It is indeed a JPII at tier X, which is actually a good thing. We haven't had that in the game yet, and while it's not the best thing since sliced bread it's actually a very versatile triangle that could excel in any map (gun very accurate so it can snipe, not super mobile but very agile so can brawl and follow push, has some armor to bounce a few shots here and there, and alpha is juicy enough to trade)
360 AP penetration is actually high for a tank destroyer. AP has 5 degrees of normalization. It isnt 420 HEAT tier, but it is around 390 HEAT level (268 gold ammo)
It actually depends on the angle, for e.g. on e100 upperplate the 360 AP is more effective than the 420 HEAT, on flat surfaces like E100 Turret the 420 HEAT is more effective, on the FOCH frontal plate the are more or less the same
It isn’t really shown in this video, but those 360 AP gold rounds are no joke. The normalization makes it pen more than you think and the shell velocity and penetration drop off are underrated. you kinda get the best if both worlds with Apcr and Heat.
@@Cliphonical wargaming has an indepth video on how armor and penetration works. But if you want the short version it’s basically the degree a bullet can wedge its way into the armor upon contact. Ap has 5% APCR 2% and HEAT has 0. The main impact it has is how well the ammo type does against spaced, and to a lesser extent, angled armor. Hence why HEAT struggles so much spaced armor and screens.
If anyone remembers the OG Object 263. You'll remember it as a sophisticated brute that could play the hammerhead as well as mid range support. It had in my opinion one of the best guns in the game. Excellent DPM. Reliable accuracy!! For a Russian! And super strong front armour. It was balanced by the open topped cabin being pretty much lined with live ammunition making arty ammo racks almost inevitable. Equally had some of the weakest fuel tanks of all tier 10 tanks. The Ho Ri 3 really does remind me of the old 263. Good alpha combined with a pretty fast reload. Good mobility and some useable armour. It's pretty much a JgPzE100 and Object 263 lovechild. Whilst I do enjoy it I do think they could have made the line more interesting. The ammo type for premium is Armour Piercing High Explosive. Standard is regular AP. This would suggest that one type has lower penetration, lower velocity but higher alpha damage. I think this could have made the line more interesting. Ho Ri could have shells stats like: DMG: 700/800/950 Penetration: 300/230/90 I think this would make the tank more unique as well as doing the same with the 9/8 tiers. Also (small rant) the Chi-To SP is borderline broken at tier 7. It's not fun at all against tier 5-6 and it's own tier. It's gotta get a nerf. Preferably larger cupola and weaker hull armour. Leave the cabin/superstructure as 254 so it can use it but pls. Give it penable weakspots!!
U gotta angle. U 1st line sniper. Take shot and get behind cover. The engine gets broken almost every time you get shot. Its a worse jagdtiger/jg pz E100.
true but what i meant is that its more punishing for newer players because it has no armor, so a skilled player can play around it and use its strenghts.
@@nkzeta2315 yeah that’s true. The biggest minus for me is that this thing is ugly AF 😂😂😭😭 if they would’ve at least designed it in a pretty way.. but this supersized shoebox man it’s something special 😂
For me, this tank has a really trollish gun. Even with upgraded bounty aiming device, reduced dispersion field mod and premium consumables, most shots don't go anywhere near where I am aiming. Had the same problem with the tier 9, but not nearly as bad.
when the barrel shows through a wall (like the Obj 430U's barrel at 4:13), if the gun is fired will the shell magically go through the wall? or will it hit the wall closest to the tank that just fired? Or like where does the shell exit the tank from? the end of the barrel (normal real-life logic) or the gun mantlet (fake in-game logic)? Asking for a friend.
The shell wouldn't go through the wall, the only reason the gun pokes through is wargaming can't model the game to prevent the gun moving through solid walls.
Wargaming promoted this tank as a Jagdpanzer E 100 counterpart. But from what I've seen, it seems to be more like a fat Jagdpanther II at tier 10.
It is exactly a Jagdpanther II at tier X
It is indeed a JPII at tier X, which is actually a good thing. We haven't had that in the game yet, and while it's not the best thing since sliced bread it's actually a very versatile triangle that could excel in any map (gun very accurate so it can snipe, not super mobile but very agile so can brawl and follow push, has some armor to bounce a few shots here and there, and alpha is juicy enough to trade)
agreed. this bring back the old good memories when jp2 is the meta
My life is completed ❤
360 AP penetration is actually high for a tank destroyer. AP has 5 degrees of normalization. It isnt 420 HEAT tier, but it is around 390 HEAT level (268 gold ammo)
Wait till you hear about WoTB's tier 10 one lol
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It actually depends on the angle, for e.g. on e100 upperplate the 360 AP is more effective than the 420 HEAT, on flat surfaces like E100 Turret the 420 HEAT is more effective, on the FOCH frontal plate the are more or less the same
sorry but its just not, 390 heat shreds E3 cupola while 360 ap will not pen it reliably, also heat doesn't lose pen over distance
@@durachoks depends on angle.. in some cases 360 has better penetrating power than 395 heat.. at like 45°-59.99° especially
Heat overall better, this is never debated
It isn’t really shown in this video, but those 360 AP gold rounds are no joke. The normalization makes it pen more than you think and the shell velocity and penetration drop off are underrated. you kinda get the best if both worlds with Apcr and Heat.
Yes, its prettty much on par with 395 HEAT. Better in some situations and worse in some others.
What is the normalization you and some others are talking about? Can you tell me bro
@@Cliphonical wargaming has an indepth video on how armor and penetration works. But if you want the short version it’s basically the degree a bullet can wedge its way into the armor upon contact. Ap has 5% APCR 2% and HEAT has 0. The main impact it has is how well the ammo type does against spaced, and to a lesser extent, angled armor. Hence why HEAT struggles so much spaced armor and screens.
@@infinity-vm4ul oh yess i knew this, thank you for clarfying bro
Lower pen on the prem round from the TD side, but it's AP pen, not HEAT. I'd rather play with 360 AP than 390 heat for example.
Im convinced the first sentence the baboon king learned as a baby was "like there is no tomorrow" lmao
Baboon came into the world calling his father a “gentleman”
By any shape or any form
It looks so much more fun to play than 268/4, just because of reliable gun.
Simply love the dancers on your games, it always makes me smile and reminds me of old times when fun was more important than stats
No i did not you hacker 😄
nothing has changed, wast majority plays for fun
The bruuururuuuruuruuu when skill attempts to drawn last game is priceless😂😂😂
If anyone remembers the OG Object 263. You'll remember it as a sophisticated brute that could play the hammerhead as well as mid range support. It had in my opinion one of the best guns in the game. Excellent DPM. Reliable accuracy!! For a Russian! And super strong front armour. It was balanced by the open topped cabin being pretty much lined with live ammunition making arty ammo racks almost inevitable. Equally had some of the weakest fuel tanks of all tier 10 tanks. The Ho Ri 3 really does remind me of the old 263. Good alpha combined with a pretty fast reload. Good mobility and some useable armour. It's pretty much a JgPzE100 and Object 263 lovechild. Whilst I do enjoy it I do think they could have made the line more interesting. The ammo type for premium is Armour Piercing High Explosive. Standard is regular AP. This would suggest that one type has lower penetration, lower velocity but higher alpha damage. I think this could have made the line more interesting. Ho Ri could have shells stats like:
DMG: 700/800/950
Penetration: 300/230/90
I think this would make the tank more unique as well as doing the same with the 9/8 tiers. Also (small rant) the Chi-To SP is borderline broken at tier 7. It's not fun at all against tier 5-6 and it's own tier. It's gotta get a nerf. Preferably larger cupola and weaker hull armour. Leave the cabin/superstructure as 254 so it can use it but pls. Give it penable weakspots!!
You should realy try out t7, it's insane and t9 is also lot better tier per tier than t10
The premium shells are better than they look because AP has normalization which HEAT shells don't, meaning that it ignores some armor sloping.
I thought HEAT pens with 85% angle anyway
85 degrees of threshold for ricocheting. even if your caliber is x3 or more than that of the impacted armor, it wont auto pen@@dylanandmolly3739
U gotta angle. U 1st line sniper. Take shot and get behind cover. The engine gets broken almost every time you get shot. Its a worse jagdtiger/jg pz E100.
seems like object 268 v4 with no armor and better gun handling. probably deadly in the hands of a skilled player.
In the hands of a skilled player every tank is great.. look at mailand.. he makes the most garbage tanks look like they’re a chieftain. :D
true but what i meant is that its more punishing for newer players because it has no armor, so a skilled player can play around it and use its strenghts.
@@nkzeta2315 yeah that’s true. The biggest minus for me is that this thing is ugly AF 😂😂😭😭 if they would’ve at least designed it in a pretty way.. but this supersized shoebox man it’s something special 😂
@@its_marcel_ lol exactly, I kinda like its playstyle, but I dont want to get it because its ugly as hell xD
For me, this tank has a really trollish gun. Even with upgraded bounty aiming device, reduced dispersion field mod and premium consumables, most shots don't go anywhere near where I am aiming. Had the same problem with the tier 9, but not nearly as bad.
Bruhh Skill become Godly when he plays The Hori 3 😎💪🏻
its def good if not very good, 5k requirement for 3 marks speaks for itself
it just got released, so ppl are testing it, it will decrease a lot as the weeks goes on
@@matheusguerrascheffer6518 ya, ofc but if you compare it to recently released bz which has 4.5k, clearly HOri is better
Finnaly a good tier x TD
It's literally a tier 10 Jagdpanther II
The reverse and traverse speed seem so good
Not to mention the cano rating on it is great for a TD its size. Way better than the JPzE100
I look at it as a slower Jagdpanther 2 at tier 10 or similar to it anyway
This is basically a lighter v4
It looks like the GW e100 with a roof added
Managed to reach 85% moe with it, now i starting to mald like there is no tomorrow.
Skill what happened to crew skills on every tank, i cant find them on index page
Hmm.. Skill the 🍌 dancing is almost criminal.. 😊 The reverse speed is nice..
when the barrel shows through a wall (like the Obj 430U's barrel at 4:13), if the gun is fired will the shell magically go through the wall? or will it hit the wall closest to the tank that just fired? Or like where does the shell exit the tank from? the end of the barrel (normal real-life logic) or the gun mantlet (fake in-game logic)? Asking for a friend.
The shell wouldn't go through the wall, the only reason the gun pokes through is wargaming can't model the game to prevent the gun moving through solid walls.
I research that one today tier8 and 9 gun is absolutely madness doesnt hit anything. Hopefully i am going to have fun with tier 10 japanese td
Do a test of tier VII Japan TD. After you get new microphone, please.
Skill dancing with fellow baoons always makes me smile. I am with you in spirit from the NA server! Pipis rasied boys!
I Wars waitîg for this vidéo !
Great Video!!
Love u❤
Your previous mic was better (more natural)
This condenser is for radio broadcasting
This tank seems like daddy feddi on steroids 😂
I'd always dance for you skill
16:18 to 24:52 "KILL STEAL!" 🤣😂
Now I want a chocolate covered frozen banana. Curse you Skill :P
Man skill the kabob dance 😂
@dmMr_skill4ltu Hey skill what is the giveaway for ?!
@dmMr_skill4ltu fake profile lol . Nice try was seeing if you would keep trying
Is there anyway to find people to play with, im a new player and i feel like its more fun to play with friends.
My record with this tank in test server was 7,6k damage
Its king until you meet Type 5 with derp gun:)
Guys how i do set my team and enemy team list without color like skill instead of green/red color? TNX
Color blind mode in game settings
i suppose m6 need an update
360 of AP is to the lower side? Really? Ok!
You shot me in the ass few weeks ago! How xan I dance when you shot me from behind?
Gooday skill!
Can anyone tell me where skillz is from?
He is from 立陶宛
@@liu7781 LOL 🤣 right
Armor is horrible. They was compering to German td's that is a bad joke. You can play just from back, hiding and sniping!
IS it ; Ho-Ri-bl3 ? 🙃😉🤑(Not - really ;)
I eat this garbage with my tier9 td 263
come and play on the NA servers, I want to dance :)
the gun is hitting like a truck full of bananas? ... is that hard? as trucks go that seems kind of light and squishy?
ggs
T9 better i think
Is this a tank?😂😂 it looks like a tiny tiny toy from childhood 😭
You most stop whaiping not good for you😅A Swedish snus is what u need😅
lol skin 😂
It should be HO-RI-3-LE
Horible 🤣
skill and 907 has to be banned..lika all other players for this
Yeah it's kind of borderline because had the 907 killed him, he wouldn't have gotten WZ or arty. 2 extra shots of damage and 2 extra kills.
Bla bla bla ...wargaming gay , you usen bot. reported
To be honest, i love the Tier 9 but hate the Tier 10.
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