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- The Technocyte is by far the most dangerous force present in the system, with no possibility of allegiance or armistice. Yet there are many questions regarding its nature. Is it truly a mindless swarm? Or is there deliberate movement behind its chaotic actions? Where did it come from? Was it an ancient Orokin bio-weapon, a building material, or even a harmless decoration utilized in tower ships? And is the Technocyte of yore the same strain that we encounter today? Much like the Technocyte itself, the swarm of unanswered questions is overwhelming.
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Your prediction that the Warframes are Infected flesh proved to be correct.
Your statement that it was correct is also correct.
@@shocktnc Your statement is also correct.
We're always correct
@@cephalon5913 we've always been correct
Is that why Tenno are seen as less than human by some?
Lol so that's explains why we use nano spores to make most things :)
Yup, especially the bulk blueprints for gear items XD
imagine being a grineer soldier or crewman running through a corridor being chased by various infested, my god that would be terrifying
That would be f**king terrifying.(O.O)
Still better then an encounter with a Tenno lol
Running from the infested, turns a corner and theres a Excalibur shrugging.
Kace Xiz Just pray to the Corpus Econony/Grineer Queen that it’s an invasion, not a crossfire
SGP id just start throwing grenade after grenade, running as fast as I could.
I've never had so much appreciation for the monsters until now. I can see from the beginning of your video how the exploding one was actually squirming in pain and those chargers are seemingly insane and shaking. This theory is fucking awesome.
So, from Rhino Prime's lore snippet, a Tenno is made from a Warframe (formed of Technocyte) and an Operator (a child exposed to void energy.) If the Orokin used Technocyte in this manner, that would suggest that Technocyte was primarily a tool of industry. The Orokin probably used it to build ships and weaponry, then it went dormant until "Once Awake." Due to mishandling by crazed Grineer scientists, it's now gone out of control and is developing on its own.
The "operator" is just another term. Tenno is what it is, The human. the warframe is just the frame. the 2 concepts "warframe " and "operator" dont make you tenno. because even humans can use frames though there are more severe casualties for that, hence why it is special the way tenno can manipulate their frames so easily due to void influence. All the tenno is, is the child affected by the void and given their abilities, the frame is just a medium through which they "operate" from safety as well as a means to house their void energy in such a way that they can transmit such energy by will, without actually being there physically themselves. the bit about grineer scientists, not completely accurate in the way we've been told, because either way the infestation is a bit similar to necromorphs from deadspace, they spread and grow in number regardless of reason and they are speculated to not be mindless beings but function from some form of intention, whatever their true intention may be. the grineer interferance really seemed to just have simply sped it up. but yes, Operator is just another term that the tenno is referred to usually by ordis specifically. after the second dream lotus no longer addresses us as operator either in the way she once did, now she just says "tenno", she isnt refering to our frames at all, just us as the child that she knows she is speaking directly to. The frame: Just a surrogate body.
Hey remember what you said on the Technocite building thing?
Yeah, its real
@@CrystallizedBlackSkull yup. The Unum in Plains of Eidolon and even the "Heart" of the Orb Vallis along with possibly all or a majority of Orokin architecture is made from organometallic substances. The infestation is considered to be the rogue or sapient part of this material.
Modern times I have something to add, a lore entry describes a crew of grineer during the collapse turning on the orokin they were made to protect, Comondeering the vessel after it had been given control. The orokin were indeed fleeing the infestation.
I believe that while the technocyte was initially created for general purpose building, say terraforming venus from acid oceans and heat to cool mountains. It was self evolving and continually consuming itself, eventually maybe an accidental task given to it or an error but somehow maybe it was given the command to spread, consume, grow. And that's when it stopped listening to orders, or it self evolved enough through random chance or as apart of a program to help itself construct something that it gained its intelligence and begun devowering everything in its wake. Infesting the living orokin towers and anyone within.
@@CrystallizedBlackSkull Kind of, anyway.
They didn't exactly use the Technocyte, but they did genetically design their buildings and whatnot.
I just noticed that the charger is an infested grineer.
lol me too
kappa guy Okey.
Jhonna Mae Elman took me about 100-200 hours to notice
I notice right away for some reason. I think I thought the dissolving body animation was cool, and I saw the grineer head.
And runners and leapers are Corpus.
Wasn't it explained somewhere that Warframes were created from Infested Tissue/Materials/Metals? Hence the infested bosses implying ''We are your flesh''
NumbZkull Yes, the queen refers to the WARFRAME as an infested puppet. It's always been hinted that Warframes are made of infested flesh. Jordas also explains as you kill the golem that it is confused as to why another infested (the WARFRAME) attacks it.
Also the game Dark Sector uses the same origin for the creation of Warframes as the protagonist Hayden Tenno gets infected with the technocyte virus and turns into a proto excalibur. I was somewhat surprised to see that DE still used that plot point for Warframe despite claiming that Dark Sector has little connection to Warframe.
It's now a fact--the warframes, those created back in the Orokin era instead of the non-primes you're using at least, are people infected with the technocyte virus & forcibly made into mindless, near docile weapons. The non-primes in the current era are simply technological, manufactured puppet copies.
"We are your flesh" i believe is referring to what the war frames are made of
Nicely done! how about a..
What We Know- Clem XD
AGREE!!
Mal Nexus the answer is always CLEM
+rizqi ariffi No every answer to clem only has 2
Grataka... and Grataka
+Mal Nexus Clem is clem!
+The Loyal Tenno Loki *grakata
The orokin created the technocyte originally as a means to rapidly terraform planets and to re-establish plant life within the origin system specifically earth, it was later weaponized to attempt to beat the sentients but could not be controlled.
Its also worth mentioning that the word "origin system" is used often, this would suggest that while the orokin are dead in sol they may have colonized either tau ceti, alpha centauri, epsilon eridani or the sirius cluster, they definitely had the technology to do so as shown with the zariman ten zero's journey to tau ceti, so its not unlikely that they've colonized nearby star systems within our stellar neighborhood.
Cool! Mind if I add some more info?
First of all, the Lotus states "Deep within this millennia old Orokin-turned Infested ship lurks a creature [Lephantis] created to fight in the Old War.", which obviously means the infestation was created by the orokin to fight the sentients.
Secondly, the hive-mind is very active and intellegent. It has a clear purpose and reacts instantly. Here are some quotes from the Lotus.
"The infestation has spread to this location faster than anyone predicted. Everyone is gone, except our operative. It is almost as if the Infestation has deliberately captured our operative. This sort of behaviour is highly unusual." - Infested Rescue Mission Dialogue
Alas, RNG is not on my side (as usual) and I may have missed some dialogue even after repeating the mission several times. (There are multiple versions of mission dialogue, selected by RNG)
Furthermore, both Warframes and Specters can be controlled by the Infestation (as seen in the Mutalist Alad V boss fight), which supports the theory that the Infested is Tenno "flesh", and since Warframes can be infested by even the original strain, as evidenced by the Lotus' reaction upon seeing Infested Chroma: "Chroma?! I haven't seen one since... no it couldn't be."
Let me know if I missed anything.
:D
+Eric Fung It is even possible that the Infested started out as a single Tenno, but now I've reached the point of purely speculation.
+Eric Fung Bro... Just, bro... Mad respect.
*slow claps*
+Mal Nexus I don't understand your argument. Can you please elaborate?
Btw, remember that Grineer bio-weapon research conducted by Doctor Tengus (also responsible for the creation of G3) is probably one of the most significant factors to the rise of the Infestation after the Orokin Empire.
As usual, the lore is really unclear, and from what I can gather from the dialogue, Doctor Tengus, for reasons unknown, released the Infested specimens.
Here is some relevant dialogue from the quest Once Awake. (not all dialogue)
Unknown Lancer: The Tenno! Keep them away from the specimens!
Unknown Heavy Gunner: Destroy them! Doctor Tengus demands absolute secrecy!
Unknown Lancer: Who released the specimens? Stop the Infested, forget the Tenno!
Unknown Heavy Gunner: They're out! What's going on? Who let them out? Was it Tengus?
Unknown Lancer: (darkly) Tengus did this. I KNOW he did.
Audio recordings of above quotes are available in the Wiki.
+Eric Fung One reason I didn't straight up claim the Orokin used the technocyte as a weapon is because there are some who interpret that line to mean that Lephantis was the weapon, and not the infestation itself, indicating that Lephantis was something else before it was assimilated. I personally believe that Lotus is referring to the technocyte, but it's still a valid interpretation.
so basically the flood?
But not a parisite
Its heavily inspired by the flood
a downgraded version basically
From halo
Basically yes, but in a version where we know much less about it and in a version that can or could also be used gor other Purposes
This is a hundred times better than DKdiameters videos, keep it up!
Im not, its just my opinion.
+Danislav zagi
I like these videos a lot better too, they're easier to listen to and very informative.
You dont even know what my face looks like, and whats with the hostility?
You like DK, and I dont like him.
But I guess I was a bit rude with my first comment...
There's no need to insult each other.
+Mal Nexus For fuck's sake, you're acting like he just shanked your dog. Calm the fuck down.
Opinions, we all have them.
Someone expresses their opinion normally, someone does it rudely, and someone does not do it at all.
It wasnt in my interest to insult DK or anyone else.
I didnt say that DKs vids are bad, I just said that Stallords vids are better, thats hardly an insult.
And why are you so serious about this?
What I said is hardly a fact, its an opinion, just like yours.
(Pls, for the love of the Void, let there be peace, or the fans of DK and Stallord may turn on each other.)
Love seeing the lore theorizing that happened months before Second Dream. It's great to see that the game was setting us up for things, not just enacting retcon
As of now, we know that Warframes are made using Infested flesh. This would explain the Infested room on the Orbiter, where the Helminth entity resides. The Tenno use Helminth's tissue to create new Warframes.
This only makes more questions when you look at the two terms of Deimos, Vome and Fass.
What about a What we know: Sentients ?
And then it turns out that the warframe WERE made of infested flesh
All we need now is a giant plant saying : I am monument to all your sins
Is this Warframe or Halo because to me the infestation in warframe looks like the flood from Halo just without the gravemind.
Forgotten Demon that's a coincidence, just like all zombies look similar. Halo and warframe are not linked.
its not a coincidence, its actually what inspired the infestation and DE makes this known that they are very aware of it. ordis even quotes it "we must not be overcome by a floo--"
Dark star Kayn Main "I mean...the Infested...yes the Infested"
Ben Talbot Once Awake plays out very similarly to 343 Guilty Spark.
Dark Sector's relevance remains... shaky. But whether it takes place in the same universe or not I maintain that it and Warframe are so separated by years upon years that there's no meaningful connections to be had. But time will tell.
I agree with pretty much all the points in the video. A curious question rises in regards to the seeming ability of the Infestation to replicate particular "strains" - the Ancients in particular. What might become of Mutalist Alad should such a thing be true? Disturbing implications there are...
+Morec0 True, when I mentioned Dark Sector and it's impact, that was what I meant. Not that it takes place in the same universe and thus follows the same rules, but rather that it draws heavily from those same rules for its own version of the technocyte.
StallordD Aye, I get that. Sorry, it's kinda a bad habit at this point to try and remind folks Dark Sector's not exactly lore for WF - seems to often to me people forget that.
Obviously darkSector is the origin of Technocyte. It was created by the US government. darkSector is cannon.
Dark Sector is NOT canon. Devs have since decided on/confirmed this. They are using Dark Sector purely as spiritual inspiration, not canonical history.
+StallordD Well, I must be outdated then, I stuck where they said that it was, it even says so on darkSectors wiki
Bee Hive Team
You are, they've said it flat out via forum posts and dev streams at this point.
Wikis are user edited, and the lore sections for Warframe are highly conjecture. Don't take what they say as gospel, they have the same amount of clout as any other person making lore theories.
+StallordD Well, thats what I get for trusting the wiki, would be nice if they incorporated Hayden Tenno as an event, a quest or boss or something. Would be awesome.
..also what if alad v was like...a voice pipe? somethign used so the technocyte could comunicate with others on a more personal level to persuade them?
for some reason, the evangelion mechs remind me of infested xD
Sentient entity made of flesh controlled by kids do I have something more to say
and now we know, that indeed the "Warframes are infested husks" theory is correct!
hoo-raaay...
*cries*
What We Know - Syndicate
Dude I fucking love these love videos! Warframe has some rich lore and it's exciting to explore!
Oh hey look! The flood!
They sound like the flood, from Halo.
everything from warframe sounds like halo...and thats nice
+Numinex TV not really
+BaneKiller well, warframe IS spelled H A L O... XD
+Numinex TV. I don't think Spartan is spelled W A R F R A M E.
DE did confirm that it was inspired by the flood
That "We are your flesh." mite be one of the creepiest line in Warframe.
Infested give me flood vibes
After the Sacrifice, trying to figure lore out. HNNNNNGGHHH
We know a lot more now... I'd love to see you dive into an updated vid about all these old topics that you made years ago
Damn your theory on the infestation being created by the Orokin was spot on.
You're right, the Warframe are made using Technocyte
Theory: the technocyte virus is the neural sentry thats glitched out and gone rampant, i feel like this would fill in some holes about both things
The orokin were clearly the biggest threat to the system. Not only were they trying to take over and extremely militant and murderous but they have literally fucked up so many times resulting in so much death and destruction. They needed to go extinct before they did any more damage on accident. Warframe needs a live action series when they finish the storyline.
He was a prophet...
Don't you mean the Flood Infestation? ;)
The Flood, vs the Infestation.
Infestation Will won with ease.
Infestation is a bio-weapon that will consume everything , and flood is just a parasite. So yeah,
Infestation Will infect flood
@@mislavgrosinic2999 u dumb
They assimilate each other and grow even stronger. Now, nobody wins :V
Can you do one on the Tenno themselves?
Well the use of cascade bombs in the void towers is pretty much out now with the Plains reveal because that would have killed what was inside the walls and though maybe not impossible to regrow it I would assume it is a difficult process and such an event would leave the orokin planetary settlements open to sentient attack and while I do think the orokin were sh!t heads I don't think they were that stupid
I demand DE make a deadspace style mission where we have to move around a tileset in almost darkness.
now I want to see an infested vs infested fight, flood vs technocyte.
Now we know more😁
The flood was purged once, so why can’t this?
What we know- Orokin or Orokin Influence on the current state of the system.
Also, adding on the influence of Dark Sector. Warframe is somewhat a spiritual successor, drawing influence from, and referencing Dark Sector often.. HOWEVER DE has specifically stated that Dark Sector is not Canon to the existing Warframe universe.
+Samuel King True, when I mentioned Dark Sector and it's impact, that was what I meant. Not that it takes place in the same universe and thus follows the same rules, but rather that it draws heavily from those same rules for its own version of the technocyte.
StallordD Ahh yes, my mistake, the infested is probably the faction we know the least about, when you think about it, though it is the least expanded in quests. Hell, it could be argued that we know more about the Sentient, through speculation.
I Just wanted to say this. The infested seem to only go to corpus ships in my opinion(First) And they come in those orange things u see around the ship when ur fighting the infested (The orange bee swarm lookin things) And from there they find a dark part of the ship and infest that area (Like she sais with the lephantis It absorbs matter over time) Like we see with the growths on the ship. from there seeing as most corpus are usually inside a holding thing or hung up like they are around the maps, the infested Targets those seeing as there just bodies and idlely sitting there. Same with them moas. they sit in cases and are not touched only for the infested to get ahold of them. then from there they can physically attack the corpus or in other words "Defend the growth on the ship" Until it gets so big that they just overrun the corpus and consume all of the bodies and what not. Then from there The corpus infested ships Not only become a vessel to create more infested it also creates more orange spores to find other ships. From there seeing as the infested cant Infect the Grineer ships via spores (Seeing as the grineer would just kill it and destroy it first glance) they use the physical bodies of the corpus to attack and overwhelm the grineer. Also for where the ancients come from The infested realises its bodies can die so they create ancients that heal or in other words Help the infested in fighting (Seeing as thats what it gears itself towards) It uses matter and energy from matter like the lephantis. However in my opinion Why other corpus ships dont help the one that is getting infected is because They themselves do not want to Have anything to do with the infected so they stay away in fear of becoming infested. Thats why some of the ships u see (Or like the area u get extracted from is outside in space with debris around because the corpus ships were taking pot shots and trying to destroy it. But from that more spores fly over and infect that ship and so on.
It is absolutely fair to assume that the Warframe biosuits themselves are an application of the Technocyte virus. After all, that is what gave Hayden Tenno his abilities in Dark Sector.
The infested seems to connect with the warframes because it is made WITH infested materials, like nano spores. Jordas also says "it sees you are of like-flesh" in the Jordas Verdict.
SIVA anyone? lol
Betraying The Game Too many years late? lol
One thing I think you don't see- the derelict, controlled by infestation more than other things, and you can see the infestation turning into plants. That may be the key
Infested, Flood, Necromorph, Tyranid, Zerg, Borg, Lambent - Warframe hasn't copied anyone, it's just a necessary scifi element; The Assimilator.
Remember when you entered the infected room as nidus? Ordis mentions that the infestation in the room was necessary to maintain the warframe.
When you said "quite capable" at 1:34 my phone thought you were saying "ok google"
Your lore videos are very insightful. Thank you for sharing, and I’d also like to add that your speculations are vastly more reasonable than others I’ve seen on TH-cam.
Oh boy after the sacrifice most of these are off but also very accurate
Helminth
Nidus is infested warframe right? Maybe he can control the power of the infested to his will.
Are we sure Warframe does NOT have aliens currently present in its universe?
-clap- This is not sarcastic. I am thoroughly impressed with this. Now take this one: (in my best Jordas/Golem voice) it's says your of like fleshWHY DO YOU DEFILE US?!
hey how long has it been sence the events of dark sector and warframe 🙄 as teres a codex entry on the proto glave tat states the wep. dates back to forgotton times witch it refers too hyden tenno from dark sector useing the glave and warframe takes place WAAAY after dark sector but tere both linked but idk the timeframe 😮 how dids the tennocyte virus live all the time between the events of dark sector and current warframe🙄????? my bad i mighta butchered some words
This Technocyte Warframe Theory Will Also Be Supported By The Line Of The Worm(The Sister of The Grineer Queen) That Said "We Want The Orphan Child, Not It's INFESTED Puppet(Lines Might Not Be Correct)".
Basically the flood?
Even worster my friend
☹️😓😨🤢😰😥😢😟😞😔
(Depresion intefises)
Would be curious to see an update video on this. Especially once the 1999 update goes through or maybe after the story of The Man In The Wall is finished.
Nidus the new warframe is just made of infested and when you enter the infested room SPOILER ALERT ordis says "I would cleanse this room but it be if it's you and your warframes" BOOM warframes are made of tennocyte confirmed.
+StallordD It would be very cool if you have Nidus ( and helminth ) with you and you go into an infestation and all the infest kneel.
Jordas golem pretty much confirms the tenno have technocyte in them.
''tenno it senses you are like flesh''
''i see it now! you are the same! they fear themselves''
Damn it would suck to be conscious, just slightly, in the back of your infested head. All you can do is watch what your body does helplessly.
fuck that.
Although I don't see the infected orokin being conscious for that long.
Technocyte was created off of base DNA, which is how it can bond to Tenno, Orokin, Corpus, and Grineer, and that could be the reason why Lephantis says "We are your flesh" due to the fact that the dna is similar.
Now Second Dream has revealed many answers to questions about Tenno and Infestation. Now we know, that Infestation is Orokin weapon, that backfired, as stated the Operator.
I doubt I'm the first to cross this threshold, but they kinda seem like warframe's version of the flood from halo. Though I am definitely not saying halo was the first to make a hivemind virus.
it's plastids. those little nanomachine-like materials are contained as to not spiral out of control in warframes and carry their own free will in the infested. The warframes are made up of multiple materials to contain the plastids from spiraling out of control and theyre the reason why warframes die when there's no air in survival missions. the plastids, just as normal nanomachines grow at rapid rates to repair harm done to the body but can be silenced at certain points but not fully die, examples being when warframes are still able to have 5 health at least in low oxygen situations.
The technocytes were organic nanomachines originally designed to combat the sentients unprecedented ability for adaptation with its own innately unpredictable ever evolving nature, however the technocytes were designed with limitations like everything else with orokin genetic design which prevented the technocytes from becoming a more serious threat than the sentients, it is also very likely that the original technocytes acted very similarly to somatic links allowing the first zariman tenno to control them but likely had much lower viability for its lack of transference potential as compared to a humanoid form that reflects the tenno's form, this surged the reassigned role of technocyte from its original flood-like role to one more akin to building blocks with which the warframes founding designs were born, its also quite possible that the neural sentries were designed to use technocyte to indoctrinate intruders and craft orikin ornamental adornments with the very same technocyte, and if this is true then the possibility that hunhow might be able to take control of the infested as well as deactivated warframes through an assimilated neural sentry is quite likely and may happen sooner than we think
What i like more about your lore vids is that you dont dwell on things to much like DK. Dont get me wrong DK's vids are fine, their great but i find that he reads something then retells it, i find it boring and makes his videos too long, but i like them their pretty cool but its just that starlords are better in my oppinion.
Have thousands of hours on this game and just realized the Infested were actually Infected Grineer and Corpus.
second dream spoilers.
I think that the tenno have nothing of infested in them, but i do believe that the flesh inside the warframe is of infested origin, that would also explain why we can translate there screams: the warframe flesh can "hear" the thoughts of the hive mind, but your grip on the frame is stronger than that of the hive to we stay in control, but the frame still has a connection, and we can listen into it.
of course, much of this is speculation, please let me hear you theories.
In the new update sands of inaros, there is a patch of infested in the back of the ship...oh snap I'm honestly nervous and excited at the same time! I can't wait to figure out what they have in store for that!
Cascade bombs? use cascade nukes!
So Warframe has almost the same kind of "void" system as Warhammer 40k and also another version of Halo rings from Halo to fight off the flood/infestation?
Warframes are helmyth if I spelled that right how the warframes were created is explained in the sacrifice quest and is a huge plot point so play that quest to find out I’m not gonna spoil it for you
Another thing- if you look at the proto suit of Excalibur, which is from dark sector , you can see a infested like material, and as ds also has tenon as hero this leads to a question- do dark sector lore is what was before the warframe one?
So the Technocyte Infestation is the Warframe version of The Flood
Maybe it's just from updates later, but they have confirmed that infested are/were used to make warframes.
Didn't the technocyte originate from earth? As humans are orokin, years and years after earth and evolution?
They must be made of infested tissue, how does a warframe repair itself if not flesh, like in the second dream quest, the empty warframe literally ripped war out of it, a wound like that would be fatal
there is more info on this with the sacrifice quest where a dex was forcefully injected with it and became a warframe.
I'm gonna paraphrase/state the way I see it: the infection is warframe's version of the flood and nidus is it's gravemind, being how the infection in the orbiter refers to him as their master
ya..the warframe..are a diffrent strain then the infected we fight..hance why..the warframe dosint ..get corrupted and turn on the user
Pretty much same as flood from halo they both pretty much same just different shapes
It spreads through directional reigon of the grineer but how did Vay hek get control of it? i know he made an infected weaponhe is waiting to realease but how?
Alad V + ‘Plant-like’ infestation =
SALAD V.... ha. ha.
They're basically The Necromorphs meet the Flood xD
So this thing is essentially the Flood except in Warframe... -.-'
Why in some infested survival missions the Lotus says that deadly spores are being put all over the ship when the warframes we use are made of infested flesh?
Your voice is really calming. Consider yourself subbed to.
plot twist: the technocyte is controlled by Hayden Tenno, after he seen that the technocyte can't be eradicated at least he tries to control it.. (at least would had been cool if it was like this)
Like listening to a creepypasta
the infested WAS orikin made my charecter said so the infested were supposed to weapon but it got out of control
I haven't played Warframe in months.
*gulp*
Could you update some of your lore videos?
With some of what we have learned may change the lore