As someone who grew up with an alcoholic parent, i find this show's representation extremely accurate. I lived through very similar situations from the "you become a bad persone when you drink" to Clay's monologue about his addiction.
Agreed, oh my God a g r e e d . I remember saying the exact thing to my dad when I was a kid! He was always so defensive when I brought up his drinking, too so I think that's accurate
It's one of those things "you become a bad person when you drink" but they know they become a bad person and they still continue to drink, because drinking is more important to them then even attempting to get better.
@@Nyghtking well alcohol numbs the pain for a lot of people, why they drink it so much. Sometimes its not that they dont wanna change, but just dont know how, most of them dont even believe their an alcoholic
To make matters worse with this scene, right before Clay shot Orel he was talking about how there are no accidents, implying to Orel that he meant to shoot him. And also the fact that he wouldn't accept that he shot him the later morning, but accepted instantly that he killed the bear, the thing he didn't even actually do
Yeah I love that quick turn around. "I don't remember doing it so it mustn't have happened." "I shot a bear? I don't remember but it must have happened." Then the lie becomes "a bear shot Orel."
Follow up: i do believe that he didn't remember being blackout drunk and all. But I wonder if he adopted that motto after his first time (blackout drunk) with Bloberta. He didn't remember and he believed her now he's staying in a miserable marriage (not stuck they choose to stay outta pride). Or he's fully aware but denied his true nature.
The fucked up part to me is that people (mostly the ones in power) in that town know who and how Clay is, they know he shot Orel but everyone just kinda pretends like they don’t know he’s a pos.
@@pointysidedown Ya, they committed to the bit. You can't see Orel walk after that without knowing that Clay hurt him. Orel eventually makes a good life for himself, but the animations drill in that Clay doesn't care that he permanently damaged a child. His own child. It's a centerpiece for when the show went raw and displayed the damage that that kind of upbringing could wreak.
@@verager2493 I don't understand why everyone assumes Orel had a good life after his traumatic childhood. Just because the picture looks happy does not mean their lives are happy. Orel, clay, bloberta, and shapey had a happy family pic too. There is nothing in that scene that makes me think morel grew up to be a happy, well adjusted person.
@@Whazzy that's fine if you want to be an optimist, but there is nothing in the show that indicates moral broke free from the cycle. Most people don't break free without years of hard work on themselves, with professionals. I didnt see any of that, so most likely moral will continue the cycle of abuse with his children. I couldn't disagree with you more about moral's ending.
You really should watch. It starts out very “Adult Swim” crazy but you realize that the whole town is disappointed in themselves for all kinds of reasons. You think Orel is stupid but he just hasn’t been taught. And he’s THE BEST PERSON EVER but is naive because he’s untouched by the cynical real world. It also seems like it has an anti-religous angle but it’s just that people will use religion to cover up their awfulness and failures.
I wish this show was never canned it's oddly therapeutic in a dark cathartic way, I grew up with an alcoholic father, dismissive mother and siblings that hated me. This show was a good outlet because I could relate with Orel and the depiction of trauma, abuse and slow dive into cynicism felt very very real and human. This show was compelling and danced on the line of acceptable TV and "Dear God, who let this be aired." But I love it for it, the show would never shy away from dark topics and made many characters human and horrible, they felt real.
@@SBaby I figured, the show gets way too real at times and I wish it kept going, I wanted to see Orel growing up, learning and bettering himself to be a good man and father
And this is the same guy who voiced Baymax... Anyway, this was intense when I first watched it. I think I would say around 8:34 is when I felt like I was sinking into my couch when watching this. The anger in his voice just gradually getting worse and worse by every second was truly horrifying. Scott Adsit did such a fantastic job playing this character. *God* I love this show! This was a great video, mate.
I like how many voice actors have voiced two characters that act as specific opposites. Clay Puppington is a man with no care for humanity, while Baymax is a robot whose purpose is to protect humans. J Jonah Jameson means well despite hating a superhero, while Omni-Man is a villain who had fooled those around him that he was a good man. I honestly wanna see more examples of this stuff.
yeah ever since i found out clay shared a voice with baymax i was not only shook with how polar opposite the characters are but also amused thinking about baymax just angrily screaming at a child
Really think about this too. In most cartoons alcoholism is always portrayed as a funny joke. Like "Haha, look at this fool being drunk, lol". This cartoon on the other hand, takes alcoholism very seriously that it comes across as... just disturbing. That's what makes Moral Orel so different from the other Adult Swim cartoons.
I personally don't feel empathy for Clay EXCEPT... For his marriage to Bloberta. Bloberta manipulated him to drink and marry her so that she could be accepted. Do I think Clay would have been a better person if not for Bloberta? I really don't know since as a kid he's been coddled and raised to not care about others. What I do know is that Bloberta made it worse, and forced him into a marriage he didn't really want in the first place. As much as I hate Clay and think he should have never even had the honor to be Orel's dad, I think Bloberta is just as guilty if not more of Orel's abuse.
@@Jacob-TNK I completely get why people focus on Clay because he carries this show's themes of misguided Christianity and child abuse. However, Bloberta's acceptance of Orel's abuse and manipulation of Clay makes her just as guilty. I loved this video though!
Clay was the truly hated character by all...the darkness that crawled out of this creature was of pure evil and many times in real life the character of this man stays evil,alone,and dies a bitter soul.
@@Jacob-TNK Yes,negligent,non caring and never shows love(this apathetic character is the worse)because if your not observant to these beings you could easily become one in your teen to adult years unless you have the faith to let them be on their own.
I just loved the visuals of the sky getting darker, the flames basically emanating from his face, the flies appearing more and more showing just how rotten this man has gotten.
That and being peer pressured to drink. He explained he never has had alcohol before. Before the reception he was a sober, good going man who just had an ego. Once he had his first taste he loved it and became an alcoholic in that night. He was then manipulated into a marriage he despises. Clay may be an awful and awful man but when you see the moment he began to become the monster he is you can't help but feel slightly sorry for him.
@@stevencorsoe9575 I wouldn't say that clay was born evil, you clearly can see him becoming the way he is over the show, slowly but surely getting worse and worse, don't miss understand me, clay is to be categorised as an evil person but you also have to understand him. He lives with the guilt of killing his own mom, the only person who ever really loved him, then got rejected by his father for an accident when he was a little boy, and even after that. he still said that he should die alone, that a marriage would never last with him, he knew that he was not the kind of man that would make others happy. To have the self reflection and spirit to self isolate others at the cost of your own happieness must take a lot. But when Bloberta manipulated him into marrying her, he for the first time in like 20 years felt like someone would love him again, that would accept him and give him the right to be happy. But as we can see this obviously backfired at all the actors involved.
@@elifdot Yes,but all that he was he should have at least seemed help for his problems...many men are in his same situation and there is a break point that makes us pull out of our own darkness unless you are truly hopeless and a marriage never fixes that problem until you become okay...not saying perfect but functional.
I think that's quite healthy, I watched the series and there are parts that I still think about and that still fucks with me (you can read the synopsis for s3e4 Alone if curious). I can recommend the show, but if you don't tink it's for you then that's fine. That's sorta the nice thing with dark/disturbing content in general, you can challenge yourself, yet still have the control to set boundaries where you feel comfortable.
Clay managed to push his son and his family away leaving him alone. When Orel said that he hates him, Clay just shrugs it off not realizing what he has done. When Orel asks Bloberta why she married him, she didn't give him a straight answer and acts like there was nothing wrong with him. When Bloberta left Orel's room, she broke crying because she deeply knew it was her fault that Clay drinks alot because she wanted to escape her family and be accepted by her friends (their marriage ended badly and she married Clay for nothing). She looked at Clay and gave him the cold shoulder and refused to confront him about the incident. She is upset that Clay caused Orel to see the truth.
She's only marginally better than Clay because of her main problem: avoidance. And parental neglect is an awful thing especially when there's an even worse parent in the house. She just gave up like a coward
As someone who suffered from alcoholism I feel what clay was saying, that's what it's like to drink you drink to just feel anything and have to keep drinking more and more. It makes you feel worse and worse each day as well
I keep saying this but moral orel would likely be known as an american classic were it not animated. I'm glad to find people like you that "get it" so at the very least I know I'm not crazy
I was scared and shocked when Clay getting “hallucinating” and shot Orel in the leg. He was like my favorite character before that happened! Anyway, I enjoy the show. I like how it’s a hilarious series with dark and serious moments.
How could this be any character but truly less favorable...this is a sociopath monster with an evil mind(filled with weakness and depravation)and as far as this show being funny...that's a whole misguided concept and I think the writers and animators needed to show you how ugly and hypocritical they all were(except the character of Orel and maybe a couple others)such sadness and decree but that was the part that made you watch and see the reality of the show.
I grew up and lived with a narcissistic alcoholic father for 18 years of my life. I am now 20. Through him I have lost years of childhood, educational development, and just general happiness. To an alcoholic anyone in their life comes second to themselves and their addiction. After watching some of the episodes in this show I'm just in tears because I've been there. It is horrible and people like that ruin your life and won't own up to it. They will only blame it on you...
I lived with an alcoholic father and I spent my entire childhood to young adult life living with him, all the anger, self destruction, rants, but I do see the pain and depression my dad was going through. Really they do such a great job at humanizing Clay despite how much of a piece of shit he is. I really like the final scene where he is walking down the hallway and overhears Orel and his mom talking about why she married him and after the conversation he follows her to bed but before he glances up at the picture of Clay with his family before going to bed. Clay is a terrible person, but he like many alcoholics is suffering greatly.
Clay would have turned out rough just from his childhood, but he was genuinely a good man who was misguided until he got tricked and taken advantage of by Blobertta. The clip where she admonishes him for "not wanting Shapey" even though Shapey was the product of her infidelity really shows how awful she was to him. Clay's drinking and horrible parenting skills (a product of him not wanting any kids to begin with) are all DIRCECT results of Bloberrta putting him on that path, and she knows this and hates him for it. He's awful now, sure, but we should all acknowledge that he would never have been this bad without his horrible wife. When she leaves Orel's room and Clay catches her sobbing, possibly from how scared she was that Orel could have died and also possibly because she knows how horrible Clay is now due to her putting him on the drinking path, she doesn't own up to anything or talk about anything to Clay. She just walks off and refuses to talk to him.
I agree that what she did absolutely helped put Clay on the path he ended up one but you aren’t giving him much responsibility for his own actions. She encouraged him to try alcohol because she and her father bonded over drinking and genuinely thought alcohol was a good thing. He responded poorly to it and decided to keep binge drinking for the rest of his life after trying it once. She had no idea this would happen. She did manipulate him into marriage and that was abusive and wrong of her. She was just as damaged as Clay when the two of them met and was just trying to find someone to love and be with her. We also have no clue if Clay was a good man before they met since we don’t actually see any of it. Regardless of what she did, he is fully responsible for how he treated Orel. He refused to take any responsibility for harming him constantly. She’s a horrible neglectful mom but at least she seems love love her kids deep down based on how she reacts to Shapey admitting he’s lonely and her being worried about Orel’s leg. Clay literally told Orel he’s glad he shot him and caused his permanent limp (he was sober when he said that too).
This episode truly grabbed at emotions and feelings although my father was never this man(and never would be)I feel for friends of myne I grew up with that had father's like this...Many times as a kid I witnessed depravating actions from they're fathers and always felt fortunate to have a good dad that was there for me...through thick and thin...but this episode tore at my heartstrings and brought tears to me in wonderment of why and how these things happen.I think this show could have been the best teaching tool to even the addicted and weak.Just ashame it had to be cancelled in it's prime...there is nothing wrong with the dark views of life as long as you learn from them.
And every day I miss my father(he passed of lung cancer when he was 68)...seeing that this kind of shit does survive and gets the right to grow old and a good man like my father's passing at a young age still brings tears to my eyes...😢
Clay made be a fucked up guy but Cecil was more fucked up than Clay. But In thrid final episode of the season and oh Boy, it was so dark and depressing which led to it's cancellation. Creepler is considered the main reason for the cancellation of Moral Orel. His more serious characterization proved to be so dark that it partially led Adult Swim to cancel the show after reading an early draft of the episode "Alone".
Honestly while they're both dark, I think Clay was a more interesting and darker character. Creepler was fucked up but we only really got 2 episodes to know him (actually 1, he died offscreen)
Clay is basically a great interpretation of a victim becoming a victimizer, he didn't have a great start with his delusional overbearing mom and his dad turning abusive after her death but things literally only kept getting worse and the only redeeming thing he'd ever done is make Orel- and even then he couldn't appreciate him or show him actual honest affection.
@@CAT-2323 He hasn't seen it, but, since we have access to Netflix now, maybe I'll show it to him. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on DVD as well.
In orel movie when he showed his dad in a " puppy" form because he is "loyal" and "nice" but he ends up looking like his true form a snarling, sadistic, and evil wolf monster
8:26 is what really broke my heart. Putting all of the heavy stuff on Orel. What can he do? He’s a child having to deal with adult situations and that just hurts
the thing about this scene is...it's not played for laughs at all. It's not supposed to be funny. its dark, uncomfortable and shows that mroe than anything Orel is very seriously, non-comedically frigthened of his dad, changing the nature of their relationship and of the show itself.
It must take so much time & effort to do a visual gag like 4:08 in a stop motion show. This kind of thing is why I have tons of respect for stop motion animators. Also, it's sad & creepy the way the camera is used as Clay's perspective until he dissociates to enter his bedroom & pretend to be okay while lying next to a wife he doesn't wanna be with & yet probably hates himself for mistreating. Especially the way he looked at the door he left open but couldn't even be bothered to get back up & close it.
Clay has to be my favourite character, he is such an interesting traumatic character who I somehow feel sad for, but also think he deserves everything terrible that happens to him, passing is probably my favourite episode, it was one of a few episodes that made me tear up and it perfectly shows who he is and why he is the person that he became, he is a truly terrible human being, but such a complex one.
This is one of the rare moments I've said "Oh my god I remember this episode" and been mors scared than hype. Even as an adult, in fact I think the scene hits harder as an adult, Clay's breakdown shakes me to my damn core
When the Nature episode came out I was a kid who would stay up and watch adult swim, my dads an alcoholic too so the entire episode had me on edge in the worst possible way.
Apparently what was planned that Orels mom would end up with the cop after he divorced his wife and they had a good relationship There was no happy ending for his dad
In my mind I would have considered that ending and in most cases men or women that are this evil and cruel finally expire by their own hand...because there could never be happiness in their useless lives.
Yeah, I hated learning about Bloberta's planned ending. She was just as bad as Clay, only in a different way, and didn't really deserve a happy ending.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 In a situation like that it can either go one way or the other and I'm sure if it went the bad way holiday visits(if at all occured)could prove to be a living hell for the boy when he becomes a man for that matter both...but in many cases the good comes out in family and maybe she would do a whole 180 with Clay gone out of the scene.
@@stevencorsoe9575 yeah she’s happier, and considering how the other two boys ended up being cops and firefighters in the future ((at the end of Morel when he’s older there are pictures of his brothers))
Which one? Or is it just that one of the higher demon lords is also known as The Lord of Flies? Which, I dunno, maybe that’s what they were going for, but like every point I can think of for I can think another against
Yep, that's what happens when you point out the drinking to an alcoholic. They get mad, red in the face, blame everyone else around them for their problems and try to use that as justification for their drinking saying it's "the only thing that helps." But you take the alcohol away and that's even worse.
the first time telling your alcoholic father hes "too drunk" is very uncomfortable. when you grow up with a parent who drinks as heavily as clay (yes they do exist), you sort of normalize the behavior in your head. and as a kid you may almost feel like youre overreacting or being rude about it. i remember one time after dinner with my dad and bf, my bf mentioned to me "your dad drinks a lot." and i had to actually stop and think because even as an adult i shut off my ability to notice my dad drinking. theres also the fear that, as a kid, if you tell your father that his alcoholism is scaring you he might just explode and become violent. Nature is about Orel finally acknowledging that his father is a broken man everything is so well-done in this season finale and watching it honestly makes me pretty uncomfortable. everything. the way clays face changes as he stares down orel at the camp, the way he loses his shit and devolves into some blubbering mess, the way orel tries to calmly talk to this unreasonable scumbag who is only trying to antagonize him. ive had to use that exact same cautious tone of voice many times with my own dad this show is very important to me because i find it almost cathartic to be able to confront that fear i had as a kid and to be able to see that others went through it and its NOT normal, or shouldnt be. im convinced at least one of the people on the writing team grew up with a dad like clay. its just too real
i dunno if anyone else has pointed this out, and maybe i'm reading too much into it, but when orel tells clay that he killed the bear, i feel kind of like it was pointing out more blatant hypocrisy in the "i don't remember so it didn't happen" statement, as well as rejecting his father's happiness as mentioned in the video he didn't remember shooting orel, so it didn't happen! he didn't remember killing the bear, but doesn't really make an attempt to question orel in saying so because it wasn't as bad as shooting his son sorry if this doesn't make a lot of sense, or if it's a bit of a reach, but i just thought that line itself is very interesting :)
Clay Puppington is my favorite character on Moral Orel. Don’t get me wrong, he’s completely deplorable, but on a character study level, he’s absolutely fascinating. It’s a crime this show didn’t get its full story.
It is a GREAT show and the more you delve into the characters the more you learn from them and for yourself on how to be better...it is a very poignant view of the true human being(faults and all).
He did mention that the doctor was good at doing his job and keeping his mouth shut, i.e. he wasn't going to ask questions or say anything to anyone as long as he was paid.
I think that the most important takeaway here is that children are incapable of being """""narcissists""""" and that yes, he was a spoiled brat but that's because of the way he was raised by a mother who didn't know how to own up to her behavior and was extremely delusional (I guess she was going insane anyway, i don't know, i don't care.) And a lot of children of abusers in the comments. Myself included. My father spoke like Clay sometimes, I don't know how to feel about that.
"Bright means the opposite. It means sudden withering death... Who am I kidding? My life IS full of bright." Clay is covered in flies and the devil is called "lord of the flies" sometimes. Clay has basically become the devil as a coping mechanism for how unloved and unfortunate he feels. His cruelty and hatred of life are ways of lashing out at god. He drinks to not feel and to cover up his self-hatred. Drinking gives him the confidence to be sadistic which fuels his self-hatred which makes hate life and resent everyone more and therefore become more sadistic. My point is he didn't misspeak. Clay hates life, brightness, innocence, which are all reminders of god's oppression from his perspective. "Hate away, sister, hate away"
I'm haphappy that people online are just now recognizing the brilliance of this show. It is my favorite animated show of all time. There's so much to unpack in this show.
Little fun fact, the season 1 finale was actually the first episode actually aired. Wasn't til later the started the show for real and we got the context for everything leading up to it.
My mother was an alcoholic and severely bipolar and I got taken away by cps when I was 11 and Clay’s monologue broke my heart with how hard I related it to my mother, especially when later we see Orel realise how terrible his father is and give up on trying to impress him
One of the things that make Clay one of the worst is because he simply doesn't want to change. Now, I know it's not easy to do so, specially in a situation where most of the people in his life are toxic. But he did have instances where he could have take a good path, and didn't. Why? Because he's a coward. His abusive father had a change of heart after meeting his kid. He told Clay they could start again. I get why he said no, after all, Arthur didn't do anything all these years and hurt him so much, Arthur lost his wife but forgot that his child lost his mother too. But at the same thing, Clay saying no is ironically the same thing his father did to him: He didn't thought about his son having a good relationship with his grandfather, he instead though about his own problems. Hell, he could have said 'I don't forgive you. But it's obvious you were good with Orel and he likes you, so I'll allow it.' Just let things happen, nothing else. I would say the second time was Orel himself. It's obvious Orel's personality comes from Clay, specially the one in his young 20s. He could have thought about how his own father's 'love' didn't do anything good for him, and try to do something else to Orel. It wouldn't be easy, again, but that's the point.
changing for the better is hard, but it isn't something impossible. Clay is a character who had his chances to make the effort in becoming better and instead hid behind the alcohol
Clay is without a doubt the darkest and most realistic villain from Adult Swim. Just a egotistical, vindictive drunk of a father. I read somewhere that Bloberta was supposed to have somewhat of a redemption arc and end up with Papermouth. Which I would’ve loved to have seen tbh It would’ve ended with Clay alone with alcohol and the ‘commandments’
0:43 This is actually how the conversation went. Great video dude, Clay is a hard character to tackle due to just how messed up his entire character is. I am genuinely glad you watched this show and hell even talked to me during your viewing because Moral Orel is a golden show. I look forward to working with you on other things in the future
Just watched this and and the first 2 eps of season 3 and holy wow, this hit a lot. The more i watch this show, the more i saw it was really ahead of it's time. It does really well when handling dark topics alcoholism. Which i didnt see until i watched Bojack Horseman. Wish i gave this show chance and this show wasn't cancelled, because it's good and as depressing and hard-hitting as it is, cathartic for me
I hate alcoholics, some of the worst people you can ever be around. I have very little sympathy for them since a lot of them don't get help. I especially hate alcoholics who hurt children. if you are an alcoholic that managed to quit drinking and go to therapy then you should be praised since you did an honorable deed.
Clay is such an interesting character because on the one hand he’s an irredeemable piece of human garbage, but I find him so interesting that he may be one of my favorite characters in the show
Jesus. I remember it being like that with my dad 4:50, having music going the whole time, never really talking even on our camping trip… just felt so lonely and sad even when I was with him. Looking back, it wasn’t about me as much as it was about him. He even scared my mom cuz he didn’t tell her we were going out and she called the cops thinking we had been kidnapped or some shit… Man. Even the “fun” things always were tainted
this might be a bit late, though it is noticeable that there is a blue crane in most episodes of Moral Orel, usually it is sign of innocence and in this episode, right after Orel shot the gun- the blue crane left and is seen flying away. It could be some kind of symbol that his innocence has been tainted/ruined.
Honestly I really just wish we got an episode that shows Clay being replaced as mayor and Blobertta divorcing him, and Orel finally calling him a useless loser of a parent to his face
I feel like it would kinda be like that point where Bojack was friends with Vance Waggoner where they get along really well until Bojack sees some of Clay's more toxic behavior
Dammn I used to watch the show when I was younger, a few clips on TH-cam. After watching this, I need to watch it, I didn’t know it was like that. Just thought it was a regular robot chicken show. Also The way you ended this video, amazingg for that clip.
Hey thanks And yeah, this show has gotten a bit of a cult following as of recently so I'd recommend giving it a watch. It's currently on HBO Max if you have that, though it's also easy to find full episodes on TH-cam
Moral Orel will always be my favorite representation of alcoholism. You want to help them or even pity them, but they say they hate you. They say they’ll kill you. They say they’ll kill themselves but can you really blame them?
As someone who grew up with an alcoholic parent, i find this show's representation extremely accurate. I lived through very similar situations from the "you become a bad persone when you drink" to Clay's monologue about his addiction.
The fear and discomfort you feel when the parent is drunk is also really accurate, plus the reasons that they drink are, too.
Agreed, oh my God a g r e e d .
I remember saying the exact thing to my dad when I was a kid!
He was always so defensive when I brought up his drinking, too so I think that's accurate
@@julesyano4337 it gets the second hand embarrassment of it right , too. Nothing like being afraid and embarrassed of a relative at the same time.
It's one of those things "you become a bad person when you drink" but they know they become a bad person and they still continue to drink, because drinking is more important to them then even attempting to get better.
@@Nyghtking well alcohol numbs the pain for a lot of people, why they drink it so much. Sometimes its not that they dont wanna change, but just dont know how, most of them dont even believe their an alcoholic
To make matters worse with this scene, right before Clay shot Orel he was talking about how there are no accidents, implying to Orel that he meant to shoot him. And also the fact that he wouldn't accept that he shot him the later morning, but accepted instantly that he killed the bear, the thing he didn't even actually do
Yeah I love that quick turn around.
"I don't remember doing it so it mustn't have happened." "I shot a bear? I don't remember but it must have happened."
Then the lie becomes "a bear shot Orel."
and he also tells him later in season 3 that he's glad he shot him
Follow up: i do believe that he didn't remember being blackout drunk and all. But I wonder if he adopted that motto after his first time (blackout drunk) with Bloberta. He didn't remember and he believed her now he's staying in a miserable marriage (not stuck they choose to stay outta pride).
Or he's fully aware but denied his true nature.
The fucked up part to me is that people (mostly the ones in power) in that town know who and how Clay is, they know he shot Orel but everyone just kinda pretends like they don’t know he’s a pos.
@@CrystalRose1111 worse they voted him in as mayor at least twice though he was unopposed the last one.
Very important: for the rest of the series, Orel walks with a noticeable limp.
The doctor said he would have a limp for the rest of his life when he took off the cast.
@@pointysidedown Ya, they committed to the bit. You can't see Orel walk after that without knowing that Clay hurt him.
Orel eventually makes a good life for himself, but the animations drill in that Clay doesn't care that he permanently damaged a child. His own child.
It's a centerpiece for when the show went raw and displayed the damage that that kind of upbringing could wreak.
@@verager2493 I don't understand why everyone assumes Orel had a good life after his traumatic childhood. Just because the picture looks happy does not mean their lives are happy. Orel, clay, bloberta, and shapey had a happy family pic too. There is nothing in that scene that makes me think morel grew up to be a happy, well adjusted person.
@@pointysidedown I like to think that Orel was strong enough to break the cycle
@@Whazzy that's fine if you want to be an optimist, but there is nothing in the show that indicates moral broke free from the cycle. Most people don't break free without years of hard work on themselves, with professionals. I didnt see any of that, so most likely moral will continue the cycle of abuse with his children. I couldn't disagree with you more about moral's ending.
Jesus Christ...this guy honestly seems both hateable AND interesting.
That sums up Clay
As a good villain should.
Alongside Simon from Infinity Train S3, Clay is absolutely one of the greatest villains in animation imo.
You really should watch. It starts out very “Adult Swim” crazy but you realize that the whole town is disappointed in themselves for all kinds of reasons.
You think Orel is stupid but he just hasn’t been taught. And he’s THE BEST PERSON EVER but is naive because he’s untouched by the cynical real world.
It also seems like it has an anti-religous angle but it’s just that people will use religion to cover up their awfulness and failures.
@@NotALiberalSoSkipTheScript I actually already did watch it.
I wish this show was never canned it's oddly therapeutic in a dark cathartic way, I grew up with an alcoholic father, dismissive mother and siblings that hated me. This show was a good outlet because I could relate with Orel and the depiction of trauma, abuse and slow dive into cynicism felt very very real and human. This show was compelling and danced on the line of acceptable TV and "Dear God, who let this be aired." But I love it for it, the show would never shy away from dark topics and made many characters human and horrible, they felt real.
The show got cancelled because it hit too close to home for execs and politicians.
@@SBaby I figured, the show gets way too real at times and I wish it kept going, I wanted to see Orel growing up, learning and bettering himself to be a good man and father
@@Papa_Waffles It at least implies that he did at the end, but it would've been nice to see the rest of his journey.
@@SBaby It really would've been nice to see that
And this is the same guy who voiced Baymax...
Anyway, this was intense when I first watched it. I think I would say around 8:34 is when I felt like I was sinking into my couch when watching this. The anger in his voice just gradually getting worse and worse by every second was truly horrifying. Scott Adsit did such a fantastic job playing this character. *God* I love this show!
This was a great video, mate.
Yep, also Reverend Putty is the voice of Rigby
And Orel is the voice of Sandy Cheeks.
Holy crap now that everyone's saying "this guy voice this guy" I know realize how similar they sound
I like how many voice actors have voiced two characters that act as specific opposites.
Clay Puppington is a man with no care for humanity, while Baymax is a robot whose purpose is to protect humans.
J Jonah Jameson means well despite hating a superhero, while Omni-Man is a villain who had fooled those around him that he was a good man.
I honestly wanna see more examples of this stuff.
yeah ever since i found out clay shared a voice with baymax i was not only shook with how polar opposite the characters are but also amused thinking about baymax just angrily screaming at a child
You got one thing wrong though:
A bear shot Orel
Damn, how did I get such simple info wrong
Really? I heard clay shot the bear and then orel shot clay..... Or was it the other way around?
I guess the alcohol didn't quit working on you.
Really think about this too. In most cartoons alcoholism is always portrayed as a funny joke. Like "Haha, look at this fool being drunk, lol". This cartoon on the other hand, takes alcoholism very seriously that it comes across as... just disturbing. That's what makes Moral Orel so different from the other Adult Swim cartoons.
Good point, I have been on eggshells with alcoholics before and I thought both clay and orel interactions were very realistic.
And it was so different and good it had to get kicked off the channel.
@@henryapplebottom7231 Because why have nice things, when you can't have those.
I personally don't feel empathy for Clay EXCEPT... For his marriage to Bloberta. Bloberta manipulated him to drink and marry her so that she could be accepted. Do I think Clay would have been a better person if not for Bloberta? I really don't know since as a kid he's been coddled and raised to not care about others. What I do know is that Bloberta made it worse, and forced him into a marriage he didn't really want in the first place.
As much as I hate Clay and think he should have never even had the honor to be Orel's dad, I think Bloberta is just as guilty if not more of Orel's abuse.
They're both terrible. We mainly focus on Clay's abuse but Bloberta is just as bad
@@Jacob-TNK I completely get why people focus on Clay because he carries this show's themes of misguided Christianity and child abuse. However, Bloberta's acceptance of Orel's abuse and manipulation of Clay makes her just as guilty. I loved this video though!
@@notacatjustahuman thank you. I've wanted to try out this style a bit more and build upon it (atleast as much as I can with iMovie)
Clay was the truly hated character by all...the darkness that crawled out of this creature was of pure evil and many times in real life the character of this man stays evil,alone,and dies a bitter soul.
@@Jacob-TNK Yes,negligent,non caring and never shows love(this apathetic character is the worse)because if your not observant to these beings you could easily become one in your teen to adult years unless you have the faith to let them be on their own.
I just loved the visuals of the sky getting darker, the flames basically emanating from his face, the flies appearing more and more showing just how rotten this man has gotten.
Clay has always honestly been a bad person, but I do think he could have gotten better had he not gotten manipulated into marriage
That and being peer pressured to drink. He explained he never has had alcohol before. Before the reception he was a sober, good going man who just had an ego. Once he had his first taste he loved it and became an alcoholic in that night. He was then manipulated into a marriage he despises. Clay may be an awful and awful man but when you see the moment he began to become the monster he is you can't help but feel slightly sorry for him.
Many serial killers through history never married and if they did it was always a bad outcome.
@@stevencorsoe9575 I wouldn't say that clay was born evil, you clearly can see him becoming the way he is over the show, slowly but surely getting worse and worse, don't miss understand me, clay is to be categorised as an evil person but you also have to understand him. He lives with the guilt of killing his own mom, the only person who ever really loved him, then got rejected by his father for an accident when he was a little boy, and even after that. he still said that he should die alone, that a marriage would never last with him, he knew that he was not the kind of man that would make others happy. To have the self reflection and spirit to self isolate others at the cost of your own happieness must take a lot. But when Bloberta manipulated him into marrying her, he for the first time in like 20 years felt like someone would love him again, that would accept him and give him the right to be happy. But as we can see this obviously backfired at all the actors involved.
@@elifdot Yes,but all that he was he should have at least seemed help for his problems...many men are in his same situation and there is a break point that makes us pull out of our own darkness unless you are truly hopeless and a marriage never fixes that problem until you become okay...not saying perfect but functional.
It was Censordoll that was the apex villain. Would of liked more episodes of the show, namely to get more of her history.
I'm gonna be honest, I don't think I could handle a show like this.
If this was intense, then season 3 is not for you
*it takes balls to admit that bud.*
There are people who can't, and it makes sense. Especially if you're the survivor of this kind of abuse...
I think that's quite healthy, I watched the series and there are parts that I still think about and that still fucks with me (you can read the synopsis for s3e4 Alone if curious). I can recommend the show, but if you don't tink it's for you then that's fine.
That's sorta the nice thing with dark/disturbing content in general, you can challenge yourself, yet still have the control to set boundaries where you feel comfortable.
@@justacrittic1578 Jesus Christ, Alone. That one . . . only once, never again.
If I could describe Clay in one sentence, it would be "He who makes a beast out of himself, gets rid of the pain of being a man".
Clay managed to push his son and his family away leaving him alone. When Orel said that he hates him, Clay just shrugs it off not realizing what he has done.
When Orel asks Bloberta why she married him, she didn't give him a straight answer and acts like there was nothing wrong with him.
When Bloberta left Orel's room, she broke crying because she deeply knew it was her fault that Clay drinks alot because she wanted to escape her family and be accepted by her friends (their marriage ended badly and she married Clay for nothing). She looked at Clay and gave him the cold shoulder and refused to confront him about the incident. She is upset that Clay caused Orel to see the truth.
She's only marginally better than Clay because of her main problem: avoidance. And parental neglect is an awful thing especially when there's an even worse parent in the house. She just gave up like a coward
@@tuckernutter both are bad. Orel's mom is a coward for telling her son the truth and she failed to protect him.
@@AH-is5yg Not to mention, wasn't Bloberta the one who suggested that Clay should take Orel to his study?
@@jenneacubero1036 she was too weak to deal with her son.
As someone who suffered from alcoholism I feel what clay was saying, that's what it's like to drink you drink to just feel anything and have to keep drinking more and more. It makes you feel worse and worse each day as well
And this is why Adult Swim has a lot of untold gems that needs to be known to the world.
I keep saying this but moral orel would likely be known as an american classic were it not animated. I'm glad to find people like you that "get it" so at the very least I know I'm not crazy
People who don't respect animation are crazy. Most my favorite pieces of media are animated
@@Jacob-TNK Says a lot about U.S.A doesn't it?
@@victorwretched1072 *this says a lot about society*
I personally think it’s so much better animated.
@@aeoncalcos3246 same
I was scared and shocked when Clay getting “hallucinating” and shot Orel in the leg. He was like my favorite character before that happened! Anyway, I enjoy the show. I like how it’s a hilarious series with dark and serious moments.
How could this be any character but truly less favorable...this is a sociopath monster with an evil mind(filled with weakness and depravation)and as far as this show being funny...that's a whole misguided concept and I think the writers and animators needed to show you how ugly and hypocritical they all were(except the character of Orel and maybe a couple others)such sadness and decree but that was the part that made you watch and see the reality of the show.
Something about Splatoon fans and moral Orel
I grew up and lived with a narcissistic alcoholic father for 18 years of my life. I am now 20. Through him I have lost years of childhood, educational development, and just general happiness. To an alcoholic anyone in their life comes second to themselves and their addiction. After watching some of the episodes in this show I'm just in tears because I've been there. It is horrible and people like that ruin your life and won't own up to it. They will only blame it on you...
9:16 When I saw this scene, I legit thought Clay was going to attack Orel.
and then he did! i think he meant to shoot orel and maybe even kill him.
@@enterprisingbiosphere3933 that makes sense because why did he even shoot the gun anyway
I lived with an alcoholic father and I spent my entire childhood to young adult life living with him, all the anger, self destruction, rants, but I do see the pain and depression my dad was going through. Really they do such a great job at humanizing Clay despite how much of a piece of shit he is. I really like the final scene where he is walking down the hallway and overhears Orel and his mom talking about why she married him and after the conversation he follows her to bed but before he glances up at the picture of Clay with his family before going to bed. Clay is a terrible person, but he like many alcoholics is suffering greatly.
Man #1: I drink to dull the hurt.
Man #2: I drink to hurt myself.
Clay: I drink to hurt YOU.
Clay would have turned out rough just from his childhood, but he was genuinely a good man who was misguided until he got tricked and taken advantage of by Blobertta. The clip where she admonishes him for "not wanting Shapey" even though Shapey was the product of her infidelity really shows how awful she was to him. Clay's drinking and horrible parenting skills (a product of him not wanting any kids to begin with) are all DIRCECT results of Bloberrta putting him on that path, and she knows this and hates him for it. He's awful now, sure, but we should all acknowledge that he would never have been this bad without his horrible wife.
When she leaves Orel's room and Clay catches her sobbing, possibly from how scared she was that Orel could have died and also possibly because she knows how horrible Clay is now due to her putting him on the drinking path, she doesn't own up to anything or talk about anything to Clay. She just walks off and refuses to talk to him.
I agree that what she did absolutely helped put Clay on the path he ended up one but you aren’t giving him much responsibility for his own actions. She encouraged him to try alcohol because she and her father bonded over drinking and genuinely thought alcohol was a good thing. He responded poorly to it and decided to keep binge drinking for the rest of his life after trying it once. She had no idea this would happen. She did manipulate him into marriage and that was abusive and wrong of her. She was just as damaged as Clay when the two of them met and was just trying to find someone to love and be with her. We also have no clue if Clay was a good man before they met since we don’t actually see any of it. Regardless of what she did, he is fully responsible for how he treated Orel. He refused to take any responsibility for harming him constantly. She’s a horrible neglectful mom but at least she seems love love her kids deep down based on how she reacts to Shapey admitting he’s lonely and her being worried about Orel’s leg. Clay literally told Orel he’s glad he shot him and caused his permanent limp (he was sober when he said that too).
Yeah no let’s not blame all of his actions on his wife. His actions are his own and he knows that. That’s a part of why he breaks down ….
The most disturbing thing, to me at least, is how satisfied Clay looks after shooting Orel.
This episode truly grabbed at emotions and feelings although my father was never this man(and never would be)I feel for friends of myne I grew up with that had father's like this...Many times as a kid I witnessed depravating actions from they're fathers and always felt fortunate to have a good dad that was there for me...through thick and thin...but this episode tore at my heartstrings and brought tears to me in wonderment of why and how these things happen.I think this show could have been the best teaching tool to even the addicted and weak.Just ashame it had to be cancelled in it's prime...there is nothing wrong with the dark views of life as long as you learn from them.
And every day I miss my father(he passed of lung cancer when he was 68)...seeing that this kind of shit does survive and gets the right to grow old and a good man like my father's passing at a young age still brings tears to my eyes...😢
Clay made be a fucked up guy but Cecil was more fucked up than Clay. But In thrid final episode of the season and oh Boy, it was so dark and depressing which led to it's cancellation.
Creepler is considered the main reason for the cancellation of Moral Orel. His more serious characterization proved to be so dark that it partially led Adult Swim to cancel the show after reading an early draft of the episode "Alone".
Honestly while they're both dark, I think Clay was a more interesting and darker character. Creepler was fucked up but we only really got 2 episodes to know him (actually 1, he died offscreen)
The tapping of the ice in Clays drinks always makes me so thirsty 😫
Clay is basically a great interpretation of a victim becoming a victimizer, he didn't have a great start with his delusional overbearing mom and his dad turning abusive after her death but things literally only kept getting worse and the only redeeming thing he'd ever done is make Orel- and even then he couldn't appreciate him or show him actual honest affection.
My grandpa loved this show, I don't know if he's watched it recently, but, when he did watch it he liked it so much he even bought it on DVD.
You’re grandpa sounds so cool
@@CAT-2323 He's pretty great, he loves South Park too.
@@KeeperOfUntoldDreams does he like Bojack Horseman?
@@CAT-2323 He hasn't seen it, but, since we have access to Netflix now, maybe I'll show it to him. Of course, I wouldn't be surprised if it's on DVD as well.
@@KeeperOfUntoldDreams it’d probably be up his alley.
In orel movie when he showed his dad in a " puppy" form because he is "loyal" and "nice" but he ends up looking like his true form a snarling, sadistic, and evil wolf monster
I love how they both act like the victim even tho they constantly hurt each other.
Like a regular relationship 😂
8:26 is what really broke my heart. Putting all of the heavy stuff on Orel. What can he do?
He’s a child having to deal with adult situations and that just hurts
the thing about this scene is...it's not played for laughs at all. It's not supposed to be funny. its dark, uncomfortable and shows that mroe than anything Orel is very seriously, non-comedically frigthened of his dad, changing the nature of their relationship and of the show itself.
it has more impact on the viewer when you have witnessed the development of these characters unravel
I wholeheartedly agree. It's why I actually recommended people to watch the show and chose to not talk about Season 3
It must take so much time & effort to do a visual gag like 4:08 in a stop motion show. This kind of thing is why I have tons of respect for stop motion animators.
Also, it's sad & creepy the way the camera is used as Clay's perspective until he dissociates to enter his bedroom & pretend to be okay while lying next to a wife he doesn't wanna be with & yet probably hates himself for mistreating. Especially the way he looked at the door he left open but couldn't even be bothered to get back up & close it.
I love stop motion for the dedication alone
Clay has to be my favourite character, he is such an interesting traumatic character who I somehow feel sad for, but also think he deserves everything terrible that happens to him, passing is probably my favourite episode, it was one of a few episodes that made me tear up and it perfectly shows who he is and why he is the person that he became, he is a truly terrible human being, but such a complex one.
Moral Orel made me feel less alone during a key time during my childhood. Great vid. ❤️
This is one of the rare moments I've said "Oh my god I remember this episode" and been mors scared than hype. Even as an adult, in fact I think the scene hits harder as an adult, Clay's breakdown shakes me to my damn core
When the Nature episode came out I was a kid who would stay up and watch adult swim, my dads an alcoholic too so the entire episode had me on edge in the worst possible way.
Apparently what was planned that Orels mom would end up with the cop after he divorced his wife and they had a good relationship
There was no happy ending for his dad
Yikes
In my mind I would have considered that ending and in most cases men or women that are this evil and cruel finally expire by their own hand...because there could never be happiness in their useless lives.
Yeah, I hated learning about Bloberta's planned ending. She was just as bad as Clay, only in a different way, and didn't really deserve a happy ending.
@@nicholasfarrell5981 In a situation like that it can either go one way or the other and I'm sure if it went the bad way holiday visits(if at all occured)could prove to be a living hell for the boy when he becomes a man for that matter both...but in many cases the good comes out in family and maybe she would do a whole 180 with Clay gone out of the scene.
@@stevencorsoe9575 yeah she’s happier, and considering how the other two boys ended up being cops and firefighters in the future ((at the end of Morel when he’s older there are pictures of his brothers))
the flies on Clay are also a biblical reference
Which one? Or is it just that one of the higher demon lords is also known as The Lord of Flies? Which, I dunno, maybe that’s what they were going for, but like every point I can think of for I can think another against
@@SerenityM16 maybe flies feasting on the lion?
Yep, that's what happens when you point out the drinking to an alcoholic. They get mad, red in the face, blame everyone else around them for their problems and try to use that as justification for their drinking saying it's "the only thing that helps."
But you take the alcohol away and that's even worse.
Me to my dopamine receptors: "WHY DO YOU QUIT WORKING ON ME"
moral Orel walked so shoes like Bojack could run
the first time i heard his rant i was asleep with my tv on, it was horrifying
Imagine sleeping and then you suddenly hear "WHY DO YOU QUIT WORKING ON ME"
@@Jacob-TNK bro I was legit scared to open my eyes, then I saw Orel on the ground after being shot
the first time telling your alcoholic father hes "too drunk" is very uncomfortable. when you grow up with a parent who drinks as heavily as clay (yes they do exist), you sort of normalize the behavior in your head. and as a kid you may almost feel like youre overreacting or being rude about it. i remember one time after dinner with my dad and bf, my bf mentioned to me "your dad drinks a lot." and i had to actually stop and think because even as an adult i shut off my ability to notice my dad drinking. theres also the fear that, as a kid, if you tell your father that his alcoholism is scaring you he might just explode and become violent. Nature is about Orel finally acknowledging that his father is a broken man
everything is so well-done in this season finale and watching it honestly makes me pretty uncomfortable. everything. the way clays face changes as he stares down orel at the camp, the way he loses his shit and devolves into some blubbering mess, the way orel tries to calmly talk to this unreasonable scumbag who is only trying to antagonize him. ive had to use that exact same cautious tone of voice many times with my own dad
this show is very important to me because i find it almost cathartic to be able to confront that fear i had as a kid and to be able to see that others went through it and its NOT normal, or shouldnt be. im convinced at least one of the people on the writing team grew up with a dad like clay. its just too real
i dunno if anyone else has pointed this out, and maybe i'm reading too much into it, but when orel tells clay that he killed the bear, i feel kind of like it was pointing out more blatant hypocrisy in the "i don't remember so it didn't happen" statement, as well as rejecting his father's happiness as mentioned in the video
he didn't remember shooting orel, so it didn't happen! he didn't remember killing the bear, but doesn't really make an attempt to question orel in saying so because it wasn't as bad as shooting his son
sorry if this doesn't make a lot of sense, or if it's a bit of a reach, but i just thought that line itself is very interesting :)
Clay Puppington is my favorite character on Moral Orel. Don’t get me wrong, he’s completely deplorable, but on a character study level, he’s absolutely fascinating. It’s a crime this show didn’t get its full story.
Re watching your vid now man and your analysis is spot on.
I wish we could have gotten some od the episodes that were cut from S3 but I overall was satisfied with the shows ending
I'm gonna start watching this shoe soon. Honestly can't wait to, cuz I've heard nothing but great things about it.
*shoe*
Is very good shoe
The first season is rough but get through it and you'll see that it's pretty deep
It is a GREAT show and the more you delve into the characters the more you learn from them and for yourself on how to be better...it is a very poignant view of the true human being(faults and all).
I find it strange that there was no real consequence for clay shooting Orel…like at all…
Shows how fucked up the whole town is
He did mention that the doctor was good at doing his job and keeping his mouth shut, i.e. he wasn't going to ask questions or say anything to anyone as long as he was paid.
To add a little more info to this, in season 3, Clay tells Orel that he was glad to have shot his son.
What a douche.
I think that the most important takeaway here is that children are incapable of being """""narcissists""""" and that yes, he was a spoiled brat but that's because of the way he was raised by a mother who didn't know how to own up to her behavior and was extremely delusional (I guess she was going insane anyway, i don't know, i don't care.)
And a lot of children of abusers in the comments. Myself included. My father spoke like Clay sometimes, I don't know how to feel about that.
the animation is really good in this series too
That episode with with the Mountain Goats song changed my life forever, and not just because it turned me onto the Mountain Goats
Scott did a fantastic job voicing Clay.
I have now finally seen this show and I all have to say that it’s great!, I really want to make a One Villainous Scene video at one point.
Also awesome video!
@@thehornedking4739 who would you make a video about?
@@nicholasfarrell5981 Patrick Bateman from American Psycho
@@thehornedking4739 ooh, that gives you a ton of material to work with. I'd love to see that video sometime.
"Bright means the opposite. It means sudden withering death... Who am I kidding? My life IS full of bright."
Clay is covered in flies and the devil is called "lord of the flies" sometimes.
Clay has basically become the devil as a coping mechanism for how unloved and unfortunate he feels. His cruelty and hatred of life are ways of lashing out at god. He drinks to not feel and to cover up his self-hatred. Drinking gives him the confidence to be sadistic which fuels his self-hatred which makes hate life and resent everyone more and therefore become more sadistic. My point is he didn't misspeak. Clay hates life, brightness, innocence, which are all reminders of god's oppression from his perspective.
"Hate away, sister, hate away"
The amount of symbolism in this show is fascinating
I haven't seen this show but damn this scene makes me intrigued. Awesome video!
I really recommend it, though it's pretty fucked up (you can probably handle it though, you have watched Made in Abyss)
It's on TH-cam
I'm haphappy that people online are just now recognizing the brilliance of this show. It is my favorite animated show of all time. There's so much to unpack in this show.
I didn't even talk about S3 here. S3 is something that should be experienced as blind as possible
Damn. Thas dark and deep. Pretty interesting show ngl.
What I find most interesting is that despite all this in the end clay still shows some remorse but even he knows he’s beyond redemption
the fact that clay looks down at his drink like "how many of these have i drank".
Is sad how i relate a lot to orel.
I live with an alcoholic dad and yeah, most of the time is like Clay.
Little fun fact, the season 1 finale was actually the first episode actually aired. Wasn't til later the started the show for real and we got the context for everything leading up to it.
Yeah this show’s real fucking dark. I checked it out recently.
"Crack is gateway to SLANG"
I mean he’s not wrong
My mother was an alcoholic and severely bipolar and I got taken away by cps when I was 11 and Clay’s monologue broke my heart with how hard I related it to my mother, especially when later we see Orel realise how terrible his father is and give up on trying to impress him
All the flies at 7:30 seem thematic. Like Beelzebub.
Hey guys, wanted to try something a little different. Tell me what you think
I really liked it, would like to see more of it.
It was pretty cool. I Liked it.
Easily one of the best videos you've made this year so far.
One of the things that make Clay one of the worst is because he simply doesn't want to change. Now, I know it's not easy to do so, specially in a situation where most of the people in his life are toxic. But he did have instances where he could have take a good path, and didn't. Why? Because he's a coward.
His abusive father had a change of heart after meeting his kid. He told Clay they could start again. I get why he said no, after all, Arthur didn't do anything all these years and hurt him so much, Arthur lost his wife but forgot that his child lost his mother too. But at the same thing, Clay saying no is ironically the same thing his father did to him: He didn't thought about his son having a good relationship with his grandfather, he instead though about his own problems. Hell, he could have said 'I don't forgive you. But it's obvious you were good with Orel and he likes you, so I'll allow it.' Just let things happen, nothing else.
I would say the second time was Orel himself. It's obvious Orel's personality comes from Clay, specially the one in his young 20s. He could have thought about how his own father's 'love' didn't do anything good for him, and try to do something else to Orel. It wouldn't be easy, again, but that's the point.
changing for the better is hard, but it isn't something impossible. Clay is a character who had his chances to make the effort in becoming better and instead hid behind the alcohol
I've watch Moral Orel before and it was chill at first but when I got to the rest of show..I couldn't. I stopped watching it since then
you have such a unique speech pattern. it's quite pleasant.
Thank you very much. I admittedly find it hard to speak due to me stuttering a bit so it's really nice to know someone likes the way I speak
I think the most tragic thing about the show is that Morel is what Clay loves more than anything. But he’s far too broken as a man to convey it.
You mean Orel? And honestly I really doubt that lol
Clay is without a doubt the darkest and most realistic villain from Adult Swim. Just a egotistical, vindictive drunk of a father.
I read somewhere that Bloberta was supposed to have somewhat of a redemption arc and end up with Papermouth. Which I would’ve loved to have seen tbh
It would’ve ended with Clay alone with alcohol and the ‘commandments’
Fun Fact: The Season 1 Finale is actually the Pilot
That's interesting. Though it is interesting how after that the show takes a different tone
No, Adult Swim just aired it first since it was nearing Christmas. Just like how Fox premiered The Simpsons.
I now realize the timeline is screwed up because Coach knew Clay before they met in the actual Pilot
The only good thing Clay has ever done is bringing Orel into the world and that’s it.
It's a miracle that Orel turned out as good as he did
Clay is one of those horribly irredeemable characters we can all relate to in one way or another.
If I had been Orel I would have let the bear kill Clay. Be doing the town a favor.
This episode gave me PTSD
I think I suppressed this episode 💀
0:43
This is actually how the conversation went.
Great video dude, Clay is a hard character to tackle due to just how messed up his entire character is. I am genuinely glad you watched this show and hell even talked to me during your viewing because Moral Orel is a golden show. I look forward to working with you on other things in the future
Yep, it's all true, including the part where you were shot
@@Jacob-TNK To be fair, that is how my family expresses their love
Just watched this and and the first 2 eps of season 3 and holy wow, this hit a lot. The more i watch this show, the more i saw it was really ahead of it's time. It does really well when handling dark topics alcoholism. Which i didnt see until i watched Bojack Horseman. Wish i gave this show chance and this show wasn't cancelled, because it's good and as depressing and hard-hitting as it is, cathartic for me
6:02 there is in episode 5 of season 2 because he is only in 1 Scene
Damn, good eye
I hate alcoholics, some of the worst people you can ever be around. I have very little sympathy for them since a lot of them don't get help. I especially hate alcoholics who hurt children.
if you are an alcoholic that managed to quit drinking and go to therapy then you should be praised since you did an honorable deed.
Clay is such an interesting character because on the one hand he’s an irredeemable piece of human garbage, but I find him so interesting that he may be one of my favorite characters in the show
It says a lot about a shows quality when you're interested in watching a character who is completely irredeemable
This animations look like Davey and Goliath
That's *kind of* what they were going for
Jesus. I remember it being like that with my dad 4:50, having music going the whole time, never really talking even on our camping trip… just felt so lonely and sad even when I was with him. Looking back, it wasn’t about me as much as it was about him. He even scared my mom cuz he didn’t tell her we were going out and she called the cops thinking we had been kidnapped or some shit…
Man. Even the “fun” things always were tainted
Is youtube suggesting I watch Morel Orel again
Probably. I've been getting a lot of clips and videos about the show recommended lately
I think Moral Orel S3 is a True work of art.
this might be a bit late, though it is noticeable that there is a blue crane in most episodes of Moral Orel, usually it is sign of innocence and in this episode, right after Orel shot the gun- the blue crane left and is seen flying away. It could be some kind of symbol that his innocence has been tainted/ruined.
Holy shit, I never noticed that actually. Good eye
Honestly I really just wish we got an episode that shows Clay being replaced as mayor and Blobertta divorcing him, and Orel finally calling him a useless loser of a parent to his face
Right after Clay said "crack is a gateway to slang" my earbuds disconnected and as Orel blinks and looks around it goes Do do do do
There is a saying.
"A drunken mind speaks a sober heart" - Jean-Joques Rousseau
clay puppington and bojack horseman would be such great friends
I feel like it would kinda be like that point where Bojack was friends with Vance Waggoner where they get along really well until Bojack sees some of Clay's more toxic behavior
Well in the Principle of Orel’s School said Klay should stop drinking to take care of Orel better
Dammn I used to watch the show when I was younger, a few clips on TH-cam. After watching this, I need to watch it, I didn’t know it was like that. Just thought it was a regular robot chicken show. Also The way you ended this video, amazingg for that clip.
Hey thanks
And yeah, this show has gotten a bit of a cult following as of recently so I'd recommend giving it a watch. It's currently on HBO Max if you have that, though it's also easy to find full episodes on TH-cam
The man takes a drink
The drink takes a drink
And then the drink takes the man
Serial experiments Orel
Moral Orel will always be my favorite representation of alcoholism. You want to help them or even pity them, but they say they hate you. They say they’ll kill you. They say they’ll kill themselves but can you really blame them?
8:20 this whole scene is why I feel bad for clay i also feel like he's a terrible person but he's minded is fucked that he takes it out on others