@@dzigayu4944 Nah he’s a cool as hell servant, great design, great villain in the story, fun attack animations too. This bonus boss fight with him is pretty boring and his NP animation is hilariously bad, but there’s definitely plenty more good than bad with him. Wouldn’t say they dropped the ball, it’s just the classic FGO execution could’ve been better, tale as old as time even for FGO at its best.
You have to look at the perspective for the final boss' identity and intentions for the "boring" fight. Pretenders are pretty easy to fight against, so if he's in other classes it's a different story. *OC2 spoilers in case you haven't play it or didn't read the story* . . . . . . . . . . . Caligrosto was basically being "inserted" into the protag's Wastehole (the pit where the owner's negative emotions or elements was being thrown into) by Douman so that he can grow these negative emotions until they overflow, and take over protag's mentality if needed (since Dantes said he can't burn them all in time anymore). This boss is basically an amalgam of what protag faced during the journey (Fantasy trees, Zeus, Fluffy Boi and ORT, among others), and without the protag's mana support the fight should have been like that in the first battle by the Avengers alone. It's just our protag goes into his/her mentality to support his Avengers so to have a chance to fight. Also, we can't say for sure if Caligrosto's really dead as he mentioned he got Elements like UOM.
The presentation to this looks cool but it's missing some oomfp. Like those pillars in the background should be spiraling all over the place, and the Count's face should totally be moving too. Idk it looks underwhelming as hell.
This man just booped JAlter! He’s a brave one. The Dantes2 fight felt like the obvious real final boss here. Cag was a bonus one of sorts, and his follow up fight to this is literally a victory lap. It’s basically a slightly less hard Lostbelt 4 finale. With Dantes being about Arjuna Alter level and Cagliostro tree here being a slightly easier version of Ash and Tree. OC2 was pretty fun overall! Defs a step in the right direction after OC1, and if we have to deal with ‘em anyway, they may as well be fun. OC1 probably had the better gameplay though, and I wish Theodoric/Wild Hunt had been an actual boss fight instead of whatever gimmick stuff they had going on.
I have to agree with you Green, this 'final boss' seems to be rather underwhelming. We didn't even get to kill it on our own. That being said I kinda like Cagliostro's Servant design. Not this one, but the playable one.
He's being treated as even worse as Douman (he borrowed Douman's skillcrafts), so it's quite fitting for him being easy in-game as even Douman slapped him. In lore however......
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 I don't have him so I can't read his profiles, but IIRC he got some talent (including partial immortality), was one of the arch-enemy of Dantes and got defeated by him back in the PHH. As an apostle of Foreign God he seems not really better than Douman, needing to use/borrow Douman's tricks here and there, but he got unknown number of backup bodies from his words, and the fact that he's so close to break the protag's mentality from the Wastehole still makes him formidable, and can handily defeat the assembled Avengers if not for the protag's intervention.
Its funny, looking at the LB6&7 and Ordeal Call bosses they actually seem easier than some of the earlier bosses Also Pretender being one of teh easiest classes to beat over due to our main support units being cavalry classes is funny
I wouldn't call LB6 easy due to Cernunnos being an absolute nightmare of a boss. LB7 has the dreaded Daybit's Angels fight in addition to Camazotz and ORT, and as for OC1 I'd say Durga (NOT Kali) is about as hard as it gets.
are you referring to how the final boss is weaker (gameplay wise) than the previous one in the very same chapter? like how oberon was weaker than cernunnos by a lot or how grand ort was weaker than regular ort or how kali was weaker than archer durga? or this guy being weaker than dantes?
If you're talking "final" final boss fights then yeah, I agree. - Tiamat was easier than either Ereshkigal or Quetzalcoatl in Babylonia - Human Goetia was easier than his Beast I version - The tree fights were easier than the Grand Battles in their respective Lostbelts - Oberon was easier than Cernunnos LB7 I cannot attest to yet since NA has not gotten there. But Tezcatlipoca seems tame compared to Daybit's Angels or even the ORT Raid.
@@angelcarrasco7801Don't worry, April Fools this year had a much scarier representation of all your fears - 6 Star Elizabeth Balthory with all the powers of U-Olga and ORT.
How did we go backwards in fgo? From the amazing boss battles of lb 5. Tesla fest sets then the Cloud bosses and O.U.A reform to.....this? After lb 5. It should be no holds bar and the developers should be set to make challenges
Tbf it's kinda hard to surpass a nerfed ORT in terms of pure epicness. Ordeal Call is literally one massive therapy session for Chaldea and Fujimaru before we head back to our original base for the true final battle of the game. Its boss fights being a step down from the Lostbelts is fine, especially given what we had to go through in LB6 and LB7 particularly.
To be fair, this isn't really meant to be a final boss. In terms of both story and complexity, the Dantes fight was definitely intended to be the real final boss of the OC: this is just an epilogue to clean up some loose ends. Which isn't even the first time the game did this: remember the Ash+Tree fight in LB4 when the climax boss was clearly Arjuna Alter? How Zeus was clearly the climax of LB5 only to then have Caenis, Kirschtaria and Golden Caenis? The gauntlet of calamities in LB6 followed by that easy fight against Oberon?
@@owo4288 Without your (the protag's) intervention your Avengers will all be dead. In fact, Douman's fight was even easier than this one. He basically got charmed to no end by Kama.
They just rushed the last boss basically just two health bars and the last one is just a free win im sad cause this boss fight is basically the accumulation of the MC traumas so im disappointed that they barely did anything to this other than giving him 4 health bars which with just some big Hp and barely any gimmicks since this boss fight is like an disappointment and does not feel like an final boss rather it feels like an side boss fight where you just break few bars to win so disappointed really wish they didnt slack of with this like its the FINAL BOSS of OC 2
Naw her new animations are cool, and there’s a lot of flare in them too! Like one of her Arts animations being her old Ruler self NP, or the skills having flames and Fafnir in them. Sure they’re probably not at the level some of the best servants in the golden days of 2019-2021 era had, but even so. She’s easily as good if not better than modern servants/5 stars these days. Plus that NP animation is too good! Green man doesn’t ever fully skip it in the video, that’s how you know.
@@TheCoolguymanly Overall yeah, they are way less stiff and they kept her iconic laugh (thank goodness), so it's just cause I'm not used to it for now. The extra attack and NP don't feel as brutal, even if they do look a lot better. I'll get used to them though 🥲
@@crystalkirby I love the sword flash and sound effects on the extra attack, and the NP is just the coolest, especially with the music and the cut in that actually reflects whatever ascension sprite you’re using! Plus how the flames on the screen get cut down the center as her cut in appears, as if she’s slashed them away, is such a cool little trick to reference her old animation (and arcade animation) where she points the sword forward to fire the flames. Go watch some videos showcasing the new animations, I think you’ll definitely appreciate ‘em over the very very old animations she used to have haha
I thunk its cuz lots of people REALLY liked the extra class servants and due to them basically pulling a Part 2 Prologue again with the OC prologue again
Individually the ideas for the chapters are fine and the stories/characters in them are good! I think Id here is a step up from Paper Moon and I really enjoyed it! But yeah as said, it’s because they’re delaying the Part 2 finale. They feel like random unnecessary filler arcs that are killing the pacing right as LB7 had ramped it up so much.
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Took forever to make a video for this boss because it's boring... Honestly the lamest final boss I can think of.
They really dropped the ball with Caligrosto after hyping him up for over a Year, really disappointing.
@@dzigayu4944 Nah he’s a cool as hell servant, great design, great villain in the story, fun attack animations too. This bonus boss fight with him is pretty boring and his NP animation is hilariously bad, but there’s definitely plenty more good than bad with him. Wouldn’t say they dropped the ball, it’s just the classic FGO execution could’ve been better, tale as old as time even for FGO at its best.
You have to look at the perspective for the final boss' identity and intentions for the "boring" fight. Pretenders are pretty easy to fight against, so if he's in other classes it's a different story.
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Caligrosto was basically being "inserted" into the protag's Wastehole (the pit where the owner's negative emotions or elements was being thrown into) by Douman so that he can grow these negative emotions until they overflow, and take over protag's mentality if needed (since Dantes said he can't burn them all in time anymore). This boss is basically an amalgam of what protag faced during the journey (Fantasy trees, Zeus, Fluffy Boi and ORT, among others), and without the protag's mana support the fight should have been like that in the first battle by the Avengers alone. It's just our protag goes into his/her mentality to support his Avengers so to have a chance to fight.
Also, we can't say for sure if Caligrosto's really dead as he mentioned he got Elements like UOM.
2 bars? That's it?! The frontline didn't even die...
I know right
The presentation to this looks cool but it's missing some oomfp. Like those pillars in the background should be spiraling all over the place, and the Count's face should totally be moving too. Idk it looks underwhelming as hell.
This man just booped JAlter! He’s a brave one.
The Dantes2 fight felt like the obvious real final boss here. Cag was a bonus one of sorts, and his follow up fight to this is literally a victory lap.
It’s basically a slightly less hard Lostbelt 4 finale. With Dantes being about Arjuna Alter level and Cagliostro tree here being a slightly easier version of Ash and Tree.
OC2 was pretty fun overall! Defs a step in the right direction after OC1, and if we have to deal with ‘em anyway, they may as well be fun. OC1 probably had the better gameplay though, and I wish Theodoric/Wild Hunt had been an actual boss fight instead of whatever gimmick stuff they had going on.
WDYM you didn't use ort 's theme when Cag used his NP? D:
Shit D:
I have to agree with you Green, this 'final boss' seems to be rather underwhelming. We didn't even get to kill it on our own.
That being said I kinda like Cagliostro's Servant design. Not this one, but the playable one.
His suit is top tier drip
He's being treated as even worse as Douman (he borrowed Douman's skillcrafts), so it's quite fitting for him being easy in-game as even Douman slapped him. In lore however......
@@briangen0 Please enlighten me how strong he is in lore?
@@rejoicingfakepriest201 I don't have him so I can't read his profiles, but IIRC he got some talent (including partial immortality), was one of the arch-enemy of Dantes and got defeated by him back in the PHH.
As an apostle of Foreign God he seems not really better than Douman, needing to use/borrow Douman's tricks here and there, but he got unknown number of backup bodies from his words, and the fact that he's so close to break the protag's mentality from the Wastehole still makes him formidable, and can handily defeat the assembled Avengers if not for the protag's intervention.
@@briangen0 That sounds like a real trouble, I wonder why he isn't 5 star.
I kinda like his design.
Never expected you to use pgr music. Do you play pgr too by any chance?
what a handsome looking pancake ingredient
Heh. Jalter's like "Seriously?!"
Final boss represents how O.C is basically is in my eyes at the moment. O.C needs to step it up.
Its funny, looking at the LB6&7 and Ordeal Call bosses they actually seem easier than some of the earlier bosses
Also Pretender being one of teh easiest classes to beat over due to our main support units being cavalry classes is funny
The Edmond fight was good (with low stars at least)
I wouldn't call LB6 easy due to Cernunnos being an absolute nightmare of a boss. LB7 has the dreaded Daybit's Angels fight in addition to Camazotz and ORT, and as for OC1 I'd say Durga (NOT Kali) is about as hard as it gets.
LB6 is definitely no step down in boss fight difficulty lol
are you referring to how the final boss is weaker (gameplay wise) than the previous one in the very same chapter?
like how oberon was weaker than cernunnos by a lot
or how grand ort was weaker than regular ort
or how kali was weaker than archer durga?
or this guy being weaker than dantes?
I wouldn't even call this is a boss fight tbh, especially this supposed to be endgame stuff
Been saying this for 7 years
Fgo's last boss fights tend to be the easiest compared to mid bosses
If you're talking "final" final boss fights then yeah, I agree.
- Tiamat was easier than either Ereshkigal or Quetzalcoatl in Babylonia
- Human Goetia was easier than his Beast I version
- The tree fights were easier than the Grand Battles in their respective Lostbelts
- Oberon was easier than Cernunnos
LB7 I cannot attest to yet since NA has not gotten there. But Tezcatlipoca seems tame compared to Daybit's Angels or even the ORT Raid.
@@cameraredeye3115Golden Caenis were much easier than Zete or Demeter too.
@@cameraredeye3115 The Pillar with Ash are more easy than Solo Karna vs Arjura boss.
Baltheus theme epic!!
Missiles for all!
Is that the face of Zeus?
Yes. This boss is in your head. Basically all your worst nightmares and then Cag pilots it.
@@HonakoGreenfor a boss that’s supposed to be a recreation of all your worst enemies he’s surprisingly lame
@@angelcarrasco7801Don't worry, April Fools this year had a much scarier representation of all your fears - 6 Star Elizabeth Balthory with all the powers of U-Olga and ORT.
How did we go backwards in fgo? From the amazing boss battles of lb 5. Tesla fest sets then the Cloud bosses and O.U.A reform to.....this?
After lb 5. It should be no holds bar and the developers should be set to make challenges
Tbf it's kinda hard to surpass a nerfed ORT in terms of pure epicness.
Ordeal Call is literally one massive therapy session for Chaldea and Fujimaru before we head back to our original base for the true final battle of the game. Its boss fights being a step down from the Lostbelts is fine, especially given what we had to go through in LB6 and LB7 particularly.
To be fair, this isn't really meant to be a final boss. In terms of both story and complexity, the Dantes fight was definitely intended to be the real final boss of the OC: this is just an epilogue to clean up some loose ends.
Which isn't even the first time the game did this: remember the Ash+Tree fight in LB4 when the climax boss was clearly Arjuna Alter? How Zeus was clearly the climax of LB5 only to then have Caenis, Kirschtaria and Golden Caenis? The gauntlet of calamities in LB6 followed by that easy fight against Oberon?
@@eeriecode1628At least all of them beside Wodime (which is just piss easy and waste your time) are fun fight. I can't say the same for this one.
You have to actually read the story to understand. In game terms he's easy, lore-wise he's not.
@@owo4288 Without your (the protag's) intervention your Avengers will all be dead.
In fact, Douman's fight was even easier than this one. He basically got charmed to no end by Kama.
Hans carried.
Can you solo this using cu?
Yes
At least I won't have to tryhard this like Cern or some New York CQs.
They just rushed the last boss basically just two health bars and the last one is just a free win im sad cause this boss fight is basically the accumulation of the MC traumas so im disappointed that they barely did anything to this other than giving him 4 health bars which with just some big Hp and barely any gimmicks since this boss fight is like an disappointment and does not feel like an final boss rather it feels like an side boss fight where you just break few bars to win so disappointed really wish they didnt slack of with this like its the FINAL BOSS of OC 2
I thoughts it was just second phase... (well technically it is) but yeah... it was boring
You know... I can't say I like Jalter's new animations 😭
They are pretty stiff. But still an upgrade.
You’re weird buddy, YOU’RE WEIRD!
Naw her new animations are cool, and there’s a lot of flare in them too! Like one of her Arts animations being her old Ruler self NP, or the skills having flames and Fafnir in them.
Sure they’re probably not at the level some of the best servants in the golden days of 2019-2021 era had, but even so. She’s easily as good if not better than modern servants/5 stars these days.
Plus that NP animation is too good! Green man doesn’t ever fully skip it in the video, that’s how you know.
@@TheCoolguymanly Overall yeah, they are way less stiff and they kept her iconic laugh (thank goodness), so it's just cause I'm not used to it for now. The extra attack and NP don't feel as brutal, even if they do look a lot better. I'll get used to them though 🥲
@@crystalkirby I love the sword flash and sound effects on the extra attack, and the NP is just the coolest, especially with the music and the cut in that actually reflects whatever ascension sprite you’re using! Plus how the flames on the screen get cut down the center as her cut in appears, as if she’s slashed them away, is such a cool little trick to reference her old animation (and arcade animation) where she points the sword forward to fire the flames. Go watch some videos showcasing the new animations, I think you’ll definitely appreciate ‘em over the very very old animations she used to have haha
Is he divine? If so nobu him.
What’s with the ordeal call hate
I thunk its cuz lots of people REALLY liked the extra class servants and due to them basically pulling a Part 2 Prologue again with the OC prologue again
It's a filler arc right before the final. It's like doing EoR after Babylonia and Before Solomon.
As for this boss it's just garbage gameplay wise.
No idea. This chapter was PEAK
Individually the ideas for the chapters are fine and the stories/characters in them are good! I think Id here is a step up from Paper Moon and I really enjoyed it!
But yeah as said, it’s because they’re delaying the Part 2 finale. They feel like random unnecessary filler arcs that are killing the pacing right as LB7 had ramped it up so much.