This also affects more than just "ebikers". Every single person who uses a pev is now going to have issues. With all these new laws wich will get adopted by most states, 99% of the e-scooters and the e-unicycles will be illegal. The more they restrict where you can use said equipment, the more cumbersome it will be. Then people will just go back to using petro vehicles. What most dont talk about or dont realize is that this newer generation predominantly uses e-vehicles.most dont even have a desire to get a license or want to even own a car. Between Uber/Lyft and e-vehicles, they have access to most places they want to go. This cuts into the pockets of the big car makers and they are not happy about it. The best way to force people back into the petro market is to restrict their freedoms on e-vehicles. Since they cant outright attack it, they do it under the cloak of "safety awareness". Someone please explain to me how a 16yr old on an ebike doing 30mph is more dangerous than a 16yr old driving a 3000lbs metal brick at 30mph? None of this is about safety. Its all about annoyance and money.
That’s what I said on yesterday’s video. It’s not about the safety, they don’t give a rats rear end about us. It’s more money for the courts. They have to keep court in session every week! Pay those Judges/Clerks/Bailiffs/Janitors/District Attorneys/Court appointed attorneys salaries! Thank god I can fund and pay for such an amazing place and outstanding humans that always want only the best for me and my life! Wow! (:
I live in a small mountain community in San Bernardino. There are no protected bike lanes, no shoulders, and STEEP hills. Aka, no bicycle infrastructure in sight. I purpose built my ebike to keep up with traffic no matter the gradient... FOR SAFETY. Both for the safety of the drivers and myself. I have a motorcycle license and being a grown man, if a cop wants to pull me over, so be it. I'm not 13 and driving like an idiot.
Sounds like you're not playing the game right, who taught you to obey unjust rules of tyrants? You can ignore the government and play their game or get played it's your choice
I will never do that, the whole point of ebikes is that they aren't a hassle to use everytime you wanna go riding, having to deal with insurance and registration will kill e mobility if this ends up happening.
@@crazrides3041you're wrong. Moped license is permanent and like 34$ sent to Sacramento. Insurance is good if something happens to your ebike. It will make you more whole than any warranty, especially if you have expensive custom upgrades
It's still a federal regulation, a "low-speed electric bicycle" is limited to 20 MPH under pedal or throttle assist. This covers class 1 and 2. A class 3 e-bike is pedal assist only, there is no "class 3 w/ throttle" e-bike by definition. If there's a throttle and that works above 20 MPH, it's no longer class 2. What to call a bike like that is a different matter. My take is, with the current federal regs., manufacturers need to abide by those rules in advertising their product regardless of which state. They should not be able to advertise an e-bike w/ throttle as class 3 and if it can be pedaled or throttled above 20 MPH, it can't be advertised as class 2, basic truth in advertising. Maybe they need to simplify the rules and have, for example, a revised class 1 up to 15 (like Europe) or 20 MPH with pedal or throttle. Then a revised class 2 up to 28 MPH with pedal or throttle. Or make the throttle assist cut out at 20 MPH in any class if there's a valid reason for that. At a minimum, there needs to be some clarification of the existing definitions as they are confusing to consumers and offer too many "interpretations" for mfgs. Where I live in CA, almost all the dedicated multi-use trails have a 15 MPH speed limit for bikes of any sort. For bike lanes along roads, there's no separate bike speed limit. I have seen radar speed signs and traps on bike trails in the area and have seen bike riders pulled over by rangers for speed violations. Some of the open space areas around here prohibit all manner of e-bikes. I'm looking into getting an e-bike, ideally I wanted class 1, but may end up with class 3 (pedal assist only) to get the other features I want. I'm thinking ahead to avoid getting a bike that may some day be prohibited from bike paths, for example. That's why I'm torn between class 1 and 3. I think class 1 would be the more "immune" to being restricted than class 3.
I called my local pd and they said if I'm doing 20 it's not even legal to stop me to check my bikes specs. So just do 20 when going around town. I live in Sacramento and we have a state park that runs through the town and it's got hundreds of miles of dirt trails.
@@MrDucksBill Yes, I wouldn't really want to ride faster than 20 in any event. I'm in the SF Bay Area. At least 2 of the county park districts allow e-bikes on trails that allow regular bikes. We also have Open Space Districts and the one around me bans e-bikes on almost all their trails. Some cities, like Palo Alto, have banned e-bikes on unpaved trails in the city. Looks like CA state parks have varied e-bike rules, search for "E-Bikes in CA State Parks". Most are Class-1 only, although there are some -2 and -3 allowed. Not sure if the state parks have bike speed limits on trails or not. This is one factor pushing me towards a Class-1 e-bike, if only I could find one meeting my needs. I found one, but it uses a Shimano motor, which I've heard has poor serviceability compared to Bosch. All the Bosch motor bikes I've found that are interesting seem to be Class-3.
The law eventually will need to modify class 3 to explicitly allow a throttle up to 15 or 20 mph, as many elderly will need a full 750W motor to run their heavy trikes, and the elderly will have difficulty pedaling up from a complete stop on those heavier e-bikes. This is a matter of safety. If a heavier e-bikes are always hesitating in an intersection, that will make using the e-bike vastly more dangerous. A low-speed throttle is the solution to that.
I'm in California and yes I'm going to keep riding my class 3 Ebike. The police out here in my area don't care unless you start doing wheelies and other attention seeking stuff, wouldn't be surprised If they don't even know about the new law.
I’m in California & I will not follow these bogus laws. 100% percent I’m gonna still going keep riding my Eride Pro SS to work and back. I don’t swerve through or pop wheelies in traffic. Cops in my area (Oxnard) don’t ever bother me.
Watch John Hicks race around LA California on his Suron & you will see the disconnect between the laws & enforcement. somehow he manages to have fun, post videos & no legal consequences, yet, lol. Interesting to see what happens
The problem with most laws its how they are enforced or if they're enforced. Im in Texas and they allow Gold Carts on the road even though by law its illegal but as long as they have working lights, horn, and a flag or something the back, nobody cares. People ride them to go to the store or on the weekends.
How about switch off one good battery and have another tiny battery with just enough juice to barely spin the wheel and light the display?. When cops come just switch to the tiny dead battery that has no way of putting enough current out to get over 500 watts. Lol
before i got an e-bike i was riding a 50cc cruiser bike that could go 35 and i never once got pulled over I even passed by cops many times on it and never had an issue and gas bikes were regulated well before e-bikes here in cali I did not have it registered I don't even have a license. Nobody gonna stop you unless your being stupid and putting yourself or others in danger. just don't be stupid and you will be fine no cop gonna waste time just to check if your bike is within regulation. These are what I call unenforceable laws that end up only being applied to those who are stupid and deserve it.
You bring up an excellent point-if we purchased these bikes when they were legal, it doesn’t make sense for them to suddenly declare our purchases illegal. These bikes are expensive, and most of them come with throttles, whether it’s a thumb throttle or a twist throttle. It’s unreasonable to tell someone who spent thousands of dollars on a bike just a few weeks ago that it’s now illegal to own. I believe that anyone who bought their bike before 2025 should be fine, as long as they can provide proof of purchase from a dealer. However, I’m unsure how this will apply to preowned bikes. My understanding is that any bike, whether new or preowned, purchased after 2025 will still be subject to the new rules, but bikes purchased before 2025 should remain legal. I also suspect that larger companies like Super73, Trek, Electra Giant and many more which produce throttle-equipped bikes, will take legal action. A recall of all bikes sold before 2025 would be impractical and not feasible. Not to mention that California's E bike initiative that grants people $2000 to purchase an E bike has a list of approved E bikes which Rad Power Bikes is an approved bike on the list and they all have thumb throttle. Seems like these lawmakers clearly don't know what they're doing.
I’m still going to ride my cafe cruiser even though it’s a class 3 and in California Stockton but still kinda sketchy riding around here because it’s to ghetto here
I must have about 7 e bike throttles, bought as replacements on existing e bikes. What are they going to do, prohibit parts sales? Are they going to try to shut down DIY?
I don't follow the rules and go 40+mph and I haven't been pulled over. I have mirrors on my bike and I'm always looking for cops Lol. I did contact the company and they said keep it class 2 and I said I'm not going to pay this price to go 20 mph, it's to damn slow Lol. They also told me to switch to PAS only. Pedal to start sucks. What they told me is they are going to sell at class 2 and require a password which is 0000 lol. I told them their sales will go down due to the price and it is sold as class 2.thus law is dumb as hell. I will continue to ride as is and take my chances. All of us need to take a stand and show them how rediculous. Where I live there aren't enough ebikes that they will crack down here.
As much as it sucks I'm starting to think I might register my graffiti x so that I can ride my bike without worrying about getting my bike confiscated and ticketed
I bought a Mars 2.0 a year ago & it's labeled Type 2 with a 20 mph sticker from the manufacturer on the eBike. Type 1 & 2 eBikes are not required to have a speedometer so if the cops have a problem with its speed, they can prosecute Heybike as the cops would need a search warrant to inspect my eBike & I have a Right not to be a witness against myself in their investigation of any suspected articulable crime they think was or may be committed. I was questioned by a cop once recently & he had no problem with my eBike having no chain, chain ring or derailleur & using my throttle only to go over 26mph as I don't weigh as much as the testing weight by law so I naturally will exceed the limiter on the eBike. Especially going downhill with no bicycle speed limit if bicycles aren't required to have a working speedometer like in a car.
I lived in NC for over 35 yrs... Your State is considered a police state. Unconstitutional road blocks when they please. All in the name of "safety". Cops there get away with pulling people over for any reason.
As in Australia and Europe all new e bikes sold cannot have a full throttle or achieve above speed limit imposed unless its used for "Off Road" only, Throttle only e bikes without pedals are deemed a vehicle and must be registered for on road use and you will also need a licence. Pedal throttle combination retail sellers will be banned from selling on road e bikes unless throttle has a max speed of 5mph/8kmph which can assist walking the bike due to weight, (it also gets you started). Break the new throttle laws and nothing will happen unless you are involved in a vehicle accident with the e bike.
The 2025 e-bike law hasn't actually changed much since its 2015 version, just adding a walk mode and prohibiting the sale of noncompliant e-bikes. The language of the law is inconsistent however, - in the e-bike classification section both the 2015 law as well as the 2025 law, class 3 e-bikes appear to be defined as peddle-assist only without any throttle, yet in the new sales prohibition section, an e-bike remains an e-bike if the throttle shuts off at 20 mph. Whatever the law on throttles is, it's somewhat ambiguous for Class 3 bikes, as some interpret the law as a throttle is ok on a Class 3 bike if it shuts off at 20 mph. That would make the most sense due to the fact many Class 3 e-bikes are heavier and would need a throttle assist at starts from a complete stop, more so than Class 2 bikes. If I were establishing the classes, I would explicitly word that into the definition rather than simply leave it ambiguous.
They will be grandfathered in. They can’t afford to pay everyone back for them bikes . I have a Aniioki aq177 it’s 123 pounds / illegal in New York where I live (Go Bills).if they write me a ticket I’m gonna sue NY for allowing the sale of the bike in the first place
You are aware arent you that reprogramming the esc is all thats needed to comply right? Even if you bought a super cheap piece of chinesium with a square wave vfd, you can replace it with a pure sine VESC for less than the piece of junk that vomes with almost all evikes, have higher efficience, quieter operation, and you can apply wattage and speed limitations and still ride your brains out legally, many seem to be obsessing over the idea of q speed limit, which is very resonable given bike tires dont meet dot standards, tubes either, and bicycle wheels are not really up to high speed under load. I just hear people complaining they dont want power limits or speed limits, which they dont have to do. Just register and license qs a moped and be free to run the power ypu want at the speeds you want. Also bicycle helmets (the ones that are actually tested and rated are rated assuming a top speed of 20.
I doubt it, I really don't think shipping them back for a recall is economically feasible. That would crush ebike companies. I have my doubts if they can force you to s*** something back.
Alot of ppl are going to upset if there is a recall. Imagine all the money ppl spend on their ebikes. We ebikers just have to wait and sit this out & see wut happens. 😊 Again, here in Kansas we nvr heard of anything like this.
What if they put up new street signs right under the speed limit for motor vehicles? Bicycles 20mph. 😂 It was law already pretty much with all the wattage and speeds.
I would be more worried about getting robbed on an ebike than a ticket from the LAPD. They don't really enforce traffic laws like Tigard and King City. I used to get stopped on my BMX regularly where you ride.
We have had stupid laws very similar or stricter here in Australia 🇦🇺 unfortunately limiting speeds and no throttle allowed definitely not riding on roads legally unless a normal bike with pedal assist under 250 watts and no throttle. would need registration and licence all under the excuse of safely a total nanny country a have a 72 volt emoto just ride in forests and carefully on foot paths but basically screw the government i take the risk but try to limit risk of impounding.
I'm in Cali. Do they really expect people who just spent thousands on a legal bike to buy another bike and trash their new bike because they decided changed the law going to keep riding mine its only 5 months old
You are not even thinking about what’s been going on down here in California kids are riding 35 mph in the street on these sir Ron electric dirt bikes they have no respect for traffic laws. They speed through shopping center parking lots at a very high rate of speed and I’m happy that this law is finally coming out because there’s a big problem here And you need to look into this and not just give your opinion. Give us facts.
Hold on to your graffiti x and goat power bikes they’re gonna be collectable . Because after 2025 All e-bikes will be vin numbered and specs right on the frame
Once again how do you register and get insurance for your bike , when your bike was not provided a title at the time of purchase. Once again the government created a problem, and now here it comes , they have to fix the problem with tax payers money. Good grief !
Find the names, faces and positions of the people who passed this law and spread awareness so they can get voted out. If they weren't voted in, find out who's above them that was. Make posters and put them up along routes e-bikers would take. Also, don't be polite. Make fun of them. A boring video in the rain gets zero attention, which gets zero results.
I don't think there will be a problem unless you are riding like a total moron. For one how are the cops going to enforce that law? Not enough cops to enforce the laws now.
I. Think it's racist and. One-sided I have a roadbi pedal by my power and I can cruise it. I have it set up. I can cruise it at 30 to 35. And I've never had any problems just cruising it going 30. But my evike I have to have roles and regulations. I have to bunch of bull c*** It's prejudiced. Against electric bikes, it needs to be one role for every bike to speed limit.Cause if then you put me to speed, then I know I have to go certain miles an hour.With my road bike as well.Because I can go way faster than some of these ebytes.So I just think it's bullshit and I will ride no matter what
The people in charge of safety in California need all of their authority taken from them immediately for negligence
This also affects more than just "ebikers". Every single person who uses a pev is now going to have issues. With all these new laws wich will get adopted by most states, 99% of the e-scooters and the e-unicycles will be illegal.
The more they restrict where you can use said equipment, the more cumbersome it will be. Then people will just go back to using petro vehicles.
What most dont talk about or dont realize is that this newer generation predominantly uses e-vehicles.most dont even have a desire to get a license or want to even own a car. Between Uber/Lyft and e-vehicles, they have access to most places they want to go.
This cuts into the pockets of the big car makers and they are not happy about it. The best way to force people back into the petro market is to restrict their freedoms on e-vehicles. Since they cant outright attack it, they do it under the cloak of "safety awareness".
Someone please explain to me how a 16yr old on an ebike doing 30mph is more dangerous than a 16yr old driving a 3000lbs metal brick at 30mph?
None of this is about safety. Its all about annoyance and money.
That’s what I said on yesterday’s video. It’s not about the safety, they don’t give a rats rear end about us. It’s more money for the courts. They have to keep court in session every week! Pay those Judges/Clerks/Bailiffs/Janitors/District Attorneys/Court appointed attorneys salaries! Thank god I can fund and pay for such an amazing place and outstanding humans that always want only the best for me and my life! Wow! (:
They won’t be illegal they will be played and insured
Most of us gonna ignore the law unless cops start setting up e-bike sobriety checkpoints.
That's the problem in the first place, but keep going until ebikes or considered electric motorcycles or need to be tagged, and you start paying fees.
I live in a small mountain community in San Bernardino. There are no protected bike lanes, no shoulders, and STEEP hills. Aka, no bicycle infrastructure in sight. I purpose built my ebike to keep up with traffic no matter the gradient... FOR SAFETY. Both for the safety of the drivers and myself.
I have a motorcycle license and being a grown man, if a cop wants to pull me over, so be it. I'm not 13 and driving like an idiot.
Get a moped license at least
I think everyone should be fine unless they get pulled over for some crazy riding.
Leaving it to the cops discretion means a lot of people are being arrested for some BS scenarios.
@THColt45 Arrested for E bike riding? LMAO
Annoying new laws for the law abiding citizens, while a certain group of people just live ignoring ALL laws as they see fit. Pathetic.
Sounds like you're not playing the game right, who taught you to obey unjust rules of tyrants? You can ignore the government and play their game or get played it's your choice
This has nothing to do with safety it's just a way to stop sales of these bikes
They want you to get a motorcycle license and insurance and register your bike as a motorcycle.
I will never do that, the whole point of ebikes is that they aren't a hassle to use everytime you wanna go riding, having to deal with insurance and registration will kill e mobility if this ends up happening.
@@crazrides3041you're wrong. Moped license is permanent and like 34$ sent to Sacramento. Insurance is good if something happens to your ebike. It will make you more whole than any warranty, especially if you have expensive custom upgrades
It's still a federal regulation, a "low-speed electric bicycle" is limited to 20 MPH under pedal or throttle assist. This covers class 1 and 2. A class 3 e-bike is pedal assist only, there is no "class 3 w/ throttle" e-bike by definition. If there's a throttle and that works above 20 MPH, it's no longer class 2. What to call a bike like that is a different matter.
My take is, with the current federal regs., manufacturers need to abide by those rules in advertising their product regardless of which state. They should not be able to advertise an e-bike w/ throttle as class 3 and if it can be pedaled or throttled above 20 MPH, it can't be advertised as class 2, basic truth in advertising.
Maybe they need to simplify the rules and have, for example, a revised class 1 up to 15 (like Europe) or 20 MPH with pedal or throttle. Then a revised class 2 up to 28 MPH with pedal or throttle. Or make the throttle assist cut out at 20 MPH in any class if there's a valid reason for that. At a minimum, there needs to be some clarification of the existing definitions as they are confusing to consumers and offer too many "interpretations" for mfgs.
Where I live in CA, almost all the dedicated multi-use trails have a 15 MPH speed limit for bikes of any sort. For bike lanes along roads, there's no separate bike speed limit. I have seen radar speed signs and traps on bike trails in the area and have seen bike riders pulled over by rangers for speed violations. Some of the open space areas around here prohibit all manner of e-bikes.
I'm looking into getting an e-bike, ideally I wanted class 1, but may end up with class 3 (pedal assist only) to get the other features I want. I'm thinking ahead to avoid getting a bike that may some day be prohibited from bike paths, for example. That's why I'm torn between class 1 and 3. I think class 1 would be the more "immune" to being restricted than class 3.
I called my local pd and they said if I'm doing 20 it's not even legal to stop me to check my bikes specs. So just do 20 when going around town. I live in Sacramento and we have a state park that runs through the town and it's got hundreds of miles of dirt trails.
@@MrDucksBill Yes, I wouldn't really want to ride faster than 20 in any event. I'm in the SF Bay Area. At least 2 of the county park districts allow e-bikes on trails that allow regular bikes. We also have Open Space Districts and the one around me bans e-bikes on almost all their trails. Some cities, like Palo Alto, have banned e-bikes on unpaved trails in the city.
Looks like CA state parks have varied e-bike rules, search for "E-Bikes in CA State Parks". Most are Class-1 only, although there are some -2 and -3 allowed. Not sure if the state parks have bike speed limits on trails or not.
This is one factor pushing me towards a Class-1 e-bike, if only I could find one meeting my needs. I found one, but it uses a Shimano motor, which I've heard has poor serviceability compared to Bosch. All the Bosch motor bikes I've found that are interesting seem to be Class-3.
@The4Crawler damn that's a lot of words. Sf an la fuck our state. Maga
The law eventually will need to modify class 3 to explicitly allow a throttle up to 15 or 20 mph, as many elderly will need a full 750W motor to run their heavy trikes, and the elderly will have difficulty pedaling up from a complete stop on those heavier e-bikes. This is a matter of safety. If a heavier e-bikes are always hesitating in an intersection, that will make using the e-bike vastly more dangerous. A low-speed throttle is the solution to that.
@@shakapedia17class 2 has throttle, class does not
I'm in California and yes I'm going to keep riding my class 3 Ebike. The police out here in my area don't care unless you start doing wheelies and other attention seeking stuff, wouldn't be surprised If they don't even know about the new law.
I’m in California & I will not follow these bogus laws. 100% percent I’m gonna still going keep riding my Eride Pro SS to work and back. I don’t swerve through or pop wheelies in traffic. Cops in my area (Oxnard) don’t ever bother me.
Vote out the people who are for this kind of law or leave CA!!!!!its to regulated!!! And corrupt!!!!
The law needs to include a grandfather clause by date of manufacture to the date of the law enacted.
Watch John Hicks race around LA California on his Suron & you will see the disconnect between the laws & enforcement. somehow he manages to have fun, post videos & no legal consequences, yet, lol. Interesting to see what happens
Yep.
The problem with most laws its how they are enforced or if they're enforced. Im in Texas and they allow Gold Carts on the road even though by law its illegal but as long as they have working lights, horn, and a flag or something the back, nobody cares. People ride them to go to the store or on the weekends.
How about switch off one good battery and have another tiny battery with just enough juice to barely spin the wheel and light the display?. When cops come just switch to the tiny dead battery that has no way of putting enough current out to get over 500 watts. Lol
before i got an e-bike i was riding a 50cc cruiser bike that could go 35 and i never once got pulled over I even passed by cops many times on it and never had an issue and gas bikes were regulated well before e-bikes here in cali I did not have it registered I don't even have a license. Nobody gonna stop you unless your being stupid and putting yourself or others in danger. just don't be stupid and you will be fine no cop gonna waste time just to check if your bike is within regulation. These are what I call unenforceable laws that end up only being applied to those who are stupid and deserve it.
You bring up an excellent point-if we purchased these bikes when they were legal, it doesn’t make sense for them to suddenly declare our purchases illegal. These bikes are expensive, and most of them come with throttles, whether it’s a thumb throttle or a twist throttle. It’s unreasonable to tell someone who spent thousands of dollars on a bike just a few weeks ago that it’s now illegal to own.
I believe that anyone who bought their bike before 2025 should be fine, as long as they can provide proof of purchase from a dealer. However, I’m unsure how this will apply to preowned bikes. My understanding is that any bike, whether new or preowned, purchased after 2025 will still be subject to the new rules, but bikes purchased before 2025 should remain legal.
I also suspect that larger companies like Super73, Trek, Electra Giant and many more which produce throttle-equipped bikes, will take legal action. A recall of all bikes sold before 2025 would be impractical and not feasible. Not to mention that California's E bike initiative that grants people $2000 to purchase an E bike has a list of approved E bikes which Rad Power Bikes is an approved bike on the list and they all have thumb throttle. Seems like these lawmakers clearly don't know what they're doing.
I’m still going to ride my cafe cruiser even though it’s a class 3 and in California Stockton but still kinda sketchy riding around here because it’s to ghetto here
I love this new law. So many ebikers in my area doing wheelies and going 35+mph on open roads ruined it for the rest of us unfortunately.
Yes
I must have about 7 e bike throttles, bought as replacements on existing e bikes. What are they going to do, prohibit parts sales? Are they going to try to shut down DIY?
I live on an island off the coast of Maine. Even if Maine adopts the California laws, I don’t think it will be enforced out here.
I don't follow the rules and go 40+mph and I haven't been pulled over. I have mirrors on my bike and I'm always looking for cops Lol. I did contact the company and they said keep it class 2 and I said I'm not going to pay this price to go 20 mph, it's to damn slow Lol. They also told me to switch to PAS only. Pedal to start sucks. What they told me is they are going to sell at class 2 and require a password which is 0000 lol. I told them their sales will go down due to the price and it is sold as class 2.thus law is dumb as hell. I will continue to ride as is and take my chances. All of us need to take a stand and show them how rediculous. Where I live there aren't enough ebikes that they will crack down here.
Don't get caught speeding
As much as it sucks I'm starting to think I might register my graffiti x so that I can ride my bike without worrying about getting my bike confiscated and ticketed
I have Cyc photon on my SE bike. The throttle is faster than 20mph, but I can set a limit to 20mph, do you think it's still legal? Thanks.
What bike are you riding in the rain?
I bought a Mars 2.0 a year ago & it's labeled Type 2 with a 20 mph sticker from the manufacturer on the eBike. Type 1 & 2 eBikes are not required to have a speedometer so if the cops have a problem with its speed, they can prosecute Heybike as the cops would need a search warrant to inspect my eBike & I have a Right not to be a witness against myself in their investigation of any suspected articulable crime they think was or may be committed. I was questioned by a cop once recently & he had no problem with my eBike having no chain, chain ring or derailleur & using my throttle only to go over 26mph as I don't weigh as much as the testing weight by law so I naturally will exceed the limiter on the eBike. Especially going downhill with no bicycle speed limit if bicycles aren't required to have a working speedometer like in a car.
The problem is the younger crowd doing wheelies and riding crazy.
Now you need to get a motorcycle license and motorcycle insurance an is now a moped
im glad i dont have to fallow them rules in north carolina here e-bikes and scooters are not a problem to operate around town .
I lived in NC for over 35 yrs... Your State is considered a police state. Unconstitutional road blocks when they please. All in the name of "safety". Cops there get away with pulling people over for any reason.
If you get pulled over just tell them you're an illegal and they'll let you go.
As in Australia and Europe all new e bikes sold cannot have a full throttle or achieve above speed limit imposed unless its used for "Off Road" only, Throttle only e bikes without pedals are deemed a vehicle and must be registered for on road use and you will also need a licence. Pedal throttle combination retail sellers will be banned from selling on road e bikes unless throttle has a max speed of 5mph/8kmph which can assist walking the bike due to weight, (it also gets you started). Break the new throttle laws and nothing will happen unless you are involved in a vehicle accident with the e bike.
The 2025 e-bike law hasn't actually changed much since its 2015 version, just adding a walk mode and prohibiting the sale of noncompliant e-bikes. The language of the law is inconsistent however, - in the e-bike classification section both the 2015 law as well as the 2025 law, class 3 e-bikes appear to be defined as peddle-assist only without any throttle, yet in the new sales prohibition section, an e-bike remains an e-bike if the throttle shuts off at 20 mph. Whatever the law on throttles is, it's somewhat ambiguous for Class 3 bikes, as some interpret the law as a throttle is ok on a Class 3 bike if it shuts off at 20 mph. That would make the most sense due to the fact many Class 3 e-bikes are heavier and would need a throttle assist at starts from a complete stop, more so than Class 2 bikes. If I were establishing the classes, I would explicitly word that into the definition rather than simply leave it ambiguous.
New law turned any bike that go faster then 750w
I ride my ebike here north Carolina I am getting me kneepad so I can ride to work carefully
My globe haul has throttle you just disconnect it and take it off.
They will be grandfathered in. They can’t afford to pay everyone back for them bikes . I have a Aniioki aq177 it’s 123 pounds / illegal in New York where I live (Go Bills).if they write me a ticket I’m gonna sue NY for allowing the sale of the bike in the first place
You are aware arent you that reprogramming the esc is all thats needed to comply right? Even if you bought a super cheap piece of chinesium with a square wave vfd, you can replace it with a pure sine VESC for less than the piece of junk that vomes with almost all evikes, have higher efficience, quieter operation, and you can apply wattage and speed limitations and still ride your brains out legally, many seem to be obsessing over the idea of q speed limit, which is very resonable given bike tires dont meet dot standards, tubes either, and bicycle wheels are not really up to high speed under load. I just hear people complaining they dont want power limits or speed limits, which they dont have to do. Just register and license qs a moped and be free to run the power ypu want at the speeds you want. Also bicycle helmets (the ones that are actually tested and rated are rated assuming a top speed of 20.
Here in Canada it's 32km only throttle or not.this law might come here you never know.
I doubt it, I really don't think shipping them back for a recall is economically feasible. That would crush ebike companies. I have my doubts if they can force you to s*** something back.
It’s a new California law that effects new E bikes purchased and connected to after January 1st only.
Alot of ppl are going to upset if there is a recall. Imagine all the money ppl spend on their ebikes. We ebikers just have to wait and sit this out & see wut happens. 😊 Again, here in Kansas we nvr heard of anything like this.
What if they put up new street signs right under the speed limit for motor vehicles? Bicycles 20mph. 😂 It was law already pretty much with all the wattage and speeds.
I would be more worried about getting robbed on an ebike than a ticket from the LAPD. They don't really enforce traffic laws like Tigard and King City. I used to get stopped on my BMX regularly where you ride.
I expect Oregon to follow California’s lead with Washington not far behind. You get the government you vote for.
The ability to Switch between modes🎉
I would be worried about electrocution risk in rain
We have had stupid laws very similar or stricter here in Australia 🇦🇺 unfortunately limiting speeds and no throttle allowed definitely not riding on roads legally unless a normal bike with pedal assist under 250 watts and no throttle. would need registration and licence all under the excuse of safely a total nanny country a have a 72 volt emoto just ride in forests and carefully on foot paths but basically screw the government i take the risk but try to limit risk of impounding.
I'm in Cali. Do they really expect people who just spent thousands on a legal bike to buy another bike and trash their new bike because they decided changed the law going to keep riding mine its only 5 months old
You are not even thinking about what’s been going on down here in California kids are riding 35 mph in the street on these sir Ron electric dirt bikes they have no respect for traffic laws. They speed through shopping center parking lots at a very high rate of speed and I’m happy that this law is finally coming out because there’s a big problem here And you need to look into this and not just give your opinion. Give us facts.
Hold on to your graffiti x and goat power bikes they’re gonna be collectable . Because after 2025 All e-bikes will be vin numbered and specs right on the frame
Collectors yes.
Once again how do you register and get insurance for your bike , when your bike was not provided a title at the time of purchase.
Once again the government created a problem, and now here it comes , they have to fix the problem with tax payers money.
Good grief !
Since they didnt say anything about dual motor ebikes i think that might be a loophole to have two 750 watt motors haha.
LMFAO. Ummm just take the throttle off the bike. It's not that hard. Lol
Like California doesn't already have enough problems
Yes I'm planning on getting a electric bike that goes 40 mph
they seem to be registering them as scooters
Just keep riding
Find the names, faces and positions of the people who passed this law and spread awareness so they can get voted out. If they weren't voted in, find out who's above them that was. Make posters and put them up along routes e-bikers would take.
Also, don't be polite. Make fun of them. A boring video in the rain gets zero attention, which gets zero results.
Other words they ban e bike and stop all sell for theses bikes
They will steal your bike
Trump needs to put a 1000% tariff on eBikes coming from CHINA! Also from MeHeCo!
I don't think there will be a problem unless you are riding like a total moron.
For one how are the cops going to enforce that law? Not enough cops to enforce the laws now.
Probably make a law where any ebike that has a throttle need a motorcycle license and/or be registered to the state
Vote MAGA or get out of CA
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Think it's racist and. One-sided I have a roadbi pedal by my power and I can cruise it. I have it set up. I can cruise it at 30 to 35. And I've never had any problems just cruising it going 30. But my evike I have to have roles and regulations. I have to bunch of bull c*** It's prejudiced. Against electric bikes, it needs to be one role for every bike to speed limit.Cause if then you put me to speed, then I know I have to go certain miles an hour.With my road bike as well.Because I can go way faster than some of these ebytes.So I just think it's bullshit and I will ride no matter what
You don't have a clue about it, why should we pay attention to this video?