Jongho’s throat is actually relaxed when you think he “screams”, his vocal technique is almost perfect if not perfect. A lot of vocal teachers have studied his voice and his vocal coach is also one of the best of the country. His voice is just that powerful. You can see it when he sings live. 😊
29:19 you losing your words and just ending your sentence with "I'm straight, I'm straight, I'm straight..." is probably the funniest thing you've said
20:00 to answer your question about Yeosang and Wooyoung ‘failing’, Yeosang left big hit under his own account, I’m not sure why he left, though. And Wooyoung followed Yeosang to kq because he wanted to debut with him, hence “if we make it, we make it together, if we fail, we fail together”
@@Idontknow-gp9kh I know it's common, doesn't mean I like it. And I know they say it themselves but it's doesn't stop being sexist. And again, the members call them normally older brothers, you can count with your hands the few times they called them parents.. And if they do I prefer them saying it not the fans that exaggerated it and even made it part of their personality and in guides🙃
@@vanessarl8who cares if you like it or not…? no one is going to cater to you. the members themselves referred to them as this (doesn’t matter how many times), so ofc fans are going to refer to them as such too. 🤷 if you don’t like it, cope.
To answer your question, their mv's are not all in order. Some do follow after the other but according to HongJoong, their Fever album series comes first in terms of their storyline. Also the songs in the video you asked about were Eternal Sunshine and Thanxx
I heard in your comment for Jung ho that you said it sounds like he’s screaming when he sings so just for you to see how good of a singer he is check out immortal songs to where he performs a song called So you so you can see just how perfection his voice sounds. Please check that out. he was on a show with another young person where he was singing, a song, slow songs, where you can hear his voice very well you need to see these, so you can see he’s not a screamer when he sings his favorite song sing our ballads
Seonghwa is a very beautiful and handsome man. Elegant and graceful but also powerful and dominant. He's the mom of the group, a huge goofball, and looks like god's most beautiful angel, but don't let that fool you. He is part of the Demon Line afterall xD Seonghwa and Hongjoong both talk about how they'd like for clothing to be genderless, and so you'll after see them (moreso Seonghwa) wearing lots of clothing that could be (or is labeled as) women's clothing but tailored for male bodies, whether it's the fabric is lace, velvet, or sheer, maybe there's pearls and jewels, choker necklaces, corsets, elbow-length gloves, bold eyeshadow and lipstick, jewels on their face or hair, etc. Not necessarily genderless as in an absence of anything/androgynous, but genderless as in nothing is inherently masculine or feminine, it's all just clothes. And gosh do I love them for that! I feel the same way too, I don't even like the dad and mom things, because anyone can be nurturing or a disciplinarian blah blah. But I guess we go with these descriptions because of generalizations of genders. Which I find horribly ironic to place gender-roles on ATEEZ who fight so hard against gender roles. But anyway.. It's okay to think they are beautiful, that's what they work hard to achieve with crazy skin care, health, and beauty routines so props to them for that hard work to always look on point, even to make straight men pause ;P It's the "visual" role of a group to be able to do that, it doesn't mean about yourself, just means they're reallllly good at what they're doing lol
this guide is alright but i really recommend the ultimate guide to ateez 2023 by allthekennys (the one that’s over and hour) cus it really good and goes in depth into them!!
Mom and Dad only means that Dad is the Leader and tough one who disciplines the young members. and Mom is the most caring that always reminds them to behave properly everywhere 😍😍😍 #ATEEZ is like a family for them not just because they were all thrown in the group to complete a team. Even their parents are close and hangs out together irl Awesome right? Their friendship and closeness is indeed sincere not scripted. Mom and Dad of the group is because they all started very young. Jungho the youngest of all was only 17 back then 🥰
Most reactors will do the longer guides. Just break it up and watch it over 2 or 3 videos. I know it gives you more vids to edit, but if you really like a group it's worth it to learn about what the group values and stands for, their accomplishments, their hardships and struggles, and the incredible relationship they have with their fandom that goes both ways. I also suggest watching a guide for the groups' lore, especially Ateez lore. It truly is the best in kpop and Atiny go absolutely mental at their concerts, especially on Guerrilla and The Ring strictly due to the lore, it's Lord of the Rings/Hunger Games epic saga level complex. I recommend the guide by Eterniteez for their lore. It's broken up over 6 or 7, 20-30 min videos and the lore and worlds are still growing with each comeback.
26:40 From what I've heard about Ateez, they were more popular internationally than they were in Korea right after their debut, so the lack of big crowds make sense. But yeah security does also play into it.
The light hearted guide is my favorite because it shows the goofier side of ATEEZ. The ultimate guide takes every point here and expands on it more. And honestly I have so much ish to add to here and answer all those questions that I’m not gonna bother. I’ll throw it all in the discord lol
the song you referred to at 10:42 is Eternal Sunshine, They are not only on heavy rock theme they can also sing like Turbulence, iLLusion, Utopia, Eternal Sunshine, Thanxx, Promise, Take Me Home and more. Their discography is so diverse your gonna love it! 🤩
the only really good guides are the hour long ones. theyre the only ones that are going to give you actual information or tell you stuff about the group.
This was a good introduction guide! If you want to get a little more deeper into ateez’s stuff then I recommend ‘the ultimate guide to ateez 2023’ from ofallthekennys
"aces" would be a cute fandom name ngl, but the term "ace" already means something in the kpop-sphere, plus A.C.E. is the name of a whole group so....lol honestly...ignore the whole "mom & dad of the group" stuff. it's started as a joke ATEEZ came up with themselves, then parts of the fandom took it and ran, and now they don't know when to stop...it really doesn't apply anymore--especially since ATEEZ has one of the smallest age gaps between the oldest & youngest members i've ever seen in a k-pop group. they act just like a bunch of best friends imo. Jongho's technique is impeccable, but i understand why you think he's just screaming. my guess is you simply dislike the tone of his voice when he belts those high notes; therefore, as a non-vocalist, you assume he must be doing something wrong. turns out, it's completely normal to not like the sound of someone's singing voice even though they're doing everything right technique-wise. i'm not sure how you're going to make it through ATEEZ' banger discography feeling that way though. after all, Jongho is the main vocalist & the only one in the group who can safely hit those notes on a regular basis....but keep up the honesty lmaooo 😂 the longer guide would've been wayyy more worth your time than this one imo, but i appreciate the reaction nonetheless 👍🏽
This reaction was so fun!! Thank you for checking this out. Of course there was much more good stuff in the longer one but I had a great time. Thank you!
He is called that bc of a character called Minky princess and bc as Mingi said he was raised spoiled like a princess. And his mom didn't thought they were dating that was a mistranslation, an atiny said that it was “Mingi-ya, isn’t it better if you two go for a heavier atmosphere?” That is a literal translation, but “heavier” here I think is closer to “be more serious/mature
@vanessarl8 the mom asked "mingiya don't you think the atmosphere between you two is a little heavy for friends" and before you come at me I speak Korean...all through this comment section you've been spewing nothing but nonsense 😑😑
@@AteezfashionI just copied what that atiny said who also knows korean and either way they said she probably meant another thing with heavier. I don't think she meant that and if she did do you really think I would care?? I don't, I just don't like mistranslations and misunderstandings.
@@Ateezfashion I just went to check the live again to be sure and wether that atiny has the correct translation or you, it totally was misinterpreted bc if you see what they said bf that you can understand the context and there is no way she meant as in dating? Search Yunho mingi live, the first that pops up, around minute 18 and onwards. If you don't see it explain it to me please bc I don't get how it has been interpreted that way and really think it was out of context
This guide is funny and all but it just lack of information. 25:24 Treasure film is one of their many variety shows. You should watch it if you have time. 😊
when x died did i cry? bro im still tryna recover from his death and i still listen to him, he was my favorite artist of all time 😭 edit: 8:24 + 10:36 been dying for u to watch this mv i think i suggested it every time u posted a ateez video😭 its eternal sunshine 23:07 you definitely need to see his official covers and the lee mujin interview where he sings, he has insane range that we dont see/hear often in ateez songs, the immortal songs ones and the kingdom performances as well 26:04 this is treasure film which has 3 parts where they do challenges and some bts of the challenges (longer vers) they filmed in australia also please, i highly suggest you watch the long guide and cut it up into parts it and watch it over days if you cant do it in one sitting, it has more in depth explanations and it is worth it if you truly want to learn about ateez as a group and their friendships AND them individually, like someone else commented! i think it’s really important to know but at the end it is up to you, these short guides don’t do ateez justice is what we’re trying to say
At the beginning when ATEEZ debuted Hongjoong and Seonghwa felt that as the oldest of the group they needed to watch over the others and discipline them so they themselves took a dad a mom role but as time passed they realized they all could communicate and understood each other better so they don’t go calling themselves dad and mom anymore (it is now more a fandom thing that Hongjoong and Seonghwa gives off that parents vibes if I’m not mistaken)
23:01 i disagree with u but im not gonna say anything. If anyone from X finds this i’ll pray for u rip. Also Idk who recommended this guide because it isn’t that good😭 ofallthekennys guide is the most well made guide I’ve seen of ateez so far
7:58 *Okay firstly this guide does NOT do them justice, you’ve done the another one with more information.* We fans don’t mind sitting thru long reactions but if you think it’s too long, make it into 2-parts or watch it in your free time. *I get there’s much you don’t understand since you’re new and don’t get the inside lingo behind some of the nicknames and such. Long story short in almost every group there with two older members and youngest (baby) then everyone else in between, the groups that have leaders who are either the oldest or middle along with the next oldest member; they’re looked at as the parents (mom & dad) of the group like a family aka a brotherhood or sisterhood when its a female group.*
1:45 aces would be a good fandom name if there wasn't already a kpop group named A.C.E (the dots aren't pronounced) that debuted a few years before ATEEZ, also the term "ace" is very widely used in kpop circles to refer to a variety of idols so it would create confusion and interfere with Internet searches.
20:00 about getting into bighit/hybe its not really an exclusive big company thing as its a kpop thing, it is extremely often to hear about kpop idols bouncing between companies trying to debut. Before kpop idols are idols they are trainees and you can be a trainee for the same company for literal YEARS you could have joined the trainee program at 8 and not debut until you're like 20 and even then its a extremely slim number of people who do debut. The older you get the less likely it will be for you to debut and companies at MOST debut a 4-8 member group every year or 2 some don't debut groups for years, so to increase your chances sometimes you might need to quickly join a company who is planning to debut a group soon.
I started to miss your ateez reactions BUT A GUIDE? nah that’s a sweet surprise. 10:42 the song is called eternal sunshine and the second title track of the same album deja vu came from! And quickly to jongho’s vocals. I can see why you’d think this way. Many do but that’s mostly due to the tone he uses. jongho sings in a half nasal tone simply because he’s the most comfortable doing so. he’s not screaming at all but it’s a thing of preference really. 29:30 was so funny omg 😭😭
Dude….going at Jongho’s vocals like that is crazy…”screaming”?? Srsly? this man has one of the best if not THE BEST voices in kpop. His technique , his range, his delivery? I’m really curious as to how many true vocalists you’ve actually listened to? Maybe watch a bit more (Immortal Songs=PERFECTION)) So you can get see this master at work. There is nothing “screaming” about him.🤦🏽♀️
Why you makin it seem like I was doggin bro out? 💀 I’m not coming after him, it’s just a personal thing and that’s it. I’ve heard many vocalists and I’m just not too big of a fan of his. That’s all, no disrespect lmfaoo 💀
Jongho doesn't sound strained or that he is screaming, that is literally how u pull of high notes bro. U wouldn't know since u can't and also u r not into vocals so u don't know anything about vocal techniques.
1:34 I know you have questions & curious but like you pausing so much, lad. Your questions be answered within the guide and no fandom names usually picked carefully so that there’s no clashing with other fandoms or groups thats have that name already plus *ACES is already taken but I don’t remember the name of the group of that fandom plus there is usually always a meaning behind each fandom and group names.*
This guide is made for the owner’s friends not really that good for getting to know the boys, so many inside jokes and the way the information is just jokes is not helpful in any way :) the boys grew up alot and became more mature they’re men now and there’s a 30 min guide by allthekennys that actually shows the growth and hardships they overcome better than these inside jokes because they’re artists first and you should get to know their artistic self first! all those guides that are full of jokes should stop really.
I'm putting this here cause you seemed a bit confused or uncomfy with some parts of their personalities n looks. Seonghwa (Song Hwa), Yeosang (Yoh sang) are visuals as well, meaning they are within the "korean beauty standards" n are like faces of the group. San is unofficially a visual, since a lot of people are drawn to his fierce visuals. PS. The beauty standards is Asia can be shit, with Korean Fans saying that someone like RM from BTS or Hwasa from Mamamoo, aren't fcking gorgeous. For example, Changbin n Chan fron SKZ won't fall into the beauty standards because of something like Chan's nose or Changbins cheeks (even his muscles n weight) it's ridiculous n toxic. Seonghwa is jokingly called "mom" a lot by Ateez, the staff (kq editors) n atinys. Or he's called Mother too on tik tok n twitter (its queer/lgbtq+ slang for someone thats really badass, really pretty n doesn't matter if you're male/fem, it comes from drag queen culture where drag mothers are basically the leaders in the house, think Rupaul, he's the ultimate drag mother, Hwa n lots of Kpop Idols are called Mother because of their styles & their personalities) Seonghwa is also very comfortable in what you would call " women's" clothing. Stating that his style is "genderless" (said by himself in an interview) Hongjoong is jokingly called the Dad because of his Captain (leader of the group) status and the respect that the group carries for him. Again, he's called the Dad by Ateez themselves n even the staff. He has sacrificed a lot for Ateez, which this Guide has not touched on. I highly recommend the Guide by Allofthe Kennys (if you dont want to edit a long guide like that, its okay, just watch it in your free time to get a better understanding of each member's personality n roles) Hongjoong is also someone that doesn't care for gender in fashion, so he wears whatever n has stated in the same interview that if he were to have a fashion brand in the future, the clothes would be genderless/unisex. Keyword, "jokingly" been called Mom n Dad, by Ateez members. It's been done by them (ateez n staff, editors or interviews) in vlogs, interviews n stuff. It's not really calling them parents, Ateez members already have their loving parents, but they just see Matz as their older brothers or Hyungs of course that they can lean on or come to like "parents". Also Matz stand for eldest in the group n was coined by Hongjoong n Seonghwa. (I'm just clearing up the jokes from the guide and what you may see in the fandom). Yeosang (Yoh sang) is very gorgeous, nicknamed the "Son of Aphrodite" for his stricking visuals. But he's not afraid of also being buff n pretty at the same time. He's an incredible mix of both. Seonghwa as well can slip into the pretty or masculine really well. They can be very androgynous (feminine or masculine depending on the stage, the concept, the mv or the performance. He's a part of the Demon line for a Reason. Take for example Crazy Form MV, Seonghwa was representing the Statue of Liberty for Freedom in Ateez Lore, so he would fit more into an androgynous or feminine look. Now this is not to downplay their genders, they are still very much men, but just men that are comfortable with trying new things n stepping outside of the gender stereotypes). Seonghwa n Yeosang being called "Gender Envys" because they can look good in feminine clothing, embrace their feminine sides n also be both incredibly masculine on stage or when it calls it. They are secure n comfortable in their gender identity n are not afraid to say so. Mingi is Nicknamed "Princess" or Pink Princess because of Yunho (but apparently, it comes from a popular manhwa character names princess Minky, and also according to Mingi himself he was raised spoiled from his mom like a princess). Yunho also said he calls him that cause he sees Mingi as someone that needs extra love and to be taken care of (in one of the Ateez vlogs) Yunho is Mingis closest friend and is called Yun-Hoe a lot cause when those two are together they can either be really cute or really sus😭 Mingi may look tough, but he's very sensitive and sweet. So there are times where the members will take extra care of him. About Jongho's vocals, he's a very strong vocalist. I can't remember the term they use for it musically but i know that a lot of Seniors in Music n Korea as a whole have been blown away by his singing. (note, I just looked up his vocals n a lot of ppl compare his singing to Freddy Mercury, the lead singer of the Band Queen). He's a Power Vocal, someone you can hear across an arena if the mic stops working. Sometimes it may seem like he's screaming, probably because the mic was too close (eg, head mics) n it was his first time doing a note live, but he ALWAYS hits it perfectly after that😌 Now Ateez as a whole are filled with lightskinness n rizz, but they are also really sweet. They are very close to each other, basically a family. So they will be very cuddly, especially Wooyoung. Jongho n Hongjoong aren't very touchy ppl, but sometimes they reach out. The rest of members don't mind and appreciate skinship (cuddling, even kisses n hugs, this is a very common thing in kpop n can be used as fan service, but a lot of groups are just that close, like ateez, stray kids, got7, dreamcatcher n so on) Next, i mentioned a lot LGBTQ+ n the community. Mind you, I'm just an Ally, so this is being taken from Hongjoong n LGBTQ+ Atinys. Hongjoong is known for showing support to the LGBTQ+ community being someone that advocates for the community with campaigns n stating that "Ateez draws a lot of Inspiration from the community" to a fan during a fancall (I think the fan was a member of the community too) and San even saying to a Trans Person on a fan call, that "it doesn't matter their gender, all that matters is what's in their heart". San, Seonghwa n Woo young also pays a lot of attention to slang n International Atinys online, one time San calling Yeosang "Mother" in an Interview (remember Mother can mean badass, sexy, cool n so on regardless of gender and it's like the highest compliment taken from drag culture). This group all in all, is very "sus" to outsiders, but just very close to each other n aren't afraid to show it. Like in a good way. I'm letting you know before you get into their personalities because i realised for a lot of Straight Male Reactors that they get into Ateez n are shocked by their closeness. But Ateez n a lot of Kpop groups just come from a different culture, where being close is normal, regardless of gender n the LGBTQ community is still wildly frowned upon. Also since they have known each other for 5+ years, lived together, roomed together (not counting ppl like Mingi n Yunho or Woo n Yeosang that have known each othe for 8+ years) so they are bound to be close. They are very sweet, very good people that I am proud to be called an Atiny. You also mentioned the Fandom name. I love it, cause it ties into them in reality n the lore. We're their Treasure at the end of the Treasure Album Series, we're their Lightinys, the reason why the Fandom lightstick comes in a Treasure Box, We're their Destiny and I'm good without changing the name. Hope this helps clear things up a bit before you dive deeper into Kpop as a whole. I have been loving your journey so far. Please don't take this the wrong way, i just wanted you to understand a bit more 💜 I also Highly recommend the guide by AlloftheKennys, even if you can just watch it in your free time, its the best guide for Ateez out there. Thank you again for reacting.
The princess nickname is not bc of Yunho, it comes from a popular manhwa character names princess Minky, and also according to Mingi himself he was raised spoiled from his mom like a princess so that's why xD And also that they may have called Matz as mom and dad specially bf, but they call them the most older brothers not parents!
@@vanessarl8that’s mostly true. They also call them mom and dad. A lot of their other content shows them saying “Eomma, Appa…” it’s even shown in the longer Ateez guide made by Of All The Kenny’s
@@evilangel21 Ik that's why I said they call them mostly hyungs/older brothers, bc you can count with your hands the times they called them mom and dad.
9:21 Its because they grew up around it plus im sorry you getting pulled way into too much of the fan-made content and allot of it not always true, It’s there to manipulate public view to make you think its real 🤔🫤 thats why if I don’t hear it from their mouth directly Im not going to believe it.
Sorry, but you chose a very strange guide. there is a lot of unnecessary water here, and very little really useful information. a lot of necessary and interesting things are missing in this cringe guide...
Sorry if this wasn't the right guide. There's a lot lol, but this one is good enough for me ngl.
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Jongho’s throat is actually relaxed when you think he “screams”, his vocal technique is almost perfect if not perfect. A lot of vocal teachers have studied his voice and his vocal coach is also one of the best of the country. His voice is just that powerful. You can see it when he sings live. 😊
The fans didn’t do it. The members themselves call Hongjoong “dad” and Seonghwa “mom” cause of their personalities
Ohhhh ok
29:19 you losing your words and just ending your sentence with "I'm straight, I'm straight, I'm straight..." is probably the funniest thing you've said
Fr I legit cackled at that 😂 wait till he runs across one of the "Ateez as girls" TikToks 😂
20:00 to answer your question about Yeosang and Wooyoung ‘failing’, Yeosang left big hit under his own account, I’m not sure why he left, though. And Wooyoung followed Yeosang to kq because he wanted to debut with him, hence “if we make it, we make it together, if we fail, we fail together”
Good friend tbh, because that’s a big accomplishment. But still, he’s shining in KQ and same with the other members. So a win is a win 🤷🏿‼️
Hongjoong is the "dad". He disciplines and leads. Seonghwa is the "mom". He's very nurturing. Its common to describe KPop members as parents.
Ooooo ok
That's sexist af, they don't only do that and the guys refer to them normally as older brothers not parents so I hope we drop the parentification :)
@@vanessarl8 the members themselves call them by these terms it’s actually extremely common in a lot of K-pop group
@@Idontknow-gp9kh I know it's common, doesn't mean I like it. And I know they say it themselves but it's doesn't stop being sexist. And again, the members call them normally older brothers, you can count with your hands the few times they called them parents..
And if they do I prefer them saying it not the fans that exaggerated it and even made it part of their personality and in guides🙃
@@vanessarl8who cares if you like it or not…? no one is going to cater to you. the members themselves referred to them as this (doesn’t matter how many times), so ofc fans are going to refer to them as such too. 🤷 if you don’t like it, cope.
“what is he bout to do to him bruh?” sounds like me at least 3 times i watch any ateez video😭😭
To answer your question, their mv's are not all in order. Some do follow after the other but according to HongJoong, their Fever album series comes first in terms of their storyline.
Also the songs in the video you asked about were Eternal Sunshine and Thanxx
I heard in your comment for Jung ho that you said it sounds like he’s screaming when he sings so just for you to see how good of a singer he is check out immortal songs to where he performs a song called
So you so you can see just how perfection his voice sounds. Please check that out. he was on a show with another young person where he was singing, a song, slow songs, where you can hear his voice very well you need to see these, so you can see he’s not a screamer when he sings his favorite song sing our ballads
I’ll check this out
Seonghwa is a very beautiful and handsome man. Elegant and graceful but also powerful and dominant. He's the mom of the group, a huge goofball, and looks like god's most beautiful angel, but don't let that fool you. He is part of the Demon Line afterall xD Seonghwa and Hongjoong both talk about how they'd like for clothing to be genderless, and so you'll after see them (moreso Seonghwa) wearing lots of clothing that could be (or is labeled as) women's clothing but tailored for male bodies, whether it's the fabric is lace, velvet, or sheer, maybe there's pearls and jewels, choker necklaces, corsets, elbow-length gloves, bold eyeshadow and lipstick, jewels on their face or hair, etc. Not necessarily genderless as in an absence of anything/androgynous, but genderless as in nothing is inherently masculine or feminine, it's all just clothes. And gosh do I love them for that! I feel the same way too, I don't even like the dad and mom things, because anyone can be nurturing or a disciplinarian blah blah. But I guess we go with these descriptions because of generalizations of genders. Which I find horribly ironic to place gender-roles on ATEEZ who fight so hard against gender roles. But anyway.. It's okay to think they are beautiful, that's what they work hard to achieve with crazy skin care, health, and beauty routines so props to them for that hard work to always look on point, even to make straight men pause ;P It's the "visual" role of a group to be able to do that, it doesn't mean about yourself, just means they're reallllly good at what they're doing lol
Its also very common to compare people to animals over there. That was a culture shock for me when i first got into K Pop.
Yeah I heard about this one
this guide is alright but i really recommend the ultimate guide to ateez 2023 by allthekennys (the one that’s over and hour) cus it really good and goes in depth into them!!
I’ll check it out
Mom and Dad only means that Dad is the Leader and tough one who disciplines the young members.
and Mom is the most caring that always reminds them to behave properly everywhere 😍😍😍
#ATEEZ is like a family for them not just because they were all thrown in the group to complete a team.
Even their parents are close and hangs out together irl
Awesome right? Their friendship and closeness is indeed sincere not scripted.
Mom and Dad of the group is because they all started very young. Jungho the youngest of all was only 17 back then 🥰
Most reactors will do the longer guides. Just break it up and watch it over 2 or 3 videos. I know it gives you more vids to edit, but if you really like a group it's worth it to learn about what the group values and stands for, their accomplishments, their hardships and struggles, and the incredible relationship they have with their fandom that goes both ways. I also suggest watching a guide for the groups' lore, especially Ateez lore. It truly is the best in kpop and Atiny go absolutely mental at their concerts, especially on Guerrilla and The Ring strictly due to the lore, it's Lord of the Rings/Hunger Games epic saga level complex. I recommend the guide by Eterniteez for their lore. It's broken up over 6 or 7, 20-30 min videos and the lore and worlds are still growing with each comeback.
i second this!
26:40 From what I've heard about Ateez, they were more popular internationally than they were in Korea right after their debut, so the lack of big crowds make sense. But yeah security does also play into it.
Ah ok that makes sense
This is also just after debut, they were still very much unknown because they were from a tiny company.
There was a crowd just behind the cameras.
The light hearted guide is my favorite because it shows the goofier side of ATEEZ. The ultimate guide takes every point here and expands on it more.
And honestly I have so much ish to add to here and answer all those questions that I’m not gonna bother. I’ll throw it all in the discord lol
the song you referred to at 10:42 is Eternal Sunshine, They are not only on heavy rock theme they can also sing like Turbulence, iLLusion, Utopia, Eternal Sunshine, Thanxx, Promise, Take Me Home and more. Their discography is so diverse your gonna love it! 🤩
i know mingi has mentioned liking tokyo ghoul before--and for his birthday yunho cosplayed as saiki k
I think I’ve seen his saki k cosplay
the only really good guides are the hour long ones. theyre the only ones that are going to give you actual information or tell you stuff about the group.
Bet, I’ll check those out then because I deadass kinda knew some of the stuff in this guide 💀
7:22 that song is THANXX its rlly good
10:15 FUN FACT i remember this moment, he made a live and i said "nah go to sleep man" and then i saw that he takes FOUR HOURS to finalize that live 💀
This was a good introduction guide! If you want to get a little more deeper into ateez’s stuff then I recommend ‘the ultimate guide to ateez 2023’ from ofallthekennys
"aces" would be a cute fandom name ngl, but the term "ace" already means something in the kpop-sphere, plus A.C.E. is the name of a whole group so....lol
honestly...ignore the whole "mom & dad of the group" stuff. it's started as a joke ATEEZ came up with themselves, then parts of the fandom took it and ran, and now they don't know when to stop...it really doesn't apply anymore--especially since ATEEZ has one of the smallest age gaps between the oldest & youngest members i've ever seen in a k-pop group. they act just like a bunch of best friends imo.
Jongho's technique is impeccable, but i understand why you think he's just screaming. my guess is you simply dislike the tone of his voice when he belts those high notes; therefore, as a non-vocalist, you assume he must be doing something wrong. turns out, it's completely normal to not like the sound of someone's singing voice even though they're doing everything right technique-wise. i'm not sure how you're going to make it through ATEEZ' banger discography feeling that way though. after all, Jongho is the main vocalist & the only one in the group who can safely hit those notes on a regular basis....but keep up the honesty lmaooo 😂
the longer guide would've been wayyy more worth your time than this one imo, but i appreciate the reaction nonetheless 👍🏽
This reaction was so fun!!
Thank you for checking this out. Of course there was much more good stuff in the longer one but I had a great time.
Thank you!
Yunho calls Mingi princess. They’re so close Mingi’s mom thought they were dating
Shiiiit I lowkey would’ve too 😭😭
He is called that bc of a character called Minky princess and bc as Mingi said he was raised spoiled like a princess.
And his mom didn't thought they were dating that was a mistranslation, an atiny said that it was
“Mingi-ya, isn’t it better if you two go for a heavier atmosphere?” That is a literal translation, but “heavier” here I think is closer to “be more serious/mature
@vanessarl8 the mom asked "mingiya don't you think the atmosphere between you two is a little heavy for friends" and before you come at me I speak Korean...all through this comment section you've been spewing nothing but nonsense 😑😑
@@AteezfashionI just copied what that atiny said who also knows korean and either way they said she probably meant another thing with heavier. I don't think she meant that and if she did do you really think I would care?? I don't, I just don't like mistranslations and misunderstandings.
@@Ateezfashion I just went to check the live again to be sure and wether that atiny has the correct translation or you, it totally was misinterpreted bc if you see what they said bf that you can understand the context and there is no way she meant as in dating? Search Yunho mingi live, the first that pops up, around minute 18 and onwards.
If you don't see it explain it to me please bc I don't get how it has been interpreted that way and really think it was out of context
Tk you know more than the guide
LMFAOO 😭 nah just bits and pieces
This guide is funny and all but it just lack of information. 25:24 Treasure film is one of their many variety shows. You should watch it if you have time. 😊
that mingi part about being sus is killing me bro yunho a victim 😭
when x died did i cry? bro im still tryna recover from his death and i still listen to him, he was my favorite artist of all time 😭
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8:24 + 10:36 been dying for u to watch this mv i think i suggested it every time u posted a ateez video😭 its eternal sunshine
23:07 you definitely need to see his official covers and the lee mujin interview where he sings, he has insane range that we dont see/hear often in ateez songs, the immortal songs ones and the kingdom performances as well
26:04 this is treasure film which has 3 parts where they do challenges and some bts of the challenges (longer vers) they filmed in australia
also please, i highly suggest you watch the long guide and cut it up into parts it and watch it over days if you cant do it in one sitting, it has more in depth explanations and it is worth it if you truly want to learn about ateez as a group and their friendships AND them individually, like someone else commented! i think it’s really important to know but at the end it is up to you, these short guides don’t do ateez justice is what we’re trying to say
Alright you got a point, I’ll check out the longer guide. 💀
@@tkdotoomuch yay! cant wait🥰
BTW IF I OFFENDED ANYONE IN THIS IM SORRY I MEANT NOTHING IN A NEGATIVE WAY AT ALL ‼️‼️
At the beginning when ATEEZ debuted Hongjoong and Seonghwa felt that as the oldest of the group they needed to watch over the others and discipline them so they themselves took a dad a mom role but as time passed they realized they all could communicate and understood each other better so they don’t go calling themselves dad and mom anymore (it is now more a fandom thing that Hongjoong and Seonghwa gives off that parents vibes if I’m not mistaken)
23:01 i disagree with u but im not gonna say anything. If anyone from X finds this i’ll pray for u rip. Also Idk who recommended this guide because it isn’t that good😭 ofallthekennys guide is the most well made guide I’ve seen of ateez so far
I was gonna do the hour one but ngl I didn’t wanna watch an hour guide 💀
agree
@@tkdotoomuch This guide didnt do you justice because you already know most of it. Lol 😂
7:58 *Okay firstly this guide does NOT do them justice, you’ve done the another one with more information.* We fans don’t mind sitting thru long reactions but if you think it’s too long, make it into 2-parts or watch it in your free time. *I get there’s much you don’t understand since you’re new and don’t get the inside lingo behind some of the nicknames and such. Long story short in almost every group there with two older members and youngest (baby) then everyone else in between, the groups that have leaders who are either the oldest or middle along with the next oldest member; they’re looked at as the parents (mom & dad) of the group like a family aka a brotherhood or sisterhood when its a female group.*
Would love to see you check out the Halloween performance of Pirate King that you saw a clip of in the guide where they were zombies.😊
X is still my favorite rapper , although I don’t listen to him as much as I used to ❤
1:45 aces would be a good fandom name if there wasn't already a kpop group named A.C.E (the dots aren't pronounced) that debuted a few years before ATEEZ, also the term "ace" is very widely used in kpop circles to refer to a variety of idols so it would create confusion and interfere with Internet searches.
8:20 TK you just stop looking at my man 🥱
That’s all you Deedee 💀
broo whoever made that guide is weird ngl 😭
Damn it’s that bad? 😭😭
@@tkdotoomuchIt’s so bad and cringey asf😭😭😭😭😭
right it's like a new fan just dumped the first things they saw on atiny twitter into the video😭
20:00 about getting into bighit/hybe its not really an exclusive big company thing as its a kpop thing, it is extremely often to hear about kpop idols bouncing between companies trying to debut. Before kpop idols are idols they are trainees and you can be a trainee for the same company for literal YEARS you could have joined the trainee program at 8 and not debut until you're like 20 and even then its a extremely slim number of people who do debut.
The older you get the less likely it will be for you to debut and companies at MOST debut a 4-8 member group every year or 2 some don't debut groups for years, so to increase your chances sometimes you might need to quickly join a company who is planning to debut a group soon.
you should definitely react to black cat nero by ateez if u havent yet, its lit my fav song from them
Hello, I'm not very good at English, I'm using a translator, could you activate the video subtitles for all languages please?
Oh yeah I forgot to do that 😭
I started to miss your ateez reactions BUT A GUIDE? nah that’s a sweet surprise.
10:42 the song is called eternal sunshine and the second title track of the same album deja vu came from!
And quickly to jongho’s vocals. I can see why you’d think this way. Many do but that’s mostly due to the tone he uses. jongho sings in a half nasal tone simply because he’s the most comfortable doing so. he’s not screaming at all but it’s a thing of preference really.
29:30 was so funny omg 😭😭
This guide was not that informative tbh but you already know alot
I actually did cry when x died lmao. 😭
Let's goooo
9:53 the way I hollered 🤣
Dude….going at Jongho’s vocals like that is crazy…”screaming”?? Srsly? this man has one of the best if not THE BEST voices in kpop. His technique , his range, his delivery? I’m really curious as to how many true vocalists you’ve actually listened to? Maybe watch a bit more (Immortal Songs=PERFECTION)) So you can get see this master at work. There is nothing “screaming” about him.🤦🏽♀️
Why you makin it seem like I was doggin bro out? 💀 I’m not coming after him, it’s just a personal thing and that’s it. I’ve heard many vocalists and I’m just not too big of a fan of his. That’s all, no disrespect lmfaoo 💀
Ajjajajaja its so funny being atiny. Ateez just chage por lives
Jongho doesn't sound strained or that he is screaming, that is literally how u pull of high notes bro. U wouldn't know since u can't and also u r not into vocals so u don't know anything about vocal techniques.
1:34 I know you have questions & curious but like you pausing so much, lad. Your questions be answered within the guide and no fandom names usually picked carefully so that there’s no clashing with other fandoms or groups thats have that name already plus *ACES is already taken but I don’t remember the name of the group of that fandom plus there is usually always a meaning behind each fandom and group names.*
This guide is made for the owner’s friends not really that good for getting to know the boys, so many inside jokes and the way the information is just jokes is not helpful in any way :) the boys grew up alot and became more mature they’re men now and there’s a 30 min guide by allthekennys that actually shows the growth and hardships they overcome better than these inside jokes because they’re artists first and you should get to know their artistic self first! all those guides that are full of jokes should stop really.
ignore the mom and dad stuff, they’re the corny part of kpop lmao 😂
this is the woest guide
agree
I'm putting this here cause you seemed a bit confused or uncomfy with some parts of their personalities n looks.
Seonghwa (Song Hwa), Yeosang (Yoh sang) are visuals as well, meaning they are within the "korean beauty standards" n are like faces of the group. San is unofficially a visual, since a lot of people are drawn to his fierce visuals. PS. The beauty standards is Asia can be shit, with Korean Fans saying that someone like RM from BTS or Hwasa from Mamamoo, aren't fcking gorgeous. For example, Changbin n Chan fron SKZ won't fall into the beauty standards because of something like Chan's nose or Changbins cheeks (even his muscles n weight) it's ridiculous n toxic.
Seonghwa is jokingly called "mom" a lot by Ateez, the staff (kq editors) n atinys. Or he's called Mother too on tik tok n twitter (its queer/lgbtq+ slang for someone thats really badass, really pretty n doesn't matter if you're male/fem, it comes from drag queen culture where drag mothers are basically the leaders in the house, think Rupaul, he's the ultimate drag mother, Hwa n lots of Kpop Idols are called Mother because of their styles & their personalities) Seonghwa is also very comfortable in what you would call " women's" clothing. Stating that his style is "genderless" (said by himself in an interview)
Hongjoong is jokingly called the Dad because of his Captain (leader of the group) status and the respect that the group carries for him. Again, he's called the Dad by Ateez themselves n even the staff. He has sacrificed a lot for Ateez, which this Guide has not touched on. I highly recommend the Guide by Allofthe Kennys (if you dont want to edit a long guide like that, its okay, just watch it in your free time to get a better understanding of each member's personality n roles) Hongjoong is also someone that doesn't care for gender in fashion, so he wears whatever n has stated in the same interview that if he were to have a fashion brand in the future, the clothes would be genderless/unisex.
Keyword, "jokingly" been called Mom n Dad, by Ateez members. It's been done by them (ateez n staff, editors or interviews) in vlogs, interviews n stuff. It's not really calling them parents, Ateez members already have their loving parents, but they just see Matz as their older brothers or Hyungs of course that they can lean on or come to like "parents". Also Matz stand for eldest in the group n was coined by Hongjoong n Seonghwa. (I'm just clearing up the jokes from the guide and what you may see in the fandom).
Yeosang (Yoh sang) is very gorgeous, nicknamed the "Son of Aphrodite" for his stricking visuals. But he's not afraid of also being buff n pretty at the same time. He's an incredible mix of both. Seonghwa as well can slip into the pretty or masculine really well. They can be very androgynous (feminine or masculine depending on the stage, the concept, the mv or the performance. He's a part of the Demon line for a Reason. Take for example Crazy Form MV, Seonghwa was representing the Statue of Liberty for Freedom in Ateez Lore, so he would fit more into an androgynous or feminine look. Now this is not to downplay their genders, they are still very much men, but just men that are comfortable with trying new things n stepping outside of the gender stereotypes).
Seonghwa n Yeosang being called "Gender Envys" because they can look good in feminine clothing, embrace their feminine sides n also be both incredibly masculine on stage or when it calls it. They are secure n comfortable in their gender identity n are not afraid to say so.
Mingi is Nicknamed "Princess" or Pink Princess because of Yunho (but apparently, it comes from a popular manhwa character names princess Minky, and also according to Mingi himself he was raised spoiled from his mom like a princess). Yunho also said he calls him that cause he sees Mingi as someone that needs extra love and to be taken care of (in one of the Ateez vlogs) Yunho is Mingis closest friend and is called Yun-Hoe a lot cause when those two are together they can either be really cute or really sus😭 Mingi may look tough, but he's very sensitive and sweet. So there are times where the members will take extra care of him.
About Jongho's vocals, he's a very strong vocalist. I can't remember the term they use for it musically but i know that a lot of Seniors in Music n Korea as a whole have been blown away by his singing. (note, I just looked up his vocals n a lot of ppl compare his singing to Freddy Mercury, the lead singer of the Band Queen). He's a Power Vocal, someone you can hear across an arena if the mic stops working. Sometimes it may seem like he's screaming, probably because the mic was too close (eg, head mics) n it was his first time doing a note live, but he ALWAYS hits it perfectly after that😌
Now Ateez as a whole are filled with lightskinness n rizz, but they are also really sweet. They are very close to each other, basically a family. So they will be very cuddly, especially Wooyoung. Jongho n Hongjoong aren't very touchy ppl, but sometimes they reach out. The rest of members don't mind and appreciate skinship (cuddling, even kisses n hugs, this is a very common thing in kpop n can be used as fan service, but a lot of groups are just that close, like ateez, stray kids, got7, dreamcatcher n so on)
Next, i mentioned a lot LGBTQ+ n the community. Mind you, I'm just an Ally, so this is being taken from Hongjoong n LGBTQ+ Atinys. Hongjoong is known for showing support to the LGBTQ+ community being someone that advocates for the community with campaigns n stating that "Ateez draws a lot of Inspiration from the community" to a fan during a fancall (I think the fan was a member of the community too) and San even saying to a Trans Person on a fan call, that "it doesn't matter their gender, all that matters is what's in their heart". San, Seonghwa n Woo young also pays a lot of attention to slang n International Atinys online, one time San calling Yeosang "Mother" in an Interview (remember Mother can mean badass, sexy, cool n so on regardless of gender and it's like the highest compliment taken from drag culture).
This group all in all, is very "sus" to outsiders, but just very close to each other n aren't afraid to show it. Like in a good way. I'm letting you know before you get into their personalities because i realised for a lot of Straight Male Reactors that they get into Ateez n are shocked by their closeness. But Ateez n a lot of Kpop groups just come from a different culture, where being close is normal, regardless of gender n the LGBTQ community is still wildly frowned upon. Also since they have known each other for 5+ years, lived together, roomed together (not counting ppl like Mingi n Yunho or Woo n Yeosang that have known each othe for 8+ years) so they are bound to be close.
They are very sweet, very good people that I am proud to be called an Atiny. You also mentioned the Fandom name. I love it, cause it ties into them in reality n the lore. We're their Treasure at the end of the Treasure Album Series, we're their Lightinys, the reason why the Fandom lightstick comes in a Treasure Box, We're their Destiny and I'm good without changing the name.
Hope this helps clear things up a bit before you dive deeper into Kpop as a whole. I have been loving your journey so far. Please don't take this the wrong way, i just wanted you to understand a bit more 💜 I also Highly recommend the guide by AlloftheKennys, even if you can just watch it in your free time, its the best guide for Ateez out there. Thank you again for reacting.
The princess nickname is not bc of Yunho, it comes from a popular manhwa character names princess Minky, and also according to Mingi himself he was raised spoiled from his mom like a princess so that's why xD
And also that they may have called Matz as mom and dad specially bf, but they call them the most older brothers not parents!
@@vanessarl8that’s mostly true. They also call them mom and dad. A lot of their other content shows them saying “Eomma, Appa…” it’s even shown in the longer Ateez guide made by Of All The Kenny’s
@@evilangel21 Ik that's why I said they call them mostly hyungs/older brothers, bc you can count with your hands the times they called them mom and dad.
9:21 Its because they grew up around it plus im sorry you getting pulled way into too much of the fan-made content and allot of it not always true, It’s there to manipulate public view to make you think its real 🤔🫤 thats why if I don’t hear it from their mouth directly Im not going to believe it.
Sorry, but you chose a very strange guide. there is a lot of unnecessary water here, and very little really useful information. a lot of necessary and interesting things are missing in this cringe guide...
I’ll check out the hour guide
hope you react to Nct 127 Neozone album
That’s next thing I’m checking out from them
run bts yet to come in busan
Can u react to nct guide