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Sees a box doesn't check inside to see if anyones in there "Boss I knew you were alive" and continues to stand there for the rest of eternity because the box turns out to be empty
Venom Snake. Almost dies and suffer irreversible damage to protect his friend and leader. Forgets who he even was and is forced to live a lie. Hallucinates that his dead friend Paz is still alive. Falls in love with the most compatible woman he will ever meet but she leaves to save him. Is forced to shoot his own men. Doesn't know who he is until the end. Gets killed by Solid Snake. History forgets him! Fuck man! *ENOUGH ALREADY!*
A secret about Paz room is mentioned by the soldiers on the base. When 2 patrols meet each other, they have facts' discussion. Enemies usually speak about how someone like Big Boss came back around and so on. On the base, once you have unlocked the door to Paz's room and haven't finished the series of mission, sometime, a soldier will ask the other one on the first medical platform. It's something alike to "Why does the Boss move to the platform facing south and stay there while speaking to himself?" The other answer "Don't think about it. It's one of his thing."
Creations Maxo The soldiers also speak about Big Boss going in the platforms without anything being in it. I think thats what the soldiers were talking about.
Yeah, they mention him "watching over construction" too, when they talk about this. Bummed me out when I realized this, that Paz is really, truely dead.
+Bloodbane2099 I dunno, supplies r expensive,, I've done it whenever I do supply drop but I rarely resupply via supply drops.. I usually call chopped and start fresh.
he was busy fighting unicorn zombies in a peralel universe . with the only other human beings being other msf members as his comrads ofcourse he would still be loyal
so yes or no...is Paz just a delusion of Snake? a mentally altered memory to make him feel better about failing the first time? and the whole "i give up statement" is Miller talking about Snake?
+cloud12348 She CAUSED the crash, Venom Snake, the medic, had repressed guilt over his inability to save Paz, since he only spotted one bomb, however, she awakened and leaped out of the helicopter in an attempt to save those in the chopper before her bomb exploded in mid-air, killing her instantly and wounding Kaz even further, and sending both the medic (Venom Snake), and Big Boss into a coma.
The interior cell for that room exists but the codes are unintentionally messed up with the exterior cell - the supply drops are despawned when they hit the hitbox where the room is and appear inside, so the counter would keep spawning them until the player refreshes.
“Where are the others?” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Spit it out.” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Where are the others?” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Spit it out.” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Where are the others?” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Spit it out.” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* “Where are the others?” *”Boss! I knew you were alive!”* And so they went on day and night, saying the same things over and over again...
You can tell which of the people commenting haven't actually closed out this plotline. I recall the game made it fairly clear Venom Snake hallucinated the whole thing. Ocelot's hallucinated explanation of Paz's disorder applies to Venom Snake himself.
UniteAnonymous venom snake is actually the doctor on the chopper who made surgery, he failed to notice the second explosive inside paz's womb and she died. Venom snake hallucinates every paz scene we see on the game in order to be able to cope with himself and his failure.
Vini anônimo it wasnt in venoms mind if we didnt play as him it was in the doctors mind at this time in mgs universe the real snake is lying low in america while the doctor that got face surgery to look like snake is doing all of the work
@@Equasi Venom is the doctor. Venom Snake is what people use to refer to the doctor when he becomes "Big Boss". Venom Snake is not the same person as Naked Snake. Also he is in Africa not America :p He is building Outer Heaven.
djpokeboy that's just the confirmation, we're talking about hints before that moment. Still, if she had actually survived, given how fucked up the situation was, I wouldn't blame her for a spotty memory regarding Peace Day.
Holy shit, I just realised that for the first Paz scene, that the entire hallucination was Venom's brain subconsciously telling him that he's hurt and he isn't Snake. The whole spiel of the Dissociative Amnesia and Dissociative Personality Disorder of "Denying what has happened beyond a certain point" and "thinking she's someone else" is actually directed to the player about Venom and who he actually is. Gotta love Kojima.
Valor Vanguard yeah it does but in all honesty though it was easy to know your not the real big boss from the get go because in the hospital the doctor said they couldnt remove the material that was in your head but at the end of metal gear solid 4 big boss showed up with nothing in his head
Venom Snake was killed in 1995 at the hands of Solid Snake after he destroyed the TX-55 Metal Gear. The body was obliterated in the destruction of Outer Heaven. The Real Big Boss was recovered after the fall of Zanzibarland along with Gray Fox, Snake lost all his weapons when he destroyed Metal Gear D, all he had to fight his Father was an Aerosol Spray Can and a Lighter. After Olga’s Daughter Sunny was save by the PLA (Paradise Lost Army). And they recovered Big Boss’ body in order to bring him back they donors that were his 2 dead son Liquid and Solidus. Then Solid Snakes Mutated strain of the FOX-DIE virus that killed him on top of the Tomb Stone of his Mentor The Boss. I’d do anything to fight Snakes Accelerated aging, Nano-Machines, Skull Parasites, Cyborg Body or a 3 way combination. He’s my Gaming Idol I was 4 years old when the first MGS was released on PlayStation I want Metal Gear Solid Saga to continue only Raiden’s Story 4 Years after the Fall of the SOP system. I want the Truth about SOP, The Boss’ innocence of her self-sacrifice to be proven to the whole World even if it means restarting “Les Enfant Terrible” all over again with the DNA of Everyone who supported and fought against Big Boss, Venom, Solid Snake and Raiden to create clones. Find and fully repair every single Metal Gear that was destroyed so I keep the timeline repeating in an infinite loop to create VR training simulations of all the events to produce a new generation of soldiers trained to take on future Metal Gears.
Venom Snake did not die after Metal Gear 1...Venom Snake (Big Boss): ...can you hear me? Solid Snake... I'm not dead... Someday, I'll get even with you. Someday... we will meet again!
Fun Fact: The type of butterfly shown in this video is known as a Morpho, which is the callsign used for the helicopter pilots in Ground Zeroes. You know... the one Paz died in..
That's really awesome that even if you pay attention to the architecture of the base you can figure out the Paz room isn't even real. Yet I never picked up on that my whole playthrough. It's just a door leading outside and he's imagining a room there on that balcony. Freaking hidden in plain sight.
When I first played this game, as soon as you're told, "You're going to need a translator to understand the Russian soliders," I thought to myself... "But Big Boss speaks Russian fluently... This man isn't Big Boss then ; A;"
***** He was brainwashed into thinking and believing he was Big Boss - he clearly wasn't taught the Russian language or there would have been no need for the interpreter at all. He wasn't "transplanted" to have Naked Snake's memories; he was basically set to listen to mission debriefings of Big Boss' missions over the years until he subconsciously memorized them while in his coma. The Truth tapes explain this.
If you finished the Paz side story, you get the 5th dairy where "Paz" reveals that she is only what "Big Boss" thinks she is, and that she is not real.
I like how the game tries to trick you by showing you another helicopter firing a missile to make you think Paz *is* alive. Clever, Hideo, very clever........
If you guys remember the mission when you go to the devil's playhouse the tent where the guards sleep to contains the same radio from P.T that plays the demonic sound.
+Kaleb Bell *Spoilers* The real Big Boss/Jack/Naked Snake announces Punished Snake as "Big Boss too" at the end of Phantom Pain; so technically that is Big Boss in the picture. Also he is one of the Big Bosses that you fight in the two original Metal Gear games (I can't remember which one it actually is, but still) (:
I COULD HAVE LURED THE MOTHER BASE SOLDIER ALL THIS TIME?!?!?! I SPENT MY LIFE AND SOUL TRYING RO KNOCK HIM OUT AND I COULD HAVE JUST LURED HIM?!? FORGET THIS GAME IM SELLING IT
D3ATHSTR0KE well no matter how realistic metal gear may look just remember this, think outside the box, even your most comical and riddiculous solution could work.
Also Venom’s shadow is impossible. The only light source is clearly from the window behind Paz’s bed, but the shadow is being cast from the corner near the sink, where there is no light source. The shadow is also projected in a way where it’s looming very conspicuously over Paz. Venom is of course a shadow himself.
Oh my God!!! From the entire time I played the game, I always was asking myself why that door leads nowhere. From the inside of Paz room there's no door in that direction and on the outside you can see the symbol of peace painted on the door. I just never put it together. Damn! Kojima does it again.
GTR24 no its not theres a demon snake and a "angel snake" if your horn is big and spiky it means you have reached demon snakes meter killing soldiers and other bad things gives you demon points how ever if you want the horn to be little again you must do good things
The things this game could've been had Konkani given Kojima complete freedom..... It was amazing in the format we got it in, I can't imagine what it would've been.
snacklepuss Yep I saw that as well. I assume the game play might be legit since they are pretty much ripping off msg:pp in that aspect but all the rest is probably the most disgusting and stereotypical franchise rape that one could imagine.
The game was so amazing as it was too. They pretty much made Kojima wrap it up and push it out. God it's such a shame we won't get another Kojima backed MGSV. He's the one that pushed so many features and so much detail into the games. But I genuinely hope Konami does good things with the series.
***** the best we can hope for is Konami tanks and maybe sells the rights to a worthy company or maybe even to whoever Kojima is with. Highly doubtful though.
You actually get more stuff from paz after you collect all of the mb soldiers, each one gives you another picture to show her. After you give her all of them then go in 1 more time for the actual secret.
So Hideo Kojima did a David Lynch... You know I'm trying to go into the Room as another DD soldier and it won't let me I think that should be a proof right there that's a delusion of venom snake
Ground Zereoes ending was a great hit for me (Paz is one of my fav. MGS characters before solid snake era, with Ocelot and Big Boss too), and when I found out that it was just an illusion was and harder pain. 😅😢
You can't normally select weapons or items but if you go in to first person mode with the INT scope, you can select your NVG and they will remain on when you leave first person mode.
Realizing death of Paz is actually closely linked to Venom Snake's identity crisis, so it is actually himself trying not remembering (or being brain washed) the fact, to keep his identity as snake valid.
Game came out in 2015 lol. This isn't one of those "back then" or "games use to actually have content and give us a lot instead of dlc bullshit". Microtransactions and no creativity was already going on. It wasn't even new. This wasn't filled with it because it was a huge AAA franshise, and that stuff didn't fit in it. If you really think this was one of the last games to do something like this you must be young, naive or delusional.
I discovered Paz room didn't exist by pure chance, throwing many decoys at Paz's door. Then when I left by chopper in that same platform and I saw with great surprise that the arm of the decoy could be seen through the door outside.
I noticed that with about, the second photo that I gave her, I was like "wait, why did it disappear? Kojima you rascal", never thought about it being a hallucination until the end.
After all these years I've never realized this. I mean I knew his meetings with Paz were hallucination, but this gives insight on what the mother base guards are seeing when boss is caught actually experiencing them. Awesome video.
If you think about it. Makes sense that Big Boss wouldn't hallucinate Paz or atleast Paz wont be the only Phantom he saw. I think Venom hallucinated Student Paz who thought Peace day happened was a amalgamation of his feelings for mother base. He wanted Peace Day to happened, he wanted to go back to when times were fun and great, He wanted Paz's betrayal to never happen, and most of all, he wanted not fail at finding the other bomb. He wanted peace and Paz the student was the symbol for that yet reality began sinking in. He started remembering things as they really were. Paz was a spy for Cipher, Mother Base along with many of his comrades are gone, and that he was NOT Big Boss. Peace Day never happened nor will he get to see it.
Every single song does something unique I think. Most are still hidden. If you notice, some songs have names in title telling you what they activate... Horse, Noon, etc
***** So if i play the one of the guy takin a shit in the outhouse (i think i found it in the honey bee mission) then they stop hunting me near there? I am evil, i know.
vader1361 Yeah, that one. But the WHOLE song list from where you got Love Deterrence, I believe does something special. I already found the secrets to some of the animal sounds here: th-cam.com/video/9EmsISiLMXc/w-d-xo.html
Anyone consider that Ocelot and Miller may have set this up in order to force BB to face his own mental problems, half of what they say to him in the cutscene is pretty accurate as to his own situation, another form of controlling him or reigning in his guilt perhaps
That room is a whole hallucination though. His brain is telling him "Dude... It's not real, you didn't save her... Come on..." and so it goes with what Ocelot said. Pretty ironic.
I just realized that on wall, next to the door you enter in, is a peace sign with the words peace on it. Then at the ending cut scene the sign and words are there again to show that snake has been walking into an incomplete room this whole time.
Edepot I love your videos I'm a huge metal gear fan and I love hidden things in games and your videos are so well done thank you so much for making them
honestly after playing this game I have never felt more emotional at all from any game. This game made me want to tear up most of the time, it made me mad, it made me happy. The story was so amazing to me and I grew attached to every character. I know a lot of people were mad at the decisions made in the game, but all in all it has drawn me in to the franchise and made me want to play the many earlier titles
what? i mean everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but i think that game had a cool story, or stories should i say? with a lot of the story concerning characters from the series explaining not much from the general story, but telling good/great emotional stories from it's characters. you know what i mean? also you should really see it this way, this metal gear's theme is about punished (venom) snake. (not naked snake.) the story of punished snake and what went down in it. so really it's partly from the main story, do you think? still a great story and gameplay like what you said once you have the mentality that this game is a mostly side story you would see it as an awesome story that actually helps complete some dark parts of the story (not important dark spots but it is a dark spots OF THE MAIN STORY) idk sorry for writing too much.
Honestly if you completed Paz's storyline, you'd know they explain how she, her room, and the events that happened in that room were all a hallucination.
callmewisdom I see you haven't actually looked into the story at all. Mgsv is full of story if you know it's between mgs1 and peacewalker, it also cuts a lot of loose ends and if you include mission 51 and all the tapes it's full of story. Even so there isn't much left to tell seeing how MGSV is pretty much the last game story wise. Everything is pretty much set in place unless they make more games about raiden.
I remember when I first found this channel, I was trying to either find something out or looking for secrets. Turns out I got to see both. Thanks for the tips, or else I wouldn’t be so good at the game.
I really love the MGS Series but honestly..I don´t get it anymore. I didn´t understand Phantom Pain at all. Do I have to play Peacewalker first to get some of the history/plot in Phantom Pain?
17:33 Paz dreaming about "Gallo Pinto" that is basically a meal made of rice and beans... Commonly Costaricans eat it... Que buen detalle, me gustó mucho.
Pretty sure she just shows up after you do that mission I could just enter the room at some point after someone else on youtube hinted that you should do it, btw she is at the top of the medical platform the light above the outside door is on.
After playing MGS V 4x (including capturing Saloanthropus and Huey finishing off Skull Face), i never knew you could visit Paz on the medical platform. Once I figure that out about a week ago. I felt like a complete idiot...please post more so I can discover more secrets
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Same!
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If u cive the photo many times u see a secret cutscene
Mother Base Soldier: *sees a box*
*salutes the box*
Sees a box doesn't check inside to see if anyones in there "Boss I knew you were alive" and continues to stand there for the rest of eternity because the box turns out to be empty
I know, right? Random box in the middle of the desert
"Boss! You're alive! XD"
Who wouldn’t?
*B O X*
@@stiky5972 BOSS BOX
When that soldier came to his senses from seeing Snake
made me smile
And then I remembered the mission I had to killed all my soldiers :( Spoiler I guess....
+harun öner we're all diamond dogs now
+linkbox135 That soldier wasn't Diamond Dogs. He was MSF, OG!
Jackson Holder I was making a reference to what Venom says in that mission "+harun oner" was talking about
linkbox135 Okay.
Venom Snake.
Almost dies and suffer irreversible damage to protect his friend and leader.
Forgets who he even was and is forced to live a lie.
Hallucinates that his dead friend Paz is still alive.
Falls in love with the most compatible woman he will ever meet but she leaves to save him.
Is forced to shoot his own men.
Doesn't know who he is until the end.
Gets killed by Solid Snake.
History forgets him!
Fuck man! *ENOUGH ALREADY!*
This guy died for his friend and came back to protect his friend he grieved the loss of paz he is willing to die for the real boss and proved it twice
Luxai solid snake killed him? I played all mgs games how and when did this happen
In MG 1. He's who you face.
Luxai actually solid snake doesn't kill THIS big boss
Yeah he does. The final boss of the first MG game is Venom.
A secret about Paz room is mentioned by the soldiers on the base. When 2 patrols meet each other, they have facts' discussion. Enemies usually speak about how someone like Big Boss came back around and so on.
On the base, once you have unlocked the door to Paz's room and haven't finished the series of mission, sometime, a soldier will ask the other one on the first medical platform. It's something alike to "Why does the Boss move to the platform facing south and stay there while speaking to himself?" The other answer "Don't think about it. It's one of his thing."
Yes, but that is not the exact quote
Creations Maxo The soldiers also speak about Big Boss going in the platforms without anything being in it. I think thats what the soldiers were talking about.
Dam so paz was dead got dammit kojima i still cant figure it out
Yeah, they mention him "watching over construction" too, when they talk about this. Bummed me out when I realized this, that Paz is really, truely dead.
@Venom Snek goddammit,that joke is a love deterrence.
5:38
lost soldier: I knew one day saluting to every box i see will someday payoff. All it took was 9 years...welcome back Big Box, oh i mean Big Boss
Underrated even now
Not the soldiers saluting to boxes for 9 years
So underrated comment, made me laugh a lot
That's both funny and kinda sad...
Random soldier: looks up and sees snake standing on an empty balcony talking to him self lol
thedarkknight646
Miller :BOSS have you lost your mind
Oceloy:Maybe you're not the BIG BOSS we hoped for after all
*Salutes*
You can LURE them??? Oh all the chases and getting flashbanged...
you can also use the box, and he will see you are big boss and will salute you.
+Phelyppy Lopes sorry, I didnt watched the whole video before talming that.
right I fucking hated all that
I never find it that hard tough. I always sent d dog to bite him and then run and proceed to beat the shit out of him haha
Mike Keller In my opinion beating the shit out of them is faster.
I still can't get over how the thumbnail looks like Snake getting his foot stuck in her toilet, and he's like "Maaannn"
Paz: What's the matter, Snake?
Snake: My leg stuck in this piece of GMP. I only wore my new sneaking suit once and it's already dirty
LMAO
"I stepped in a puddle.... "
Better than getting his snake stuck in there lol
Venom Snake seems like the kind of guy to eat his gummy bears one at a time, so that they die alone
*what the hell did I just read*
Nah that’s ocelot
A Random T-90 LOL exactly my reaction
What the... what did I jus witness
No, he's the guy who would eat all of them so they won't be scared or anything
Gonna admit, had no idea the soldiers would be infinitely easier to capture by just using the box.
right
you can even drop supplies on there head to knock them out
+Bloodbane2099 I dunno, supplies r expensive,, I've done it whenever I do supply drop but I rarely resupply via supply drops.. I usually call chopped and start fresh.
dude i just used the sniper waaaaaaay easy too
SuperTiberian after all it's mgs 5 logic, once you're proned, you're basically invisible
oh god i never thought a soldier from nine years to be alive and he is still loyal wow
True og
yeah
yeah
he was busy fighting unicorn zombies in a peralel universe . with the only other human beings being other msf members as his comrads
ofcourse he would still be loyal
Omer Droub ok then
Step 14 : Proving Paz Room doesn't exist.
Whoa, that's too meta for me man.
so yes or no...is Paz just a delusion of Snake? a mentally altered memory to make him feel better about failing the first time? and the whole "i give up statement" is Miller talking about Snake?
+cloud12348 She CAUSED the crash, Venom Snake, the medic, had repressed guilt over his inability to save Paz, since he only spotted one bomb, however, she awakened and leaped out of the helicopter in an attempt to save those in the chopper before her bomb exploded in mid-air, killing her instantly and wounding Kaz even further, and sending both the medic (Venom Snake), and Big Boss into a coma.
Holy shit. The supply drop even showing up in the room. Fucking Kojima.
The interior cell for that room exists but the codes are unintentionally messed up with the exterior cell - the supply drops are despawned when they hit the hitbox where the room is and appear inside, so the counter would keep spawning them until the player refreshes.
No ,there is not an interior room. Just look at the spaces.And look at the peace mark Inside the room and outside
"take care of the box and it'll take care of you." Solid Snake 2007
Tobin 2009 actually. Plant chapter was two years later
"A man is only as hard as his cargobox."
- Big boxx
5:38 he was like theres only one man that only uses a cardboard box
BIG BOSS!!!!!!!!!!!
I'm wondering if he's always saluted a cardboard box since then.
"Is it him? If not better salute anyways just in case!"
someguywithamic9 The thought makes me sad.
JollyGaming and solid snake
Big box
Only one man ever is allowed to legally use a cardboard box on the battlefield...
BIG BOSSSSS!!!!!
So if the paz room didn't exist then KOJIMA PLAYED US LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
NANOMACHINES SON
I though it was KONAMI, god dammit konami... YOU PLAYED US AND KOJIMA LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE!!!
the room really existed it just it explote brah
JT Edwards AAAAAARRRRGHHHHU
JT Edwards If paz's room doesn't exist, she died 9 years ago
That explains why some times your staff will talk about snake going into the empty construction site.
"Do you have something to show me snake?"
*snake pulls down pants*
That would make him the Naked and Solid snake at the same time.
+AsianLovePotato he's venom not solid
+Tyler Maxwell Please tell me you are aware of the joke.
Yes
+Tyler Maxwell i guess that Venom gonna cost her 9 months and 10 days in labour
“Where are the others?”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Spit it out.”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Where are the others?”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Spit it out.”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Where are the others?”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Spit it out.”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
“Where are the others?”
*”Boss! I knew you were alive!”*
And so they went on day and night, saying the same things over and over again...
Boss! I knew you were alive!
Spit It out!
Boss! I knew you were alive!
Boss! I knew you were alive!
when ur dad that left to get milk finally comes back and tells the dog to spit out that plastic bag while asking where is everyone else.
You can tell which of the people commenting haven't actually closed out this plotline. I recall the game made it fairly clear Venom Snake hallucinated the whole thing. Ocelot's hallucinated explanation of Paz's disorder applies to Venom Snake himself.
k.d.franklin can you explain please
UniteAnonymous venom snake is actually the doctor on the chopper who made surgery, he failed to notice the second explosive inside paz's womb and she died. Venom snake hallucinates every paz scene we see on the game in order to be able to cope with himself and his failure.
k.d.franklin What else in the game could be only in Venom's mind? Maybe we were played like a damn fiddle again?
Vini anônimo it wasnt in venoms mind if we didnt play as him it was in the doctors mind at this time in mgs universe the real snake is lying low in america while the doctor that got face surgery to look like snake is doing all of the work
@@Equasi Venom is the doctor. Venom Snake is what people use to refer to the doctor when he becomes "Big Boss". Venom Snake is not the same person as Naked Snake. Also he is in Africa not America :p He is building Outer Heaven.
Another hint that Paz isn't real? She mentioned Peace Day, which never happened in Peace Walker.
doesn't she have a moment with Kaz playing guitar in one of the tapes? or was it a rehearsal? it's been a while and I don't really remember
Zagardal
A rehearsal. Peace Day never happened because that was the day she hijacked ZEKE.
Have you gave her all the pictures yet? You probably want to do that first, or you may be getting some spoilers from here :P
djpokeboy
that's just the confirmation, we're talking about hints before that moment. Still, if she had actually survived, given how fucked up the situation was, I wouldn't blame her for a spotty memory regarding Peace Day.
Informative discussion. Ty all.
Holy shit, I just realised that for the first Paz scene, that the entire hallucination was Venom's brain subconsciously telling him that he's hurt and he isn't Snake.
The whole spiel of the Dissociative Amnesia and Dissociative Personality Disorder of "Denying what has happened beyond a certain point" and "thinking she's someone else" is actually directed to the player about Venom and who he actually is. Gotta love Kojima.
Valor Vanguard yeah it does but in all honesty though it was easy to know your not the real big boss from the get go because in the hospital the doctor said they couldnt remove the material that was in your head but at the end of metal gear solid 4 big boss showed up with nothing in his head
Venom Snake was killed in 1995 at the hands of Solid Snake after he destroyed the TX-55 Metal Gear. The body was obliterated in the destruction of Outer Heaven. The Real Big Boss was recovered after the fall of Zanzibarland along with Gray Fox, Snake lost all his weapons when he destroyed Metal Gear D, all he had to fight his Father was an Aerosol Spray Can and a Lighter. After Olga’s Daughter Sunny was save by the PLA (Paradise Lost Army). And they recovered Big Boss’ body in order to bring him back they donors that were his 2 dead son Liquid and Solidus. Then Solid Snakes Mutated strain of the FOX-DIE virus that killed him on top of the Tomb Stone of his Mentor The Boss. I’d do anything to fight Snakes Accelerated aging, Nano-Machines, Skull Parasites, Cyborg Body or a 3 way combination. He’s my Gaming Idol I was 4 years old when the first MGS was released on PlayStation I want Metal Gear Solid Saga to continue only Raiden’s Story 4 Years after the Fall of the SOP system. I want the Truth about SOP, The Boss’ innocence of her self-sacrifice to be proven to the whole World even if it means restarting “Les Enfant Terrible” all over again with the DNA of Everyone who supported and fought against Big Boss, Venom, Solid Snake and Raiden to create clones. Find and fully repair every single Metal Gear that was destroyed so I keep the timeline repeating in an infinite loop to create VR training simulations of all the events to produce a new generation of soldiers trained to take on future Metal Gears.
Venom Snake did not die after Metal Gear 1...Venom Snake (Big Boss): ...can you hear me? Solid Snake... I'm not dead... Someday, I'll get even with you. Someday... we will meet again!
mgsv is a story of a man taking place of a hero and slowly figuring out the truth of who they actually are
I know that Venom Snake isn't Snake Snake. But how did he aquire the amazing skills that he has?
Fun Fact: The type of butterfly shown in this video is known as a Morpho, which is the callsign used for the helicopter pilots in Ground Zeroes. You know... the one Paz died in..
Sun Zoo
Well, technically, she died out of it.
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That's really awesome that even if you pay attention to the architecture of the base you can figure out the Paz room isn't even real. Yet I never picked up on that my whole playthrough. It's just a door leading outside and he's imagining a room there on that balcony. Freaking hidden in plain sight.
When I first played this game, as soon as you're told, "You're going to need a translator to understand the Russian soliders," I thought to myself...
"But Big Boss speaks Russian fluently... This man isn't Big Boss then ; A;"
But the problem is that he got transplanted with Naked Snake's memories... How do you explain that?
***** He was brainwashed into thinking and believing he was Big Boss - he clearly wasn't taught the Russian language or there would have been no need for the interpreter at all.
He wasn't "transplanted" to have Naked Snake's memories; he was basically set to listen to mission debriefings of Big Boss' missions over the years until he subconsciously memorized them while in his coma.
The Truth tapes explain this.
@@Technical0Difficulty BUT the in-game explanation is that the horn damaged his language center
Why can't ocelot do it lmao
@@LoRdInTeRwEbS he's just not gonna do it,that's it,that's his response.
step 14 is mind blown
lmao..
damn right
If you finished the Paz side story, you get the 5th dairy where "Paz" reveals that she is only what "Big Boss" thinks she is, and that she is not real.
I finished all the missions and have a 2nd Fob and I completed like 80% of the side ops and I never knew that paz was in this game
Now you know!
+Any One well hooray!
+Thorstein Fougner Cousin let's go boiling!
+Thorstein Fougner Bowling*
Didn't you see the E3 2015 Trailer?
I like how the game tries to trick you by showing you another helicopter firing a missile to make you think Paz *is* alive. Clever, Hideo, very clever........
Yes... Literally i thought that Paz is alive because of that... but it was because Venom's hallucination...
Wait, there's a toilet in the room, does that mean if snake needed to poop, the soldiers just see him air chairing one out?
🤣🤣🤣 I so do not wanna think about that
Truly a Nuclear Man
Literally thought Pelinal himself commented this for a second
YU NEED TO TAKE A DUMP.
@@mireya0269 “A what?”
“Ah, a DOOMP.”
It's all in your mind Boss, It's all in your mind.
What's scary is that u cant scan paz with the scope or see her outlined in the thermal scope, i think the shards were causing him hallucinations
That's the point. Paz is a hallucination created by Venom's guilt as well as him trying to remember exactly who he is.
does this prove that paz is just a halucination?
Yes. Paz, the room, the conversations with Miller and Ocelot in that room, etc. All hallucinated.
You should play the game...
I love your videos. All Metal Gear Solid games are my favorite, I love MGS :) and keep up the good work
Andrés Ramírez I actually have, i just thought up until now that it was all real. Didn't even know the space behind the room was empty plot of nothing
***** thanks for clarifying that. I played the game through just need to play it again and try to be more skeptical with what I experience.
If you guys remember the mission when you go to the devil's playhouse the tent where the guards sleep to contains the same radio from P.T that plays the demonic sound.
Yes, 204863 video is here: th-cam.com/video/h1d-dBlHLcM/w-d-xo.html
I thought I was bugging when I heard it. I'm like oh shit.
***** When I first played the mission I was thinking that I would encounter something sinister. Hahaha
+Jov I was like, let me turn this light on right now. lol
***** Hahaha
Am I Really, Big Boss? .. Do I Have Amnesia...?
Your pic isn't big boss, you should change it
+Kaleb Bell
*Spoilers*
The real Big Boss/Jack/Naked Snake announces Punished Snake as "Big Boss too" at the end of Phantom Pain; so technically that is Big Boss in the picture.
Also he is one of the Big Bosses that you fight in the two original Metal Gear games (I can't remember which one it actually is, but still) (:
+SwedenTheHedgehog eh I guess
boss it's an honor
+Joethepro Gamer Its. An Honor and and a privelege for me too soldier, to meet you
I COULD HAVE LURED THE MOTHER BASE SOLDIER ALL THIS TIME?!?!?! I SPENT MY LIFE AND SOUL TRYING RO KNOCK HIM OUT AND I COULD HAVE JUST LURED HIM?!? FORGET THIS GAME IM SELLING IT
D3ATHSTR0KE well no matter how realistic metal gear may look just remember this, think outside the box, even your most comical and riddiculous solution could work.
+your one and only ex anakin I mean thinking inside the cardboard box also works...
Kojima played you like a damn fiddle...
your one and only ex anakin you should say inside the box. It is Metal Gear, after all.
People seriously have had problems with capturing the lost soldiers? I just shoot them in the head with tranq gun/sniper and bring them in lol
step14
me:jaws dropped
Also Venom’s shadow is impossible. The only light source is clearly from the window behind Paz’s bed, but the shadow is being cast from the corner near the sink, where there is no light source. The shadow is also projected in a way where it’s looming very conspicuously over Paz. Venom is of course a shadow himself.
I know I'm late but holy shit man, good catch
Paz: Do you have something to show me Snake?
Big Boss: Ah, just this Naked Snake hsssssss
The soldiers who seen that out of hallucination: Oh! So thats is the Naked Snake what I heard about...
this reminds of monsters inc when they destroyed boos door and when boo opened the door sully wasn't there it was just her closet
Paz is becoming another phantom pain for Snake now, so sad.
The moment when you see Paz betrayed Cipher for Big Boss hits you right in your heart.
Do you have something to show me snake?
*zip*
Wow a *solid snake*
Oh my God!!! From the entire time I played the game, I always was asking myself why that door leads nowhere. From the inside of Paz room there's no door in that direction and on the outside you can see the symbol of peace painted on the door. I just never put it together. Damn! Kojima does it again.
"Hey hey, YEEEEAAAAAHHHHHHH!!!"
-Mother Base soilder, 9 years ago
the horn in Venom Snake's head is probably a fragment of Paz's femur
GTR24 no its not theres a demon snake and a "angel snake" if your horn is big and spiky it means you have reached demon snakes meter killing soldiers and other bad things gives you demon points how ever if you want the horn to be little again you must do good things
nigga thats metal wtf
+Garysmithfan 14 *whoosh*
fusiontoa18 how do you know? Can big boss be certain?
It's shrapnel from the explosion, but there is teeth and bone fragments from Chico and/or Paz stuck in his body
The things this game could've been had Konkani given Kojima complete freedom..... It was amazing in the format we got it in, I can't imagine what it would've been.
Indeed, and now cocknami will milk the franchise dry and kojima can only watch, sad times.
Sad Theyre doing the next MGS + ZOMBIES Horrible
snacklepuss Yep I saw that as well. I assume the game play might be legit since they are pretty much ripping off msg:pp in that aspect but all the rest is probably the most disgusting and stereotypical franchise rape that one could imagine.
The game was so amazing as it was too. They pretty much made Kojima wrap it up and push it out. God it's such a shame we won't get another Kojima backed MGSV. He's the one that pushed so many features and so much detail into the games. But I genuinely hope Konami does good things with the series.
***** the best we can hope for is Konami tanks and maybe sells the rights to a worthy company or maybe even to whoever Kojima is with. Highly doubtful though.
You actually get more stuff from paz after you collect all of the mb soldiers, each one gives you another picture to show her. After you give her all of them then go in 1 more time for the actual secret.
That is part 2 here: th-cam.com/video/PiFbICkgr74/w-d-xo.html
+edepot pls tell me who is the best buddy and why? (best includes personal preference)
D-Dog. Marks everyone. Guards ignores or shoos him (but no alert).
paz-you have something to show me snake?
snake- * half smile *
wolf: i give up is all yours
Me: oh shit
I love the irony in the cutscene where Ocelot says “We removed them” when in fact it was venom snake before the Helicrash as the on board medic
in a REAL mgs game there would've been a codec and a 2 hour conversation about what just happened. i miss the old games
There's tapes in mgs v
Mr. Mevutrovich lol
i'd be pushing x forever lol
A real mgs Is a shit compare with the power of this .... Really the best game mgs of the complete history...in quality, history and develop
Jesus I respect and enjoy all the games they are amazing to me I know the flaws and all but I still enjoy them that's all I care is enjoying them
So Hideo Kojima did a David Lynch...
You know I'm trying to go into the Room as another DD soldier and it won't let me I think that should be a proof right there that's a delusion of venom snake
Ground Zereoes ending was a great hit for me (Paz is one of my fav. MGS characters before solid snake era, with Ocelot and Big Boss too), and when I found out that it was just an illusion was and harder pain. 😅😢
BOSS I KNEW YOU'RE ALIVE (5000000000 hours later) OMFG SAY THAT ONE MORE TIME AND- BOSS I KNEW YOU'RE ALIVE!! AAAHAHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!
@Attaker Atex I am just as confused as you are.
Kept you waiting,huh?
@@vaibhavshenoy2904 *seinfeld theme starts*
You can't normally select weapons or items but if you go in to first person mode with the INT scope, you can select your NVG and they will remain on when you leave first person mode.
Now THAT'S some freakin good attention to detail XD
Kojima is a god when it come to small details
+Jared Martin And apparently an incompetent hack when it comes to actually finishing his game.
+TheUndyingCrystal That was Konami's fault dude
+Bandicootfan63 playing "Metal gear" survive?I'm not!:)
The whole thing was a hallucination
I miss this game I wish Paz didn't leave
she never was in mother base
didn't leave died.
+JT Edwards didnt explode :v
Which caused her death so yeah.
JT Edwards haha i know xD
Realizing death of Paz is actually closely linked to Venom Snake's identity crisis, so it is actually himself trying not remembering (or being brain washed) the fact, to keep his identity as snake valid.
It’s sad games don’t do these little secret quirks and spoofs no more. Now it’s just...micro transactions and no creativity.
Game came out in 2015 lol. This isn't one of those "back then" or "games use to actually have content and give us a lot instead of dlc bullshit". Microtransactions and no creativity was already going on. It wasn't even new. This wasn't filled with it because it was a huge AAA franshise, and that stuff didn't fit in it. If you really think this was one of the last games to do something like this you must be young, naive or delusional.
All the classic games had this stuff. Mario, Zelda, Resident Evil, MGS, Final Fantasy. The games that are still loved had that extra care added.
I think Kojima left because of microtransactions and dlc disagreements.
The medic feels guilty he couldn't save Paz...
Step 14 thus proves that Diamond Dogs have figured out a way to put Paz's room inside a pocket dimension.
That red light is such a subtle tell of the harsh reality of Paz and Snake.
Whataya mean by that?
+Joaqwizzle The Titty Twizzle an immense deal of spoilers.
+Zachary Doyle oh yeah I know about those I just meant like what's the red light mean? Could it be like the light from the chopper perhaps?
+Joaqwizzle The Titty Twizzle Correct. It's the red light in the chopper.
+Joaqwizzle The Titty Twizzle This entire sequence honestly is a hint towards the big reveal at the end of the game.
6:59 I love how he is like "HEHEEEE YEAAAAAAAAAAAH!"
I discovered Paz room didn't exist by pure chance, throwing many decoys at Paz's door. Then when I left by chopper in that same platform and I saw with great surprise that the arm of the decoy could be seen through the door outside.
More of a glitch lol
love how the photos vanish after paz drops them, as if they arent *real*... the little things
I noticed that with about, the second photo that I gave her, I was like "wait, why did it disappear? Kojima you rascal", never thought about it being a hallucination until the end.
Yeah but they end up hung on the wall the next time you show up.
I'm curious to know what's the process used in order to discover such specific combination of actions needed for secrets like this one : S
Hints left by developers are easy to find. The hard secrets are those they didn't think of: th-cam.com/video/tDqOGIS023U/w-d-xo.html
***** thanks =3
Wait. What? Never mind, I give up.
He's a schizophrenic serial killer clown who says "women love his sexy smile"
Let's find out if his charm will work on Sharon
KastaRules I knew you were cool
As cool as they make 'em
+ceasormayhem101 stretch nutz is that you?
love that the soldier with the box knew what was up lol.
If you look at the wall from outside, you can see a Peace sign with "Peace" written next to it above the door. You can also see it in the "room"
i actually forgot that Tara Strong voiced Paz and this was her cameo
I never once thought that the room was fake since launch day. This totally blew my mind.
The first time I did this mission, I thought he was a puppet soldier like the Skulls because of the way he moved.
6:06 He knows about the cardboard boxes
don't forget the soldiers getting confused at why the boss spends so much time in the area under construction.
Paz: kept you waiting huh wait........ she played us LIKE A DAMN FIDDLE
After all these years I've never realized this. I mean I knew his meetings with Paz were hallucination, but this gives insight on what the mother base guards are seeing when boss is caught actually experiencing them. Awesome video.
Lol, i dont think all that is worth an endless free supply drop, but thanks for sharing something i woulda never discovered on my own.
If you think about it. Makes sense that Big Boss wouldn't hallucinate Paz or atleast Paz wont be the only Phantom he saw.
I think Venom hallucinated Student Paz who thought Peace day happened was a amalgamation of his feelings for mother base. He wanted Peace Day to happened, he wanted to go back to when times were fun and great, He wanted Paz's betrayal to never happen, and most of all, he wanted not fail at finding the other bomb. He wanted peace and Paz the student was the symbol for that yet reality began sinking in. He started remembering things as they really were. Paz was a spy for Cipher, Mother Base along with many of his comrades are gone, and that he was NOT Big Boss. Peace Day never happened nor will he get to see it.
I wonder if broadcasting different things can do cool stuff like this song can...
Every single song does something unique I think. Most are still hidden. If you notice, some songs have names in title telling you what they activate... Horse, Noon, etc
***** So if i play the one of the guy takin a shit in the outhouse (i think i found it in the honey bee mission) then they stop hunting me near there? I am evil, i know.
vader1361 Yeah, that one. But the WHOLE song list from where you got Love Deterrence, I believe does something special. I already found the secrets to some of the animal sounds here: th-cam.com/video/9EmsISiLMXc/w-d-xo.html
***** plz make video for other ones? I'm stupid.
I think that only prevents them from using the portapotty when you're inside it, though.
bro every time i rewatch this i cry. This game was just perfect.
Anyone consider that Ocelot and Miller may have set this up in order to force BB to face his own mental problems, half of what they say to him in the cutscene is pretty accurate as to his own situation, another form of controlling him or reigning in his guilt perhaps
That room is a whole hallucination though. His brain is telling him "Dude... It's not real, you didn't save her... Come on..." and so it goes with what Ocelot said. Pretty ironic.
I just realized that on wall, next to the door you enter in, is a peace sign with the words peace on it. Then at the ending cut scene the sign and words are there again to show that snake has been walking into an incomplete room this whole time.
Edepot I love your videos I'm a huge metal gear fan and I love hidden things in games and your videos are so well done thank you so much for making them
Wow even the room itself was something Venom dreamt up? That was pretty cool with the supplies
honestly after playing this game I have never felt more emotional at all from any game. This game made me want to tear up most of the time, it made me mad, it made me happy. The story was so amazing to me and I grew attached to every character. I know a lot of people were mad at the decisions made in the game, but all in all it has drawn me in to the franchise and made me want to play the many earlier titles
Yup, a close second to MGS4 as my favorite.
gameplay wise it was right beside 4, story wise...it did worse than Acid..
+Quartz 4 sucked imo
what? i mean everyone is entitled to his own opinion, but i think that game had a cool story, or stories should i say?
with a lot of the story concerning characters from the series explaining not much from the general story, but telling good/great emotional stories from it's characters.
you know what i mean?
also you should really see it this way, this metal gear's theme is about punished (venom) snake. (not naked snake.)
the story of punished snake and what went down in it.
so really it's partly from the main story, do you think?
still a great story and gameplay like what you said
once you have the mentality that this game is a mostly side story you would see it as an awesome story that actually helps complete some dark parts of the story (not important dark spots but it is a dark spots OF THE MAIN STORY)
idk sorry for writing too much.
After a year of this in my recomended i finally clicked on it.
And finally you know the true awesomeness of edepot
edepot yeah lol😅
Honestly if you completed Paz's storyline, you'd know they explain how she, her room, and the events that happened in that room were all a hallucination.
no way sherlock?
MGSV one of favourite games, Never knew about Paz’s room, please keep revealing the good stuff Thankyou 👍
Weird how i got the same cutscene just by visiting paz after twenty side missions. The butterfly scene prevents me from entering it again however.
This video has the same definition of how I think of my friends.
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*There gone, and I just pretend to have them*
As if the story in mgsV wasn't thin enough, they even hid parts of the litte that is there.
Dude the story is awesome
callmewisdom I see you haven't actually looked into the story at all. Mgsv is full of story if you know it's between mgs1 and peacewalker, it also cuts a lot of loose ends and if you include mission 51 and all the tapes it's full of story. Even so there isn't much left to tell seeing how MGSV is pretty much the last game story wise. Everything is pretty much set in place unless they make more games about raiden.
@@kole2993 I need a Revengeance sequel badly
@@kole2993 MGS V was my best Unfinished Game, at least before Cyberpunk 2077 (but still one of the best Game I ever play)
I remember when I first found this channel, I was trying to either find something out or looking for secrets. Turns out I got to see both. Thanks for the tips, or else I wouldn’t be so good at the game.
I really love the MGS Series but honestly..I don´t get it anymore. I didn´t understand Phantom Pain at all. Do I have to play Peacewalker first to get some of the history/plot in Phantom Pain?
If you listen to the tapes in Ground Zeros you can get the gist, but it really is better to play Peacewalker first.
The Consolian u do. He met paz in peace Walker. And peace Walker had a good story too. Definitely worth playing.
You won't really understand anything if you haven't played all the parts starting with PS1 (or better yet, Komador)
17:33 Paz dreaming about "Gallo Pinto" that is basically a meal made of rice and beans... Commonly Costaricans eat it... Que buen detalle, me gustó mucho.
beat the game long time ago and don't know that the room itself is an illusion untill I watched this video.
Kojima 1: me 0
I think the first cutscene where ocelot talks about paz's mental disorders is actually a direct reference to the state of venom snakes mind
Damn I already finished SideOps 51. Do you have to do it that way?
Pretty sure she just shows up after you do that mission I could just enter the room at some point after someone else on youtube hinted that you should do it, btw she is at the top of the medical platform the light above the outside door is on.
+Erik Hoevenberg That's right and you even unlock a new cutscene with every ex-Soldier you extract!
pSyk Thanks I didn't know you got the pictures that way.
Well I justed finished the "Quest-Line" with all 10 side-ops and it's amazing. The cutscenes was better than most of the main story line!
no need to do it that way. just retrieve the wandering mother base soldier using any method and you will get the pictures. vid is useless.
After playing MGS V 4x (including capturing Saloanthropus and Huey finishing off Skull Face), i never knew you could visit Paz on the medical platform. Once I figure that out about a week ago. I felt like a complete idiot...please post more so I can discover more secrets
What?!? You can use the song??? I always just punched the crap out of them... man I could've saved some time.
but i shot them in the ballz so they can't get up and get in the mother base with a shitted pant
Wish I knew about playing that song spent ages chasing that mother base soldier around
They really should have called this game snake's legacy