Ep130: The God Virus: How Religion Infects Our Lives and Culture w/ Dr. Darrel Ray
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 ก.ย. 2024
- On this episode of Mormonish Podcast, Rebecca and Landon sit down with Dr. Darrel Ray, founder of the Recovery From Religion organization to discuss the theory behind his book, "The God Virus: How Religion Affects Our Lives and Cultures.
Dr. Ray's innovative theory compares biological virus strategies of survival and domination to methods of religious propagation throughout the world. Once you understand these innovative concepts, you will view religion in a whole new way.
Dr. Ray is one of our favorite guests and we just love to talk to him. We know you'll really enjoy the conversation too.
Dr. Ray's Links:
Recovering From Religion
www.recovering...
"The God Virus: How Religion Affects Our Lives and Cultures," Dr. Darrell Ray
"Sex and God: How Religion Distorts Sexuality," by Dr. Darrell Ray
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Hey, Darrel, now 82 and a Mormon atheist, I left my church nine years ago. Part of my loss of faith was the result of the trauma I experienced after a breakdown on my Mormon mission 62 years ago. The mental effect of that trauma has been the gift of a 62-year bout of PTSD. I appreciate the fact that you talk about religion-caused trauma. It is nice to see you here tonight. As a Literature professor, I used to teach sections of the Old and New Testaments; however, to do so with integrity, I had to dive deeply and study as hard as hell. My study lead me out of respect for Judeo-Christian religion, including Mormon christianity. I have tried to be ecclectic in my interests , so when I first heard you talk, I felt I understood you somewhat. Any way, Darrel, If I have learned anything in life, as a result of my PTSD, including the accompanying anxiety, depression, and shame, I have learned more about good mental health practices than I ever wanted to know, all thanks to my psychologist wife, the mental health experts I have employed, the many books I have read, and men and women who care enough to share from study and experience. You are one of those people: thank you! Oh yes, I owned a little factory, and it was rather productive,
Spectacular!!!!! Thank you so much!!!!! Liquid truth!!!!
This is a phenomenal episode, thank you Rebecca and Landon and especially Dr. Ray for your contribution to this community!
Thanks so much for watching!❤
Wonderful interview! Thanks!
As a college professor,I taught critical thinking to my students, and I believed in its value. But I was not willing to apply that concept to my religion, until one day I said to myself, "You hypocrite. You don't do with your religion what you teach your students to do concerning good thinking." It was only when I took my own advice that I could finally resign from my church, late though it was. I left at age 75, that same age that I retired from teaching. At 82, I am much more willing to be open to new ideas than I was when I was learning and later teaching what I had learned.
Am glad I found Darrell Ray and All of you who work and do interviews and programs about religion. You are a treasure of understanding?
Outstanding episode. Dr. Ray’s books are extremely revealing and describe Mormonism well. Sex and God explains that Mormonism is THE most sexually oppressive of American religions…which seems to explain much of the mental health issues in Mormon culture
What a great conversation! I especially love the last bit about compassion. Arguing is not an effective way to cure people of the god virus.
I can honestly say I enjoyed every minute!
Loved this episode!! Thank you all!
And I’m buying the book!
Recently read the book. Highly recommend. Enjoyed this conversation!
This is very interesting. Thank you for sharing.
What a useful paradigm. Thanks!
Fascinating conversation. What I love about the points. I like the points raised. I'm looking up podcasts about 30 years war.
I just listened to that book. I look forward to hearing your discussion!❤
Dr Ray is so fun! I think you'll really enjoy the episode.
I loved this. Missed the very beginning, so will come back to it tomorrow. I completely agree with Dr. Ray. I'm not sure if he talked about how conspiracy theories are also viruses. I see it happening within families where the parents are what I would call conspiracy theorists. When a parent believes a thing, that viral idea gets passed on to their offspring, who may be even stronger believers.
I am virus free. May I suggest going on a mission, is often the cure?
Anxiously waiting to hear what the Gawd Virus is...
Anxiously wondering what R & L are going to wear for St. Patty's Day too!
Raised in a very devout Catholic family I remember at about age 14 right in the middle of Mass thinking to myself…This whole religion thing is just ridiculous. I became an atheist right then and there. Of course I still waited until I left home at age 18 to stop going to church out of respect for my parents. I’m in my 60’s now. Zero regrets.
I wish you would have pushed back on the idea that celibacy is perverse. Asexual people are valid and not perverted, and it’s very possible that some religious celibates are asexual and that’s part of what drew them to that lifestyle. That was really allo-normative and it’s your job as hosts to call out harmful biases like that.
Celibacy and asexuality are not the same and are not synonymous. Celibacy is abstaining from sex, whereas asexuality is a lack of sexual attraction. Two different things.
Right! Forced celibacy is very damaging. But being asexual is how one is wired. No problem.
I believe in the early years of the Catholic Church, (correct me if I’m wrong) priest were allowed marriage. When inheritance was left to family and not the church, celibacy for priests was eventually enacted. No family ties only church ties and all inheritance went into church coffers. The hypocrisy was, sex was still happening within the priestly class and some popes were known to throw wild orgies.🫣
Celibacy is in no way related to asexuality. I go into more detail in my book Sex and God. The issue is forced celibacy. Of course, some priests may be asexual and that may have been one of the attractions for them, but the vast majority of Catholic priests are not asexual, they are sexual and being forced to deny that part of themselves. Being asexual is natural and normal, celibacy is not natural and not normal. It is a perversion that is forced upon the individual whether Buddhist priest or Catholic priest or any other religion that imposes a specific sexuality. It is the same when a religion imposes heternormative sexuality on to an LGBTQ person. @@ginafrancis4950
I love God. No one will convince me otherwise. I don’t understand why there’s this big push of when people leave religions to make other people atheist. Not all of us want to become atheist. We just don’t want to belong to a cult.
I was a Catholic. There was no pressure to become a celibate priest or nun and I was surrounded by them. (Catholic schools). Also, I never heard any criticism of other faiths from the pulpit. They never tried to convert anybody either. That was just my experience. I left because I never bought into the Jesus story.
The problem with your fundamentalists is the problem with your fundamentals.- Noah Lugions