Entertainment is the key to success. You, my friend, are entertaining. If advice is what I am searching for, the Canyon is where I will find it. Thank you!
Being a Crawler Canyon fan and only having 1/24th scale rigs makes it quite difficult to apply a lot of the tire teachings we all so happily soak up from your testing, but Traxxas released a 1.0 version of the Canyon Trail which I'm oddly tempted to try out and see how they do. Jconcepts makes 1.0 Tusks (in Gold compound), which I was only able to find in stock pre-glued to plastic rims... after hours of inhaling too much CA debonder I learned how excellent of a tire the Tusk really is... just to find out that Jconcepts released 1.0 Tusks in their Green compound and that Amain had the tires by themselves in stock... So I now own two sets of Tusks and can't wait to try out the ones that don't have half destroyed beads lmao. Keep up the great content!
I modded the "control" set of Grabbers and had the Bushido owner try them out-- I asked, how much of an improvement? He said, "Oh, 100%. Like a different tire."
The pronunciation was correct the first time 😀 You were right those wheels look fantastic on Baseline. The Grabbers did much better than I thought they would, I guess some things you read on the internet are true. Some claim they do great after a break in period (uncut) , so its going to be interesting to see how they are in the future.
@@Br0rB Regardless of a Norwegian pronunciation or how I was taught, no one ever gets it right anyway. Most people butcher it 🤣and always spell it wrong, s.o.n instead of s.e.n. I'm used to it after 42 year's and it doesn't bother me, at least my first name is easy unlike my wife who's name should be easy but everyone always fumbles it.
@@Steve_J81 I hear ya. If you were in Norway, you would pronounce it with a thinner J sound and a harder R. Naturally it changes when jumping across the pond. 😊 I have a first name, Kjetil, that is easy for Norwegians, of course, but even going to Sweden they get it completely wrong. My wife and I lived in Australia for 3,5 years while going to uni years ago, and every day brought with it a new way for the aussies to completely butcher my name. It's the Kj-sound non-Norwegians just can't seem to figure out. 😂
I just found this. I took just a slightly different approach, I actually cut the small lug every other row on both sides, and where I left the small lug, I simply cut at that sipe to separate the two. I also cut the side lugs in a different spot on the top, not there on the side like you did. Maybe I will add a cut there.
I modded my General Grabbers too and ran them on my Vanquish Phoenix and it made a world of difference, but I cut more than you did. I cut the same on the middle but instead of siping, I cut every other lug off the outside. I'm interested to see how your modded version does. I gotta say I'm glad I stumbled across your channel because it's definitely one of the first go to's for a crawler question I need answered lol!
If you didn't put on a great show, "sorta speak"....you wouldn't get the viewer support you do. I speak for everyone when I say you do put on a great show!
Hey, been really enjoying your videos since stumbling across the channel a few weeks ago, you put in so much effort and it shows! Thanks I’m in the uk and have a set of Grabbers that I’d like to get more out of. The rocks here are almost always at least damp and at worst wet. Everything is surrounded by muddy dirt. Nothing like your sweet course. What, if any thing, would you do differently if tuning these tires to my uk terrain? Thanks!
I would say maybe take off the big inner lug instead of the smaller down the center, and I would probably completely remove every other bar on the outside to help with mud clearance. The Canyon Trail would probably have the performance advantage over the Grabber on your terrain, but the Grabber will certainly do a lot better when cut.
I have a set of Grabbers that I tried a couple times. Someone like me has sets of other nice tires like Tusks, Krawlers and Landmines. I'd love to try the cut tires, but I have this bias that they'll still not be as good as a Tusk or Hold. How do your dead ringers fair against your other favorite tires? Also I love PBS. Nova has been a favorite show of mine for years. Are you the RC Crawling Nova? Perhaps!
The Dead Ringers are all-conditions beasts. They literally perform the same in wet, dry, dusty, doesn't matter. Side hilling is ridiculous. But... BUT... if you put the double buns in a set of Tusks, it's gonna be just a little bit better. Because compound does indeed make a difference. It's when we think about how "basher-esque" the compound of a Canyon Trail is, that it's performance is genuinely surprising. The cut Grabbers are real good-- I offered the second cut set (on the stock foams) to the Bushido owner to try, and he said he can't give 'em back, they're just too good. I think the crux here is that I'm certainly not recommending anyone go out and buy a fresh set of Grabbers to tune 'em up. I feel like a whole lot of people have them lying around unused, and they can be made to be pretty darn good for nearly nothing.
I just have the set from my buddy's JLU, as my Capra was originally built from a kit-- no tires. The Grapplers have always felt to me about the same as a stock Grabber-- uninspiring at best. I need to source another set to cut up. The others are the in-house "stock tire" for comparison purposes, as every other tire here is either cut up, or aftermarket.
My Capra was built as a kit, so I didn't get any Grapplers with it. I only have one set of them, from when the Colonel was still a JLU. I don't know how much the Grapplers would improve, as they're not a super tight lug-- but I might have to look around for another set to cut up.
My kids are big into it-- both anime and manga. I can't get into the crazy long, bazillion episode stuff like One Piece. I bought that Luffy for my oldest at Anime Expo a few years back, and he just put it on a shelf. So I took it back. As far as me, it's just anime-- and my first exposure to it came via Cartoon Network's Adult Swim in the '90s, unless you count the whole Macross Saga (Robotech) which my 12 year old self thought was just the coolest shit ever-- but Adult Swim brought me Trigun, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and my favorite anime of all time, Cowboy Bebop. The common thread there being that they all only ran like 25 episodes. I do like One Punch Man, though.
@@CrawlerCanyon I started reading One piece 18 years ago. It's more popular now than ever. Weekly chapter is nice but super short. It's read in 5 minutes.
@@CrawlerCanyon The Trigun reboot looks interesting. Its a shame Netflix butchered the Cowboy Bebop live action adoption. Bleach on Adult Swim is what pulled me into the anime world.
I have been contemplating ordering another bottle. I have more than a few tires I would like to see do you know... better. Like the Rock Beasts, for instance.
bosch clutch set at 7 that is way too much for such small screw threads no matter what materials they are made out of. You will strip the thread in time. you do not need 7 to hold them together. you can look up machinist table where the max torque is listed per screw size and material types.
I have conservatively assembled... 300 sets of beadlocks using that exact method and have in that time stripped out maybe... half a dozen screws? As a typical bolt-face beadlock with SLW has 108 screws in it, I don't think it's a problem. But what do I know.
Entertainment is the key to success. You, my friend, are entertaining. If advice is what I am searching for, the Canyon is where I will find it. Thank you!
If Crawley Canyon is PBS, then you are the wheelin Bob Ross. Happy little crawlers...
I do love your videos and explanations. Yes, the vids are a little long but love them. Keep it up.
Being a Crawler Canyon fan and only having 1/24th scale rigs makes it quite difficult to apply a lot of the tire teachings we all so happily soak up from your testing, but Traxxas released a 1.0 version of the Canyon Trail which I'm oddly tempted to try out and see how they do. Jconcepts makes 1.0 Tusks (in Gold compound), which I was only able to find in stock pre-glued to plastic rims... after hours of inhaling too much CA debonder I learned how excellent of a tire the Tusk really is... just to find out that Jconcepts released 1.0 Tusks in their Green compound and that Amain had the tires by themselves in stock... So I now own two sets of Tusks and can't wait to try out the ones that don't have half destroyed beads lmao. Keep up the great content!
Well, looks like I'm buying some cutters and modifying my Grabbers this weekend. Love the approach and thought process of all your videos.
I modded the "control" set of Grabbers and had the Bushido owner try them out-- I asked, how much of an improvement? He said, "Oh, 100%. Like a different tire."
I have been hand cutting rtr tires for ages, axial trepadors in r35 hand cut were my go to tire surpised more then a few people on the rocks
The pronunciation was correct the first time 😀 You were right those wheels look fantastic on Baseline. The Grabbers did much better than I thought they would, I guess some things you read on the internet are true. Some claim they do great after a break in period (uncut) , so its going to be interesting to see how they are in the future.
As a Norwegian, I'd like to, politely mind you, disagree. Jørgensen, or Jorgensen, isn't pronounced like that. ;)
@@Br0rB MURICA!!!! 🤣
@@Steve_J81 NURWEGIA! Wait, that sounds strange. 😂
@@Br0rB Regardless of a Norwegian pronunciation or how I was taught, no one ever gets it right anyway. Most people butcher it 🤣and always spell it wrong, s.o.n instead of s.e.n. I'm used to it after 42 year's and it doesn't bother me, at least my first name is easy unlike my wife who's name should be easy but everyone always fumbles it.
@@Steve_J81 I hear ya. If you were in Norway, you would pronounce it with a thinner J sound and a harder R. Naturally it changes when jumping across the pond. 😊
I have a first name, Kjetil, that is easy for Norwegians, of course, but even going to Sweden they get it completely wrong.
My wife and I lived in Australia for 3,5 years while going to uni years ago, and every day brought with it a new way for the aussies to completely butcher my name. It's the Kj-sound non-Norwegians just can't seem to figure out. 😂
I just found this. I took just a slightly different approach, I actually cut the small lug every other row on both sides, and where I left the small lug, I simply cut at that sipe to separate the two. I also cut the side lugs in a different spot on the top, not there on the side like you did. Maybe I will add a cut there.
I modded my General Grabbers too and ran them on my Vanquish Phoenix and it made a world of difference, but I cut more than you did. I cut the same on the middle but instead of siping, I cut every other lug off the outside. I'm interested to see how your modded version does. I gotta say I'm glad I stumbled across your channel because it's definitely one of the first go to's for a crawler question I need answered lol!
If you didn't put on a great show, "sorta speak"....you wouldn't get the viewer support you do.
I speak for everyone when I say you do put on a great show!
Rock pirates cut every other lug on outside lugs and ended up kinda like swamper! 😊
Hey, been really enjoying your videos since stumbling across the channel a few weeks ago, you put in so much effort and it shows! Thanks
I’m in the uk and have a set of Grabbers that I’d like to get more out of. The rocks here are almost always at least damp and at worst wet. Everything is surrounded by muddy dirt. Nothing like your sweet course.
What, if any thing, would you do differently if tuning these tires to my uk terrain? Thanks!
I would say maybe take off the big inner lug instead of the smaller down the center, and I would probably completely remove every other bar on the outside to help with mud clearance. The Canyon Trail would probably have the performance advantage over the Grabber on your terrain, but the Grabber will certainly do a lot better when cut.
@@CrawlerCanyon thanks for that. Think I’ll start with the inner lugs and see how it goes. I can always cut more off but I can’t put them back on!
I have a set of Grabbers that I tried a couple times. Someone like me has sets of other nice tires like Tusks, Krawlers and Landmines. I'd love to try the cut tires, but I have this bias that they'll still not be as good as a Tusk or Hold. How do your dead ringers fair against your other favorite tires?
Also I love PBS. Nova has been a favorite show of mine for years. Are you the RC Crawling Nova? Perhaps!
The Dead Ringers are all-conditions beasts. They literally perform the same in wet, dry, dusty, doesn't matter. Side hilling is ridiculous. But... BUT... if you put the double buns in a set of Tusks, it's gonna be just a little bit better. Because compound does indeed make a difference. It's when we think about how "basher-esque" the compound of a Canyon Trail is, that it's performance is genuinely surprising.
The cut Grabbers are real good-- I offered the second cut set (on the stock foams) to the Bushido owner to try, and he said he can't give 'em back, they're just too good. I think the crux here is that I'm certainly not recommending anyone go out and buy a fresh set of Grabbers to tune 'em up. I feel like a whole lot of people have them lying around unused, and they can be made to be pretty darn good for nearly nothing.
U got a sub from me, made me smile in the first minute ☺ I like you
Got any nitto trail grapplers off a capra? I'd be interested to see those cut. I thought they were pretty terrible out of the box.
I just have the set from my buddy's JLU, as my Capra was originally built from a kit-- no tires. The Grapplers have always felt to me about the same as a stock Grabber-- uninspiring at best. I need to source another set to cut up. The others are the in-house "stock tire" for comparison purposes, as every other tire here is either cut up, or aftermarket.
Is there a vid explaining the double bun more in depth? I'm genuinely curious about this.
Sure is: th-cam.com/video/ZQiax-MfT_A/w-d-xo.html
@@CrawlerCanyon much appreciated thank you for sharing all your experiences and experiments sir.
What can yo do to make the Vanquish kit Vxs work? Great vid.
I have to find a different foam, for sure. The included foam hasn't worked with ANY rig, at ANY time.
Awsomeness!
Can u try the hair bun with dual stage in the pit bull rock beast
I did! The Rock Beasts got better, but were still worse than either Canyon Trails or Grabbers. I can't explain it.
is there another oem tire that can be improved this way ,or can your Capra do better on double bun CT ?
My Capra was built as a kit, so I didn't get any Grapplers with it. I only have one set of them, from when the Colonel was still a JLU. I don't know how much the Grapplers would improve, as they're not a super tight lug-- but I might have to look around for another set to cut up.
@@CrawlerCanyon I mean if you can't find any I might be able to help 🤔I had a specific look for my JLU so the Grapplers came off the day I got it.
The real question is: Anime or Manga?
Akira, Ninja Scroll & Ghost in the Shell top my list of favorites.
@@toeshifter he's got Luffy sitting there on the bench.
My kids are big into it-- both anime and manga. I can't get into the crazy long, bazillion episode stuff like One Piece. I bought that Luffy for my oldest at Anime Expo a few years back, and he just put it on a shelf. So I took it back. As far as me, it's just anime-- and my first exposure to it came via Cartoon Network's Adult Swim in the '90s, unless you count the whole Macross Saga (Robotech) which my 12 year old self thought was just the coolest shit ever-- but Adult Swim brought me Trigun, Neon Genesis Evangelion, and my favorite anime of all time, Cowboy Bebop. The common thread there being that they all only ran like 25 episodes.
I do like One Punch Man, though.
@@CrawlerCanyon I started reading One piece 18 years ago. It's more popular now than ever. Weekly chapter is nice but super short. It's read in 5 minutes.
@@CrawlerCanyon The Trigun reboot looks interesting. Its a shame Netflix butchered the Cowboy Bebop live action adoption. Bleach on Adult Swim is what pulled me into the anime world.
Time for Monster Grip? Grip Grabbers?
I have been contemplating ordering another bottle. I have more than a few tires I would like to see do you know... better. Like the Rock Beasts, for instance.
Lol I hear ya on beadlocks
I did 4 more sets today, just to make sure not a day goes by without beadlockin'.
bosch clutch set at 7 that is way too much for such small screw threads no matter what materials they are made out of. You will strip the thread in time. you do not need 7 to hold them together. you can look up machinist table where the max torque is listed per screw size and material types.
I have conservatively assembled... 300 sets of beadlocks using that exact method and have in that time stripped out maybe... half a dozen screws? As a typical bolt-face beadlock with SLW has 108 screws in it, I don't think it's a problem. But what do I know.
Have you considered modding some of the more disappointing aftermarket tires?
P.S. Please don't ruin the Hustlers.
I feel like I'm gonna have to cut the Scalers and the Rock Beasts, because the Rock Beasts just don't work here.