I've never heard of Neat. Does it cost much? Being on disability & a tight budget, I can't afford to pay a lot. But if there is just a one-time download purchase fee for the app in its basic form, I suppose it is a lot more affordable than purchasing a whole new scanner! (Or having to pay yet another "low monthly fee.") I'm getting "monthly fee" & "for the low price of just one cup of coffee a day"ed right into the poor-house! (I'm a tea drinker! 😆) Especially when I only use my scanner once or twice a year to upload tax information to a shared google Drive folder with the tax accountants. Does it work with all Raven scanner models? Mine isn't a pro version. If it's an affordable option, the only concern I would have is that my scanner would randomly reboot when saving. I am not a programmer, so I am shooting in the dark, but I wonder if it connecting to another network would that fix this issue? Does it work for Canadian customers. (Raven wasn't very fond of us Canucks! Lol 😜)
Great review. I love the large screen for the Raven, but am deterred by the internet requirement and the cheap look of the internal components. I went with the Epson RR-600W for my home office as well as a DS-940DW for travel.
Super helpful review. You got right to the point without rambling or getting sidetracked. (thank you !) No one scanner has it all but you got me to thinking about what is important for my needs. I don't like complicated setup (life it too short) so leaning towards Raven or Fjuitsu.
Great comparison. I opted for the Raven as well. Thanks for the tip for pushing the small receipts to the right. That solved my problem with scanning small receipts with the Raven.
ProTip: ScanSnap can do long scans. You have to hold down the blue scan button for 5 second until it turn orange. That will indicate long scan mode. Then scan the long document.
Excellent review! Only comment I can make is that on the Raven review about scan quality, I believe you said, “I was left impressed” but it sounded like you said, “I was less impressed”. Thank you for the engaging and succinct review.
You are GREAT. I loved the way you went about describing the different scanners. I was looking for the details, and you pointed them out perfectly. I hope you keep at it. Again, I loved the way you went about describing the different units and mostly their fine points. I look forward to more content from you. Ted
List of Contents: 00:00 - Intro 00:55 - Selection Process & Criteria 03:09 - Personal Intro & Request 04:28 - Raven Original Scanner Review 09:39 - Epson RR600W Review 13:02 - Fujitsu Scansnap iX1600 Review 15:33 - Things in Common 16:04 - What Scanner Will I Choose? 16:57 - Sum Up ------------------ Product Links (affiliated and not)------------------- Raven Original Scanner: amzn.to/3XV71Vn Raven Pro Scanner: amzn.to/44sv28D Raven Pro Max Scanner: amzn.to/3K1Dvrc Buy Epson RR600W Scanner: amzn.to/3pPcJf0 Buy Fujitsu Scansnap iX1600 Scanner: amzn.to/3rkULBh
To the best of my understanding, it is advisable to exercise caution when considering the usage of the RAVEN Scanner. It has come to my attention that the company has ceased its operations quietly and is no longer in business. Moreover, there are indications that the cloud service on which this scanner relies will be discontinued in the coming months. As a consequence, the scanner's functionality will be completely halted, as it is entirely dependent on this cloud service for scanning operations. Notably, even the Raven desktop software lacks the capability to scan to a local computer; it exclusively supports cloud services. Consequently, in the event that web support is terminated, there is a possibility that your investment in this device may result in a situation where you possess a relatively expensive paperweight incapable of scanning to any destination.
That is why I am here! I'm looking for a new scanner to replace my Raven (1st gen). I deserved it. I had broken my own rule of never buying an expensive (for me) "1st gen" item from a new/unknown company until the bugs had been worked out. I should've known better. But it had everything I needed at that time and was marketed quite well. At first, I loved it. It was easy to use, and I didn't need to use another machine/app to save, edit, and/or upload a scan to the cloud. This saved a ton of time. It was awesome! Until it wasn't. After a few "updates," it started to randomly shut off and then re-boot. Usually, after I had pressed "save" or "update," etc. After an edit, or a naming of a document, etc. There were a few "signs" of what was to come, right from the start. It had features for use in the US only. But was sold, full price, to all. It was like going international was an afterthought or something. Small but annoying things such as not being able to enter my mailing address into my profile on the Raven website, because I am in Canada, & not having the faxing capability outside of the US, for example, was odd. Especially when it wasn't ever rectified, even years after. Not a good sign. I also found them to be unorganized and almost treated me like I was trying to scam them when I called support. Before they believed me & finally decided to send another machine, I had to print out and send them proof of purchase from Amazon, send multiple videos, photos, etc, of the problem occurring to a few different people. And on top of sending a report directly from the machine, I also had to recreate the issue while they were on the phone, on top of my sending an additional video catching it rebooting. They didn't try anything to fix it. (I didn't think they could tbh) FINALLY they sent another machine. It was like they didn't believe it possible that there was such an issue. They did eventually send me a replacement. They sent 2, actually, and I was honest and sent one back! Lol (they had no idea they sent 2) But when the replacement did the exact same thing, I almost wish I hadn't! Lol Troubleshooting was weird. It wasn't as if I wasn't returning the original one & was trying to get another machine! It wasn't a normal "troubleshooting" call. It was kind of insulting, to be honest. Needless to say, I didn't want to go through it all again when the 2nd replacement machine did the exact same thing, so I just kept rebooting.... and with my health issues also adding to the delays, my taxes have been submitted late, twice. So I am going to try to make sure I do my research before choosing my next expensive machine! So here I am!! Thank you so much for taking the time to create this video! I'm going to watch the rest of it now. (Fastforwarding through the Raven parts, probably! Lol) You may want to add a note/update to tell viewers to NOT purchase a Raven machine now. (Even a used one!) It actually is a shame because it had potential. I had hoped the newer machines and the company had worked those beginner bugs out. I guess I'll never find out now!
Ooooo I won't be throwing mine out for a while then! I am huge for fixing/repurposing items. A bit of a rebellion against planned obsolescence. 😆 (And I love to tinker)
It basically goes to my comment in the video, go for the bigger guys. For Raven, I want to see what will happen to the scanner once they go out of business entirely. Will it still work? Will they make it work locally? Will see. I need to make a new video now, with new options. I see Epson made some new models, Will see how those perform
The Fujitsu unit can scan directly to a wirelessly connected device (Android cell phone/tablet), so is not dependent on computer being online, as reported in your review. Otherwise, very much appreciate this comparative information.
I've had the Raven Pro for over 4 years and it has been a great scanner. However, Raven is out of business. They are shutting down the Raven cloud by the end of December. It's sad that such a great product couldn't survive the market.
It's practically the same machine as RR600 just without a screen. My purpose was to go computer free route for scanning and ability to select scan folder before I press scan. It helps me organize faster and lets different people use it without ever thinking of opening up their work stations. So if you are scanning while sitting at a computer, ES400 might do it.
Unfortunately, I just saw a more recent YT video that Raven is no longer in business. I was planning to buy that one so that's bad news for me. Also, the YT video mentioned to not buy second hand Raven's as the Raven Cloud is required to be active for almost everything and it will be shut down on Dec. 31, 2023.
Never buy any product that depends on an online server to function. Over and over these companies pull this crap of bricking devices when they decide not to support them any more. NO MORE!
Please compare the PDF FILE SIZE generated by each of these scanners. For the same scan quality, EPSON continues to be much smaller in size compared to Brother scanner. I haven't tested Raven as it is not available in Australia.
I don't think it needs a review, it's practically RR600 model with Raven features of computerless operation. From the ads, I see the interface is very similar to RR600. My answer to it - Raven has better and more intuitive interface compared to it.
Since Raven is not looking like an option, which one you recommend for scanning directly to email or cloud without having to go through a computer interface, preferably?
@@RomanDoes Thanks for the reply. Yesterday we actually had just received the Raven from Amazon only to find out it was not likely to be supported once we started setting it up, so we're sending it back. After a whole lot of looking yesterday, I'm going to attempt to order an Epson DS-C480W, since it seems to check the boxes of having scan to email, scan to cloud storage services, and claims to be PC-free. I am thinking it should be similar to the Epson DS-790WN that I saw mentioned in the comments in terms of not requiring a computer, but a more compact version with a lower price point. I almost went with the ScanSnap, but from what I could tell, you still need a computer to set up some of the features like scan to email as a template profile, and it wasn't clear if that functionality was available yet on a Chromebook or Mobile. I think it may be possible that they have developed this ability or are in the process of doing so, but I didn't want to gamble on it. I just want to be able to access all of the settings on the device itself, and although I'm a bit nervous about setting up the email server, I think it is still better to not have to rely on a cloud service like Raven or ScanSnap that may not always be future proof, as Raven has taught us the hard way, and finally, I feel like I can trust the Epson brand. So we'll see...
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, if anyone buying Raven now, they should send it back even if Amazon sends it free of charge. I anticipate all units will be bricked by the end of the year, but keeping my fingers crossed. I will definitely try that same Epson unit as you got when time comes. I'm just not in rush as I have a temp backup.
@@RomanDoes No they don't. The scanner I have now, if I put multiple documents that are folded or creased in any way, it either grabs multiple pages at the same time or it doesn't detect that any pages are present. It would be nice if the one I buy in the future had been reviewed and demonstrated not to do that under different conditions. It would also be nice if it scans both sides of everything.
Yes I’ve been scouring the internet for this confirmation. I wanted to purchase a second scanner and noticed both their website and Amazon storefront had none available. Contacted customer service by email, no response, phone was disconnected. Then a week later their cloud service stated it is being discontinued and will end 12/31/23. It's unfortunate. I also needed replacement rollers for my current scanner
Thanks a lot! Watch out for Raven now as they announced they might be going out of business by the end of this year. Such a bummer... my second choice would be Fujitsu
So Raven is out of business, what's next? You still can continue using your scanner! Check this out: support.neat.com/3-rdpartyscanners/raven-pro
I've never heard of Neat. Does it cost much? Being on disability & a tight budget, I can't afford to pay a lot. But if there is just a one-time download purchase fee for the app in its basic form, I suppose it is a lot more affordable than purchasing a whole new scanner! (Or having to pay yet another "low monthly fee.") I'm getting "monthly fee" & "for the low price of just one cup of coffee a day"ed right into the poor-house! (I'm a tea drinker! 😆) Especially when I only use my scanner once or twice a year to upload tax information to a shared google Drive folder with the tax accountants. Does it work with all Raven scanner models? Mine isn't a pro version.
If it's an affordable option, the only concern I would have is that my scanner would randomly reboot when saving. I am not a programmer, so I am shooting in the dark, but I wonder if it connecting to another network would that fix this issue? Does it work for Canadian customers. (Raven wasn't very fond of us Canucks! Lol 😜)
Daaang, that just happened.
Is there a solution to scan to network and keep the OCR functionality?
time to update your video
@@synonum yep, eventually
Great review. I love the large screen for the Raven, but am deterred by the internet requirement and the cheap look of the internal components. I went with the Epson RR-600W for my home office as well as a DS-940DW for travel.
Super helpful review. You got right to the point without rambling or getting sidetracked. (thank you !) No one scanner has it all but you got me to thinking about what is important for my needs. I don't like complicated setup (life it too short) so leaning towards Raven or Fjuitsu.
Great comparison. I opted for the Raven as well. Thanks for the tip for pushing the small receipts to the right. That solved my problem with scanning small receipts with the Raven.
ProTip: ScanSnap can do long scans. You have to hold down the blue scan button for 5 second until it turn orange. That will indicate long scan mode. Then scan the long document.
Thanks forip! ScanSnap is my replacement for Raven now, as they went bust
Excellent review! Only comment I can make is that on the Raven review about scan quality, I believe you said, “I was left impressed” but it sounded like you said, “I was less impressed”. Thank you for the engaging and succinct review.
Thank you for the feedback! Will improve it next time!
You are GREAT. I loved the way you went about describing the different scanners. I was looking for the details, and you pointed them out perfectly. I hope you keep at it. Again, I loved the way you went about describing the different units and mostly their fine points. I look forward to more content from you. Ted
Thanks a lot!
List of Contents:
00:00 - Intro
00:55 - Selection Process & Criteria
03:09 - Personal Intro & Request
04:28 - Raven Original Scanner Review
09:39 - Epson RR600W Review
13:02 - Fujitsu Scansnap iX1600 Review
15:33 - Things in Common
16:04 - What Scanner Will I Choose?
16:57 - Sum Up
------------------ Product Links (affiliated and not)-------------------
Raven Original Scanner: amzn.to/3XV71Vn
Raven Pro Scanner: amzn.to/44sv28D
Raven Pro Max Scanner: amzn.to/3K1Dvrc
Buy Epson RR600W Scanner: amzn.to/3pPcJf0
Buy Fujitsu Scansnap iX1600 Scanner: amzn.to/3rkULBh
To the best of my understanding, it is advisable to exercise caution when considering the usage of the RAVEN Scanner. It has come to my attention that the company has ceased its operations quietly and is no longer in business. Moreover, there are indications that the cloud service on which this scanner relies will be discontinued in the coming months. As a consequence, the scanner's functionality will be completely halted, as it is entirely dependent on this cloud service for scanning operations. Notably, even the Raven desktop software lacks the capability to scan to a local computer; it exclusively supports cloud services. Consequently, in the event that web support is terminated, there is a possibility that your investment in this device may result in a situation where you possess a relatively expensive paperweight incapable of scanning to any destination.
yep, that's what everyone is talking about. Really curious what Raven will do with the scanner hardware and if they will unlock it in any way
That is why I am here! I'm looking for a new scanner to replace my Raven (1st gen). I deserved it. I had broken my own rule of never buying an expensive (for me) "1st gen" item from a new/unknown company until the bugs had been worked out. I should've known better. But it had everything I needed at that time and was marketed quite well.
At first, I loved it. It was easy to use, and I didn't need to use another machine/app to save, edit, and/or upload a scan to the cloud. This saved a ton of time. It was awesome! Until it wasn't. After a few "updates," it started to randomly shut off and then re-boot. Usually, after I had pressed "save" or "update," etc. After an edit, or a naming of a document, etc.
There were a few "signs" of what was to come, right from the start. It had features for use in the US only. But was sold, full price, to all. It was like going international was an afterthought or something. Small but annoying things such as not being able to enter my mailing address into my profile on the Raven website, because I am in Canada, & not having the faxing capability outside of the US, for example, was odd. Especially when it wasn't ever rectified, even years after. Not a good sign.
I also found them to be unorganized and almost treated me like I was trying to scam them when I called support. Before they believed me & finally decided to send another machine, I had to print out and send them proof of purchase from Amazon, send multiple videos, photos, etc, of the problem occurring to a few different people. And on top of sending a report directly from the machine, I also had to recreate the issue while they were on the phone, on top of my sending an additional video catching it rebooting. They didn't try anything to fix it. (I didn't think they could tbh) FINALLY they sent another machine. It was like they didn't believe it possible that there was such an issue.
They did eventually send me a replacement. They sent 2, actually, and I was honest and sent one back! Lol (they had no idea they sent 2) But when the replacement did the exact same thing, I almost wish I hadn't! Lol
Troubleshooting was weird. It wasn't as if I wasn't returning the original one & was trying to get another machine! It wasn't a normal "troubleshooting" call. It was kind of insulting, to be honest.
Needless to say, I didn't want to go through it all again when the 2nd replacement machine did the exact same thing, so I just kept rebooting.... and with my health issues also adding to the delays, my taxes have been submitted late, twice.
So I am going to try to make sure I do my research before choosing my next expensive machine! So here I am!!
Thank you so much for taking the time to create this video! I'm going to watch the rest of it now. (Fastforwarding through the Raven parts, probably! Lol)
You may want to add a note/update to tell viewers to NOT purchase a Raven machine now. (Even a used one!) It actually is a shame because it had potential. I had hoped the newer machines and the company had worked those beginner bugs out. I guess I'll never find out now!
@huckaday it's not all lost, Raven scanner can be repurposed, but for that I have to test a few work arounds.
Ooooo I won't be throwing mine out for a while then! I am huge for fixing/repurposing items. A bit of a rebellion against planned obsolescence. 😆 (And I love to tinker)
@@huckaday this is the way!
One more thing to add, would love to see the comparison with Xerox N60W also. Thanks,
I'm not a big fan of xerox all together, so that I would have to pass.
Now that Raven has gone out of business, which one would you choose?
It basically goes to my comment in the video, go for the bigger guys.
For Raven, I want to see what will happen to the scanner once they go out of business entirely. Will it still work? Will they make it work locally? Will see.
I need to make a new video now, with new options. I see Epson made some new models, Will see how those perform
@@RomanDoes , I absolutely love the Raven Pro Scanner, but there doesn't appear to be another scanner that comes close to what it will do.
@@RomanDoes Hi. I see that was 8 months ago. Did you do any updates? I love your reviews
@jojokimnyambura3852 It still scans to local folders but without OCR.
Very good review, lots of information, and easy understand.
Much appreciated! Just watch out for Raven, looks like they are gone bankrupt
you deserve many views for how much effort you out in your video, you got a like for your video :)
I don't think RR-600W needs compute to work, it can works as a standalone scanner just like Raven but without OCR.
You don't think and I know for a fact that it's useless without a computer 😀
The ix1600 will do extra long receipts if you press the scan button for 3 seconds
Thanks!
Thanks a bunch for super thanks! 🤟
The Fujitsu unit can scan directly to a wirelessly connected device (Android cell phone/tablet), so is not dependent on computer being online, as reported in your review. Otherwise, very much appreciate this comparative information.
where does it do OCR?
I've had the Raven Pro for over 4 years and it has been a great scanner. However, Raven is out of business. They are shutting down the Raven cloud by the end of December. It's sad that such a great product couldn't survive the market.
Lets see what they do with the hardware, I hope they will unlock it for use.
in the meantime, what are you thinking of replacing it with?
What do you think about the Epson Workforce ES-400 II? did you ever consider this one at its price point?
It's practically the same machine as RR600 just without a screen. My purpose was to go computer free route for scanning and ability to select scan folder before I press scan. It helps me organize faster and lets different people use it without ever thinking of opening up their work stations.
So if you are scanning while sitting at a computer, ES400 might do it.
Unfortunately, I just saw a more recent YT video that Raven is no longer in business. I was planning to buy that one so that's bad news for me. Also, the YT video mentioned to not buy second hand Raven's as the Raven Cloud is required to be active for almost everything and it will be shut down on Dec. 31, 2023.
Will see what will happen to it.
Fantastic, thanks for posting.
Glad it helped!
Great comparison. Recently I found an email from Raven in my inbox that Raven Cloud will be depreated soon. Does that effect your summary?
Will see what they will do with the hardware by the end of the year. Fujitsu was my second choice
Never buy any product that depends on an online server to function. Over and over these companies pull this crap of bricking devices when they decide not to support them any more. NO MORE!
unfortunately most modern "toys" are going with AI and all other bs which cannot be built into the device itself...
Please compare the PDF FILE SIZE generated by each of these scanners. For the same scan quality, EPSON continues to be much smaller in size compared to Brother scanner. I haven't tested Raven as it is not available in Australia.
Raven is dead. They went bust
Also file size depends on a lot of settings.
Can you review the epson ds-790WN?
I don't think it needs a review, it's practically RR600 model with Raven features of computerless operation. From the ads, I see the interface is very similar to RR600. My answer to it - Raven has better and more intuitive interface compared to it.
@@RomanDoes in that case I'll pass. I want a higher end pc based(not online) document feeder scanner. I'll look at what brother is offering.
@Ziyad S Epson and Fujitsu are quite high end. My second choice machine to go for would be Fujitsu Scansnap if I had to choose again
Since Raven is not looking like an option, which one you recommend for scanning directly to email or cloud without having to go through a computer interface, preferably?
I'm still using Raven for that, will probably make another video once Raven dies. I have Fujitsu as a backup
@@RomanDoes Thanks for the reply. Yesterday we actually had just received the Raven from Amazon only to find out it was not likely to be supported once we started setting it up, so we're sending it back. After a whole lot of looking yesterday, I'm going to attempt to order an Epson DS-C480W, since it seems to check the boxes of having scan to email, scan to cloud storage services, and claims to be PC-free. I am thinking it should be similar to the Epson DS-790WN that I saw mentioned in the comments in terms of not requiring a computer, but a more compact version with a lower price point. I almost went with the ScanSnap, but from what I could tell, you still need a computer to set up some of the features like scan to email as a template profile, and it wasn't clear if that functionality was available yet on a Chromebook or Mobile. I think it may be possible that they have developed this ability or are in the process of doing so, but I didn't want to gamble on it. I just want to be able to access all of the settings on the device itself, and although I'm a bit nervous about setting up the email server, I think it is still better to not have to rely on a cloud service like Raven or ScanSnap that may not always be future proof, as Raven has taught us the hard way, and finally, I feel like I can trust the Epson brand. So we'll see...
Thanks for sharing! Yeah, if anyone buying Raven now, they should send it back even if Amazon sends it free of charge. I anticipate all units will be bricked by the end of the year, but keeping my fingers crossed. I will definitely try that same Epson unit as you got when time comes. I'm just not in rush as I have a temp backup.
Are you an Italian???
Is it the hands or the accent made you ask that? 😀
Okay,,, Why didn't you try to scan folded documents, like ones that come in the mail?
What's special about them? They scan like any normal paper
@@RomanDoes No they don't. The scanner I have now, if I put multiple documents that are folded or creased in any way, it either grabs multiple pages at the same time or it doesn't detect that any pages are present. It would be nice if the one I buy in the future had been reviewed and demonstrated not to do that under different conditions. It would also be nice if it scans both sides of everything.
@@MrManerd you definitely have some old scanner. What model is that? Never heard such issues
@@RomanDoes Samsung C480FW
@MrManerd that's a printer with a scanner attachment. Completely different type of beast
I heard raven went out business so not an option anymor
Yep, so unfortunate 😕
Need to test the latest Epson now
Raven are great, but the company has now gone bust.
yep, waiting to see what happens to the hardware
Too bad Raven just went out of business
Really?! Where did you find that?
Yes I’ve been scouring the internet for this confirmation. I wanted to purchase a second scanner and noticed both their website and Amazon storefront had none available. Contacted customer service by email, no response, phone was disconnected. Then a week later their cloud service stated it is being discontinued and will end 12/31/23. It's unfortunate. I also needed replacement rollers for my current scanner
Thanks!
Thanks!
Thanks a lot! Watch out for Raven now as they announced they might be going out of business by the end of this year. Such a bummer... my second choice would be Fujitsu