Denon DJ Prime GO - Pro? REALLY?
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- After using the Denon DJ Prime GO for several months, and also using it in real gig situations, I wanted to report back on my thoughts. Can this REALLY be used as a "pro" controller?
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Loved your tutorial on this device. I learned a lot from it!
Thanks a lot!
i have had a denon prime go for a few months now. I bought it as an additional console for my prime4. Prime go is great, fully functional and very convenient for playing smaller events
Nice one, glad you're getting use from it :)
This was amazing. I wish I had known about this early. Watching this as if it was live was fun!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Thanks for this review, saving money right now to buy one of these to get my mobile DJ thing started 👍👍
Have fun!
Still enjoying my Prime Go going on 2 years now. The 3.2 update makes it even more enjoyable! Just added my Beatsource subscription too
Great, we love the Prime GO too.
How are you finding the auto analysis of the bpm and beat grids? I’m struggling with beatport as all my tracks are showing odd
i think it's an awesome format and concept ! also finally Ogg Vorbis compatible, this machine would be also a nice digital stream product for the home audio room,
no phone or tablet nonsense, or bad audio
It's a great bit of kit :)
Great rewiev. Cant wait to see how they'll update these Really hefty controllers
You and me both!
I think it will rock a party. I enjoy mixing on it. Great job phil. DJ SPINMASTER
It sure can! 😄
Hi, Phil can you make a video on your music organization from download to import on the prime go? Thanks and keep up the good work.
Thanks for the suggestion Carlos, good idea
I Love My Denon Dj Prime Go. No laptop needed. I can edit my tracks within it. If I go somewhere I plug in then I’m out and NO OTHER GERMS TOUCHING MY GEAR. 👍🏻
Good point!
Really good video about the device, thank you for that! I was wondering: Why did you think there would not be a new version ‘anytime soon’. And, since this video is from a year ago, do you think there will be a new one quite soon? Cause I’m thinking of buying one, but of course it would be a bummer is a new one appears within say half a year of course. Btw, I subbed!
Still don't think there will be a new one soon, jist a hunch but this is still very current and well supported.
Absolutely BRILLIANT overview Phil and I couldn't agree more, it's the little quirky things that they really do need to fix. One point that I'm staggered you didn't pick up on and is BY FAR my biggest gripe about this product is this: Many DJ controllers really do not cater properly for use of Microphones and will often be fitted with a standard quarter inch jack, or maybe one of these alongside an XLR input (as is the case with Denons MC6000 MkII) They have clearly thought about this here, hence the inclusion of TWO XLR Balanced Inputs. GREAT so far. So you plug your mics in, and what is the first thing you do with your Mics? Yes that's right, you EQ them . . . except on this unit . . . you can't! UTTERLY CLUELESS on Denon's part here. Why on earth would you equip such a unit with XLR Mic inputs yet not extend them basic EQ controls? There is also an extensive effects unit built in as well, and surprise surprise, this can't be used by the Mic channels either! Mr Holland wrote below about Denon listening to their users. Sorry but they really DON'T. This point was brought up in one of their product showcases OVER A YEAR ago and they acknowledged it. Was it actioned? NO! I am lost for words as to why Denon would release such a product with such a serious flaw. I have spoken to their technical department a few times and have been assured that this is being "looked into" however I'm sadly not holding my breath :(
Maybe they can add some kind of EQ within the firmware. To be fair there are EQs on the larger models. I am not a big microphone user and I’m happy to use it with just a volume control.
I believe it can. I just got it a couple weeks ago and tested it out at house party and will use it for my first bar booking this friday.
Awesome! Let us know how you get on
@@digitaldjtips Will do! Very nervous as its my first public gig for a four hour set. For the last year its just been small private parties. Any quick tips?
Prepare and rehearse your first three transitions so you can do it in your sleep, you'll most likely relax after that but it'll keep the nerves in check for the first 15 minutes where you're second guessing yourself
Great video thank you!!! Are there ports to connect samplers and other instruments?
No, only a single aux input
I always have a hotcue at start of the track, originally thats all used them for. It's quicker than pressing shift and cue in the long run. 1 button instead of 2, that is a short cut. Like the idea of this I intended to get one for small gigs until lockdown
Yes definitely one way around the issue :)
I just bought this dec 2022 due to this review and a few others (Mojaxx, Cleavand Terry).. thank you!
Hope you enjoy it! We love ours, use it constantly.
Getting into the scene and wondering how much fun I’m missing out on with no beat slicer function. Can I add an external beat slicer midi pad if I wanted?
Hey Phil !!!
On the Denon Prime4, You can get to the beginning of the track
if while the track is playing, you press SHIFT+CUE !!!!!
Thanks, doesn't work on the Prime Go - if you watched the whole thing you probably saw us try it later on :)
Are there any other super handy tips like this for the prime 4?
Why not use the Traktor Z1 and X1 combo instead of the Numark for a premium feel when your using your laptop?
This unit will be the star of summer 2021. No indoor venues where Im at leaves outside the only place to party. This will save the need to power laptops in the middle of nowhere. We'll be running a 4000w car stereo off a series of car batteries & this machine is getting its own dedicated powerbank, with an internal 4 hours & external 6 hours.... Thats a party, friends!
Sounds like a plan!
Jai ve dacheter un denon korme ca
precious dj tips
Many many thanks
Greetings from Chicago DJ SPINMASTER
Thanks for watching :)
Hi Phil
I agree with you re the issues that need addressing in the software, have you had feedback from Denon DJ when these issues will be resolved?
No. we have told them what we think, though.
I own both Prime GO and Prime 4 one year already, I love them both, except waiting an update that fix Prime GO level meter on channel gain, I really don't have anything else to complain. Of corse the big issue with streaming services also because I'm based in China and no one of this services are working, but yeah this is not Denon issue.
Glad you're enjoying them :)
Returning to the Cue Point on the Prime Go is achieved by holding “Shift” and tapping the “Play/Pause” button as opposed to the “Cue” button. Thank me later. Great video by the way!
Yeah, weird!
Hi Phil, you said the jogwheels are fine but on the last Balcony Beats set I didn't see you really using them (?)
Is that because you had everything perfectly prepped in advance, and/or because everything was synced?
Just starting out after a couple of decades 'off' maybe I misunderstand just how much DJs use the new tech to make everything much simpler/smoother, but the first thing I want to do is get my beat matching back up to speed (with waveforms/BPM etc hidden) so jogs are very important to me. Cheers!
I use sync and don’t scratch so dont have much use for the jogs.
Hopefully they could add the shift+cue option in a software update. That would be great
Agreed :)
You mentioned this is not a good controller for beginners, which I am one. The reason I chose it was because I didn't need to use a laptop with it. At home in my home music studio, I use an external 27" monitor with my laptop because I'm almost blind, and though I can physically see the laptop screen, I can't use it "productively." I was hoping that the Prime Go with its 7" onboard display will be big enough. Once it arrives, the first order of business will be to give it the "vision" check. So I'm curious why you don't otherwise thinks it for me.
It is fine, just it is different than most devices, so may not be the obvious first choice for the typical beginner - which you're not! Give it a go. You may love it.
I'm not sure I follow why the shift+cue thing is needed. Not denying others might want it I just can't think of a time when I would ever need that feature. Just so I understand it fully; when I load a track I find the start of the track, set the cue then thats it, the track plays until the end. Maybe it's the sort of music I play but I rarely if ever need to set a cue somewhere else in a track on the fly.
No, simply a fast and easy way to return to the start of a track if it doesn't already have a cue point there. Standard behaviour on nearly all DJ gear.
Hey Phil! Thank you for making this video I just bought my prime go! What do you recommend to use for streaming to connect my iloud or the primego directly to my laptop? I have to get a capture card for go pro but I wonder if theres a product that I could use for both?
Great news! However I'm not sure what you're asking here Alana.
Use OBS. Route your video and audio into it. So yeah have your audio routed to your laptop, and connect your go pro to the video capture card (which is also connected to your laptop).
If you have any questions look up OBS and how to use it. It’s very simple. Or feel free to hmu.
Glad to have discovered this channel, just got my first numark controller. I'm however wondering why I can't seem to hear proper sound through my headphones when the controller is plugged into my laptop. The headphones are turned all the way to the max, but the music is still too faint. The speakers are fine though, but I do want to get the hang of cuing the next song through headphones Any suggestions?
Which Numark controller? Turn up the gain on the individual channels, don't crank your headphone output all the way up
@@digitaldjtips thanks for the response. It's the party mix. I should have noted that sometimes the sound comes through the earphones, but other times it is too faint with all the same exact settings of when it's working properly. I wonder if it is a hardware/software issue?
Could be the headphones? If you want come join our Global DJ Network and post a video and the community will probably be able to diagnose the issue: djtips.co/family
I bought the Prime Go and had it for about 2 weeks... It was a great unit BUT I exchanged it for a Prime 2 instead for 3 reasons
1.) There are no channel VU meters so you have to adjust volumes of each channel by ear.
2.) The post mix FX are garbage IMO, they muddy the sound and create these annoying boosts in volume, sometimes as high as 6DB.
3.) Cue monitoring only allows for previewing channel against the master - you cannot preview FX signals, you just have to wing it every time you use the FX.
Thanks for sharing Luke, the Prime 2 is a great choice
Thank you. Those are deal breakers for me especially live fx only with no preview
I'm surprised the effects on the Go are different than on the bigger models.
the load to cue prob is more of a personnel problem i think, i make cues and it solves the prob
Sure, still would like to see it
En español,,,,, ssludos, excelent videos
As Devon own newmark im sure it won't be long before there's a cheaper version
(Newmark Go)
It would make sense...
Hi phill, if I missed you saying it but can you plug into a MacBook to use the prime go for audio using OBS?
Yes
I had a laptop get blown off a table by a brisk wind at the winery where I DJ -good point at 27:35
Yikes! Not good
I JUST BOUGHT ONE YESTERDAY
Well done, enjoy it :)
On crates v. playlists - I find it useful to use a playlist if I know the order in which I plan on playing my tracks. If I'm a little less structured (like I almost always am) I'll put my music in a crate and change the sorting on the fly. I almost always sort it by BPM, but you could use key, time, et cetera. GLHF!
Thanks for sharing that Earnest
Can you please tell me laptop stand are you using, I will need one like that for my Push2 thanks an best, Chris
geni.us/Hm2vgMc :)
I live in a van and not DJ'd in years. I used to be a vinyl junkie. Never really got into CDJ's or digital. I liked the tactile aspect of vinyl. So, its an odd question maybe, but can you use the jog wheels like a platter to beatmatch or are they only able to scroll through as seen?
The hit play and auto sync bore me a little. Short attention span!
Yes, they work fine for manual beatmixing as you describe.
Hi guys. Is it possible batch analyze your tracks within the Prime Go, or has to be done individually?
It has to be done individually.
@@digitaldjtips got it, thanks
Do you know of anyone who opened up the prime go? I'd love to see the PCBs and signal paths. Finding Denon service manuals are way harder than for pioneer
Not seen anything like that
@@digitaldjtips Thanks!
For someone getting into djing and wanting to learn how to use controllers. Would you recommend this over the sc live 4?
Probably not, this is a bit more specialised.
hey Phil, what happens in this scenario?
You start recording your set from the menu (internal record, not external), playing music from SD or USB, but at some point you switch the source to say Beatport, you play a couple of tracks, and then you switch back to SD or USB and continue. Does the recording stop? Does it go mute for that part of the set?
It stops the recording, normally there will be a warning, or it won't let you load the track. Can't remember which.
@@digitaldjtips thank you for the reply :)
BPM adjust in case of bad BPM detection is highly needed in the grid edit mode !!
Definitely would be a plus
@@digitaldjtips Yes i think and among several improvments : Auto gain, various EQ profiles to fit with various style/genre of mixing, auto loop activation when entering a loop in a track and basics tracks/playlists editing. I'm a Traktor user so i feel a little bit frustrated with my Prime Go but also enthusiastic !!
It's a very different beast if you're used to using Traktor with a laptop but very cool and useful
How does the pitch control of engine os sound compared to Serato? Thanks
Really good
on the ddj 800 there is a IN and OUT button for the maual loop, where you can fine tune the loop. is there such a thing on the prime go.
No, you're stuck with auto loops I believe.
Should I get this version or wait for an updated one? When can we expect mk2 of Prime Go?
No word on that, but there are no real faults with this one, it's a great unit.
@@digitaldjtips if the size remained the same, what design changes would you like to see in MK2?
Maybe if you don't already have a temporary cue set?
Another question, I've to start from zero but my macbook pro has 11 years so cannot install recordbox or serato as all present controllers want the latest version of these software. So I'm in front of a choice, either buying a second hand computer and a dj controller or buying something all-in-one like the Denon Dj Prime Go. What would be your suggestion? Also keeping in mind that I want to make my setup last for as many years as possible wihtout having to update it in 2-3 years time. What do you think? Thank you SO MUCH!!!! Ohh by the way, I'm not interested in scratching but mainly want to focus on elettronic music....
Sounds like you will need a new computer soon anyway
@@digitaldjtips so I need a computer to manage all the music anyway? Eeven if I buy a standalone?
What do you mean no mids it’s has it on the controller
Can you use TD-3-BK analog bass line with this ? If not what’s best suited ?
They're both just audio products, so yes, you can use them together.
Love them small speakers wot was the price on them and where did you get them please david
Minirig, you can get them on Amazon sometimes.
@@digitaldjtips thanks
Oops I thought you were talking about the denon I wasn’t looking when you had the other controller in your hand
No worries :)
I think Keith was asking about the Black Friday sale. lol
I had a beer spilt all over my SX2 over the weekend. :sadface:
I'm torn between buying a new SX3 or whether to go laptop-less and get the Prime Go.
What would you recommend to that Phil? Is the feel good enough on this that it would be a worthy trade or should I stick to Serato and remain with what I'm already used to.
I like the look of the Prime Go for the portability, and the laptop-less design, but worry about it being too small.
The SX2 was an excellent bit of kit and I've enjoyed owning it.
I can't trial a Prime Go unit and I need to get back on some sort of controller ASAP as I have gigs coming up.
I would go for your first choice. Moving to a laptop free system is a big leap, and you would find the Prime Go to be far too small compared to your old one.
@@digitaldjtips thanks heaps. Appreciate the reply!
I just plonked down on the SX3 and I am claiming insurance on the other controller.
Cool :)
Hi phil
Thanks for watching :)
Would that little laptop stand work with the Numark Mixstream Pro? Thanks.
Not sure!
Load to first cue point and start of track error been updated now?
Not that we've noticed.
denon prime go have beatjump button ?
does it have a key lock function like other primes to lock vocals while changing tempo/speed .... ? Thanks
Yes it does
@@digitaldjtips thank you ❤️
That unit costs 1850$ where I live, And that is a big shame for such a small piece of kit…
Asking this in 2023, did Denon fix the Shift + Cue button issue in order to reset the track?
Don’t think so no it doesn’t do anything else so not sure why
Curious , have any of your issues been addressed with firmware updates ?
Some, yeah. they've improved the metering, for instance, and the software has come on a lot.
Hi Phil, i like the look of the prime go! I’m currently DJing with a Reloop Beatpad with an iPad Pro 12.9 which was fab! Until Djay took away the option to stream music via spotify, so i think this unit would be great as i could hook up my 6TB external hard drive with ALL my music on! But my question is, What’s the mic channel like? Ie does it sound good? As the mic channel on the Beatpad is RUBBISH! It sounds damn awful, theres no bass, mid, treble, and it sounds flat! so i have to run the output of the Beatpad into a small audio mixer that has a mic channel with mid, top and bass! I do a lot of mic work while DJing so it is crucial i have a great quality mic sound! Thanks
Mic channel is fine on the Denon, you can hear me using it on my Balcony Beats livestreams. That said there is no mic EQ, which is a big omission.
@@digitaldjtips thanks! Yes I heard you using the mic on the balcony on Sunday! & yes it sounds ok, my beatpad sounded fine also via my home sound system & while live streaming, but when I used it at my venue via the loud sound system it sounded awful! So maybe this will to? Yes the eq omission isn't great! I'll take this into account! Cheers & stay safe 👍
Can only try it and see I guess :)
Have they fix the problems you had with an firmware update or are the still there?
The 1.6 firmware is much better than the launch firmware.
Is the Roland DJ,707m a better controller in your professional opinion
They are totally different. One is a controller that needs a computer, the other is a complete DJ system
@@digitaldjtips yes but which one is better
@@loveispower2997 This has been answered above? You simply cannot say that one is "better" than the other as they are two COMPLETELY different things. I owned a Roland DJ707m for a couple of months and was extremely disappointed with the build quality of it. It feels cheap and nasty. The Denon on the other hand feels like a proper professional piece of kit. You really do need to ask yourself whether or not you need, or want to be using a laptop? If the answer is YES then you need to look elsewhere. if you don't then this unit definitely deserves consideration. There is however one MAJOR flaw in this unit, which I have outlined in my comment above. Hope this helps :)
@@njdenney69 you see that answer the question you just tell us which one is better that's all we wanted the answer ya dig ☝🏾💯
how do you find it analyzing tracks? do you have to go back and grid things often? i loved it in traktor but hate it in rekordbox
It is pretty good.
Have you mixed with this without using speakers to monitor?
Yes, it missed the Split Cue button but you can still achieve this using the headphones mix knob.
Hi ...can someone please advise how to get the Denon Go to connect to OBS ....i have a MCX8ooo and could connect usb to Pc and would pop up in OBS "audio in "connections......it does seem so simple with the go.....any Tips appreciated
Unfortunately the Prime GO doesn't work that way, so you'd need to use one of the audio outputs and an audio interface.
@@digitaldjtips Thanks for your reply....love yr channel
How did you make the cue and pause buttons flicker synchronously?
You can’t
Why?
How do u push the jog wheel if song needs to sped up or slowed down
Using the edge
Hi Phil, do you enjoy mixing on the prime go? Greetings from Chicago DJ SPINMASTER.
Yes, love it
How are Prime Go users dealing with having no channel VU meter? I'm very interested in a Prime Go but this feels like a huge dealbreaker.
It's fine in practice, leave the gains at 11 o'clock and only fine tweak if necessary.
The good thing is that Denon listens to their customers. DJ SPINMASTER
Bla bla
@@haardworker88 What's all that for?
Their forum is a great resource and they watch it closely
Sadly I completely disagree with this . . . see my comments above.
Does it have Bluetooth connectivity for speakers?
No, no DJ gear does because of the latency
How do upgrade hardware?
What do you mean?
Is it 19” rack mountable?
No
Can't you just use the cue button to get to the beginning of a track?
Only if you have a cue set there
@@digitaldjtips right. Doesn't it import cue points or create auto cue points?
Can't you click the beginning of the waveform like you did to go to the end? Looks like you answered your own question. lol
when they bring a standalone DJ unit out that will play video files, and has a HDMI output, then they will finally be in the 21st century, and then finally it might be able to take some glory from the laptop
Would be great to see!
I would be trading up for that
Has it ever froze on you or crashed?
No, never.
@@digitaldjtips right on...its my next purchase....thank you!
A big heads up, Despite all of the things Prime Go can do it can't separate the VU on the master meter for individual channels.
This thing is a piece of crap if you can't even level your music. Buy something else until Denon gets their act together.
People have been on the forum bitching about this since April. No fix in sight. Garbage waste of time Prime Go is.
Yet still we’ve been using it for many of our livestreams without issue.
@@digitaldjtips Good for you. Opinions man. Fun shit. You have yours and I have mine.
Fact is it doesn't seperate channel VU . For 1000 dollars that should probably be a thing. Double when you consider that the Numark Mix Stream Pro, A clearly not marketed at PRO DJ market has this feature and also uses the same Software as the 4,2, and Go.
Glad you love your Prime Go Digital DJ Tips, I think it sucks. Had I known this about this piece of gear ahead of time I never would have bought it.
Now between your channel, and every other GO video on You tube. Reviews on Guitar Center, ZZsounds, Sweetwater, and Musicians friend. I feel like I've done my part to inform people of this issue they clearly have no way or no will to fix.
Why not use a ddj 400 with a laptop and a little jbl speaker
For what purpose?
@@digitaldjtips djing on the go! Because it's all powered from the laptop
I guess if you used that setup the question would be "Why not use the Prime Go"? and get rid of the laptop completely (or have it only for streaming, lightening the load) :)
@@digitaldjtips yeah true 😂
My name is Octavio DJ
The only thing it seems to be missing is bluetooth.
Perhaps! Latency is the issue though with DJing
Lot of userproblems here, not the product :-)
bruh no link for the stand......come on man.
Sorry! They're incredibly easy to find on Amazon though
@@digitaldjtips ya but whats the link
only 1 usb? how does b2b's work on this?
It doesn't really but I don't think that's at the forefront for many manufacturers
@@digitaldjtips seems silly to have a perfect battery powered system setup for outdoor parties and have no ability for hand offs to other dj's, is there a way that a usb splitter would allow it to read 2 at once? has anyone tried using a splitter on decks? thanks for the help
also does the player stop working when you plug a in usb whilst playing off an sd card?
No, you need to tell it where you want to play from, plugging it in won't do anything until you go into the menu and do that.
No sampler??? Deal breaker 😤
Sadly no
@@digitaldjtips Lies! I'm getting it!! 🤪
@@djblendz7715 hahah
@@djblendz7715 Thinking of getting one as well. Do you think a mark 2 would be released soon?
@@dezelve hopefully
what a load of crap for the price! not a fan of tiny jog wheels or battery powered.. bet they dont sell many compared to the 1000 or similar priced controler. each to there own tho and all that! i got the flx6 recently and it does the job for me £600!
We disagree and find it an excellent device.