Bingo davedavis. They should put public service announcements on TV just like they do with cigarettes. Show what a drunk looks like 4 hours after bleeding to death out their esophagus. It's not a pretty picture I can assure you.
Nobody BLAMED the yacht owner. The issue was how the owner & crew responded. The owner is annoyed by the death bc they’re trying to entertain celebrities & then none of he crew or anyone attends the funeral or even send flowers. All that $ but no class. Show compassion to the family. Show empathy for the loss of a young life in their prime. Even if they didn’t attend the funeral they could send flowers & a card 🤦🏻♀️
I feel bad for the mother that her son died, but it's not the yacht owner's fault, or even indicative of something wrong with yachting, which seems to be the intent of this mini-docu. The kid got drunk and did something stupid.
Jonathan Stewart the child was overworked. Why was the cabins locked. Who was the owner of the yacht? Yes his death was unfortunate but living rich also means having responsibility for people working for you.
Stop calling him "THE CHILD". He was his mother's child, but he was an adult. He worked a double, then CHOSE to go out partying. The article didn't say, so i won't assume he had been drinking, but it is certainly a possibility. He left his group, went to the ship, and experienced what kids his age experience all the time - trouble with keys. He did not have one. He then chose, tired and maybe influenced, to climb to the top of a sleek yacht, at night, and tragedy followed. I agree with my bro Jonathan.
Having crewed in both the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, I was unsurprised at what the reporter heard when he spoke with a group of crew. No doubt he hoped to uncover something shocking. What does he actually hear? “It’s exhausting, but it’s great fun”. It’s also tax free. It’s unfortunate that a young man drowned, but his death had nothing to do with the owners or other crew. Sorry, but youth + partying + alcohol + a boat sometimes = trouble. Yes, the owners should have sent someone to his funeral. But the reality is that crew are hired through crew agencies, that crew members are mostly young and that the workforce is highly transient. Indeed, one of the attractions is the ability to change boats/destinations easily.
But someone on the yacht should have been on an active watch to let the crewman inside. So your saying that on ANY mega-yacht, moored or docked in port, you can just walk aboard and start climbing around on her and no one will notice? Sure, right... and you state you have crewed on yachts? The captain of this yacht is DIRECTLY responsible for his crew member's death if a proper dockside watch and security was not in place. End of story.
See More Toys Sorry, but the young man’s mother does not make any allegations against the owner or captain, apart from callousness with respect to the funeral.
Yes, I understand and feel for her position, but the accident should not have happened. The crew member's actions contributed a lot to this accident, but as you stated, those types of actions by crew members are common knowledge. I have skippered large yachts. People and/or crew members should not be allowed to come aboard your yacht in the middle of the night and start climbing around. Someone should not even be able to come aboard unless invited. Someone should have been on an active watch and making rounds. "Locked the doors." Yeah, I'll come steal your small boat(s) and outboard(s) if that is your security system. If an active watch was not set at the time, the owner and captain are responsible for a part of the legal liability of his death, IMHO.
stop victim blaming i bet your the sort of dude that would defend a rap*st to uphold your own male buddy buddy privledge and / advantage that you get from oppression and supression of her voice
So her son works a double shift, which means hes probably pretty tired. And instead of choosing to go to sleep, he chooses to go out drinking, then he stumbles back to the boat drunk, finds it locked, and instead of calling for someone to let him in, or just waiting for his other crew mates to come back, he chooses to climb up the side of the yacht, falls, and drowns. How the hell is that a problem with the yachting industry and yacht owners? I'll grant you that staff can work long hours, but if at the end of your long shift you decide to go out drinking rather than going to bed, whatever happens is on you.
So this young man was tired from working back to back shifts, so his solution was to go out drinking so late that he was locked out of the boat. His next brilliant idea was to scale the outside of a yacht, while drunk, to get inside. And somehow, this is supposed to reflect on the yacht owners? There are too many reasonable alternatives that he could have taken for me to mention but the bottom line is grown adults need to be responsible for themselves and make proper decisions. I see nothing here that being in a union would have solved. Unions don't stop people from being risk takers who make bad decisions. He could have just as easily gotten too drunk and have the same accident after working one shift.
The life of Jools Considering he just worked a double Id beg to differ. Just like the mother said, if these sailors were unionized there'd be better safety regs and requirements
ninjaman12310 The guy wasn’t so tired that he couldn’t go partying and drinking. He died because of his own negligence. Very tragic but to blame his boss (the Captain) or the owner is not just.
That was only ONE of the points she was making. These scumbags - and that's exactly what they are - treated a human life as an inconvenience. Imagine if everyone was as shallow. Don't call an ambulance because there may be too much traffic. Don't look for a doctor or a surgeon because they could be playing golf etc etc. SCUMBAGS!!
So, one tragic death and vague statements about overworked crew, combined with some beauty shots of a yacht. Where are the actual facts of his death from an official? Where's the opportunity for rebuttal by an industry representative? This just feels like a sloppy hit piece.
What responsibility were the rich lacking? This idiot went out drinking after a double shift then climbed to the top of a 6-story yacht to fall to his death. What a shocker.
@@gageashbaugh8455 The video did.LOLOLOLOLOL He was a young kid... Clearly an Alpha personality. It's not very hard at all to read between the lines and you know what? I'd stake my next 10 paychecks on the fact the kid was at a minimum tipsy on top of being overly exhausted from having worked a double AND gone out an "celebrated" the crossing with his friends. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together.
Hindsight says you should put out nets in case your crew comes back drunk and can't figure just to sleep on deck. Sleep up forward or on the side deck to not be underfoot. Go sleep in the dinghy. Or set a rule, no drunks onboard
Peter Pan the mother never mentioned koney, she mentioned protection for other workers. I will say though that without knowing for sure that he was drunk it sounds like he wasnt thinking straight.
You don't look after your front sidewalk after it snows, and you slip and fall... whos to blame? You have a pool in your backyard. There is a fence around the yard, but not around the pool itself, and one morning you awake to find some kid floating in it dead .. who is to blame? I could go on and on, but the answer is the homeowner ... A worker on a boat (who lives on the boat) comes home to sleep for the night, but finds he is locked out which is no fault of his own. He is drunk and attempts to access his home via a dangerous method (climbing decks), and slips and falls ... who is to blame? I main reason someone would lose a case like this would be funding for lawyers ... The billionaire would have access to the bast lawyers money can buy, while the less fortunate mother would have issues getting a so-so lawyer to try the case ... It is unfair, but that is the way things are these days! Now, I am not saying that she would lose, BUT her chances of winning would be greatly diminished.
My friend is a yacht captain based in California, former chief officer on tankers. He has worked for some very wealthy people and they all make him sign a nondisclosure agreement. He said that the crew works long hours and it all depends on who's boat you wind up on for your quality of life. Some owners treat the crew far better than others.
he worked a double shift, then decided to right away get drunk in party then come back alone and climb around a giant boat and slip and fell. there's no fault on the yacht or the owner.
So, Michael drowned after falling from a 65 million pound yacht! - Billy drowned falling from a 50 pond canoe. How about covering Billy, Guardian? We all know you hate the rich. Change the record FFS!
Leggo My Ego he wasn't wearing a life jacket. Billy probably didn't know how to swim. Most deaths are because people don't wear their PFD's as required by law.
i live in a yacht base island in the Caribbean and unfortunately 95% of the yachty crews that are under 27 get absolutely wasted and consume mountains of cocain, its the truth and the only way deaths like these are prevented is with drug tests and strict rules about off the job behaviour.
Plenty of captains aged well over 27 getting wasted too! However, on our 76m nobody drinks, there are 6 beers left from a 12 pack from Christmas sitting in the walk-in fridge.
While what happened to her son was tragic, I fail to see how it was the owner's fault. She mentions Michael Douglas and his wife, but how are they involved, other than bad timing?
The weak and/or stupid die while those who are better survive, if you try to climb up into your cabin instead of finding someone to unlock it or sleeping somewhere else and you get yourself killed in the process then you are stupid and weak.
Andrew Leonardi the absurdity of this culture is more interesting than the luxury of it. How many people can relate to owning a 275 million dollar yacht? the broker says "plenty" of people. That's an absurd statement just by itself.
Yes, a tragedy for sure no person should die so young. When do we take responsibility for our actions? He had options, find a room, make a call --- Sleep on the deck. Climbing to the top was his choice and sadly it turned out badly.
My wife and I are fairly well off and anyone who works for us are treated like an extension of our family and all have our cell phone number. I get the kid was more than likely drunk but its not only the kids fault the yacht to be locked. I also never expect people to work extremely long hours for modest amounts of money. There is nothing worse than wealthy people who thinks money makes them special, all people should be treat with respect.
What the video neglects to mention is that the yacht the kid fell off has a locked-out procedure for crews, and even a spare key that allows the crew to get in the yacht.
While I feel for the lady the idea that the multi-million dollar business of luxury yachting would simply stop for her sons passing is not based on reality. People pay a fortune to charter these boats and simply put the show must go on. No one is holding any of those staff at gunpoint demanding they accept their contracts and they normally welcome to step off at any port of their choosing should they wish to quit. The kid had to too much to drink and tried something silly instead of sleeping it off on the deck. I am sorry for her but that is nothing to do with this type of boating.
Rich man buys yatch👍 Rich man hires a young guy to work on the yatch 🤙Young guy goes out to party and comes back exhausted and drunk wanting to rest✌🏿Doors are locked so young drunk guy does a stupid thing climbing onto the top of the yatch trying to find an open compartment to enter instead of waiting for someone to come open the door👎🏻... Young guy falls off the yatch and dies. 🙀 Owner is upset that the kid got drunk and fell to his death off his precious yatch doing something stupid and doesn’t attend funeral.😬 Mom is super mad at yatch owner and demand apology for her stupid drunk son’s death. HOW IS THE DEATH HIS FAULT? 🤔 *According to the story, the crew has maximum amount of hours they can work on the yatch then allowed to rest. He got drunk on his free-time and wasn’t even supposed to be working when he died. Conclusion; Yatch owner didn’t break any laws and his vacation was inconvenienced by the preventable death. Not that he doesn’t care as a human being but he or she was mad that safety rules were not followed by the guy.
Staying on one of the nicest yachts in the world with all the finest amenities and services seems like a real tough job! How do they work in such horrible conditions?!?
Why is it the owner’s fault that a drunk dude tried to get access to a yacht which he doesn’t own? Should have gotten a room somewhere to sleep it off.
Why are they over dramatising this? Seems like a any job where you need adhere to safety standards. Condolences to the guys family but he shouldn't doing cirque du soleil stunts on a yacht
I may be missing something but it sounds like this young man went out and drank, was exhausted then climbed up on a ship and tragically fell. That’s not exactly the fault of anyone but himself, unless there are additional facts.
In a super yatch owners should not allow crew touch any alchool at all . Crew members must be well aware at all times just in case .Emergencies do happen and all must be ready .With water proximity even swimming pools are dangerous if combined with alchool. They are dangerous even without allchool . Not to mention the vast oceans !
Oh no, my son was so dumb, he thought it is a clever idea to climb drunken around a yacht in the dark. And when the inevitable happens, let's just blame the owner, the lack of unions and the whole yachting "culture" which all had absolutely nothing to do with the accident. Top quality journalism for sure!
Seeing other yacht crew videos, I'm impressed with how safety conscious they are; safety systems are hi-tech amazing. The sea can be unforgiving, there are risks. Rich people demanding? No really.
Ok so you work really hard to earn a Billion dollars. So did you do it to shop at Dollar general? No you did it to be able to buy what ever you want. And a lot of wealthy people help a lot of less fortunate people.
Lol you “work hard” to become a billionaire. Sure that’s exactly how one becomes a billionaire. By working hard. Lofl! Continue toiling your life away, you only need to work harder as boxer used to say...
I wonder how much fuel they consume and how much it costs. And mom while I am sorry for the loss of your beloved son, this wasn't a work-related death. He was tired, got drunk and tried to break into a ship. What could possibly go wrong.....
Sry but the guy got drunk, tried to climb and fell and died. How is that even yacht-specific? That can happen literally anywhere, where there´s anything that´s high enough.
Sooooo ok let me get this straight I worked a sidejob yesterday outside in the heat and when I got done wife and I went had dinner and came home. I didnt go party afterwards much less try to crawl all over a yacht. Yes its terrible she lost her son but that was a bad choice on that man's decision to do that. Plus that's why most are young and single they know what kind of job it is and want to go boat around the world.
To put this perspective i worked as an officer on cargo ships, with little glamour and probably lower pay. The maximum time i ever did on duty was around 40 hours and I have known of people working longer! Only did that once, but 18 hours plus were not that uncommon. Modern regs make this illegal but pressures are still there. This was a tragic situation but it was not the owners or captains fault. However it does seem remiss that some gesture of condolence was not offered to his parents.
Drunk or not i wouldnt climb no super yachet for one cozy night sleep, he should of know better, he who climb it himself not forced to its on him, how sad it may be, may he rest in peace
If employed why was he unable to access the ship? My condolences but why would you want people at your sons funeral who did not know or care about him?
Normally, billionaires have very competent pilots at the helm, but, there are, of course, exceptions! But in the case of this young man falling, it no doubt would NOT have happened if he had not been drunk. You can blame that on NO ONE but the kid himself. A sad accident, but It was NOT the fault of the yacht owner or anyone else, but today, people will sue anyone they think has money in hopes of the case settling for big bucks, because the parties involved do NOT want to go through a lengthy, costly trial. But that is NOT the way it should be! The offended party (boat owner) no doubt has insurance, and that's exactly why all our insurance premiums are increasing every single year!
Tons of drugs, alcohol and prostitutes consumed on-board many of the largest yachts, plus the added dangers of the sea and of course there are some rather dangerous owners too. But the crew receive tax free pay and most yachts are overcrewed making life generally quite easy especially when the owner is not aboard (98% of the time)
What people who admire these yachts forget (and they are to be admired they are stunning) is that the owners are usually horrible, arrogant, often corrupt individuals.
They said the yacht was locked up so he must have returned very late. I too lock it down when away from my home port. So why didn't he call a co-worker to let him in I wonder. Seems odd to me the crew entrance was locked considering someone was still not on-board. Something doesn't smell right about this sad story.
_When you see an owner looking at yachts, they're also looking at what it represents, so it represents them._ Wow, quality wisdom right there :/ I thought it represents their neighbour's dog
They probably spend enough time on it that it makes more sense to buy it. Besides the really big yachts don’t deprecate no where near as much as small yachts.
Your son died cause he was drunk and did something stupid... don’t try make the owner look bad for your sons decisions. If he worked a double, probably should have just gone home to sleep instead of going out getting pissed.....
It seems he wasn’t able to gain access to his bunk. Why was the yacht locked up. Something is not right about this story. We all do silly things when we are drunk. The young mans loss of life is very sad. It’s the captain who is responsible for the ship and crew. I thought it was mandatory for someone to be on board at all times.
Eric Littman All the yachts are locked up at 8pm, it’s standard practice. What i’m guessing happened was he was to drunk or forgot the security code or key to get in. Unfortunate but it does happen.
Drifty325i thank you for letting me know. My experience is only from working on a cruise liner. I gather that although the yachts are locked up, the crew still have access via keys or security cards. It seems he made a very stupid decision. There seems to be a deep lack of understanding in the young of how fragile we are. Once again many thanks.
No person should die while working. But this isn't hardship this is choice. If I offer these jobs to people El Salvador, Haiti, South Africa. They would say they made it. This is like any job in the western world. But for some this would be the best job in the world.
Really tacky, cheap looking interiors. Really oblivious to climate change and the destruction of habitat in the Mediterranean. You can put a price on stupid and apparently it's hundreds of millions of pounds.
Yeah, the interiors built to perfection by some of the best craftsmen in the world really makes it look cheap... Dude, u have disco lights in your living room, you don't get to judge.
Also in the same sea as these boats, thousands of people are fleeing climate change and resource depletion and drowning. But hey, you have fake gold trim around your hot tubs. You're special! LOL
So what? It is not their responsibility as individuals to fix global crisis and political issues. Helping others is voluntary no matter how wealthy you are, and many superyacht owners do. After the hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria in the Caribbean, superyachts owners contributed with 147,418 kgs of aid 83,000 meals 48,000 hygiene kits 6,300 tools 1,850 tarpaulins 1,250 water filters 1,000s of volunteers on 15 islands. A yacht is a symbol of great personal success in business, and only a small portion of their fortune is spent on this. What they do with the rest of their money you know nothing about, and frankly is none of your business. Do what feels right for you, and let other people do the same.
I get that owning one of these ships is a statement, and status symbol for the individuals who buy them. I am no where near their level, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on ships like that. Personally, I would spend it on a barge type ship the largest I could fund in reasonable terms not bloated because they know I can afford it. On this barge I would have it made to be a mobile island self sustaining home. It would cost me less than any of these yachts, and I still have all the comfort of home, I can entertain guests, anything I choose. All while saving myself millions. The reason I do not is I see no point in spending my money on these kinds of items in the first place. I have my home, and my happiness. I am content.
Emperor Master how are any of those tasks the responsibilities of the government? "your" health and welfare = "your" responsibility. Yes there are individuals who have special needs that require special circumstances but other than that the government is not responsible for anything other than governing and defending its people. Social welfare should be privatized and handled at the local level thereby giving maximum benefit with minimal oversight.
It's not that they caused his death or that he's their victim. It's that his death inconvenienced them. That's narcissism and that's what's eating the world.
His death was an inconvenience to them because he died from doing an act that would obviously result in harm. I get pissed off when young drunk people break their legs and arms after falling over and block the road with their ambulances. That inconveniences me.
My brother nearly died while sailing across the Atlantic Ocean. They travelled from Mallorca and the destination was Antigua. He was on the deck (not wearing his life jacket) and got careless. He grabbed a line, which pulled him overboard. If this would've happened at night, they would have never found him.
I agree that SOMEONE from the yacht is expected to appear at the funeral and convey respect and condolences to the family. Fault and blame are inconsequential to respect.
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No offense but I'd blame alcohol not the yacht or its owner. Alcohol kills many people every year but we never talk about it for some reason.
darkmath100 it also ruins families but pple r more concerned with smoking cigarettes
Bring back prohibition
just prohibit advertising and problem solved
Because idiots like Jeff sessions are busy tellung everyone that weed will kill you but doesn't pay any attention to alcohol.
Bingo davedavis. They should put public service announcements on TV just like they do with cigarettes. Show what a drunk looks like 4 hours after bleeding to death out their esophagus. It's not a pretty picture I can assure you.
Its terrible the kid died, but his choices, alcohol and doing something risky, how is that the fault of the yacht owner ?
they dont tell the story of the boy who died, could you please share....and thanks kindly.
Harpoon_Bakery are you sure you watched the same video? 😂 1:42
the kid basically died trying to break into a super yacht?
yeah, ok.....
sounds like its all on him.
True...but still u gotta have a heart..send smth to the family..flowers, smth man.
Nobody BLAMED the yacht owner. The issue was how the owner & crew responded. The owner is annoyed by the death bc they’re trying to entertain celebrities & then none of he crew or anyone attends the funeral or even send flowers. All that $ but no class. Show compassion to the family. Show empathy for the loss of a young life in their prime. Even if they didn’t attend the funeral they could send flowers & a card 🤦🏻♀️
I feel bad for the mother that her son died, but it's not the yacht owner's fault, or even indicative of something wrong with yachting, which seems to be the intent of this mini-docu. The kid got drunk and did something stupid.
Jonathan Stewart the child was overworked. Why was the cabins locked. Who was the owner of the yacht? Yes his death was unfortunate but living rich also means having responsibility for people working for you.
That boy was drunk and tired which made the scenario worse
Stop calling him "THE CHILD". He was his mother's child, but he was an adult. He worked a double, then CHOSE to go out partying. The article didn't say, so i won't assume he had been drinking, but it is certainly a possibility. He left his group, went to the ship, and experienced what kids his age experience all the time - trouble with keys. He did not have one. He then chose, tired and maybe influenced, to climb to the top of a sleek yacht, at night, and tragedy followed. I agree with my bro Jonathan.
Jonathan Stewart l
but its disrespectfull that they not showed up at the funrial or atleast sended a letter. ......
Having crewed in both the Caribbean and the Mediterranean, I was unsurprised at what the reporter heard when he spoke with a group of crew. No doubt he hoped to uncover something shocking. What does he actually hear? “It’s exhausting, but it’s great fun”. It’s also tax free.
It’s unfortunate that a young man drowned, but his death had nothing to do with the owners or other crew. Sorry, but youth + partying + alcohol + a boat sometimes = trouble. Yes, the owners should have sent someone to his funeral. But the reality is that crew are hired through crew agencies, that crew members are mostly young and that the workforce is highly transient. Indeed, one of the attractions is the ability to change boats/destinations easily.
Rory on a Bike you are, of course, correct. But that doesn’t play into the Guardian’s ongoing socialist agenda.
Well said. I'm going to forward this to Michael's mother. Sad but she needs to get the truth.
But someone on the yacht should have been on an active watch to let the crewman inside. So your saying that on ANY mega-yacht, moored or docked in port, you can just walk aboard and start climbing around on her and no one will notice? Sure, right... and you state you have crewed on yachts? The captain of this yacht is DIRECTLY responsible for his crew member's death if a proper dockside watch and security was not in place. End of story.
See More Toys Sorry, but the young man’s mother does not make any allegations against the owner or captain, apart from callousness with respect to the funeral.
Yes, I understand and feel for her position, but the accident should not have happened. The crew member's actions contributed a lot to this accident, but as you stated, those types of actions by crew members are common knowledge. I have skippered large yachts. People and/or crew members should not be allowed to come aboard your yacht in the middle of the night and start climbing around. Someone should not even be able to come aboard unless invited. Someone should have been on an active watch and making rounds. "Locked the doors." Yeah, I'll come steal your small boat(s) and outboard(s) if that is your security system. If an active watch was not set at the time, the owner and captain are responsible for a part of the legal liability of his death, IMHO.
Feel bad for her, she lost her son to something stupid, but it was all his doing. Noone else is to blame
stop victim blaming i bet your the sort of dude that would defend a rap*st to uphold your own male buddy buddy privledge and / advantage that you get from oppression and supression of her voice
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So her son works a double shift, which means hes probably pretty tired. And instead of choosing to go to sleep, he chooses to go out drinking, then he stumbles back to the boat drunk, finds it locked, and instead of calling for someone to let him in, or just waiting for his other crew mates to come back, he chooses to climb up the side of the yacht, falls, and drowns.
How the hell is that a problem with the yachting industry and yacht owners? I'll grant you that staff can work long hours, but if at the end of your long shift you decide to go out drinking rather than going to bed, whatever happens is on you.
He's so exhausted that he goes out drinking, and then he's so extra exhausted that he climbs a super yacht.
@Random Chance How do you lock a car with no one in it?
So this young man was tired from working back to back shifts, so his solution was to go out drinking so late that he was locked out of the boat. His next brilliant idea was to scale the outside of a yacht, while drunk, to get inside. And somehow, this is supposed to reflect on the yacht owners? There are too many reasonable alternatives that he could have taken for me to mention but the bottom line is grown adults need to be responsible for themselves and make proper decisions. I see nothing here that being in a union would have solved. Unions don't stop people from being risk takers who make bad decisions. He could have just as easily gotten too drunk and have the same accident after working one shift.
Goliathon's Cave Spot on
This whole piece was leading up to that unionization comment.
I think the entire point of the video is to show how inconsiderate and distance owners and crews are. A human life is not dispensable.
sean harricharan m8 are you some sort of small child?
@manic hispanic No one should be exploited, but in the real world, it happens all the time, everywhere.
He drank. He fell. How is that anyones fault but his?
Are you deaf?
vindikaktus
At the 7th minute for example
Well i guess it was a inconvenience due to stupidity, of course he could of used a door or somthing?
Yeah but he came back pissed and fell off the boat.... bad luck for sure...
But the blame lies with himself.
The life of Jools Considering he just worked a double Id beg to differ. Just like the mother said, if these sailors were unionized there'd be better safety regs and requirements
ninjaman12310 If you work a double, don't get drunk. Go to sleep.
ninjaman12310 The guy wasn’t so tired that he couldn’t go partying and drinking. He died because of his own negligence. Very tragic but to blame his boss (the Captain) or the owner is not just.
That was only ONE of the points she was making. These scumbags - and that's exactly what they are - treated a human life as an inconvenience. Imagine if everyone was as shallow. Don't call an ambulance because there may be too much traffic. Don't look for a doctor or a surgeon because they could be playing golf etc etc.
SCUMBAGS!!
The point his he had no choice, he needed to sleep did you expect him to walk around town and try and find a hotel
So, one tragic death and vague statements about overworked crew, combined with some beauty shots of a yacht. Where are the actual facts of his death from an official? Where's the opportunity for rebuttal by an industry representative? This just feels like a sloppy hit piece.
What responsibility were the rich lacking? This idiot went out drinking after a double shift then climbed to the top of a 6-story yacht to fall to his death. What a shocker.
It's the guardian..
More details needed. Who said he was out all night playing or working?
@@gageashbaugh8455 The video did.LOLOLOLOLOL He was a young kid... Clearly an Alpha personality. It's not very hard at all to read between the lines and you know what? I'd stake my next 10 paychecks on the fact the kid was at a minimum tipsy on top of being overly exhausted from having worked a double AND gone out an "celebrated" the crossing with his friends. Doesn't take a rocket scientist to put two and two together.
Hindsight says you should put out nets in case your crew comes back drunk and can't figure just to sleep on deck. Sleep up forward or on the side deck to not be underfoot. Go sleep in the dinghy. Or set a rule, no drunks onboard
No one is to blame for his death he did something stupid and cause his own death..the mother is just out for compensation money
Peter Pan the mother never mentioned koney, she mentioned protection for other workers. I will say though that without knowing for sure that he was drunk it sounds like he wasnt thinking straight.
Droning about NW modern unions arent protection for anybody but the union leaders
she won't get a lot of compensation because that's not how EU laws work (contrary to the US)
You don't look after your front sidewalk after it snows, and you slip and fall... whos to blame?
You have a pool in your backyard. There is a fence around the yard, but not around the pool itself, and one morning you awake to find some kid floating in it dead .. who is to blame?
I could go on and on, but the answer is the homeowner ...
A worker on a boat (who lives on the boat) comes home to sleep for the night, but finds he is locked out which is no fault of his own. He is drunk and attempts to access his home via a dangerous method (climbing decks), and slips and falls ... who is to blame?
I main reason someone would lose a case like this would be funding for lawyers ... The billionaire would have access to the bast lawyers money can buy, while the less fortunate mother would have issues getting a so-so lawyer to try the case ... It is unfair, but that is the way things are these days!
Now, I am not saying that she would lose, BUT her chances of winning would be greatly diminished.
She is a grieving mother, I don't have harsh words for her.
My friend is a yacht captain based in California, former chief officer on tankers. He has worked for some very wealthy people and they all make him sign a nondisclosure agreement. He said that the crew works long hours and it all depends on who's boat you wind up on for your quality of life. Some owners treat the crew far better than others.
Rubbish title. Rubbish editorial
title is rubbish
he worked a double shift, then decided to right away get drunk in party then come back alone and climb around a giant boat and slip and fell. there's no fault on the yacht or the owner.
That guy died from being drunk.
So, Michael drowned after falling from a 65 million pound yacht! - Billy drowned falling from a 50 pond canoe. How about covering Billy, Guardian? We all know you hate the rich. Change the record FFS!
Who's billy and how didn't he fall and drowned from a canoe?
Spartan Clipboard for Windows sucks for Billy
Leggo My Ego he wasn't wearing a life jacket. Billy probably didn't know how to swim. Most deaths are because people don't wear their PFD's as required by law.
Nah billy was just absolutely wasted on his canoe and fell out.
In America we frequently get drunk and get killed in boating accidents, no super-yachts are needed.
i live in a yacht base island in the Caribbean and unfortunately 95% of the yachty crews that are under 27 get absolutely wasted and consume mountains of cocain, its the truth and the only way deaths like these are prevented is with drug tests and strict rules about off the job behaviour.
There some really envious people here.
Plenty of captains aged well over 27 getting wasted too! However, on our 76m nobody drinks, there are 6 beers left from a 12 pack from Christmas sitting in the walk-in fridge.
@@seangreene64 Some nasty people as well.
a pretty feeble attempt at a hit piece..that kid died by his own drunken actions..it happens!
"Grieving mom tries to hold yacht owners accountable for her son's stupidity..."
This is just class envy.
My sincere condolences and deepest sympathies to the family of the young crewman that tragically died.
May he rest in peace.
What happened to the quote “drink responsibly”.
I don't understand. Why did the guy go and get pissed?
Should have had an early night.
While what happened to her son was tragic, I fail to see how it was the owner's fault. She mentions Michael Douglas and his wife, but how are they involved, other than bad timing?
Operational risk management meets natural selection.
You obviously dont know what natural selection is
The weak and/or stupid die while those who are better survive, if you try to climb up into your cabin instead of finding someone to unlock it or sleeping somewhere else and you get yourself killed in the process then you are stupid and weak.
xecular - if that was true all evolutionists would be dead already.
the pinkerton - you are a real naturally selected jerk
@@myhonestopinion9593 So stating the obvious is being a jerk? hahahahahaha.... Rainbows and pet unicorns for everyone!
Why so focused on the negative
Hating rich people is the national pastime now.
Andrew Leonardi the absurdity of this culture is more interesting than the luxury of it. How many people can relate to owning a 275 million dollar yacht? the broker says "plenty" of people. That's an absurd statement just by itself.
its the guardian "its only going to be the negative" not everyone who owns a yacht is going to necessarily be a horrible person
depends on the rich person, some do plenty of good charitable work
Because someone past away. A real human not a replacement robot.
After getting drunk all night, knowing the boat would close at a certain hour. Kid tries to break in to superyacht, kills himself...
I work on yachts and this lady is delusional if she thinks a union would ever be enacted for PLEASURE yachts.
lol are you even a legit billionaire if you allow your yacht employees to unionize?
if your yacht employees unionize you do what corporations do and move the yacht out of the country.
Or people can just negotiate their own contracts, especially if it considers their safety.
Johnny Rico this comment is hilarious afff 😂
You know everyone of these Yahts are registered in foreign countries, even if there Americans that own them
How is unionizing going to stop discount Peter Parkers from climbing up the side of a yacht?
Don't wanna die in a superyatch?
Work somewhere else. Go to McDonalds or whateaver. Nobody is forcing them to work for these rich people.
Micheal thought he was a superhero. And the mum is blaming the owners? Haha
Momma needs $$$, I may not be a fan of the rich, but the momma trying to extort someone for her stupid drunken sons actions
Yes, a tragedy for sure no person should die so young. When do we take responsibility for our actions? He had options, find a room, make a call --- Sleep on the deck. Climbing to the top was his choice and sadly it turned out badly.
what do you do with a drunken sailor,
early in the morning
My wife and I are fairly well off and anyone who works for us are treated like an extension of our family and all have our cell phone number. I get the kid was more than likely drunk but its not only the kids fault the yacht to be locked. I also never expect people to work extremely long hours for modest amounts of money. There is nothing worse than wealthy people who thinks money makes them special, all people should be treat with respect.
What the video neglects to mention is that the yacht the kid fell off has a locked-out procedure for crews, and even a spare key that allows the crew to get in the yacht.
While I feel for the lady the idea that the multi-million dollar business of luxury yachting would simply stop for her sons passing is not based on reality. People pay a fortune to charter these boats and simply put the show must go on. No one is holding any of those staff at gunpoint demanding they accept their contracts and they normally welcome to step off at any port of their choosing should they wish to quit. The kid had to too much to drink and tried something silly instead of sleeping it off on the deck. I am sorry for her but that is nothing to do with this type of boating.
Fiona needs to face reality about her sons death. In absolutely NO way was his death because of anything other than his own bad choices. Sad but true.
Rich man buys yatch👍 Rich man hires a young guy to work on the yatch 🤙Young guy goes out to party and comes back exhausted and drunk wanting to rest✌🏿Doors are locked so young drunk guy does a stupid thing climbing onto the top of the yatch trying to find an open compartment to enter instead of waiting for someone to come open the door👎🏻... Young guy falls off the yatch and dies. 🙀 Owner is upset that the kid got drunk and fell to his death off his precious yatch doing something stupid and doesn’t attend funeral.😬 Mom is super mad at yatch owner and demand apology for her stupid drunk son’s death. HOW IS THE DEATH HIS FAULT? 🤔
*According to the story, the crew has maximum amount of hours they can work on the yatch then allowed to rest. He got drunk on his free-time and wasn’t even supposed to be working when he died. Conclusion; Yatch owner didn’t break any laws and his vacation was inconvenienced by the preventable death. Not that he doesn’t care as a human being but he or she was mad that safety rules were not followed by the guy.
He got drunk and didnt have anyone with him
My wife worked aboard a super yacht. It was never locked for the evening. Captain was always on board if everyone else was out.
So he got drunk and fell off and died, horrible but whats this got to with billionaires? guardian readers love to hate success
Staying on one of the nicest yachts in the world with all the finest amenities and services seems like a real tough job! How do they work in such horrible conditions?!?
Why is it the owner’s fault that a drunk dude tried to get access to a yacht which he doesn’t own? Should have gotten a room somewhere to sleep it off.
He was staff
3:36 whats the name lf that song ?
Why are they over dramatising this? Seems like a any job where you need adhere to safety standards. Condolences to the guys family but he shouldn't doing cirque du soleil stunts on a yacht
Anyone know what the second yacht was?
I got dumber watching this
I may be missing something but it sounds like this young man went out and drank, was exhausted then climbed up on a ship and tragically fell. That’s not exactly the fault of anyone but himself, unless there are additional facts.
In a super yatch owners should not allow crew touch any alchool at all . Crew members must be well aware at all times just in case .Emergencies do happen and all must be ready .With water proximity even swimming pools are dangerous if combined with alchool. They are dangerous even without allchool . Not to mention the vast oceans !
Yes that too ! One more reason to stay alert , alchool free and less vulnerable !
Oh no, my son was so dumb, he thought it is a clever idea to climb drunken around a yacht in the dark. And when the inevitable happens, let's just blame the owner, the lack of unions and the whole yachting "culture" which all had absolutely nothing to do with the accident.
Top quality journalism for sure!
Seeing other yacht crew videos, I'm impressed with how safety conscious they are; safety systems are hi-tech amazing. The sea can be unforgiving, there are risks. Rich people demanding? No really.
The lesson here seems to be that when you're super rich, you get blamed for everything, even your staff members getting drunk and hurting themselves.
Ok so you work really hard to earn a Billion dollars. So did you do it to shop at Dollar general? No you did it to be able to buy what ever you want. And a lot of wealthy people help a lot of less fortunate people.
SPEAR RULER
It's just a shame that other hard working people in this world have Dept. I personally just want to afford the repairs on my house.
Arselicker.
Lol you “work hard” to become a billionaire. Sure that’s exactly how one becomes a billionaire. By working hard. Lofl! Continue toiling your life away, you only need to work harder as boxer used to say...
I wonder how much fuel they consume and how much it costs. And mom while I am sorry for the loss of your beloved son, this wasn't a work-related death. He was tired, got drunk and tried to break into a ship. What could possibly go wrong.....
Sry but the guy got drunk, tried to climb and fell and died.
How is that even yacht-specific? That can happen literally anywhere, where there´s anything that´s high enough.
In nautical cities drunk people fall into the water and drown all the time, same is true here in Baltimore.
Sooooo ok let me get this straight I worked a sidejob yesterday outside in the heat and when I got done wife and I went had dinner and came home. I didnt go party afterwards much less try to crawl all over a yacht. Yes its terrible she lost her son but that was a bad choice on that man's decision to do that. Plus that's why most are young and single they know what kind of job it is and want to go boat around the world.
To put this perspective i worked as an officer on cargo ships, with little glamour and probably lower pay. The maximum time i ever did on duty was around 40 hours and I have known of people working longer! Only did that once, but 18 hours plus were not that uncommon. Modern regs make this illegal but pressures are still there. This was a tragic situation but it was not the owners or captains fault. However it does seem remiss that some gesture of condolence was not offered to his parents.
Lol they're talking about yacht crew imagine the life of maritime shipping crew
😂
0:23 *brain.exe has stopped working*
Drunk or not i wouldnt climb no super yachet for one cozy night sleep, he should of know better, he who climb it himself not forced to its on him, how sad it may be, may he rest in peace
What did she say at 2:08
If employed why was he unable to access the ship?
My condolences but why would you want people at your sons funeral who did not know or care about him?
This is so badly done, it seems like the reporter needed an excuse for a vacation.
Play Stupid Games Win Stupid Prize.
Normally, billionaires have very competent pilots at the helm, but, there are, of course, exceptions! But in the case of this young man falling, it no doubt would NOT have happened if he had not been drunk. You can blame that on NO ONE but the kid himself. A sad accident, but It was NOT the fault of the yacht owner or anyone else, but today, people will sue anyone they think has money in hopes of the case settling for big bucks, because the parties involved do NOT want to go through a lengthy, costly trial. But that is NOT the way it should be!
The offended party (boat owner) no doubt has insurance, and that's exactly why all our insurance premiums are increasing every single year!
The Guardian, manipulating facts and distorting context since 1821.
Can anyone find a commenter agreeing with the mom lol?
Must be nice, I couldn't afford to finance a barrel down a slip-n-slide. so if you got it, hey, whatever floats your boat applies.
💔 That's so unfair that people are calling the individual who died stupid. How rude. My condolences.
They can have their yacht. I am happy with my home, a zutt, pasta bake, & busting some skullz couch co-op style with my mate.
Tons of drugs, alcohol and prostitutes consumed on-board many of the largest yachts, plus the added dangers of the sea and of course there are some rather dangerous owners too. But the crew receive tax free pay and most yachts are overcrewed making life generally quite easy especially when the owner is not aboard (98% of the time)
RIP first guy, but how is that relevant to anything? ....
What people who admire these yachts forget (and they are to be admired they are stunning) is that the owners are usually horrible, arrogant, often corrupt individuals.
I heard about this boy on the news but I didn't know his family was filthy rich...I guess all the money in the world can't save you...Sad!!
There are 2 morals to this story:
1) Stupid is as stupid does.
2) People online are as bad at spelling 'yacht' as they are at spelling 'rogue'.
mywish is to work on one of your documentary videos
They said the yacht was locked up so he must have returned very late. I too lock it down when away from my home port. So why didn't he call a co-worker to let him in I wonder. Seems odd to me the crew entrance was locked considering someone was still not on-board. Something doesn't smell right about this sad story.
Sorry about the lady boy. But a union won't happen. Look at the crew of a cruise ship. They pretty much just go else were for crew and a flag.
_When you see an owner looking at yachts, they're also looking at what it represents, so it represents them._
Wow, quality wisdom right there :/ I thought it represents their neighbour's dog
Why not just charter a really expensive yacht a few times a year? Maybe they want the status of saying they own it. The super rich problems. 🤣
They probably spend enough time on it that it makes more sense to buy it.
Besides the really big yachts don’t deprecate no where near as much as small yachts.
Bro he looked like Logan Paul in that first photo
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No Names of Owners?
Canadian Billionaire Lawrence Stroll.
As if the yacht killed him. This was not written for people who think.
And my wish to punish all those people that not knowing the value of humans.
Al Demir can you punish the Almighty dollar ?
Rishi This Description fits into today's monsters not humans.
The rise of the Bolshevik v2.0
So speak the punisher.
Al Demir liberal idiot
Your son died cause he was drunk and did something stupid... don’t try make the owner look bad for your sons decisions. If he worked a double, probably should have just gone home to sleep instead of going out getting pissed.....
It seems he wasn’t able to gain access to his bunk. Why was the yacht locked up. Something is not right about this story. We all do silly things when we are drunk. The young mans loss of life is very sad. It’s the captain who is responsible for the ship and crew. I thought it was mandatory for someone to be on board at all times.
Eric Littman All the yachts are locked up at 8pm, it’s standard practice. What i’m guessing happened was he was to drunk or forgot the security code or key to get in. Unfortunate but it does happen.
Drifty325i thank you for letting me know. My experience is only from working on a cruise liner. I gather that although the yachts are locked up, the crew still have access via keys or security cards. It seems he made a very stupid decision. There seems to be a deep lack of understanding in the young of how fragile we are. Once again many thanks.
i pay you, you shut your mouth, you do the dirty work, you pay me, i pretend doing your dirty work.
No person should die while working. But this isn't hardship this is choice. If I offer these jobs to people El Salvador, Haiti, South Africa. They would say they made it. This is like any job in the western world. But for some this would be the best job in the world.
Ah, another instance of activism disguised as "journalism".
Really tacky, cheap looking interiors. Really oblivious to climate change and the destruction of habitat in the Mediterranean.
You can put a price on stupid and apparently it's hundreds of millions of pounds.
Yeah, the interiors built to perfection by some of the best craftsmen in the world really makes it look cheap... Dude, u have disco lights in your living room, you don't get to judge.
My living room did not cost several hundred million dollars. LOL!
Also in the same sea as these boats, thousands of people are fleeing climate change and resource depletion and drowning.
But hey, you have fake gold trim around your hot tubs. You're special! LOL
So what? It is not their responsibility as individuals to fix global crisis and political issues. Helping others is voluntary no matter how wealthy you are, and many superyacht owners do. After the hurricanes Harvey, Irma and Maria in the Caribbean, superyachts owners contributed with
147,418 kgs of aid
83,000 meals
48,000 hygiene kits
6,300 tools
1,850 tarpaulins
1,250 water filters
1,000s of volunteers
on 15 islands.
A yacht is a symbol of great personal success in business, and only a small portion of their fortune is spent on this. What they do with the rest of their money you know nothing about, and frankly is none of your business. Do what feels right for you, and let other people do the same.
James Ru **Real gold trim
So good this isn’t a video about an adult making a stupid decision but instead focused on super yachts
I get that owning one of these ships is a statement, and status symbol for the individuals who buy them. I am no where near their level, but I wouldn't spend that kind of money on ships like that.
Personally, I would spend it on a barge type ship the largest I could fund in reasonable terms not bloated because they know I can afford it.
On this barge I would have it made to be a mobile island self sustaining home. It would cost me less than any of these yachts, and I still have all the comfort of home, I can entertain guests, anything I choose.
All while saving myself millions. The reason I do not is I see no point in spending my money on these kinds of items in the first place. I have my home, and my happiness. I am content.
name please Those tasks are the responsibility of the government, and the responsibility of those individuals you are talking about. Not mine.
name please do you do anything better with your life other than troll?
Emperor Master how are any of those tasks the responsibilities of the government? "your" health and welfare = "your" responsibility. Yes there are individuals who have special needs that require special circumstances but other than that the government is not responsible for anything other than governing and defending its people. Social welfare should be privatized and handled at the local level thereby giving maximum benefit with minimal oversight.
name please that is exactly why you will never be wealthy or successful. Good luck with your poverty, hope you like government cheese.
Yoooo did anyone else notice that that first girl he interviewed from the crew didn’t know about ‘Happy Endings’. Hahahahaha can’t be real
So sad !
A locked up yacht is designed to keep intruders out. Blame alcohol not the yacht, the yacht owner or the yacht charterers.
It's not that they caused his death or that he's their victim. It's that his death inconvenienced them. That's narcissism and that's what's eating the world.
His death was an inconvenience to them because he died from doing an act that would obviously result in harm. I get pissed off when young drunk people break their legs and arms after falling over and block the road with their ambulances. That inconveniences me.
My brother nearly died while sailing across the Atlantic Ocean. They travelled from Mallorca and the destination was Antigua. He was on the deck (not wearing his life jacket) and got careless. He grabbed a line, which pulled him overboard. If this would've happened at night, they would have never found him.
I feel sick.
Sebastian Aleksandriytzin about what?
Then take a rest.
I agree that SOMEONE from the yacht is expected to appear at the funeral and convey respect and condolences to the family. Fault and blame are inconsequential to respect.