RIM AND FACE ALIGNMENT FORMULA METHOD | ENGLISH | Rotating and Static Equipments

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  • TOPICS EXPLAINED: RIM AND FACE ALIGNMENT FORMULA METHOD COMPLETE PROCEDURE AND DEMONSTRATION WITH EXAMPLE READINGS.
    PRE-ALIGNMENT PROCEDURES, STRAIGHT EDGE METHOD, SOFT FOOT, BAR SAG, VERTICAL MOVEMENT FORMULA, HORIZONTAL MOVEMENT FORMULA, ALIGNMENT CALCULATION. ALIGNMENT CORRECTIONS, CRISS CROSS TIGHTENING PROCEDURES.
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  • @bugbo6003
    @bugbo6003 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Easy to understand. Good clip.
    THX

  • @ariestaufik3943
    @ariestaufik3943 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Thank you for the explanation

  • @sodisettyprabhakar4991
    @sodisettyprabhakar4991 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    🙏🙏🙏🙏 Good explanation it will help a lot to the rotating equipment developing Profesionals 🙏🙏🙏🙏

  • @prakashmayyak9916
    @prakashmayyak9916 ปีที่แล้ว

    Superb explanation dear.
    Thank you.

  • @fatehdemouche7637
    @fatehdemouche7637 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    There is a mistale my friend in vertical correction :
    +add shims
    -remove shims

  • @rasetech
    @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Friends,
    Recently I have uploaded tamil version of this video in our channel. Kindly please check it out. Thank you.
    th-cam.com/video/3qZK73sU5Wk/w-d-xo.html

  • @bahadrbay1334
    @bahadrbay1334 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Thank you teacher❤

  • @FaizalKhan-pr6ic
    @FaizalKhan-pr6ic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thankyou very much sir.

  • @diptikantaray3389
    @diptikantaray3389 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very nice explanation for allotment job 👍👍

  • @bala3181
    @bala3181 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks bro teaching in English

  • @venkataraoreddy3624
    @venkataraoreddy3624 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you sir.🙏

  • @rasetech
    @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Dear Friends,
    Recently I have uploaded Hindi version of this video in our channel. Kindly please check it out. Thank you.
    th-cam.com/video/8xeIqVVPFN4/w-d-xo.html

  • @user-vj1io7ly7y
    @user-vj1io7ly7y 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Very useful sir, please keep up downloading more videos regarding Shaft alignment with English explanations.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your support. Thanks for checking out my channel.

  • @caslor2002
    @caslor2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi. thanks for the video but i would like to make 3 questions.
    1) where is the distance of the couplings calculated in the formula? as i could see you dont need that diamension to calculate the shims, right?
    2) instead of using the stationary machine shaft to mount the dial indicators can i use the the movable machines shaft? if so should i look anything in the formula results? (inverted numbers etc)
    3) Should i rotate both shafts when i make the procedure to take the measurements? or just only the one shaft that the dial indicator is mounded it?
    i have an application that should proceed the rim and face method but the stationary machine has a drum style end and there is no easy point to mount my dial indicators.

  • @jovelletulfo3602
    @jovelletulfo3602 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is it possible to convert face and rim indicator readings to reverse alignment indicator readings or vice versa? If possible how?

  • @mamunmahbub395
    @mamunmahbub395 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Do you have another formula by using dial indicators for this?

  • @moneeshkdpp1
    @moneeshkdpp1 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks bro

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Welcome bro

  • @user-ok9oz3wk5x
    @user-ok9oz3wk5x 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Many thanks for the great explanation!
    I have one concern, in 6:45, did you mean we have to rotate the shaft from 12 to 6 o clock and then zero face indicator and adjust rim indicator at -0.04?
    Then rotate shaft to 12 o'clock and taking the reading?
    Thanks,

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes brother...

  • @bossjerometechshow
    @bossjerometechshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Salamat in Philippines means thank you...it will help me more

  • @joshuaandreason7450
    @joshuaandreason7450 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Question ! My coworkers always taught me since I began this trade to set the fixture on the moveable and the indicators onto the pump . Does that alter the readings what so ever ? It seems to have always worked for us and brought us with 1 thousandth

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      I didn't understand your question bro. You can set the dial on pump coupling and take reading according to the same you can correct it. it is upto you and understanding. that it. bro

  • @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121
    @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hi sir....good video...but i hv one question...regarding on the clockwise position...is it we refer from motor side or pump site...i mean the position we standing...tq

  • @prosenjitshow3437
    @prosenjitshow3437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you I'm waiting for english version.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You are most welcome...

    • @balenolegacy9839
      @balenolegacy9839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sir about the value you make +0.06. As i know the valu usually like 250, 280 something like that

  • @zaend2195
    @zaend2195 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    What is the formula of radial misalignment at coupling is that = TIRF/A *100 ?

  • @invisible7790
    @invisible7790 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Kindly make video on reverse alignment

  • @lokeshrathod749
    @lokeshrathod749 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Nice explaination but I have one doubt
    Can we find both virtical and horizontal reading at only once set dial indicators on rim and face

  • @varijakshann.p.4168
    @varijakshann.p.4168 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It is really helpful vedio. Can you share the calculation method for revverse alignment thank you

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you ❤

  • @manikandanmadhuvappan8166
    @manikandanmadhuvappan8166 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Sir some couplings come without space directly coupled how to do alignment for those couplings please put videos for how to do alignment for those couplings, jaw couplings

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yes we need to prepare special fixtures set for those direct couplings.

  • @rizwankhan4504
    @rizwankhan4504 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bar sag value . Is bothe bothe saft rotat togather 0 to 180 ?

  • @abdulrahmankhalid6396
    @abdulrahmankhalid6396 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much it was great explanation,
    can please you send the pdf or post it so that we can download
    because it will be easier to do it with these papers.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Dear Sir,
      I kept these papers in my home now I am in abroad. So Now I cant able to send these soft copy to you... apologize for the same. even I want to search the related papers from my room. You can take notes from the video or you can take screen shot. Thank you for understanding ❤

  • @shahidmehmood6981
    @shahidmehmood6981 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Waiting for Rim&Face graph alignment

  • @FaizalKhan-pr6ic
    @FaizalKhan-pr6ic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Sir,One more question if you allow- During FFH & BFH-shifting After having reading FFH-0.08 mm & BFH- 0.48 mm respectively when I Shift the motor from Front side 0.08 mm at the same time the back foot dial indicator also move little bit my question is can we include those shifting difference under obtained resultant BFH shifting reading - 0.48 mm or we add this difference+ 0.48 mm? & Grinding the base bolt for motor movement if motor base hole touches the bolt and doesn't allow to move further is good or bad?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      very good question. I appreciate it. First we need to correct higher value. So BFH is bigger value rather than FFH. So we need to correct BFH and at the same we need to monitor on FFH side also. While adjusting BFH, FFH will reduce automatically when it is reach required target we need to hand tight and touch the FFH opposite side jack bolt. then again continue with BFH to reach our target. I hope you understand this. Still if you have doubt. please let me know. All the best❤

    • @FaizalKhan-pr6ic
      @FaizalKhan-pr6ic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rasetech Thank you sir my pleasure.

  • @ThePOLO649
    @ThePOLO649 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Good Video, I would like to know, What happens if we cannot rotating the shaft of Station machinery (compressor cannot rotate)
    We set alignment bar at motor side and Rotate shaft of motor only , this method and formula still complied or not?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      You can. but you cant eliminate the runout of shaft or coupling if presents in the machine. and you will not get the exact reading. it will be increased or decreased due to runout.

    • @anilkumar-xe5mh
      @anilkumar-xe5mh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rasetech I would like to speak to you regarding one on one training, could you please let me your contact email address.. my email id: kumar0369k@gmail.com, thanks.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@anilkumar-xe5mh prakashmagalingam2020@gmail.com

  • @RamBabu-ev9wl
    @RamBabu-ev9wl ปีที่แล้ว

    👍

  • @Sayeed7
    @Sayeed7 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When this method is used?

  • @jitheshk2845
    @jitheshk2845 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why we are checking RIM bar sag only??and is it necessary to take sag value at 3'o clock and 9'o clock???

  • @jaimaladevi7167
    @jaimaladevi7167 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir Hindi me bhi upload Karo plz

  • @menjuhpatiluna1593
    @menjuhpatiluna1593 ปีที่แล้ว

    Rotate 360° sir? Or 180° only? Thanks for reply.

  • @SenthilKumar-eg4if
    @SenthilKumar-eg4if 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    What is the formula for clamp fixing in the motor and dial fixing the gearbox coupling?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      all are same formula only.

    • @SenthilKumar-eg4if
      @SenthilKumar-eg4if 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      as per your dial setting from 6 o'clock to 12 o'clock and if getting reading +0.2 but if I setting dial from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock should be applied formula -0.2 ?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes only we need to change the sign. as per your setting if ans is plus then add shim if minus means remove shim. that it brother.

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    @panjayaththuthalaivar886 ปีที่แล้ว +1

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    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  ปีที่แล้ว

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  • @shariquemallik5931
    @shariquemallik5931 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please upload every videos in your channel in English also....it’s a request

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment. Well noted.

  • @pushpendrasingh-ky7sf
    @pushpendrasingh-ky7sf 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What is bar sag and why it is required. We are rotating rim dial indicator on a shaft, suppose that shaft has some surface irregularity then dial will show some false reading. Please help Anna to solve this confusion.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Dear Brother,
      For bar sag I have uploaded a video. here we go.
      th-cam.com/video/BjaKWIZXVWQ/w-d-xo.html

  • @aldorrymiftakaruna1264
    @aldorrymiftakaruna1264 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    On the 6:36 how much we rotate the shaft to get the R and F value? Is it rotate full 360° ?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      No its 180 degree...

    • @aldorrymiftakaruna1264
      @aldorrymiftakaruna1264 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rasetech thanks sir, and how about coupling spacer value, when we use it?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@aldorrymiftakaruna1264 you should measure distance between shaft end for reference and it will use while doing refixing of coupling spacer.

  • @dineshsahu7859
    @dineshsahu7859 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Brother you are doing good job . keep it up. Can i contact you. I also working in fertilizer plant.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you very much bro ❤

    • @arunpandian6914
      @arunpandian6914 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bro can I get your number

    • @dineshsahu7859
      @dineshsahu7859 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@arunpandian6914 7869724553

  • @mutharasu2482
    @mutharasu2482 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro reverse alignments video pls upload Bro.

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Already uploaded bro. Kindly check it out.

  • @mukeshkumar-ni6wx
    @mukeshkumar-ni6wx 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    sir please make a video on FACE TO FACE alinment ,please.....

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I will do it. Sure but it will take sometimes. Please wait and stay tuned sir. Sorry for delay...

  • @FaizalKhan-pr6ic
    @FaizalKhan-pr6ic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sir,Is it necessary to put Radial and Axial Guage together at only 12'o clock position ?. if I fix Radial Guage at 12'o clock and Axial dial guage at 6'o clock will it help me with Rim and face formula method. Thank you

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      If you are doing practical alignment. and there is not provision to fix axial dial with same position. You can fix 6o clock position. Then Individually you can take readings for radial and axial dials. If you are using formula. Then we need to follow same procedure to obtain perfect values. Thank you....❤

    • @FaizalKhan-pr6ic
      @FaizalKhan-pr6ic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@rasetech Thank you sir

  • @Quy_Tran64
    @Quy_Tran64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Which side should the clock be placed? placed on the pump side gives a different value. placed on the motor side gives a different value. very large number. looking forward to the answer

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  ปีที่แล้ว

      Its depends upon your convenient. Follow any one side. dont make things difficult. It will confuse you... Make the pump fixed machine always. and fix the dial clamps fixtures in the pump coupling. and Fix the dial indicators in Motor coupling. if It is large machine and motor having journal bearings. Please check Rim and Double axial Alignment method or reverse dial Indicating alignment. Dont use normal rim and face alignment.

    • @Quy_Tran64
      @Quy_Tran64 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rasetech thank. do you have any exact documentation about it. i want to understand more

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  ปีที่แล้ว

      @@Quy_Tran64 Very sorry I dont have any documents. I am giving this information from my working experience and knowledge. I think you can go through it with your equipment OEM manual to confirm the same. You will get exact reference from there.

  • @surajchoudhary8833
    @surajchoudhary8833 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hlo sir 2 axial ka calculation bataye

  • @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121
    @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    hi Sir ,a very good video for me...i hv one question at measurement C...is it we measure from center of dial rim or only center of B bolts..tq

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Measurement C is distance between motor Front foot and back foot bolt center. Its center of base bolts.

    • @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121
      @kamarulzamankamaruddin7121 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@rasetech
      Another question sir
      Do we start the dial gauge from 12 o'clock to 6 o'clock...and if we do alternately it will giving different value...am I correct?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yes It will remains same value but sign will change

  • @shantarampatil7562
    @shantarampatil7562 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    How much pressure should be given to dial gauge before starting reading taking

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You can give upto 4 to 5 mm

  • @balenolegacy9839
    @balenolegacy9839 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I dont understand about bar sag value? Please explain

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Already expained cleared please go through it...❤

  • @welfareofhuman4678
    @welfareofhuman4678 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello sir, I request you to make video of making alignment and taking measurements and how you fit dial clamp in making horizontal moves.

  • @nirmalnr689
    @nirmalnr689 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is bar sag value is common?

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Bar sag is common... but bar sag values will be different...

  • @rizwankhan4504
    @rizwankhan4504 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bar sag ye keya hota hai . Pleas make video

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your video.. Please see this Hindi version for more clarification...
      th-cam.com/video/8xeIqVVPFN4/w-d-xo.html

  • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
    @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro formula ethum use pannama vara reading ah ?÷2 pottu pannalaama..

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Rim reading ku applicable bro but face reading ku not applicable bro.

    • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
      @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Aana inga plant la formula yaarum use panrathu illa bro.. rim and face kum.. ÷2 than pottu panranga.. aana accurate ah varathu rompa time aagum

    • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
      @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Nenga podura videos nalla helpfull ah iruku bro..

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@rajeshrajerajesh2691 formula use panni try pannunga time save

    • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
      @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ok bro

  • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
    @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Bro gas turbines ah pathium video podunga bro..

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Podalam bro konjam wait pannunga na one by one poduranga bro konjam time edukum kandippa poduranga bro

    • @rajeshrajerajesh2691
      @rajeshrajerajesh2691 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Romba thanks bro..

  • @kanhumohanty4698
    @kanhumohanty4698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sir ak problem he

  • @silentman7546
    @silentman7546 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meaning of 12" clock and 6" clock

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      12 o clock means top position. 6 o clock means bottom position.

  • @kanhumohanty4698
    @kanhumohanty4698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please

  • @Lloyd-gm4zr
    @Lloyd-gm4zr 11 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Not enough explaination....for horizontal movement is very common sense....the problem is how to find the axial correct alignment

  • @kanhumohanty4698
    @kanhumohanty4698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Aap ke sat bata karna he

  • @dhavalrana8692
    @dhavalrana8692 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Please sir this video sent me in Hindi

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Hindi version also available
      th-cam.com/video/8xeIqVVPFN4/w-d-xo.html

  • @markdetorres9601
    @markdetorres9601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My friend your computation is wrong
    1.0666-0.15=0.9166

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment... dear sir its not plus. Its -1.0666... kindly check F dial and R dial reading... that I have mentioned clearly... this is for your kind information...

  • @SaravanaKumar-gg6ic
    @SaravanaKumar-gg6ic 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    சார் உங்கள் போன் நம்பர் வேண்டும்

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Facebook page la chat pannalam mail id la contact pannalam. Number yen keakuringa sir... number venum na membership la join pannunga adhula number irukunga sir...

  • @markdetorres9601
    @markdetorres9601 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Even this 0.2666-0.15=0.1166
    Don't teaching wrong..because all guy us expecting wright ur computation

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your comment... dear sir its not plus. Its -0.2666... kindly check F dial and R dial reading... that I have mentioned clearly... this is for your kind information...

  • @rickshipper2002
    @rickshipper2002 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Cant understand him use A American

  • @rotatingandstaticequipment2611
    @rotatingandstaticequipment2611 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice

    • @rasetech
      @rasetech  3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you ❤

  • @kanhumohanty4698
    @kanhumohanty4698 ปีที่แล้ว

    Please