the best thermal transfer.
The Xeon E5-2696 V3 MY recommended build of choice as it beats the Xeon W-2135 in performance tests.
When they were playing Halo I think they had the wrong data in the OSD for Riva for the CPU. They had listed W-2135 but the clock rate was at 4. ghz. On all cores I get 4.4+GHZ on my 2135 (I am sure it was the 2155 they were talking about). I wonder if the 2135 is actually better for gaming as it has a 10% faster max turbo on all cores and while it has fewer cores the games may run faster. The CPU should not be a bottleneck with the 6700xt. I am running a 2080ti and I have no problem getting speeds similar to those listed online.
I think they custom wrote that in and it was a leftover from the last processor.
I'm thinking the 2135 or 2145 might be the sweet spot because of the higher clock speeds yes.
Same company has spec to order systems too. Same company i ordered my dual socket dell workstation from.
I play at 4k all the time with i5 10400f and a rtx 2070 super. You dont need a crazy cpu, an 200 gigs of ram. Mine hardly ever goes above 50% usage with 16gigs. You do need a good graphics card tho. I get around 60fps on most of the stuff i play on high settings, unless i start running heavy stuff like rdr2 etc. Then it will drop down between 30-40 fps on high. Back in the day before i got my current pc, I used to play 4k on a i7 3770 and a r9 390 lol It would do 30fps. I wish i still had it put together, id throw the 2070 in it an see if it bottle necked. I really dont think it would of...an that thing is older then the hills. 4 core 8 thread ddr3. You could prob build a 4k gaming pc even cheaper if you wanted too honestly. It would only be good for gaming though, you prob wouldnt be able to run a server on the thing or do some kinda heavy engineer work. But thats not what a gaming pc is for...
Got one of these with a w2135 paired with my gtx 1650 4gb for now . Had to supply my own m.2 1tb and os but came with 2x8gb ram 900w psu and the above listed cpu all for $168 shipped from ebay !
How's the noise level on these Lenovo workstations? I have a Dell T5810 which basically is almost completely silent but I look for an upgrade with more HDD bays. I use it as a HTPC in my home theater so my goal is to keep the beast as quiet as possible.
Well done for the research and keeping it stable! Small PCs without RGB tend to get hotter (less air holes), so I recommend a fan. I wonder if heat was an issue when it was powering off after 10 minutes. It's unlikely to be the CPU as they would only work for up to 20 - 30 seconds without cooling and get extremely hot like 90+ degrees rapidly, built into it to shut down. GPUs can shut off later if not kept cool as learnt by early Nvidia cards without fans, shutting off after 2 hours.
without rgb?
the tempered glass doesn't provide any extra ventilation
The P520 has good cooling with front and rear fans, and separate cooling zones. Not quite as good as the Dell 7910 that I also own by also not problem on my P520 with 128GB RAM, Xeon W2295 and RX 6800 XT.
@@theofficialmbc It took till the RGB days where ventilation has improved.
Did you use DDU? also are you resetting the BIOS to default and then going through the settings? Some Lenovo are limited BIOS and others, like these workstation, have support for all kinds of stuff you wouldn’t really need for gaming.
really enjoy this amazing content
Gaming on a Xeon?
That's an awesome build and a weird issue with the PSU I would love to get a more powerful PC or upgrade my PC as it is struggling with a CPU bottleneck but I cant afford to due to not being able to work now due to cancer and treatment so I will just make do with what I have.
is a reliability issue, a 900w server psu when pushed above 70-80% of theyr capacity will switch off for safety, servers have dual PSUs so when you find them switching you would simply upgrade the PSU pair to a bigger one (1200w), they switch off cause server rooms can be hell hot and at high temps the capacity are reduced so to prevent an accidental fire or a burnt component they just switch off, i usually buy 750w, 1000w, and 1200w rarely ive seen 900w
What can be valuable when using server/workstation stuff is the PCIe bifurcation. Especially for SSD expansion cards.
Cool idea and build! Unfortunately this camera work made me dizzy and I couldn't finish.
The Lenovo Branded Motherboard, Resembles The HP-Z440 Motherboard, In It's Ram Layout, With The 8 Separate Ram Slots, And The Layout Of The Motherboard . . .
Interesting video. I may have (fingers and everything else crossed) a P720 arriving with me at some point soon with a Xeon Silver 4210 in it (with space for another), only 16GB RAM and a Quadro P2000 for the other bits and pieces, but I am thinking of using it as a base for an upgraded system from the Ryzen 5 2600x and 980Ti that I am currently running. Of course I shall be swapping out the Quadro for something a little more gaming orientated (Quadro in there as it is an ex CAD workstation) and then looking into more RAM and possibly filling the other CPU slot at some point.
Could swap the card for an rtx a2000 that's a decent card with super low power requirements
Odd choice for gaming, does your current motherboard not have 5600 compatibility?
Hi there, I am using P520 with W-2135 , I found that the Tjm temperature for w-21xx series xeon is just 65C around ... seems it can get thermal throttle very easy......... what is your temperature in CPU-Z stress test?? p.s. P520 have two series, Type 30BE and Type 30BF 30BE type is not able to upgrade to W-22xx series Xeon.
sellers in uk asking triple or more the price for thse lenovo units! hp ones are much cheaper but id prefer lenovo
Chill video, informative and fun! I rarely sub, but after this video I will sub to you guys. You guys are doing amazing work! Hope you have a great day, cause you made mine for sure! Also, that PC is a beast!!
You guys slept of the listings for what upgrades you bought. Like the CPU link ?