People saying they dont hear a difference forget they are listening to a mono bluetooth speaker from their phone through youtube with dolby atmos eq enabled.
And also not always about these single details that need to stand out. Its more about how all these little details add up to the final results ( which stands out)
sometimes just enabling the eq on the bx_channel plugins and hitting the pre dyn button can give such a cool vibe that doesn't need further tweaking. love those plugins
I have some plugins already and wonder if you think they are good alternatives for retro 90s techno-trance, (vinyl loudness): bx console Focusrite SC, bx console N, bx Limiter True Peak, bx masterdesk Classic, bx subfilter; All the TDL free plugins; Ozone 10; NI Komplete 14 FX including Transient Master, The Glue compressor, Bitwig stock FX. I also have hardware like TC Elec M3000, Lexicon MPX 1, GSI Specular Tempus, Focusrite voice master and Compounder. Would I be wasting money buying the stuff you recommend in this video?
TThe Kotelnikov plug in is one of those plug ins that I kind of forget about for a while from time to time, but then when I see it or remember it, I'm always blown away by what all it can do. It is really a neat tool and feels like it is doing something really unique that I don't really get out of any other plugin, but I'm sure there is other plugs that will do it, but I'm just not familiar with it.
i work on both Drum & Bass (neuro) and Metal, and it's allowed me to have a more open mind about how i mix, bringing in elements of each style to the other. One of those elements is using the brainworx SSL E and G channel strips because they just work
Nice list quite similar to mine, I would add Softube Harmonics and Tube Tech smc2b or Drawmer 1973 if I want multiband and for electronic music masterbuss it is between Shadowhills class A, Vertigo VSC-3, Softube Bus processor and Unisum compressor for me usually.
Great plugins can solve problems elegantly, be subtle and Wow! in ways that many cheaper can't. Newfangled Audio plugins are a great compliment to Fabfilter. Saturate is a great clipper. I use SSL suite especially 4KB, drumstrip, Plate, Fusion, Flex verb. Relab LX480, Shadow Hills too. Sonnox inflator for mastering gain. I don't use Waves plugins any more. Tx for this video.
Life hack: I keep a Black Friday list on my computer/ phone and I simply add stuff that catches my attention. When Black Friday is here, I don’t buy 95% of the stuff on the list and only the 5% that STILL feel like I truly need or want them.
Metric A/B is really helpfull, it goes on sale every now and then, so check for when you have the pennies and when it's at a price that suits you. It is not an essential but it saves you a shit ton of level matching and routing, in order to get useful comparissons. it's really well worth having but at all 'costs', don't pay full price for it.
I use the elysia alpha master compressor, I have the shadow hill class a, and im sure if i dial it in right its amazing but it was killing my kick transient and there was barely any gain reduction. Slow attack fast release
Just started watching your stuff mate, last night I had a massive perspective shift. I've been banging my head off the keyboard for the last 6 months, but then I watched your section about modulation and holy shit it's so obvious that it's an instrument of its own! Cheers for your insight But come on an SSL Compressor on a kick 😂
Thanks mate, really appreciate it! SSL comp for the win :P To be fair, the glue comp in Ableton is a fantastic version of the SSL bus comp (not the channel strip). So that could also make it on my list.
As far as SSL strips go, while I really like the Brainworx versions of the 4000 E & G and don't see a huge difference with the ones from SSL themselves... Something about their 4000 B strip is just absolutely insane on drums, not sure if it's the more vintage saturation or the compressor behavior (which is closer to the bus comp than the E/G etc channel comps apparently?), or both, it just has that grit that makes the others sound very clean in comparison. Doesn't work on everything obviously but when it does, ooooh boy!
What exactly are the advantages of mastering at 96 kHz insteand of 48 kHz? Does it dramatically enhance audio quality in a meaningful way? The only time i tried 96 kHz was to hear if it would be better than 48 kHz in an amp modeling plugin. The 96 kHz did sound richer an livelier there than 48. Mostly likely because the IR with a higher sample rate reproduces the filter curve of the cabinet with more fidelity. But that filtering stage is so intense that can definitely hear the difference when played in solo. But can you hear the difference in a dense mix? Also in the Pro-L section maybe if soft clipping was used to tame the transients and bring out more of the rest of the sounds, it could probably go louder without too much distortion on the master channel. Metric AB: the only Plugin Alliance plugin that never goes on sale because it's probably the one they sell the most.
Yep, I know. That was probably worded weirdly. What I was trying to say is that I love the right click workflow and that everything felt less fiddly. Honestly, Fabfilter is 95% identical and if I didn’t have the plugin alliance subscription, I probably wouldn’t have switched.
He addresses something very important: "I don't want that analog hiss". The better wording would be: avoid "analog hiss" with plugins, because there is no "analog hiss" with plugins. With plugins, it's digital noise. A sad attempt by developers to sell digital as analog. If you want real analog hiss, put a few more $ into the 500 series from SSL. It's 300-400$ more than plugins but you get quality.
Most of these are great, But Shadow Hills. Nah. completely disagree. It's simply a visual nicety only. Brainworx just aren't good at analog modelling, I might even go as far to say they are worse than Waves. it sounds nothing like the hardware. I used to have it on UAD and its terrible. Flat, lifeless. It was because of that platform that highlighted how poor it was, usually analog modelling products on their platform were pretty well done, and brainworx's shadow hills attempt just stood out like a sore thumb, clearly far below par. its just lights to look at and nothing more. You're not joking when you say subtle, I challenge you do a double blind test on those transformer models even including a bypass signal and I bet you can't identify a single one, OR the bypassed! In fact just analyse the signal path yourself. you'll see those harmonics are a good 60db down , completely masked by every musical signal except the most quiet , audiophile , smooth jazz recordings maybe. As for it's behaviour as a compressor, even a digital one, bleh. Far too slow for EDM, its just a better track bypassed every time. The reason you are using less than a db of compression is you've convinced yourself it's cool to use, but in reality that's literally the max amount that sounds acceptable on this unit, again try a double blind test (properly level matched) where you can't see the lights bouncing and you'll find its a better mix with it bypasses every time. It's kinda fine for averaging slow dynamics like ballads, jazz, classical. But even then you'd just reach for a Fairchild every time if you want that slow/ glue/ flavour.
Strange, I had the same feeling about the "normal" version of the Shadow Hills. Pretty underwhelming. But they somehow did a better job with the Class-A one. But that might be taste :)
You’re probably driving it too hard. Set the reference level to -6db or something closer to your input level and see how it sounds then. I usually can hear the difference on a blind test even with 1db of compression (1-2db is usually how much you would compress on a mix anyways)
@@xSh4dowNinja no that's my argument. you HAVE to drive it to get anything at all out of those transformer models. The harmonics are a good -60db when the input is full scale!!! Its the most polite , digital sounding analog machine ever! (like i say , nothing like the hardware) FYI I've been a professional engineer for 15 years and I'm listening in a good , floating room on OG Adam speakers i've known for that length of time. I know when my eyes are fooling my ears.
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People saying they dont hear a difference forget they are listening to a mono bluetooth speaker from their phone through youtube with dolby atmos eq enabled.
And also not always about these single details that need to stand out. Its more about how all these little details add up to the final results ( which stands out)
I hear differences on my phone without headphones😅🙈
sometimes just enabling the eq on the bx_channel plugins and hitting the pre dyn button can give such a cool vibe that doesn't need further tweaking. love those plugins
Transient control & transient split from Bitwig stock plugins are very handy as well when it comes to shaping sounds and giving space to the mix.
Great overview. As always, great information. I've heard and partially learned that the factory plugins in Ableton aren't that bad.
I have some plugins already and wonder if you think they are good alternatives for retro 90s techno-trance, (vinyl loudness): bx console Focusrite SC, bx console N, bx Limiter True Peak, bx masterdesk Classic, bx subfilter; All the TDL free plugins; Ozone 10; NI Komplete 14 FX including Transient Master, The Glue compressor, Bitwig stock FX. I also have hardware like TC Elec M3000, Lexicon MPX 1, GSI Specular Tempus, Focusrite voice master and Compounder. Would I be wasting money buying the stuff you recommend in this video?
TThe Kotelnikov plug in is one of those plug ins that I kind of forget about for a while from time to time, but then when I see it or remember it, I'm always blown away by what all it can do. It is really a neat tool and feels like it is doing something really unique that I don't really get out of any other plugin, but I'm sure there is other plugs that will do it, but I'm just not familiar with it.
ADPTR Metric A/B is an absolute must have..... but only buy it when it is at an offer price that fits your budget.
I really love the Elevate limiter by Newfangled Audio/Eventide. I’d check that out against the FF. Thanks for the video! All the best!
Great for heavy transient music!!!
i work on both Drum & Bass (neuro) and Metal, and it's allowed me to have a more open mind about how i mix, bringing in elements of each style to the other. One of those elements is using the brainworx SSL E and G channel strips because they just work
Nice list quite similar to mine, I would add Softube Harmonics and Tube Tech smc2b or Drawmer 1973 if I want multiband and for electronic music masterbuss it is between Shadowhills class A, Vertigo VSC-3, Softube Bus processor and Unisum compressor for me usually.
Does the Kirchhoff-EQ show masking frequencies like the proQ3?
Great plugins can solve problems elegantly, be subtle and Wow! in ways that many cheaper can't. Newfangled Audio plugins are a great compliment to Fabfilter. Saturate is a great clipper. I use SSL suite especially 4KB, drumstrip, Plate, Fusion, Flex verb. Relab LX480, Shadow Hills too. Sonnox inflator for mastering gain. I don't use Waves plugins any more. Tx for this video.
Could you show us as experienced mastering engineer how you would work with iZotope Ozone to get a decent techno track mastering?
Great idea! I'll put it on my list immediately :)
Those Adptr Audio plugins on PA, are not cheap. That Metric A|B looks pretty cool and very useful... maybe I will wait to see if they have a sale.
it aplies to all plugins on PA, they make sales on regular basis
@@dophamine7034What applies? I signed up to get notified of any sales. I have a couple of theirs, now, through NI
Life hack: I keep a Black Friday list on my computer/ phone and I simply add stuff that catches my attention. When Black Friday is here, I don’t buy 95% of the stuff on the list and only the 5% that STILL feel like I truly need or want them.
Metric A/B is really helpfull, it goes on sale every now and then, so check for when you have the pennies and when it's at a price that suits you. It is not an essential but it saves you a shit ton of level matching and routing, in order to get useful comparissons. it's really well worth having but at all 'costs', don't pay full price for it.
I use the elysia alpha master compressor, I have the shadow hill class a, and im sure if i dial it in right its amazing but it was killing my kick transient and there was barely any gain reduction. Slow attack fast release
Could the super fast release on the compressor be causing the distortion you’re hearing?
Just started watching your stuff mate, last night I had a massive perspective shift. I've been banging my head off the keyboard for the last 6 months, but then I watched your section about modulation and holy shit it's so obvious that it's an instrument of its own! Cheers for your insight
But come on an SSL Compressor on a kick 😂
Thanks mate, really appreciate it! SSL comp for the win :P To be fair, the glue comp in Ableton is a fantastic version of the SSL bus comp (not the channel strip). So that could also make it on my list.
Great tutorial you have a lot of talent. Keep it up Homie.
Thanks so much, I really appreciate it!
Haven’t you tried any of the Sonible plug-ins?
As far as SSL strips go, while I really like the Brainworx versions of the 4000 E & G and don't see a huge difference with the ones from SSL themselves... Something about their 4000 B strip is just absolutely insane on drums, not sure if it's the more vintage saturation or the compressor behavior (which is closer to the bus comp than the E/G etc channel comps apparently?), or both, it just has that grit that makes the others sound very clean in comparison. Doesn't work on everything obviously but when it does, ooooh boy!
Did you tried the smart limiter plugin instead of Pro L2 ?
What exactly are the advantages of mastering at 96 kHz insteand of 48 kHz? Does it dramatically enhance audio quality in a meaningful way?
The only time i tried 96 kHz was to hear if it would be better than 48 kHz in an amp modeling plugin. The 96 kHz did sound richer an livelier there than 48. Mostly likely because the IR with a higher sample rate reproduces the filter curve of the cabinet with more fidelity. But that filtering stage is so intense that can definitely hear the difference when played in solo. But can you hear the difference in a dense mix?
Also in the Pro-L section maybe if soft clipping was used to tame the transients and bring out more of the rest of the sounds, it could probably go louder without too much distortion on the master channel.
Metric AB: the only Plugin Alliance plugin that never goes on sale because it's probably the one they sell the most.
MASSIVELYYYYY yeahhhh of course
I bought the Kirchhoff EQ but its dont work well in FL Studio- just be warnt- cool Video
BTW: the track sounds very nice!
Can you make a video showing how to pitch correct vocals
thanks for sharing very useful❤
Fab Filter plugins are almost old news now 😅. Their Pro R and Saturn plugs are still dope tho.
bro i subscribed because your music is 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥
FabFilter L2 is bookmarked as 'Fair Filter L2' on the video.
Thanks for the video
I really want to buy a shadowhills mastering compressor hardware but damn its expensive
The PA SSL plugin on mac m1is unusable because of the GUI bug. Wish they would fix that.
Breaking news
You can unmask in fab filter pro Q 3 though
Just saying
Yep, I know. That was probably worded weirdly. What I was trying to say is that I love the right click workflow and that everything felt less fiddly. Honestly, Fabfilter is 95% identical and if I didn’t have the plugin alliance subscription, I probably wouldn’t have switched.
Did they give u discount for that?
Nope, all purchased with my heard earned money from tweaking kick drums all day, haha. Don’t worry, I’m transparent with that stuff.
They are good plugins, plugin alliance stuff@@pickyourselfofficial
tube tech eq vs pultec eq?
Flux Bittersweet Pro Transient Designer beats the crap out of SPL's TD.
He addresses something very important: "I don't want that analog hiss". The better wording would be: avoid "analog hiss" with plugins, because there is no "analog hiss" with plugins. With plugins, it's digital noise. A sad attempt by developers to sell digital as analog. If you want real analog hiss, put a few more $ into the 500 series from SSL. It's 300-400$ more than plugins but you get quality.
This is not favorite plugins this is Plugin -Allianse Promo 😂😂😂😂
Mastering for clients in Ableton…. Hmm hmm..
Haha, no no no, I master in Wavelab Pro and mix I. Cubase. Gonna release a video about the multiple DAWs and the why behind it in the next weeks.
Most of these are great, But Shadow Hills. Nah. completely disagree. It's simply a visual nicety only.
Brainworx just aren't good at analog modelling, I might even go as far to say they are worse than Waves. it sounds nothing like the hardware. I used to have it on UAD and its terrible. Flat, lifeless. It was because of that platform that highlighted how poor it was, usually analog modelling products on their platform were pretty well done, and brainworx's shadow hills attempt just stood out like a sore thumb, clearly far below par. its just lights to look at and nothing more.
You're not joking when you say subtle, I challenge you do a double blind test on those transformer models even including a bypass signal and I bet you can't identify a single one, OR the bypassed!
In fact just analyse the signal path yourself. you'll see those harmonics are a good 60db down , completely masked by every musical signal except the most quiet , audiophile , smooth jazz recordings maybe.
As for it's behaviour as a compressor, even a digital one, bleh. Far too slow for EDM, its just a better track bypassed every time. The reason you are using less than a db of compression is you've convinced yourself it's cool to use, but in reality that's literally the max amount that sounds acceptable on this unit, again try a double blind test (properly level matched) where you can't see the lights bouncing and you'll find its a better mix with it bypasses every time.
It's kinda fine for averaging slow dynamics like ballads, jazz, classical. But even then you'd just reach for a Fairchild every time if you want that slow/ glue/ flavour.
Strange, I had the same feeling about the "normal" version of the Shadow Hills. Pretty underwhelming. But they somehow did a better job with the Class-A one. But that might be taste :)
You’re probably driving it too hard. Set the reference level to -6db or something closer to your input level and see how it sounds then. I usually can hear the difference on a blind test even with 1db of compression (1-2db is usually how much you would compress on a mix anyways)
@@xSh4dowNinja no that's my argument. you HAVE to drive it to get anything at all out of those transformer models. The harmonics are a good -60db when the input is full scale!!!
Its the most polite , digital sounding analog machine ever! (like i say , nothing like the hardware)
FYI I've been a professional engineer for 15 years and I'm listening in a good , floating room on OG Adam speakers i've known for that length of time.
I know when my eyes are fooling my ears.
Too bright
The quality is extremely low. Video quality I mean the resolution.
That must be an internet issue, looks fine on my end 🤔
@@pickyourselfofficial might be a TH-cam problem I have it on all the video since I watched yours... I blame Joe Biden.😂😂😂
Ok this end.
Why stop at Biden when you have the best part of a continent to chose from, or are you just chosing the potentially incontinent? 😜
Go to settings quality and turn it up.
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