Lost On Everest - The Search For Mallory & Irvine. 5/5

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  • On June 8, 1924, George Mallory and Andrew Irvine left their tent high up on the slopes of Mount Everest and climbed into history. They were seen at 12:50 pm just 800 feet from the summit and "going strong for the top". Within minutes, Mallory and Irvine had disappeared in a snowstorm and were never seen alive again.

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  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    That they even made it that far with such sparse material, wardrobe, etc is a testament to courage and determination in untold quantity. RIP, gentlemen.

  • @DrkEnigma
    @DrkEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    I am so glad as an American...that the American climbers paid so much respect to this man ...he deserved the dignity they showed him

    • @ralphbooger4756
      @ralphbooger4756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      they did not show him any dignity or respect!
      they mutilated and looted his body, stepping on him with spiked climbing shoes, hitting him with the ice axe while digging him out to peel him of the rocks while swearing like a bunch of drunken sailors!
      they ripped up his clothing, cut pieces of his body for dna sampling and falsely claimed they had the family`s permission to do so...
      then they buried him and said some prayers for the camera, only to return two weeks later to dig him up again to check for loot they might have missed the first time, then they partially buried him again and left!

    • @DrkEnigma
      @DrkEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ralphbooger4756 These are some wild claims.....you have "evidence " to prove this ? (doubtful)

    • @ralphbooger4756
      @ralphbooger4756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@DrkEnigma
      well, i guess that would depend on you, i mean nothing proves anything to anyone if they do not want to accept the evidence.
      how hard do you want it not to be true...
      pretty hard i would think judging by the (doubtful) remark and the "evidence" in quotations...
      the whole process of digging him up was filmed, but only small portions of this video has been released... the evidence is mostly the word of someone who claims to have seen the full video and their comments on what they saw (wade davis).
      personally i accept it, it makes sense and it is supported by bits and pieces of information here and there coming from the people that found/mutilated/looted/buried/dug up/looted again/partially reburied the body themselves...
      excuses can be made, it is hard to think straight in this environment, mistakes happen, as far as mutilation goes i doubt they intentionally stepped on him, but peeling him of the ground to climb underneath him (as they themselves describe it) is more questionable, cutting pieces off his body for dna testing then lying about being given permission from the family to do so is definitively a bad one for me!
      i understand their excitement in actually finding mallory, but i do not think the search party should have done much to him, he was half buried and frozen in to the rocky grounds, these guys did not know what they were doing, and what they did was selfish and impulsive... a second expedition should have been planned to examine him!
      and by that i do not mean for the same people to go back two weeks later to dig him up again because they could not stop thinking about what loot they might have missed, and even though, as they claimed there was not enough rocks to fully cover him when they reburied him, and it bothered them to leave him partially buried, i find this to be very disrespectful!
      but what do you think... would some of these "wild claims" be excusable?
      are they still respectful if the intentions were good?
      were the intentions good?
      if you had a missing family member, would you like these guys to search for them?
      and if so, would you be ok with them taking it upon themselves to also examine/loot and bury the body?
      and if so, would you be ok with them taking it upon themselves to also exhume, re-examine/loot, but leaving the body only partially buried this time...?

    • @DrkEnigma
      @DrkEnigma 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@ralphbooger4756 there is obviously a difference of opinion on the subject of desecration....but it seems to me if what you did happen..we the public would heard about it......

    • @ralphbooger4756
      @ralphbooger4756 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@DrkEnigma
      well... it has been spoken publicly about by wade davis(who has seen the video) and in smaller parts here and there by the ones that found the body themselves!
      and others...
      and here i am speaking "publicly" about it to you... can you not hear me?
      am i not part of "we the public"?
      are you not part of "we the public"?
      is this not public?
      when you first hear about it, the number one reason against it being true is that you have not heard about it...?
      now... the ones that did this are the same ones that filmed it, and also the same ones that decided to cut it out of the video they released. is it then so strange that so many of "we the public" never heard about it?
      on a more serious note, if you want to hear more about it (publicly)... 🤣
      i can recommend the youtube channel of Michael Tracy
      he has done some very thorough research, and found some interesting information on Mallory and Irvine in general, not just about how his body was treated...

  • @roblockhart8410
    @roblockhart8410 4 ปีที่แล้ว +75

    I think they made it! What an incredible expedition to find Mallory. Lots of people frowned upon this expedition but I bet they still watched it lol. I don’t know how you could love Everest and not find this fascinating. I can’t understand how this video only has 250k views when millions of people watch a video of someone dumping a bucket of ice on their head. Crazy world we live in.

    • @Ricklifts
      @Ricklifts 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Those views are mostly kids and teens who prefer simple content, they will grow up just like we did. But I agree very underrated subject matter. Cheers

  • @dougieranger
    @dougieranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Rest in peace George, huge respect.

  • @beatle1956
    @beatle1956 3 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    You can see the emotions on their faces while going threw his belongings. Very moving and respectful.

    • @pbysome
      @pbysome 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Through my friend.

    • @berryreading4809
      @berryreading4809 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      The Truth of this expedition is not what one could say is exactly respectful... Lots of important information was unknown by many members of this team and no real professional care was taken with the body treatment or possessions... I'm glad they found him, I just wish the examination would've been conducted a little differently.

    • @freddyfriend5462
      @freddyfriend5462 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      it is what the police does to every body.

    • @dianebays5484
      @dianebays5484 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Even surreal.

    • @parkinlox9049
      @parkinlox9049 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@berryreading4809 good lord, get OVER it!!!! you are absurd.

  • @djjester6058
    @djjester6058 10 ปีที่แล้ว +82

    R.I.P. Mallory & Irvine, two of our countries greatest heroes, we love you both and thank you for trying.

    • @espaciofantazma901
      @espaciofantazma901 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Climbing a mountain is more heroic than the millions of your countrymen that died in multiple world wars? Fuck outa here dude.

    • @thebillgrundyshow
      @thebillgrundyshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@espaciofantazma901 what's your problem with him personally recognising there attempts?

    • @thebillgrundyshow
      @thebillgrundyshow 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Brady Phillips yeah your right..good point

    • @eetCC
      @eetCC 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      @@espaciofantazma901 On that note Mallory was a Lieutenant during WWI and fought at the Somme. I guess I can best reply to you and make a point with this quote:
      "The price of life is death"
      "For George Mallory as for all of his generation, death was but 'a frail barrier that men crossed, smiling and gallant, every day'. As climbers they accepted a degree of risk unimaginable before the war. What mattered now was how one lived, and the moments of being alive."

    • @rustlemyjimmys
      @rustlemyjimmys 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eetCC yep the first couple of British expeditions were guys fresh out of the war some of those on the second and third expedition weren't able to join the first as the were still recovering from war wounds.

  • @alansmith6376
    @alansmith6376 4 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    It’s weird, I’ve been climbing most of my life but I have zero desire to summit Everest. But I would love the opportunity to go and search for Irvine and of course pay my respects to Mallory himself.

    • @Alex10DelPiero29
      @Alex10DelPiero29 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      watch Michael Tracy's videos. In one of them, a man lying in a sleeping bag just below the ice axe is clearly visibile.

  • @bessiemann7468
    @bessiemann7468 3 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I am glad they found Mallory I just hope Irvine is found one day

  • @82566
    @82566 4 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    Wow this was SUCH a good documentary, my heart stopped when they read that name tag ...time just stops u right there and u get so in tune with that energy the resignation from his final resting place and then looking up from where he possibly fell wow what an experience to have & standing right next to him too !!! learning about this man until his story becomes so personable u can actually feel those moments of determination the fear ,possible sadness he may have felt as he was falling down trying to catch grip of whatever he could ...can't even begin to say how this documentary moved me .Thank you SO much for sharing this expedition and experience .I hope one day his friend can be found as well . Safe travels to all .

    • @raffaellaborghi6730
      @raffaellaborghi6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      yeah it's incredible and the emotions when they look at the personal effects and the telegram generates feelings of sweetness derivated from death it's a fondamental moment

    • @TheILUIZ
      @TheILUIZ 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Bonitas palabras.

  • @samuelidredd8921
    @samuelidredd8921 3 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    I like the expedition leaders style when he is Explaining George Mallory's personal effects and their potential significance in the mystery, humble and respectful he was, Jah Rastafari.

  • @ginnymiller2448
    @ginnymiller2448 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I've watched this documentary before but it's been years. It's mind-boggling how intact the old papers were. They still looked brand new after all that time had passed. I want to believe that George Mallory was determined, skilled, and savage enough that he really did make it to the top 🕊

  • @green823jade
    @green823jade ปีที่แล้ว +5

    They had the support of the family and it was done with great respect for the climber. The modern day climbers admired Mallory and I don’t think that he would have wanted it any other way than to be found seventy five years later by friends from a different era

  • @ItayLast
    @ItayLast 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    I really love the story and hope they did manage to climb to the top, for me at least it feels very inspiring👍

  • @mortalclown3812
    @mortalclown3812 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you for this upload. Extraordinary tale.

  • @antwan37
    @antwan37 4 ปีที่แล้ว +31

    This docu is a total gem. I must have watched it 10+ times by now, and still, every omce in a while, here I am, ready for another go.

    • @dougieranger
      @dougieranger 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Same here Antonio.

    • @cejka30
      @cejka30 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Lol, me too

  • @griffith500tvr
    @griffith500tvr ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I always thought that they went via the Zig-zag above the Norton couloir, difficult to say if at least Mallory had a chance getting to the summit with Irvine waiting underneath the zig-zag, probably meaning that they both had no chance to come down alive. We are no way nearer in understanding what happened.... They certainly did not try the second step...

  • @raffaellaborghi6730
    @raffaellaborghi6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    what a moment for them finding George Mallory's body pratically intact and perfectly preserved with letters personal effect still on the body !!!!

  • @paulbergkamp2181
    @paulbergkamp2181 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    rip both of you, history has taught us so many lessons

  • @annaudovenko7156
    @annaudovenko7156 8 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Mallory and Irvine were extremely courageous. It is just incredible. Dave Hanh looks like a chief forensic scientist. Thanks for sharing the movie.

    • @raffaellaborghi6730
      @raffaellaborghi6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      it' so moving when Dave has to explain Mallory's belongings to his entire group

  • @Babs.vte.90
    @Babs.vte.90 9 ปีที่แล้ว +179

    I hope Irvine is found someday...

    • @Pintkonan
      @Pintkonan 5 ปีที่แล้ว +41

      and with the photo of summiting in the camera (:

    • @Josh-hr5mc
      @Josh-hr5mc 4 ปีที่แล้ว +38

      The camera would be the greatest Everest find to date

    • @annekedebruyn7797
      @annekedebruyn7797 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      @@Heidi_Bradshaw Under right conditions, film can last for very long.
      However, it depends where the body is.
      If it's constantly freezing, it can probably still be recovered.
      If there has been warmer years and ice melted over the years, most likely completely gone by now.

    • @terrybardy2848
      @terrybardy2848 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Me too.

    • @kevinfan726
      @kevinfan726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@Heidi_Bradshaw KODAK (whose camera and film were used) says that they think the film would be salvagable if found.

  • @stevenedwards2162
    @stevenedwards2162 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Make it or not to get to the first or second step with the equipment they had and on there own no sherpas is amazing in its self 👏👏

  • @SolarSailor1967
    @SolarSailor1967 4 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Jake Norton gave a highly informative and detailed presentation about this find. It was shown locally in Colorado Springs but I haven't been able to find it since first seeing it. I wish he would post it online.

  • @lifesahobby
    @lifesahobby 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Greatest video of the last 30 years

  • @HarryFlashmanVC
    @HarryFlashmanVC 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    So, George had lived through 3 years of the hell of the Western Front. He had a VERY different perspective on death to a 21st C person.

  • @sanddonkey8738
    @sanddonkey8738 6 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Smythe 1933 said he saw a body in a gully. Mallory was not found in a gully. Did he find Irving? Mallory was not found in a place where an accident would happen as Frank wrote to Norton. I think he was looking at a spot higher up around where the ice axe was found. According to the Chinese witness Irving didn t fall but froze in a gully, with his leader below him on the scree slope.

  • @robertalpy9422
    @robertalpy9422 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Mallory said he would turn around at 4 no matter what. He had forgotten his headlamp and so had Irvine. Mallory fell and his fall pulled Irvine off the mountain he must have fallen past Mallory since he was viciously yanked off the mountain I assume. Or else he was caught up there in the dark alone and fell later. Neither made it.

  • @melmack2003
    @melmack2003 7 ปีที่แล้ว +129

    It must have been very emotional going through Mallory's personal effects....like Mallory himself speaking to them. The photo is missing....they made it to the summit. Thank you for a great documentary.

    • @bearbaler1456
      @bearbaler1456 4 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      I totally agree with you,..It's too unlikely that the letter in his pocket, with the photo, could have become accidentally separated. Someday somebody is going to find Irvine and that camera. ;-)

    • @alterego3525
      @alterego3525 4 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      They made it.

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or of course, the story of a photo was a lie because absence of evidence suddenly becomes evidence and the wife & daughter wanted Mallory to have made it.

    • @melmack2003
      @melmack2003 3 ปีที่แล้ว +15

      @@Edax_Royeaux It was common practice for climbers to leave a photo . [No need to be mean-spirited....people are just trying to hopefully solve the mystery.]

    • @Edax_Royeaux
      @Edax_Royeaux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@melmack2003 No need to assume two failed climbers were wildly successful either.

  • @blueleadguitar
    @blueleadguitar 12 ปีที่แล้ว +17

    Amazing and fantastic documentary, thanks for uploading. I respect anyone who climbs Everest, whether they succeed or not.

  • @sudhirbisht5577
    @sudhirbisht5577 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    On similar terrain:
    At 2:39 modern climbers walking so slow.
    At 2:45,2:46 historic climbers walking so quick.
    Have noticed this in few other videos as well.
    They were definitely special.

    • @Dr.everything4307
      @Dr.everything4307 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Videos taken back then were sped up due to low frame rates...you can see it in silent movies e.g. Charlie Chaplin

    • @ryanm2628
      @ryanm2628 ปีที่แล้ว

      Most deaths occur on the way down, so it's probably better to pace yourself on the way up if you can

  • @normanmendonca2834
    @normanmendonca2834 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Well done lads finding the body. All the best from Australia

  • @Sicofonia
    @Sicofonia 13 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for sharing this documentary.

  • @bubblinbrownsugar616
    @bubblinbrownsugar616 8 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Every time I come across this story, all I think is Mallory, Irvine, and anyone trying to climb this mountain or any mountains are crazy as hell. Yet, I can't get enough of this story and give credit of respect to where the credit of respect is due. Wholeheartedly, I believe we were never meant to climb mountains or leave the planet; it's obvious in our actions and reactions when lack of oxygen is present. However despite challenges humans have found a way and to see those like Mallory, Irvine, the dudes in this documentary and anyone else that's done something the average person hasn't and or can't do....Respect.

    • @1138thz
      @1138thz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      +bubblinbrownsugar616 I disagree the urge to explore is at the core of human behavior and that urge brings out the best in the species.

    • @robribant6716
      @robribant6716 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +1138thz He didn't say that. He believes we were not Meant to do those things, didn't dispute man's compunction to explore above and beyond.

    • @1138thz
      @1138thz 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      rob ribant"we were never meant to climb mountains or leave the planet;"
      I disagreed with that comment ..any problem with that sport?

    • @WG-tt6hk
      @WG-tt6hk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      If we were never meant to climb mountains or leave the planet, then we were never meant to fly or travel under the sea. "To go where no one has gone before" is part of humanity's nature. There will always be those who look at the distant horizons and wonder what lies beyond. It is the "adventure" of life that gives it it's value.

    • @Thomcrib
      @Thomcrib 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mallory himself answered this. When asked 'why climb the mountain' he famously replied 'because it's there'

  • @fahrenheit45one
    @fahrenheit45one 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I enjoyed that. Thank you for sharing.

  • @ThePianistWithNoHand
    @ThePianistWithNoHand 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It actually made me cry a little. Great documentary. I think they both made it.

  • @discipljc
    @discipljc 11 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Great documentary. Hope they find Irvine some day. Don't want to take away form the achievement here but to me though, successful summit of a peak means you make it down alive. So to me Hilary and Tenzing will always be the first successful summit team regardless if Mallory made it to the summit or not. Either way it was an amazing achievement in any year based on what equipment and clothing they had..

    • @rowdyyates4273
      @rowdyyates4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      If they made it to the summit which i am certain they did, then they would have been the first to get to the top its a simple as that, a fact!

    • @craighudd1428
      @craighudd1428 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      I hope they made it, however what your stating is you're opinion not fact.

  • @DaoNguyen-nx5fq
    @DaoNguyen-nx5fq 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    In addition to the determination of a serious Sportman, Mallory had survivor's Guilt. He blamed himself for many deaths in his party in an earlier climb when an avalanche took them. And if you'd take this in context of a WWI when many Brit climbers died in the war, without a chance to accomplish feats like this. So it was more than a Sportsman's strong will and determination, he had an intangible component in his Drive to summit, to do what others didn't have a chance to do !!!
    I believe they "believed" that they did summit Mt. Everest.
    The only remaining argument against their actual summit is whether they know that they had arrived in a snowstorm ????? when it was blinding white out. how do you really know where you are, when you can't see in the blinding snow and wicked wind ?

  • @whistlewing
    @whistlewing 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Totally Amazing that a lost body was found on the slopes of Everest!

  • @Billieboy43
    @Billieboy43 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    this is an fantastic documentary....thx for this....

  • @wandermethis7097
    @wandermethis7097 9 ปีที่แล้ว +59

    They say that more climbers perish coming down after the summit, than those going up....

    • @fragelicious
      @fragelicious 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Wander MeThis 80 percent die on the decent.

    • @benjaminr8229
      @benjaminr8229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      This is why even if they did summit (they didn’t) it doesn’t matter. Sir Edmund Hillary and Tenzing Norgay SURVIVED the descent,

    • @WG-tt6hk
      @WG-tt6hk 5 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      @@benjaminr8229 How can you be certain that "they didn't" ?

    • @PaPaPOVEY
      @PaPaPOVEY 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Almost all death happen on decent.

    • @dunruden9720
      @dunruden9720 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@fragelicious descent

  • @sabrinakincaid5073
    @sabrinakincaid5073 8 ปีที่แล้ว +30

    Mallory wrote a letter to his wife, Ruth, which she did receive sometime after his death saying that if he had it to do over again he wish he had chosen to spend his life with her instead of trying to climb Everest because he loved her so much. Sadly, she received word after she got the letter that he was presumed dead. No, I have not done anything great or daring in my life but I do love to read books and watch shows about people who do but I wouldn't want to do it. I had rather spend time with the people and animals I love than loose my life on some mountain. I think at that last moment of life when a person is dying they think what a waste instead of what a ride. I don't think he ever made it to the top of the mountain but we will never know for sure.

    • @wyatt2447
      @wyatt2447 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I respectfully disagree . Mallory was Mallory . Very determined and he knew that regardless this was probably his last climb .More incentive to succeed .

  • @keepgrindingup7661
    @keepgrindingup7661 10 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is amazing it's just unbelievable... love the respect

  • @richardsmart3728
    @richardsmart3728 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    As I said, they were living the dream - that they died is pretty sad, but they went where no-one else had gone, onto the top of a mountain five miles high, when it seemed impossible and no-one had ever done it before. You have to respect their courage and determination, and the will which drove them to the very top of the world.

    • @fragelicious
      @fragelicious 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Richard Smart No doubt about that.

    • @glensmall9194
      @glensmall9194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Read Into The Silence by Wade Davis.

  • @acideye010
    @acideye010 12 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    many thanks brilliant documentary

  • @Bella.216
    @Bella.216 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    George Mallory didn't have a camera on him. Think about it, they didn't think about pictures back then. Even the Chinese didn't take pic of the summit. Mallory had Jon Nole on the video camera. He told Jon to look out for them either crossing the rock band or going up the pyramid at 8am. Now Andrew might had his camera. Now if you can believe Summerville had 2 cameras on him or had extra film up on the North Col you'd see that it sounds a little ridiculous. Summerville came back with his camera. Mallory camera was in base camp. This is why we needed these games to search for summit rock's in his pockets. Mallory and Irvine are my heros and always will be

  • @Jolinator
    @Jolinator 13 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    great upload thanks alot

  • @tinahachey454
    @tinahachey454 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    That was so interesting thank you for telling there story 👍

  • @raffaellaborghi6730
    @raffaellaborghi6730 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    immagine the most beautiful moment in your life that is reaching the summit and you come to find the body of this mitological figure !!!!! what a shock !!!!

  • @morphybum
    @morphybum 12 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank you for including the credits - a very good film. Anyone interested in this should read 'Into the Silence' by Wade Davis, one of the books of the year.

  • @Rusmiester
    @Rusmiester 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

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  • @jerryday2851
    @jerryday2851 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I think they did summit , But I don't know why everyone is saying Mallory fell first and they search in the same place for Irvine. Maybe Irvine fell from higher up they can't find his body because they are looking in the wrong place. May never know.

  • @curlymii
    @curlymii 12 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes this was a fascinating documentary i remember when this was first aired i believe on good old BBC2. This is the final frontier inwhich man can venture on his feet, i would love to do it, but now i like to sit in awe and celebrate those who have achieved there mountain, but we have different mountains/challenges to climb which are perilous our own lives itself that we face day to day. However great video thanks for uploading it

  • @mikeh2825
    @mikeh2825 11 ปีที่แล้ว +96

    Mallory took a photo of his wife with him on this climb, telling her he would leave it on the summit if he made it. The photo was in his inside pocket but was not on the body when it was found. Would he have left it on the mountain for any other reason ? I suspect we will never know but it is suggestive that he made it.

    • @apikecalledmike
      @apikecalledmike 4 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Or he left it at the highest point he reached. Or forgot to take it with him. Or it blew out of his pocket. Or was on him and kept secret...who know? I hope he made it. Unfortunately all the evidence that's ever been found has been below the second step. The only evidence that he might have made it is 1. No photo on him 2. Assuming Odell definitely saw them at the second step or higher (but if so how did they get back down?) 3. Found not wearing goggles (another pair may have fallen off or removed during snowstorm).
      Against summiting are the fact that nothing's been found from their climb above the second step, Odell might very well have seen them at the first step at 1250pm, Irvine was inexperienced, the weather turned extremely unfavorable at 2pm, their oxygen systems were shizen and they were physically spent.
      I think they were probably delayed on the summit attempt, frozen boots/water, oxygen not working etc and delayed by Irvines inexperience, made it to the first step, got smashed by the storm and fell descending.
      That said, I have another theory that they made it.

    • @honeybabies4476
      @honeybabies4476 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      He probably forget it with the camera, LOL.

    • @Steve52344
      @Steve52344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      @@apikecalledmike Well, no photo on him almost surely means he took it out of his pocket, and for a reason, and we KNOW he intended to place it on the summit. So, it's not a stretch to think he did that. There's no other probable explanation for the photo to not have been on him. Blowing out of his pocket is most unlikely, as is him forgetting to bring it along or it being found on him and kept secret.
      There truly is a good chance that one or both did summit. The damned tragedy is it can't be proven, and Mallory may have pondered that as he lay dying.
      Finding the camera might solve the mystery but could turn out to be an inconclusive disappointment. Having said all this, I'd like to think they made it, as most of us do. But hard as I try, I can't convince myself.
      RIP you great adventurers.

    • @dannykirton6445
      @dannykirton6445 3 ปีที่แล้ว +14

      @@Steve52344 What if he laid there dying after the fall ? surely the last thing he'd want to look at was the picture of his wife, it could have blown out of his dead hand.

    • @Steve52344
      @Steve52344 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@dannykirton6445 Yes...if he was set on seeing it and physically able to remove it and if there was enough light to see it. That's a lot of supposition. But the possibility of summiting is more substantial, since that was his goal. And finding the camera, which is unlikely, may or may not be conclusive.

  • @ripleymaxlady
    @ripleymaxlady 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Watching video make me think those men were brave to go up there. Wow. Since they found Mallory’s body, it would be nice to use drones in several areas and see if they can find Irvine’s body??

  • @JuliusCaesar888
    @JuliusCaesar888 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great documentary

  • @kasialeparska2480
    @kasialeparska2480 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow!!! Incredible! ❤️

  • @prchristman
    @prchristman 9 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Everest fascinated my late father. He didn't live to know of the discovery of Mallory's body. Whether Mallory and Irvine made it is still an unanswered question. I believe my father would still hold today that they did not succeed. He did say it would have been "suicidal" for the pair to summit and then descend at night. The pair of goggles found in Mallory's pocket probably wouldn't have been enough to make him believe they tried it. On the other hand, I don't think the danger would have dissuaded Mallory, close as he was to such a goal. Who can be sure? In the end, I believe that more likely than not they did reach the summit, ill advised as the try would have been.

    • @braciole7667
      @braciole7667 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ever hear of "summit fever"?

    • @wheelie63
      @wheelie63 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      'xactly.

  • @addictive...3669
    @addictive...3669 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Huge respect to malloy and irvine
    And respect to my dream-mt everest

  • @geoffcrumblin7505
    @geoffcrumblin7505 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    fascinating yarn; can't help but wonder of the likely outcome had Finch been chosen instead of the boy.

  • @peruskomarinko
    @peruskomarinko 12 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks to great story

  • @SvenTviking
    @SvenTviking 13 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Of course! His brother was Air marshal Trafford Leigh Mallory, famous WW2 RAF commander.

    • @MrBiggoolie
      @MrBiggoolie 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yep, the guy who did the dirty on Hugh Dowding

    • @johncampbell2979
      @johncampbell2979 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Yes also the advocate of the bigwig tactics along with another dubious sort Douglas Bader it was a total joke by the time All the planes were in formation the first arrived had beak off to refull that is the Toffocrace for you

  • @ovenking4481
    @ovenking4481 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This was amazing! There is a bit of information that is missing from this that I read. Mallory took a picture of his wife up with him. He was to leave it at the top in her honour. The photo was not found on his person......so he made it up. Left the photo and fell on his way back. From now on at pub quizzes I will obstinately maintain Mallory was first up!

  • @wadewilson4152
    @wadewilson4152 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    As a respect, i believe they made it into the summit.

  • @ripp846
    @ripp846 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Wish they would've found the camera. I have a feeling they summited, and Irvine got in trouble on the descent.

    • @WhiteGuysMadder
      @WhiteGuysMadder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Chinese have it.

    • @lauratroxel24
      @lauratroxel24 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree that Irvine is the one who got into trouble. I bet he's in the basin with Mallory or he fell off the mountain. There have been many expeditions since 99 looking for Andrew but no luck yet.

    • @WhiteGuysMadder
      @WhiteGuysMadder 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lauratroxel24 he was found by the Chinese.

  • @tommypetraglia4688
    @tommypetraglia4688 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    1924 climbing tech and skills vs 2013 climbing tech and skills.
    Even today's climbers say the North Slope Route along the Yellow Band is not a gimme and we know for sure the weather turned bad that afternoon. On top of that it took skills and tech another 24 years to reach the summit.
    In my mind they might have been overmatched for the last 2,000 feet - 600 meters.
    The picture and camera? Used to mark the highest ascent to date

  • @amielg7059
    @amielg7059 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe I missed something but I don't hear / read anybody exploring the option that they were actually descending when Mallory fell, but after giving up, not after reaching the summit.

  • @Tanana01
    @Tanana01 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Thank you for sharing, I'm sure both made it to the summit.
    Maybe not successful because they didn't made it down ... but for me they were the first on the summit.

  • @calinapetroaie
    @calinapetroaie 13 ปีที่แล้ว

    incredible...

  • @goofydog2
    @goofydog2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    The climber @ 5:21 has climbed Everest in as close as possible conditions/equipment to what was available in Mallory's climb in 1924. If he thinks the difficulty of the climb would have been too great for Mallory to have made it, I believe him.

    • @lesterclaypool1
      @lesterclaypool1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      goofydog2 As much as the romantic in me would like to think that Mallory's wife's picture is somewhere under the snow of the summit the picture that comes to mind for me is that of a man taking that picture out, after making concession that he can go no further, and lovingly leaving it as high as he got.

    • @goofydog2
      @goofydog2 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** Heart wrenching whichever way it happened, for sure! Hard to imagine just how difficult it must have been for Malory to accept his eternal fate - life with Ruth forever extinguished. Perhaps the photo was kept in a pouch of some kind that was eventually weathered and blown away by the howling, fierce winds of Everest. We'll never know and that's the sad fact.

    • @fragelicious
      @fragelicious 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +goofydog2 Climbers don't get any better or smarter than Conrad Anker.

  • @GATTY22
    @GATTY22 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Este es un hermoso documental, lo habia visto en esos años cuando se entrenó

  • @markwilson2699
    @markwilson2699 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    I keep getting drawn to this BBC production about this expedition to locate the whereabouts of Mallory & Irvine. It is such a mystery, and still almost 92 years later, even with the location & finding of Mallory, no-one can say 100% that either of them made it to the summit. My question really was at first why didn't the group look under Mallory while they were describing what they saw that day? But after reading all the comments above, I found one person say that they looked under Mallory to confirm that Irvine wasn't underneath him. Also, all the paperwork and other belongings they were looking at in the tent at the end of the film, must of been found under Mallory in his pockets, and so they DID check to see that there was NO camera on him. The climbing group must of decided not to include the filming of this part out of respect, and instead showed only the rock grave they made for Mallory. Finding Irvine would add more credence to solving this mystery as would most of all, finding the camera and developing the negative(s). I still feel someday, one or the other or both will be located to finally say YES or no to them reaching the summit of Mt. Everest. I hope they did make it!!

    • @dennisjensen1717
      @dennisjensen1717 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      the did look under him the just cut it out of the vid

    • @glensmall9194
      @glensmall9194 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Reads Into The Silence by Wade Davis.

  • @motocrossboy204
    @motocrossboy204 12 ปีที่แล้ว

    Awesome story

  • @kevinfan726
    @kevinfan726 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    they were looking for Sandy Irvine and found George Mallory. This is because a 1975 Chinese climber saw a body that might have been Irvine. His description of "on his side, like he was sleeping" didn't match Mallory's remains. I think Irvine is still there but since Wang perished the next day (after he saw the body), he couldn't tell anyone where he'd seen it in any detail. This video explained that Mallory most likely fell, leaving Irvine alone. If so, perhaps Irvine succombed to the mountain as so many have, by lying down and dying.

  • @burymedeep-be7dm
    @burymedeep-be7dm 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of the best documentaries ever.

  • @richsamuel6722
    @richsamuel6722 6 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Makes sense for Irvine to have the camera in his pocket. He probably took the picture of Mallory & put it in his pocket. Then Mallory didn’t have the picture of his wife in his pocket. They made it!

    • @glensmall9194
      @glensmall9194 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Read Into The Silence by Wade Davis.

    • @goognamgoognw6637
      @goognamgoognw6637 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      He may have left the picture as high as he could go without reaching the summit. The camera could answer that.

    • @richardhelliwell1210
      @richardhelliwell1210 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@goognamgoognw6637 Yes I thought that too. He knew at 38 he would never come back to Everest as a climber and so left it as high as he could. His last letter to her (Ruth) shows he wasn't a madman who wanted to summit at all costs.

    • @goognamgoognw6637
      @goognamgoognw6637 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@richardhelliwell1210 another possible scenario is that Mallory died first and irvine of course took the camera from him. That would also indicate that Mallory died of exposure not a fall, as recovering the camera would have been more difficult for Irvine. Whether that happened on the ascend or descend, is hard to answer, but given that neither of them survived may indicate they both died of exposure. And that would mean that Irvine body would be found at lower altitude. I don't see Irvine would want to continue solo upward if the other died of exposure, as he probably was also seriously affected. My last guess is that Irvine finding himself in dire situation trying to descend may have gambled to take a faster route down, and could not meet the technical difficulties. An area that even today nobody would take, which is where his body is and the camera.

    • @richsamuel6722
      @richsamuel6722 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@richardhelliwell1210 naa, that’s a puss move we would pull off nowadays. It then, too much pride & not too shame to say you didn’t make it. That pic is on top of that mountain if it ain’t in his pocket

  • @politicalbandit7043
    @politicalbandit7043 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Mallory and Irvine made it no doubt !

    • @rowdyyates4273
      @rowdyyates4273 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Yes and they fell trying to get down before the night came!!

    • @a_diamond
      @a_diamond 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I believe they did, but it's hardly "without a doubt".

    • @a_diamond
      @a_diamond 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @Jo Bloggs I hear different accounts of how closely they actually looked though..
      As a casually interested person, I am not sure what is true there or not.
      I kind of wish they'd find Irvine as well.. the picture of the wife, and the camera (any of those really)..
      All the same, thanks for the response.. :)

  • @mloney77
    @mloney77 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    will more attempts be made to find Irvine?

  • @ballaservices9275
    @ballaservices9275 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Let's hope Irvine is found, and he has a camera on him. I still don't think they made it myself, but it was a damn fine effort by very brave men.
    RIP

  • @um02122
    @um02122 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The legend has it Irvine summitted, made it down alive and lived with the Sherpas, his sons and daughters are blonde Sherpas with blue eyes.

    • @kevinfan726
      @kevinfan726 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      what? that's wild.

  • @lifesahobby
    @lifesahobby ปีที่แล้ว

    The best film on the internet

  • @savage1469
    @savage1469 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This blows my mind

  • @vfrexup
    @vfrexup 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think they made it - amazing !

  • @ThePierre58
    @ThePierre58 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brother Trafford was famous in his own right. Royal Air Force Fighter Command boss in the Battle of Britain. What a great documentary. Found this after reading Paths of Glory by Jeffery Archer.

    • @paulharper6464
      @paulharper6464 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That’s correct. And strangely he also died in the mountains although in the Alps in a plane crash in 1944

  • @conchhouse13
    @conchhouse13 10 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    I don't care what anyone says. Mallory and Irvine were the first!

    • @ricimuoo
      @ricimuoo 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I subscribe!

    • @mazzolaro1
      @mazzolaro1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      Angel Pinto people back in the old british empire were tough and hard as nails compared to the ones today who lets be fair live in a nanny society and rely mostly on tech rather than spirit willpower and skill.....so yes mallery and irvine did make it up top, and those fellas who rely on all those oxigen tanks and high tech ain't fit to lace mallery's boots.

    • @benjaminr8229
      @benjaminr8229 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      They didn’t summit

    • @danradu231
      @danradu231 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Uh....Mallory used oxygen.

    • @Smokey66s
      @Smokey66s 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don’t care what anyone says, the earth is flat!

  • @georgesaylor3130
    @georgesaylor3130 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    After much reading and watching hours of video, I believe they made the summit and perished on the decent just as hundreds who followed died on the way down. But as Hillery would later say "It's not a success unless you get back down". Thinking they made the successful first summit and died doing so is like a sport team claiming to have won a game because they were leading at half time. They are the very essences of the human spirit. "To Go Where No One Has Gone Before". Rodenberry.

  • @akmalhussain2248
    @akmalhussain2248 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Moving documentary that celebrates the triumph of the human spirit signified by the fierce determination in Mallory’s last moments. Why didn’t the search team look for summit stones in Mallory’s pockets which he said he would get ?
    Professor Akmal Hussain

  • @mloney77
    @mloney77 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    fascinating

  • @LiberTBo
    @LiberTBo 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    Why were five videos deleted?

  • @philming1863
    @philming1863 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    but what of his oxygen kit? did he summit dispose of his oxygen packjust belowthesummit then decide to descend via the Nodrton couloir and traverse the north face back to his high campavoiding a descent of the second step, as Norton had done a week before.

  • @jeffwarren6906
    @jeffwarren6906 19 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    I know it has been said before , but , I will say again , I believe he summitted because he was George Mallory . Hopefully one day his small camera will be found with the negatives not damaged beyond development .. Rest In Peace George Mallory & Sandy Irvine

  • @TravisLoneWolfWalsh
    @TravisLoneWolfWalsh 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Where are you Irvine?

  • @synapse131
    @synapse131 9 ปีที่แล้ว +23

    Mallory certainly had a suitably punk rock hair do for the job.

    • @allybally0021
      @allybally0021 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      LOL....very punk rock. On that basis alone I think he made it.

    • @DrPommels
      @DrPommels 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      I don't know if Mallory made it, but Joe Strummer would have......

  • @maizhiheimei9080
    @maizhiheimei9080 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Why did they stop searching? Irvine might be close and the snow were thin,...but they must have their reasons.... respect to all up there

  • @danischeel4846
    @danischeel4846 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    They did it!!

  • @prafulchonkar2212
    @prafulchonkar2212 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I salute both of them... irrespective of their attempt was successful or not, but when we will traced Irvine's body, picture will be more cleared.... hopefully, both of them have stood successfully on roof of the earth then...

  • @ronaldforrest9969
    @ronaldforrest9969 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It's weird how body's and objects stay so preserved in an environment like everest some people think its not good to Disturbed the dead on everest but you have to think that if they did summit they would want everyone to know that at least i would

  • @Snipe4261
    @Snipe4261 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So the takeaway for me is that they had the will and they had the opportunity but the sheer difficulty of the task and the techniques and equipment they were using would have been working against them and while there is evidence that they were descending at the time of Mallory's fall, and there is some tenuous circumstantial evidence that they may have made the summit, there is no solid evidence. That doesn't detract from their accomplishments of course.

  • @Smokey66s
    @Smokey66s 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Sherpaless in the yellow band, very difficult.

  • @korbyn1112
    @korbyn1112 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    But we're is irvine?

  • @hervejupille8735
    @hervejupille8735 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    RESPECT MR GEORGE MALLORY 🙏 REST IN PEACE BOSS

  • @williamanderson5437
    @williamanderson5437 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Evidence that says - YES they Both made it, Mallory did NOT have his wife's photo (which he had said he would leave on the summit), or a Union Jack Flag (same as), conclusion can only be that BOTH items were left on the summit. Brave Men, Real Heroes, R/I.P.

    • @carld587
      @carld587 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Mallorys boots were missing, he must of left them on the summit too!