I guess Ivan mod is great. I mean, haters May be hating you but... I mean, if you can Do a nice looking Trick nobody cares about the pen exept selfish better people or WORSE spinners
@MINGTHEBING I can understand if people want to stop spinning pencils but metallic comssa and bictory are just fine for learning other tricks. I spun a bictory for 10 months or so and look how I turned out. I always recommend staying with beginner mods for as long as possible. Waterfall mod is awesome but I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner. For me, I'd give it a 10/10. Not too heavy (for me), good length, balanced, feels nice.
i can really recommend the Waterfall Mods, as soon as you've learned the basics. It can perform nearly all tricks while staying realtively light (they still have awesome momentum when you push the grips up all the way to the end of the tip). If you are looking for a pen to learn tricks from shadow to spreads, buy a Waterfall
@KTrinh93 I can do the sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos. I use an RSVP MX and own a Dr. KT that I never use. Could you give me some advice? Please respond!
I customized my own flying panda but i still dont know if i should use , i know thumb around harmonic , sonic , twisted sonic , infinity , figure 8 (every finger) double charge , neo sonic ,
so ive already started on an ivan mod, and i was thinking of changing to an mx. I already know all the basics and a lot more tricks. Would it be okay if i used a waterfall as well or should i still use the mx for a while
I know some basic ones, Thumb around, thumb around reverse, harmonic, charge, sonic, single double and triple infinity and the finger pass. No combos yet...
Can you please give me a set of 10 videos or so of the first tricks you think I should learn? I've learned the thumb around and the "middle finger around"?. I can execute both pretty much 19/20 times with ease. Just wanna broaden my skill set and not sure what would be best to learn next. Thanks!
i can do sonics, twisted sonics, infinities, thumbarounds, fingerless thumbarounds, and shadows. I've only been using bictories. i was going to buy a pen online, but i'm not sure which to get
@KTrinh93 When do you think I should learn power tricks? Trick database: sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos.
@KTrinh93 you said earlier youre gonna make a tut on finger stretching and warm up or something like that.. so can you make that too? btw the tretching - does it really help? i mean does it have any effect on the nerve endings? (which if stretched or lengthened or something can possibly have an effect on the ammount of coordination and control on the fingers) and the last thumb bone - is it possible to make it bend more by stretching it? hope im not overloading you w/questions or something haha
I wanted to know am I still considered a beginner if i know the thumbaround, sonic, twisted sonic, shadow, reverse sonic, finger less thumbaround reverse, devil sonic, demons devil sonic, devils around, demon sonic, charge, index around, and a twisted sonic bust.
I know the sonic, twisted sonic, devil's sonic, palmspin, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround, reverse thumbaround, warped sonic, charge, infinity, fake double, shadow, sonic rise, fingerpass, and maybe a few others I missed. I think I'm an intermediate spinner and I'm using an RSVP MX^2. I would like to know what level I really am and what mod I should be using. Please respond!
Mk... I understand but what tricks should I learn now? I really like your tutorial videos, they teach me alot. I have a RSVP MX that I made should I keep using that until I feel ready to move on?
oh some good tricks to search are the charge the reverse thumb around the sonic those those are the basics to get into all the sonic and charge and busts
Hi, quick question ktrinh93. i started penspinning 8 years ago and stopped after like a year of spinning. every now and then i would just subconsciously pick up a pen and execute some combos with it because im bored. i can execute combos fluidly with ease and recently begun having an interest in penspinning again. when i come back to pen spinning i saw amazing tricks like hai tuas being invented and am trying to learn those. i consider myself as an advanced penspinner although my combos are kind of oldschool but should i use my bustercyl to learn the hai tua? because u said that it is recommended for advanced spinners to use the buster but u also mentioned that busters are better for EXECUTING a trick and not learning a trick so the information is somewhat conflicting for me.
Andre Boulay I think its better to just use the buster after you have learned the trick because the reason why he doesnt want people to learn tricks with heavy pens is so that they can develop their style more because they used lighter pens first
Question here. I spin with heavy marching drumsticks as a side effect of being in the school band. I am a high level spinner in terms of skill and dexterity. Since my fingers are used to that level of weight and handle that efficiently with no pain, could I start on a heavy weighted pen?
+P. Watts I think you are in a much better position to do this than most people and would likely pick up pen spinning easily, but with no guarantees whatsoever. The difference in size and weights might really throw you. They still recommend you learn on lighter pens so that you are not stuck only being able to use the heavy as hell ones for tricks. The beginner techniques are easier to get down with weight, but you don't learn it properly that way - its like cheating yourself. It makes everything else harder later on. That and the dexterity / strength issue are the main concerns. You've got those down pat. You can try a heavy pen, but I would spend some time on a light on first, just to not mess up your fundamentals. I'm super new to this, so my advice is based only on what I have read elsewhere.
So I was wondering I have like mod that mostly looks like a buster and almost build the same way accpect I used dr. Grip tips and grips and I used white Bic caps with a slice of aBicbody to hold the cap on the supertip accept the commas back would that be considered a subbed buster Or a personal mod?
So I have a question. I got a comssa about 4 months ago. I learned infinity and thumb around with it. I have been spinning daily (combined, probably 1-1.5 hrs a day.) I just didn't like the feel of how light it was. So, not having watched this video, I got a buster about a month and a half ago. Now i can do all the build tricks (Charge, Sonic, Shadow, Thumbaround, and others like twisted sonic) What should I do now? Stick with the buster, go down to a waterfall or go down to a beginner mod?
I have a question. I know the charge, sonic, thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, figure 8(all fingers), infinity, neosonic, half tap reverse,fl ta charge rev, and palm around. I've been using a BICtory and a pencil with erasers with eraser caps on either end. Should I move on to a metallic comssa and RSVP-MX? Thanks if you answered.
I just use an unsharpened pencil with a little bubble wrap superglued to both sides. Which gives the tips some weight. The pencil is super light and so are the tips, but the tips weight slightly heavier, so it makes it a lot easier for me to learn/execute tricks. It's perfect for a novice.
ok ive mastered the fundamentals on my msxa. and im branching out to new tricks like warped sonic, twisted sonic busts and etc, would i be a intermediate, or still considered a beginner.
Thanks, at the beginning i wanted to get buster cyl but that pen is for pros, i will get this comssa and after a while i will get buster cyl too, thanks...
ktrinh i have a question i wan to know wither i am inter or beginner tricks i can "EXECUTE" -Infinity -Charge -Twisted Sonic -Thumbaround -Fingerless Thumbaround -Thumbaround To Air -Fingerpass -Fingerpass Rev
I know the : fingerpasses , charges, TAs, sonics , twisted sonics, neosonic, infinity ( normal, double and triple), tw sonic bust ,shadow, devils shadow , demons shadow and around. What mod should I get?
defidently stay away from buster cyl at beginner/intermediate learned the heard way. also highly reccomend a flying pabda for an intermediate spinner :)
I'm a beginner (well not a real starter, I can do charges, sonic, thumb around, double sonics, wiper, double infinity (kind of) and some basic combinations of them. I been doing charges, double sonics, thumb arounds and infinity when I'm bored in class for about 3 years) and I'm using a personal BICtory mod that weights around 12g. Would that be fine for me? Is it too heavy for a beginner? I heard the beginners might rely on the momentum that the heavy weight brings and lose the basic/fundamental control. I'm not very good with my pinky finger yet
I'm an Intermediate, but i have VERY good style/control, and very strong fingers, and i can use a buster cal without my hands getting tiered. Just saying, as KTrinh93 said, these limits aren't set in stone
I'm a beginner pen spinner. I can only do the thumb around and reverse thumb around, sonic, twisted sonic, a clunky charge and trying shadow now. Know what I'm spinning? A pendolsa spinstick. Talk about rushing through lol... These are like the premium ones you can get because they are really heavy and long but they look so cool... so I'm definitely picking the wrong choice of pen lol. I've got a ZG v7 and a ZG v11 on the way tho. Don't know if they'll fit my beginner learning...
@eggsta626 So that way as you improve into heavier mods it's easier to always go back and spin lighter mods, whereas its harder when the opposite is applied. When starting with a heavier mod it tends to destroy your style since you're still building up the foundation of your pen spinning and also possibly ruin your fingers.
@Ktrinh93 so ive been spinning for about 1.5yrs. but i havent been doing combos. ive jus been doing the different sonics(in each finger slot), tumbarounds(reverse, extended), and infinity. i havent really attempted to put them together but i can do them. what pen would u recommend on learning how to put combos together?
My best is V15 it's so good for intermediate or even advanced pen spinners it's so balanca in the middle and It's easy to find even on ebay or amazon ect. BTW V15 is weight about 23 grams
YES. this is the pen that i will be getting and MANY people have said "this is the best beginner pen out there" and simmilar from that. so yes this pen is light for beginners and will build your skills very well!
Alright, so I'm just curious. As an intermediate/high-intermediate balisong flipper, I have at least minimal dexterity and familiarity with using my fingers for tricks, and flip a Bali weighing in at 5.28 oz. I'm used to the weight and can flip that comfortably for longer periods at a time, but I'm still new to penspinning. I know you said it's not set in stone, but would you still say it's fine for me to use a higher weight pen, considering my background with balisongs?
+xXMoonbaneXx The only reason it's bad for beginners to spin heavy pens is because they have a lot of momentum. The momentum will generally help you execute tricks and carry your movements. However, this makes beginners fingers sort of lazy and if they tried to spin a bictory, then they would see that the pen would move just barely. Pens with smaller barrels will make you exaggerate your finger motions more, thus training your control. Even if you have the hand muscles you would not have the control.
If you really want to, I suggest you start off with a waterfall. I have been penspinning for a year now and I still find spinning pencils and my bictory enjoyable ( somehow ). It's a bonus if you can make your combos look fluent starting with a heavy pen. I'd say if you already have spun a pencil, go for it!
@yinyangpenspinner Well the one would have AirFit grips and the other would have Sailor Gel grips =P I prefer AirFit because they feel nicer to me but it's personal preference.
Thanks. That's what I've been using. I need some metal tips. I'm gunna try putting some screws in the plastic tips I have. But idk. I have no money or else I would buy a RSVP from one of my Asian friends.
@KTrinh93 pls reply.... i have been spinning around for like 11months and i have been using pens which are heavy like the buster cyl because they are long unlike the RSVP which is short . so when i watched this video, i tried spinning using the light pens again and it was very hard because my fingers grew accustomed to the heavy pens. so is it ok if i just stick on spinning long and heavy pens like pencil mods and buster?
I have an Ivan giotto mod, and I am a beginner. What should I do? I didn't watch your video before buying. Suggest me the time of my each session so that I can progress easier cause I cant buy another mod.
+Square Pyramid I think heavier pens spin better for everyone, but if you get used to the weight, your fundamentals are not as good and you are much more limited in pen selection. If you learn on lighter pens you can always use a heavier one later which is required for certain tricks. Starting out heavy means you can only use those few heavy pens in the future and you might be at a disadvantage skill wise, from what I understand.
What would yo say defines an intermediate spinner? I have been spinning for 2 months now and have been spinning with an Rsvp Mx for about a month (bictory before). In addition, I know all fundamentals, but not the reverses and some of the more advanced moves to go along with it, also I do simple combos, so my question is, do you believe that I can move on to a waterfall mod?
Like I mentioned in the video, there is no definition of an intermediate spinner. It's a really complex balance of a lot of different factors. Since everyone progresses at different rates and have different linkages/smoothness/etc, it's impossible to give a clean-cut definition of that. I would stick with the MX if I were you.
Also if you could tell me what I should learn next. I deleted my old comment to update it so here is my trick database: sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos.
snap........i've been spinning for about 4.5 months now, and im spinning with a buster. but i can haitua and twisted sonic double bust. so.... should i get a lighter mod?
@drjohn123451 Look for my very first tutorials and follow the order of those more or less. Keep using the MX for the next few months regardless of how prepared you feel to move on. A lot of beginners tend to overestimate their abilities. Plus an MX will develop your style and control a lot better than a buster.
Personally, I started with a simple McDonalds straw with some small pieces of colored tape on the ends to help me track the number of revolutions when I was first learning how to do a thumb around.
@ktrinh93 i just got the RSVP MX, and it has a great feel in my hands. however, i want to write with it too, is there anyway to replace the ink tube?? if so... how????
And I was wondering if I could get your opinion as to how the new mod may differ from the pirat and/or commsa waterfall mod. I understand that you don't have the pen so you obviously don't know, but since you are a lot more experienced I figured you would have some general insight for this choice. Also, I know that the original and commsa waterfall mods have a slight issue with teflon tape - does the supertip body of the buster waterfall address this issue?
Cuz one pen may contain parts from like 4 different pens. For example, it may use a grip from one pen, caps from another, body from another, and so on. Most of the time, when you get a grip off of a certain pen, the only good thing about that pen is the grip and you really cant use the rest of the pen. Same with the other parts of a mod. So really you have to pay for the pens used to make the mod, and a small extra fee for it to be premade.
im new to this and i have for mods 2 in begginer 1 in intermediate and 1 in advance ( i saw this vid once and then bought them by looks then saw it again and saw my mistake) but does it matter if i have these if i learn my tricks with all of them?
I started in April of 2012, and I've been spinning actively ever since. Would you consider me an intermediate? I know enough tricks to make my own 10-20 second comboes. Oh, and is a G3 MX good for Intermediates?
started with a mech pencil then got a buster cyl didnt like it 2 well after i got a dr.kt shadow. now i mainly spen a minwoo mod or vgg still workin on mult bust and flush sonic i guezz i just hit intermediate caing now just 7 modz
Nice video KTrinh, i agree with everything u have said, only one question, u said we need about a year to touch the mods like buster or vics mod, lol, why??? I agree this is professional pen spinners mods, however 1 year is too much and some people may find it easier to learn new tricks with heavier pen, even u said in ur video that it was difficult for u to learn TA with light pen!
To be honest im a begginer and im going to order a flying panda because ijust love it for some magical reason. But since you said to stay in your range i will order a metalic mod also and train with that and see how i like the flying panda. But if i dont like the flying panda i will wait till i get better. So, thank uKtrinh93
I'm a beginner, and I prefer heavier mods. When I use a light mod (bictory, mx, etc.) it was actually harder for me to learn tricks. But when a friend of mine gave me his ZG Buster, I liked it a lot more, I learned the tricks that I couldn't learn on the bictory. So I guess it kind of depends on the spinner on which pen they like to spin with :)
im not sure if he mentioned it in the vid, and im not bashing your pen choice, but generally, heavier pens ARE easier to learn tricks. but a lighter pen, though its harder to learn and execute tricks on, is better for your style of pen spinning becaues it helps your control, making you a better spinner in the long run.
I've started to spin lighter pens now. I stopped spinning heavier pens and moved to a bictory, but I like it a little heave, not too much, not too little (:
I've been spinning for 3 months and apparently i must be good because i know hitua, triple ta, etc so i'm not sure what i should be spinning. I'm using a custom sc mod with signo tips and a super tip body. My friend (same level of spinner) keeps using his buster and double tipped waterfall comssa and says my mod is light. so what should i spin?
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I just use a chopstick cos i'm asian
Sim Tan
Bad luck;
Never spin a chopstick. It's bad luck if you do.
Sim Tan lol
Andy Zhao I spin it and it flew straight to my enemy and he just fell down how
hemurust
Lol same always disturbing everyone at the table
Andy Zhao r/wooosh
I have a buster, I play piano, my fingers are ripped.
*proceeds to flex finger.*
Petra Quartz same lol
Not same=( Because I use Zhigao mods...
@@ryanramiterre gross
Ryan Ramiterre, why?
*Intense Fingering*
all I use is an unsharpened pencil and two erasers on the end.
eh,close enough right?
haha! this worked...
id tell beginners to use a bictory first
Nah I'd say mx or comssa
Or a pencil with eraser on both sides or a mx I start with a pencil then a mx
MilesT
Great choice! Very cheap and useable
I guess Ivan mod is great. I mean, haters May be hating you but... I mean, if you can Do a nice looking Trick nobody cares about the pen exept selfish better people or WORSE spinners
Flower mods are great
Well I use a metal rod to spin I guess I started with a very heavy pen
I learned all my fundamentals (charge sonic and thumbaround all reverse too ) with a chopstick
you forgot the finger pass
Asian 100
Luke Montgomery u got tips on charge?? When I try I can only do sonic ._.
how did you do that? chopstick is too light
@@zoowiee2851 dont use ur other finger, control it and just let the sonic continue without using ur index
@MINGTHEBING I can understand if people want to stop spinning pencils but metallic comssa and bictory are just fine for learning other tricks. I spun a bictory for 10 months or so and look how I turned out. I always recommend staying with beginner mods for as long as possible. Waterfall mod is awesome but I wouldn't recommend it for a beginner. For me, I'd give it a 10/10. Not too heavy (for me), good length, balanced, feels nice.
Video descriptions are wonderful.
Well a normal pen with double cap each side is perfect enough 👌.
Wish i saw this vid before I started penspinning. I used a buster between beginner and intermediate. Great vid by the way
i can really recommend the Waterfall Mods, as soon as you've learned the basics. It can perform nearly all tricks while staying realtively light (they still have awesome momentum when you push the grips up all the way to the end of the tip). If you are looking for a pen to learn tricks from shadow to spreads, buy a Waterfall
@KTrinh93 I can do the sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos. I use an RSVP MX and own a Dr. KT that I never use. Could you give me some advice? Please respond!
I customized my own flying panda but i still dont know if i should use , i know thumb around harmonic , sonic , twisted sonic , infinity , figure 8 (every finger) double charge , neo sonic ,
I cant really use a light pen it makes me feel unncomfortable spinning it
Use a lighter pen so it can help with improving your control, then once you move to a heavier pen it will have a better execution of the moves.
@@jacen884 That's a mith. Any pen works and if he can't really spin light mods, then sucks to be him. This video by ktrin is a joke at this point
Ya Boi Tombuto “mith” 😂
so ive already started on an ivan mod, and i was thinking of changing to an mx. I already know all the basics and a lot more tricks. Would it be okay if i used a waterfall as well or should i still use the mx for a while
I know some basic ones, Thumb around, thumb around reverse, harmonic, charge, sonic, single double and triple infinity and the finger pass. No combos yet...
Can you please give me a set of 10 videos or so of the first tricks you think I should learn? I've learned the thumb around and the "middle finger around"?. I can execute both pretty much 19/20 times with ease. Just wanna broaden my skill set and not sure what would be best to learn next. Thanks!
i can do sonics, twisted sonics, infinities, thumbarounds, fingerless thumbarounds, and shadows. I've only been using bictories. i was going to buy a pen online, but i'm not sure which to get
@KTrinh93 When do you think I should learn power tricks? Trick database: sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos.
@KTrinh93 you said earlier youre gonna make a tut on finger stretching and warm up or something like that.. so can you make that too? btw the tretching - does it really help? i mean does it have any effect on the nerve endings? (which if stretched or lengthened or something can possibly have an effect on the ammount of coordination and control on the fingers) and the last thumb bone - is it possible to make it bend more by stretching it? hope im not overloading you w/questions or something haha
It's better to use a Bictory for beginners they have decent weight and they can help you learn tricks like the thumbaround much faster.
So light tho
I wanted to know am I still considered a beginner if i know the thumbaround, sonic, twisted sonic, shadow, reverse sonic, finger less thumbaround reverse, devil sonic, demons devil sonic, devils around, demon sonic, charge, index around, and a twisted sonic bust.
@HoulMello I did. You have to work your way up. I might make a video clarifying this up.
I know the sonic, twisted sonic, devil's sonic, palmspin, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround, reverse thumbaround, warped sonic, charge, infinity, fake double, shadow, sonic rise, fingerpass, and maybe a few others I missed. I think I'm an intermediate spinner and I'm using an RSVP MX^2. I would like to know what level I really am and what mod I should be using. Please respond!
Mk... I understand but what tricks should I learn now? I really like your tutorial videos, they teach me alot. I have a RSVP MX that I made should I keep using that until I feel ready to move on?
oh some good tricks to search are the charge the reverse thumb around the sonic those those are the basics to get into all the sonic and charge and busts
i am a begginer i have learned thunb around, charge, sonic and a thumbless sonic and finger pass when do i know that im intermediate
Hi, quick question ktrinh93. i started penspinning 8 years ago and stopped after like a year of spinning. every now and then i would just subconsciously pick up a pen and execute some combos with it because im bored. i can execute combos fluidly with ease and recently begun having an interest in penspinning again. when i come back to pen spinning i saw amazing tricks like hai tuas being invented and am trying to learn those. i consider myself as an advanced penspinner although my combos are kind of oldschool but should i use my bustercyl to learn the hai tua? because u said that it is recommended for advanced spinners to use the buster but u also mentioned that busters are better for EXECUTING a trick and not learning a trick so the information is somewhat conflicting for me.
Andre Boulay I think its better to just use the buster after you have learned the trick because the reason why he doesnt want people to learn tricks with heavy pens is so that they can develop their style more because they used lighter pens first
I went from bictory to inverse comssa to waterfall
Good.
Question here. I spin with heavy marching drumsticks as a side effect of being in the school band. I am a high level spinner in terms of skill and dexterity. Since my fingers are used to that level of weight and handle that efficiently with no pain, could I start on a heavy weighted pen?
+P. Watts I think you are in a much better position to do this than most people and would likely pick up pen spinning easily, but with no guarantees whatsoever. The difference in size and weights might really throw you. They still recommend you learn on lighter pens so that you are not stuck only being able to use the heavy as hell ones for tricks. The beginner techniques are easier to get down with weight, but you don't learn it properly that way - its like cheating yourself. It makes everything else harder later on. That and the dexterity / strength issue are the main concerns. You've got those down pat. You can try a heavy pen, but I would spend some time on a light on first, just to not mess up your fundamentals. I'm super new to this, so my advice is based only on what I have read elsewhere.
+jakewastaken thanks!
So I was wondering I have like mod that mostly looks like a buster and almost build the same way accpect I used dr. Grip tips and grips and I used white Bic caps with a slice of aBicbody to hold the cap on the supertip accept the commas back would that be considered a subbed buster Or a personal mod?
So I have a question.
I got a comssa about 4 months ago. I learned infinity and thumb around with it. I have been spinning daily (combined, probably 1-1.5 hrs a day.) I just didn't like the feel of how light it was. So, not having watched this video, I got a buster about a month and a half ago. Now i can do all the build tricks (Charge, Sonic, Shadow, Thumbaround, and others like twisted sonic) What should I do now? Stick with the buster, go down to a waterfall or go down to a beginner mod?
is it ok if i just use my hand made pen??
its made out off
2 BIC round stick grip (only the end part)
ang 2 caps the a rubber at the end of each cap.
I have a question. I know the charge, sonic, thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, figure 8(all fingers), infinity, neosonic, half tap reverse,fl ta charge rev, and palm around. I've been using a BICtory and a pencil with erasers with eraser caps on either end. Should I move on to a metallic comssa and RSVP-MX? Thanks if you answered.
I just use an unsharpened pencil with a little bubble wrap superglued to both sides. Which gives the tips some weight. The pencil is super light and so are the tips, but the tips weight slightly heavier, so it makes it a lot easier for me to learn/execute tricks. It's perfect for a novice.
ok ive mastered the fundamentals on my msxa. and im branching out to new tricks like warped sonic, twisted sonic busts and etc, would i be a intermediate, or still considered a beginner.
Thanks, at the beginning i wanted to get buster cyl but that pen is for pros, i will get this comssa and after a while i will get buster cyl too, thanks...
ktrinh i have a question i wan to know wither i am inter or beginner
tricks i can "EXECUTE"
-Infinity
-Charge
-Twisted Sonic
-Thumbaround
-Fingerless Thumbaround
-Thumbaround To Air
-Fingerpass
-Fingerpass Rev
I know the : fingerpasses , charges, TAs, sonics , twisted sonics, neosonic, infinity ( normal, double and triple), tw sonic bust ,shadow, devils shadow , demons shadow and around. What mod should I get?
I gradually increased and increased the weight of my bictory then used an adjusted buster but i decided to spin an mx
@Ktrinh93 what trick should i learn next? i know ta,ta harmonic,shaodw,twisted soinc,twisted sonic bust, reverse ta,and more
dude you need a signo tipped mod if you know all that i know some power tricks and im still using a signoed sc mod
defidently stay away from buster cyl at beginner/intermediate learned the heard way. also highly reccomend a flying pabda for an intermediate spinner :)
I switched to a Buster a few months back and after a few weeks of spinning it, it feels lighter now.
I'm a beginner (well not a real starter, I can do charges, sonic, thumb around, double sonics, wiper, double infinity (kind of) and some basic combinations of them. I been doing charges, double sonics, thumb arounds and infinity when I'm bored in class for about 3 years) and I'm using a personal BICtory mod that weights around 12g. Would that be fine for me? Is it too heavy for a beginner? I heard the beginners might rely on the momentum that the heavy weight brings and lose the basic/fundamental control. I'm not very good with my pinky finger yet
I'm an Intermediate, but i have VERY good style/control, and very strong fingers, and i can use a buster cal without my hands getting tiered. Just saying, as KTrinh93 said, these limits aren't set in stone
i know the charge, finger pass, sonic, and thumbaround should i get the metallic comssa mod?
I'm a beginner pen spinner. I can only do the thumb around and reverse thumb around, sonic, twisted sonic, a clunky charge and trying shadow now. Know what I'm spinning? A pendolsa spinstick. Talk about rushing through lol... These are like the premium ones you can get because they are really heavy and long but they look so cool... so I'm definitely picking the wrong choice of pen lol. I've got a ZG v7 and a ZG v11 on the way tho. Don't know if they'll fit my beginner learning...
@eggsta626 So that way as you improve into heavier mods it's easier to always go back and spin lighter mods, whereas its harder when the opposite is applied. When starting with a heavier mod it tends to destroy your style since you're still building up the foundation of your pen spinning and also possibly ruin your fingers.
Where do you get those pen? I'm from Vietnam and I don't know where to buy those pen. can you please tell me where can I buy them or how to make them?
thnx mate, plz recommend a place where i can get them. maybe a store?
For these pens, can we actually use them? As in not for spinning but stuff like writing?
@Ktrinh93 so ive been spinning for about 1.5yrs. but i havent been doing combos. ive jus been doing the different sonics(in each finger slot), tumbarounds(reverse, extended), and infinity. i havent really attempted to put them together but i can do them. what pen would u recommend on learning how to put combos together?
My best is V15 it's so good for intermediate or even advanced pen spinners it's so balanca in the middle and It's easy to find even on ebay or amazon ect. BTW V15 is weight about 23 grams
YES. this is the pen that i will be getting and MANY people have said "this is the best beginner pen out there" and simmilar from that. so yes this pen is light for beginners and will build your skills very well!
Im an intermediate, but im trying to decide from the flying panda or the waterfall since theyre both on penwish.
I know Charge 12 and charge 23 i also know sonic and twisted sonic i also do thumb around and index around and also ext.infinity,What pen i will use?
Well, I only have a bunch of RSVP MXes, a Dr. KT which is way too heavy, and a BICtory.
Alright, so I'm just curious. As an intermediate/high-intermediate balisong flipper, I have at least minimal dexterity and familiarity with using my fingers for tricks, and flip a Bali weighing in at 5.28 oz. I'm used to the weight and can flip that comfortably for longer periods at a time, but I'm still new to penspinning. I know you said it's not set in stone, but would you still say it's fine for me to use a higher weight pen, considering my background with balisongs?
+xXMoonbaneXx The only reason it's bad for beginners to spin heavy pens is because they have a lot of momentum. The momentum will generally help you execute tricks and carry your movements. However, this makes beginners fingers sort of lazy and if they tried to spin a bictory, then they would see that the pen would move just barely. Pens with smaller barrels will make you exaggerate your finger motions more, thus training your control. Even if you have the hand muscles you would not have the control.
+Pr3tz - Is it okay for beginner to use a heavy pen if they don't want to use lighter pens and spin just for the fun of it?
If you really want to, I suggest you start off with a waterfall. I have been penspinning for a year now and I still find spinning pencils and my bictory enjoyable ( somehow ). It's a bonus if you can make your combos look fluent starting with a heavy pen. I'd say if you already have spun a pencil, go for it!
Yeah I have been spinning with pencils and normal pens for around one and a half year now
@yinyangpenspinner Well the one would have AirFit grips and the other would have Sailor Gel grips =P I prefer AirFit because they feel nicer to me but it's personal preference.
Thanks. That's what I've been using. I need some metal tips. I'm gunna try putting some screws in the plastic tips I have. But idk. I have no money or else I would buy a RSVP from one of my Asian friends.
Can i just take out the airfit of the buster and replace it with a signo tip? Wouldnt it be much lighter
I know like 40 different tricks should I use a buster
@KTrinh93 pls reply.... i have been spinning around for like 11months and i have been using pens which are heavy like the buster cyl because they are long unlike the RSVP which is short . so when i watched this video, i tried spinning using the light pens again and it was very hard because my fingers grew accustomed to the heavy pens. so is it ok if i just stick on spinning long and heavy pens like pencil mods and buster?
emboss(white) and put some dr grip grips and anyball profile grips it would look good
I have an Ivan giotto mod, and I am a beginner. What should I do? I didn't watch your video before buying. Suggest me the time of my each session so that I can progress easier cause I cant buy another mod.
Thanks for your advice :)
I like the rsvp with caps on both ends so i can ise it at school, i can't spin an rsvp mx with out caps on both sides
You might want to check out the RSVP NX MMT then.
I'm a beginner, but I spin a ZG Buster. I'm just able to control heavier pens a lot better. Do you think I should use a different one?
+Square Pyramid I think heavier pens spin better for everyone, but if you get used to the weight, your fundamentals are not as good and you are much more limited in pen selection. If you learn on lighter pens you can always use a heavier one later which is required for certain tricks. Starting out heavy means you can only use those few heavy pens in the future and you might be at a disadvantage skill wise, from what I understand.
Lol I have been spinning those thick and thin markers for over a year now, work fantastically
What would yo say defines an intermediate spinner? I have been spinning for 2 months now and have been spinning with an Rsvp Mx for about a month (bictory before). In addition, I know all fundamentals, but not the reverses and some of the more advanced moves to go along with it, also I do simple combos, so my question is, do you believe that I can move on to a waterfall mod?
Like I mentioned in the video, there is no definition of an intermediate spinner. It's a really complex balance of a lot of different factors. Since everyone progresses at different rates and have different linkages/smoothness/etc, it's impossible to give a clean-cut definition of that. I would stick with the MX if I were you.
Alright thanks man. Btw love your stuff.
Hey.
How many tricks do you have to know to be considered Advance/Intermediate Spinner?
Also if you could tell me what I should learn next. I deleted my old comment to update it so here is my trick database: sonic, thumbaround, fingerless thumbaround, thumbaround reverse, thumbaround harmonic, twisted sonic, warped sonic, sonic rise, reverse sonic, sonic fall, indexaround, charge, double charge, thumbflap charge, devil's sonic, fake double, shadow, and maybe a few others I'm forgetting, I can also freestyle and make simple combos.
I currently use a zhigao, cus I have no other choice, its really hard to find Pens that contain the parts for pen modding here in my town...
You could try making a paper mod.
Rip why not a bictory
@MINGTHEBING Just because you can do those power tricks doesn't determine what level you're at. How many months have you been spinning?
snap........i've been spinning for about 4.5 months now, and im spinning with a buster. but i can haitua and twisted sonic double bust. so.... should i get a lighter mod?
I am Intermediate and I am always spinning pencils, should I get a mod? I am doing well with the pencil
Whats the other Advanced Mod after the Buster Cyl? Aint that clear to hear, and is a VGG Mod constructable or you can only buy it?
@drjohn123451 Look for my very first tutorials and follow the order of those more or less. Keep using the MX for the next few months regardless of how prepared you feel to move on. A lot of beginners tend to overestimate their abilities. Plus an MX will develop your style and control a lot better than a buster.
I had known charge for like 2 years and then i learned all fundementals in a day but i learned twisted instead of normal sonic cuz i got confused
I got my buster yesterday and I hve only been spinning pen for like 4-5 months should I change my pen ?
Personally, I started with a simple McDonalds straw with some small pieces of colored tape on the ends to help me track the number of revolutions when I was first learning how to do a thumb around.
what trick do you know?can you do a combo?
can u do a construction tutorial video on "waterfall" mod or any other intermediate mod?
@ktrinh93 i just got the RSVP MX, and it has a great feel in my hands. however, i want to write with it too, is there anyway to replace the ink tube?? if so... how????
And I was wondering if I could get your opinion as to how the new mod may differ from the pirat and/or commsa waterfall mod. I understand that you don't have the pen so you obviously don't know, but since you are a lot more experienced I figured you would have some general insight for this choice. Also, I know that the original and commsa waterfall mods have a slight issue with teflon tape - does the supertip body of the buster waterfall address this issue?
Cuz one pen may contain parts from like 4 different pens. For example, it may use a grip from one pen, caps from another, body from another, and so on. Most of the time, when you get a grip off of a certain pen, the only good thing about that pen is the grip and you really cant use the rest of the pen. Same with the other parts of a mod. So really you have to pay for the pens used to make the mod, and a small extra fee for it to be premade.
@jackymacky2 I might make a rant about spinning heavy mods.. just for kicks and giggles. And for some serious lessons as well.
I wish I started with an RSVP MX, I don't like my style at the moment.
I've got no clue how to bust...
Working of the backaround right now.
I use the flying panda mod, in my opinion it's pretty good I'm planning to get a buster
uuuh i just use a pental r.s.v.p. and put another cap on the empty side and im a beginner is this ok or is it too heavy of a pen to start out with????
im new to this and i have for mods 2 in begginer 1 in intermediate and 1 in advance ( i saw this vid once and then bought them by looks then saw it again and saw my mistake) but does it matter if i have these if i learn my tricks with all of them?
I started in April of 2012, and I've been spinning actively ever since. Would you consider me an intermediate? I know enough tricks to make my own 10-20 second comboes. Oh, and is a G3 MX good for Intermediates?
started with a mech pencil then got a buster cyl didnt like it 2 well after i got a dr.kt shadow. now i mainly spen a minwoo mod or vgg still workin on mult bust and flush sonic i guezz i just hit intermediate caing now just 7 modz
Nice video KTrinh, i agree with everything u have said, only one question, u said we need about a year to touch the mods like buster or vics mod, lol, why??? I agree this is professional pen spinners mods, however 1 year is too much and some people may find it easier to learn new tricks with heavier pen, even u said in ur video that it was difficult for u to learn TA with light pen!
@jackymacky2 BIC?tipless superblak or tipless XBuster ;)
To be honest im a begginer and im going to order a flying panda because ijust love it for some magical reason. But since you said to stay in your range i will order a metalic mod also and train with that and see how i like the flying panda. But if i dont like the flying panda i will wait till i get better. So, thank uKtrinh93
I'm a beginner, and I prefer heavier mods. When I use a light mod (bictory, mx, etc.) it was actually harder for me to learn tricks. But when a friend of mine gave me his ZG Buster, I liked it a lot more, I learned the tricks that I couldn't learn on the bictory. So I guess it kind of depends on the spinner on which pen they like to spin with :)
im not sure if he mentioned it in the vid, and im not bashing your pen choice, but generally, heavier pens ARE easier to learn tricks. but a lighter pen, though its harder to learn and execute tricks on, is better for your style of pen spinning becaues it helps your control, making you a better spinner in the long run.
I've started to spin lighter pens now. I stopped spinning heavier pens and moved to a bictory, but I like it a little heave, not too much, not too little (:
wistyanh get waterfall.
or inverse comssa has tons of momentum
I've been spinning for 3 months and apparently i must be good because i know hitua, triple ta, etc so i'm not sure what i should be spinning. I'm using a custom sc mod with signo tips and a super tip body. My friend (same level of spinner) keeps using his buster and double tipped waterfall comssa and says my mod is light. so what should i spin?