I am genuinely proud of the work I put into making this video. Spent a long time working on the preliminary edit before sending it over to my man Isaac for the final edit. I hope you enjoy the video and as always, please leave feedback in the comments or through the like-system. I also have a BONUS QUESTION for you: What is meaning of my summoner name "Unbounded Domain"? (There are multiple right answers.) Good answers will get imaginary internet points. Best regards, Petu
Unbounded domains are a subject in pure and applied mathematics, I believe. Which is your area of study. But it can also mean that Petu has UNBOUNDED himself from his DOMAIN as Challenger Shen OTP and is now learning other champions to become an even more complete player, let's gooooo!
every time i see a video from this guy, i feel like is a friend who is talking at me, explaining me things about league of legends that im not aware of or just dont know abt, i mean is so intimate and wholesome in a very good way, thanks xPetu for making me feel this way. (idk y might be is my isolation due covid)
The year is 2022. The date - 01.04. An unsuspecting viewer opens TH-cam. But what is this? xPetu has uploaded a video. The title: "I played Shen for 7 days. Here's what I learned."
This series has been a blast! Really good to know the thought process behind a challenger player learning a new champ, and you make it sound very fun! I'd love to see you give Yone top a try, following the steps of Dzukill
Aatrox Q does not work like Riven Q. It resets the CD at each cast. Great video Petu, I just started learning Riven these last few days and then you release this vid! Love you
How comes I only saw this video now, damn! I remember you telling me about wanting to do a Riven climb and I always wondered if you ever did it. That was fun to watch your journey thoughout this vid!
Your videos genuinely surprise me everytime anew. Your mentality motivates me; brings back that almost "childlike curiosity" and reminds me that I do what I do because I love to, even tho the grind often sucks (outside of League as well!). you are truly an amazing personality. That blathering out of the way there's only one more thing to say: what will you do next?
the edit at 11:05, I don't think I've ever seen such a beautifully concise visual depiction of "practice makes perfect". This is what learning is. We try things and then we see a situation and recognize it based on what we've done already. Great video.
Before maining shen i was plaing riven and couldt teach myself how to do fast q combo and after a year of giving up i finnaly kow how to do it thanks to the beast leauge teacher that walked on this planet. Thank you petu i also recommend you to play Volibear on top for 7 days. you can build pretty much anything on him and hes very fun
You are the best storyteller ever. I just come here to calm my nerfs whenever I'm anxious or can't sleep. You should do voice-overs for documentaries when you're done with league.
Oh boy this is great. I found your channel when first picking up shen, which is a while back. It's great to see your channel growing, because you really deserve it. These new videos are hella entertaining while still being educational - well played!
Was waıtıng for the matchup against shen xD great content as always you actually make lots of your followers who follow you for the shen gameplay (me) better by explaining the win cons and pros and cons \limits of the champs they will face in the toplane
I am loving the series so far and wish we could actually see the games more in depth like some of the Shen games. Especially the later day games, because those would be fun to watch as you've usually spent a good amount of time getting mechanics of the champion down AND we get to see how you limit test in lane, the trade patterns, etc. I also just like watching you play, so maybe I'm bias.
12:45 Aatrox Q cd starts on the latest Q cast, meaning each time you press it, its cooldown goes back to full. This is the opposite of Riven Q, which starts on the very first Q cast.
riven main here. Riven's difficulty doesn't only reside in the mecanics. Mecanics are actually pretty easy to learn, you just need to apply them without making mistakes. It takes some time but it's like, 5% of the work ? As said at 5:07 , it doesn't matter how good you are mecaniquely, if you play against a match up that can just counter you to never let you do your stuff. This is where riven's difficulty truly comes in : *90% of match ups counter riven.* Tanks, ranged, juggernauts, and even a big portion of bruisers, all counter riven. You really need to outplay them and have higher macro / wave management to come out ahead. Abilities like urgot E (dash knock up), Gragas E (dash bump), darius E (grab), quinn E (jump), or just pure statcheck just make you useless. Juggernauts all statcheck riven. Tanks statcheck her with tabis or brumble and a lot of other shit, and just provide more utility for their team no matter how they did in lane. Riven has no sustain and no range whatsoever. Not only auto attacks, but also spells. You have no way to poke the opponent from a safe distance, and no safe gapclosing and disengage. If you want to lower some HP, you need to take risks, while your ennemies can generally poke you down safely. And riven is unforgiving too. You mess up once, game over for you, but your opponents can mess up a ton of times it won't matter much. The only champs I can think of that aren't favoured against riven are jax and irelia, and the latter one I'd say is actually just even. The only way to shine as riven is to really know the match ups. You have to know how to play around these counter abilities, and statcheck champs. You have to know you can never fight a ilaoi with E or darius with grab or urgot with E head on, or you're gonna get stomped very hard. You have to know how to create openings by baiting spells, how long these openings are (know the cooldowns), and how to utilize them. The hardest part being, how to create openings, because that's mostly in your opponent's hands by making mistakes, rather than yours. PS : I was writing the comment before the video ended and I'm glad to see a bunch of the stuff I was saying is said at the end of the video. People tend to overestimate riven's strengths, and be toxic about her, especially about the dashes :'). For all those who think her dashes are OP, go practice mode with riven and buy tier 2 boots and a yuumu. You'll run as fast just with the passive movement speed (without yumuu's active) than when using Qs. Riven's Qs are very short ranged, the E isn't that big too, all those spells are slow, the stun self locks riven in the animation about as long as the stun lasts for the ennemy... 1 of renekton's or LB (and many others) dashes, or 1 garen Q, is more mobility than 3 of riven's Qs, but riven loses all her dmg output by doing this. It takes 3 Qs to get to a fleeing target, and you have no dmg or disengage afterwards. Her strength isn't that either, it's her versatility and nothing else. This is what makes it possible for riven to win any match up, if you play it right (which I guess you could say for any other champ though).
Jax matchup isn't favored for Riven, counterstrike just gimps combo hard. Meanwhile, there are Riven matchups you didn't mention that are favored for her, like Gwen, Camille, Yone and GP, as well as Aatrox, Kayle, Illaoi and Garen to a lesser extent. Fiora is also not a favorable matchup for either side, with it being the premier skill matchup or top lane. Riven is not op and she has a lot of weaknesses, the most obvious of which being the fact if she uses her dashes to gap close she loses them out in her damage output. But you're just going in the opposite extreme of the Redditors bitching about Riven, and vastly downplaying her strengths and match-up spread.
@@shinji136 I kinda agree but disagree with you. I don't think I'm downplaying her strengths and match up coverage : A) match up coverage : A.1) in most of these match ups, if riven makes 1 mistake or gets ganked and gets just a little behind, she gets utterly statchecked and stomped untill it's a permadive if the opponent plays it as he should. A.2) it also depends of what level of gameplay we're talking about : - aatrox fiora : a master+ VS master+ riven is even. Pure skill match up. But the lower you go, the more it goes in the opponent's favour, at equal skill level of both players. - illaoi garen GP are all big counters to riven, sure, riven has some room for counterplay, but the opponent has ways to deny any counterplay and make it very onesided. - Gwen Camille : Both even match ups at any elo. A better riven will beat a worse Gwen/Camille, but the opposite is also true. A Gwen/Camille can statcheck a riven and vice versa, and there's always counters to the counter in these match ups. - Yone : a decent riven will destroy a decent yone. A good riven will struggle against a good yone, if the yone has good spacing especially. It's an even match up if both players know what they're doing, but Yone just has more possibilities to outplay or get leads, and better utility for his team with the R engage. - kayle : I honestly don't know, I usually destroy kayle players but I also not so rarely match up against good kayle players who just beat the shit out of you, she surprisingly statchecks lvl 1 and can secure wave control because of it and either : - get the push and keep statchecking with bigger waves + lvl lead and poke you under tower and win lvl 1,2,3,4, eventually cheat recall to keep a lead and fuck u up if you can't push fast enough, or wait for bounce back to thin down waves from a safe range and set up a freeze - or let you push but poking you down a bunch, setting up a lvl 3 freeze, never letting you crash the wave, and making you vulnerable to ganks - Jax : A good riven beats a good jax. A bad jax beats a bad riven. Only a bad riven would combo into jax's E. Jax' E is the counter spell that makes it hard for riven, yeah, but riven can deny the spell through several means : 1) if jax jumps on you with Q+E, press E+W double cast during his jump, this way, you shield the dmg from Q (+W if he used it too), avoid the stun, don't get hit by a single auto, and are ready to punish with all 3 Qs available while he has nothing left. His E is also a long CD (~16-18s), so you still have a good window to all in again with a full combo for the kill, with no room for an answer on his side. 2) If you're in melee range and jax presses E : - you can always stun, Q away, and press E if he Qs on you to catch up, this way you avoid the stun and your shield tanks Q, then you can punish with Q2/Q3 or your Q CD is shorter and you can full engage him shortly after with his E down - same if you E+W double cast away, +1Q and you're out of his Q range, - when he presses E, you can walk back a little, Q3, walk out of E range, and E+W away if he jumps in with Q, then run him down to punish with your Q low remaining CD from Q extention to all in while his E is down. 3) you can also cancel his Q dash with Q3, it's hard to do but still another, risky outplay possibility. This covers all possibilities, apply this algorithm and jax can never hit E on you. Knowing this, as long as riven has all her spells available, she can always poke jax, even if he has all his, by initiating a classic Q>aa>Q2>aa>Q3>aa combo and stop it the second jax presses E, by disengaging using the algorithm above. She can also try to extend Q, go in with Q3 > aa > W and walk away, E out if jax jumps back in. B) Mobility : her mobility is definitely overestimated and even bad compared to most mobile champs, you can never catch up to an ashe that spams E, an LB, a karma or even a teemo with W. Your engage is very reactable and any CC prevents it, nothing like a yone ult, LB dash in, malph ult or even Darius ghost and grab. Riven's mobility is about the same as sett's Q or garen's Q (without mobility items other than boots) with the addition that you can jump walls. A roaming support with mobis will outrun you for example. Riven's mobility only truly resides in her E, because it's much faster than Q, and her Q3 if she can take a shorter route by jumping a wall. C) W stun lasts 0.75s, the animation is 0.3s long if I recall correctly, it's still a good spell to disrupt the opponent, but not a major crazy CC. I'm not saying it's weak there, but that it's definitely not strong. D) Versatility : Don't get me wrong, I still think Riven's a good champ, just not a broken one like a lot of people think. I believe her versatility is her real strength. The way I see it, each of Riven's spells are smaller subdivisions than spells usually are, if you count her Q as 3 smaller spells, it's as if she had a total of 6 spells : 5 little spells and an ult, with low cooldowns to juggle between each. This makes for more possibilities than your typical 3 spell or 2 spells + 1 passive spell champs, who generally also have more impactfull spells, but on longer cooldowns. And Riven's spells combine in different ways with different mechanics, like double casting with E>W+Q or E+W or E+R, or the possibility to Q on a target or on the ground. With the amount of possibilities and combinations Riven has, there's ways to surprise your opponents by choosing a possibility they don't expect, and that's Riven's strength I believe.
Im glad I came across this Im learning riven right now and am right where you were. Have yet to dominate a game and feel like I have control i just wish top lane wasn’t what it is. I too main jungle i just wish she was more viable somewhere else to learn.
Keep it up Petu, great video. I picked up Shen because of you a while ago and I hold a 55% wr on him which is a nice change of pace from playing Cho'gath in ranked only. If you don't mind I would recommend you try out Cho for a video like this sometime. I feel like people don't understand what he's fully capable of I think he's stronger than most people make him out to be. Thanks again for the great content.
Hi I'm petu, after reaching challenger on my shen main account I decided to challenge myself even further... Love this intro I say it every game I play as SHEN ❤️❤️👌
Everytime petu does a training montage i am always looking for that moment where he slowly blossoms into his true godlike form on the champ he is practicing. He never disappoints
Riven is actually one of the most difficult and most rewarding champions too learn properly. Her combos takes practice(yes she has some quite complicated ones) and game knowledge. Shes really fun and amazing when you understand her and her matchups.
This series is so op, im so hyped for the next episode May we see later on an Illaoi or Quinn, either the kraken or bird lady for over a 7 day challange? :) sage master Petu sensei
Holy shit man this is some next level content. League video with a story.. Awesome work man, looking forward for next videos from this series, its my favourite! Would love u to see you in midlane
Petu!!! Please try kindred!! I feel like she has this simplicity at face value but I think there’s a lot more depth to her with her mark management, and her q vertical mobility and then the e and w management. I play her but I’m only in bronze, I’ve never seen someone play her at the lower ranks so I feel like there’s a reason for that
the q extention is really powerful, with the passive stacks being maintained and also your cc off q 3 being much closer to your next cast of q 1 you can stack your q on minions or anywhere then take the q 3 in and be much more able to win a fight as your main damage ability is significantly closer to being back up. Side note: Aatrox q actually restarts its cd on each q cast, so while letting your q expire instead of casting all three lowers the cd, waiting the full duration of your q doesn't change the time from your q 3 to q 1.
xPetu I love this series so much! Its always fun to see someone so good at a champ meme around with another and see how they play it at first compared to how they play after practice x). I can't wait for the next video, please try playing Aatrox for a week?
Aatrox Q and Riven Q work differently. Riven Q cooldown begins after the first Q is casted Aatrox Q cooldown works based off the last Q that was casted, so everytime you cast Q it resets the cooldown.
Ty for the experiment, I have a riven dawn bringer skin but never play her because I am too bad at her, but this vid gave me motivation lol, Keep it up
Sorry Petu, you have to flame everyone, ff at 15 if you're not ahead and ragequit if you get to the 0/3 mark to be considered a true Riven Main. You still have a long way to go
I am genuinely proud of the work I put into making this video. Spent a long time working on the preliminary edit before sending it over to my man Isaac for the final edit. I hope you enjoy the video and as always, please leave feedback in the comments or through the like-system. I also have a BONUS QUESTION for you: What is meaning of my summoner name "Unbounded Domain"? (There are multiple right answers.) Good answers will get imaginary internet points. Best regards, Petu
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Unbounded domains are a subject in pure and applied mathematics, I believe. Which is your area of study.
But it can also mean that Petu has UNBOUNDED himself from his DOMAIN as Challenger Shen OTP and is now learning other champions to become an even more complete player, let's gooooo!
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Domain can be used sexually
Un in French means one
One bounded domain + pet = Something that I don't want to investigate further
It could mean that you are no longer bound to playing your comfort pick and playing different champions that are outside your comfort zone. (Maybe
Can you try Akali? Another very mechanical champ you might like for an ap option
Played Shen as my first champ previous year, searched up guides on how to play him, got to this channel and never left. Great teacher
I think you meant “Shensei”
Mans spitting facts. Petu is shensei
we definetely need a professor shen skin so that our shensei can look like a shensei
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This series is so good, I'm hyped for the video
every time i see a video from this guy, i feel like is a friend who is talking at me, explaining me things about league of legends that im not aware of or just dont know abt, i mean is so intimate and wholesome in a very good way, thanks xPetu for making me feel this way. (idk y might be is my isolation due covid)
The year is 2022. The date - 01.04. An unsuspecting viewer opens TH-cam. But what is this? xPetu has uploaded a video. The title: "I played Shen for 7 days. Here's what I learned."
That transition in the training montage from practice tool to a real game. Top notch editing! 👌
how hype was that training montage though where we performs the red buff hop successfully and was
in a real game!!!
I'm loving these series with how much I learn from them. It helps me expand my champ pool.
This series has been a blast! Really good to know the thought process behind a challenger player learning a new champ, and you make it sound very fun!
I'd love to see you give Yone top a try, following the steps of Dzukill
Yes! THANK you so much for this, you were my first teacher as a content creator and I'll always follow :D
Aatrox Q does not work like Riven Q. It resets the CD at each cast. Great video Petu, I just started learning Riven these last few days and then you release this vid! Love you
Yeah but holding your Qs leaves a smaller opening
@@Ar4g0rno idk what you mean by that
@@Ar4g0rno late to the party here, no it doesn't
How comes I only saw this video now, damn! I remember you telling me about wanting to do a Riven climb and I always wondered if you ever did it. That was fun to watch your journey thoughout this vid!
Idk what people say, from now on I'm calling you "xPetu Shensei"
Your videos genuinely surprise me everytime anew. Your mentality motivates me; brings back that almost "childlike curiosity" and reminds me that I do what I do because I love to, even tho the grind often sucks (outside of League as well!). you are truly an amazing personality.
That blathering out of the way there's only one more thing to say: what will you do next?
the edit at 11:05, I don't think I've ever seen such a beautifully concise visual depiction of "practice makes perfect". This is what learning is. We try things and then we see a situation and recognize it based on what we've done already.
Great video.
Before maining shen i was plaing riven and couldt teach myself how to do fast q combo and after a year of giving up i finnaly kow how to do it thanks to the beast leauge teacher that walked on this planet. Thank you petu
i also recommend you to play Volibear on top for 7 days. you can build pretty much anything on him and hes very fun
New petu video always makes my Wednesday/Thursday better
Great video man, was a really nice watch!
The man, the myth, the legend... the parallel screen on the wall jump in the training montage was just epic, totally epic.
You are the best storyteller ever. I just come here to calm my nerfs whenever I'm anxious or can't sleep. You should do voice-overs for documentaries when you're done with league.
Didn't even need to watch the video before I liked, I am Riven main, I was hoping for this since I saw your other champions in this series
Oh boy this is great. I found your channel when first picking up shen, which is a while back. It's great to see your channel growing, because you really deserve it. These new videos are hella entertaining while still being educational - well played!
i loved the story telling on this, really enjoyed getting reminded of the experience of learning riven for the first time
Mister Petu always delivers bangers
I am so happy you gave riven a try, I really like playing with her and she’s very rewarding
too much rewarding in this meta tbh
@@PaladineAvenger1 in every meta.
You like playing with her? 😏
too little rewarding rn
too little rewarding rn@@PaladineAvenger1
Your vids always have that nice production. Props to you keep it up!
Started playing shen because I thought he looked cool but I found so many different ways to play him and builds to use through you. Your the best man
Was waıtıng for the matchup against shen xD great content as always
you actually make lots of your followers who follow you for the shen gameplay (me) better by explaining the win cons and pros and cons \limits of the champs they will face in the toplane
It is a true pleasure to watch your vids, Petu. Hakkaa päälle!
I am loving the series so far and wish we could actually see the games more in depth like some of the Shen games. Especially the later day games, because those would be fun to watch as you've usually spent a good amount of time getting mechanics of the champion down AND we get to see how you limit test in lane, the trade patterns, etc. I also just like watching you play, so maybe I'm bias.
Looking forward for my working meeting to end to watch the video! Amazing series! xD
Damn so good vid! The training montage got me goosebumps at 11:05 with the cool training montage and finally pulling it off in a game
Waited so long for next episode of "Here's what I learned" series. Good vid keep it up. ^^
11:04 That was SO cool! Your videos make me want to play right away. You're the best toplaner!!!
12:45 Aatrox Q cd starts on the latest Q cast, meaning each time you press it, its cooldown goes back to full. This is the opposite of Riven Q, which starts on the very first Q cast.
riven main here. Riven's difficulty doesn't only reside in the mecanics. Mecanics are actually pretty easy to learn, you just need to apply them without making mistakes. It takes some time but it's like, 5% of the work ? As said at 5:07 , it doesn't matter how good you are mecaniquely, if you play against a match up that can just counter you to never let you do your stuff.
This is where riven's difficulty truly comes in : *90% of match ups counter riven.* Tanks, ranged, juggernauts, and even a big portion of bruisers, all counter riven. You really need to outplay them and have higher macro / wave management to come out ahead. Abilities like urgot E (dash knock up), Gragas E (dash bump), darius E (grab), quinn E (jump), or just pure statcheck just make you useless. Juggernauts all statcheck riven. Tanks statcheck her with tabis or brumble and a lot of other shit, and just provide more utility for their team no matter how they did in lane. Riven has no sustain and no range whatsoever. Not only auto attacks, but also spells. You have no way to poke the opponent from a safe distance, and no safe gapclosing and disengage. If you want to lower some HP, you need to take risks, while your ennemies can generally poke you down safely. And riven is unforgiving too. You mess up once, game over for you, but your opponents can mess up a ton of times it won't matter much. The only champs I can think of that aren't favoured against riven are jax and irelia, and the latter one I'd say is actually just even.
The only way to shine as riven is to really know the match ups. You have to know how to play around these counter abilities, and statcheck champs. You have to know you can never fight a ilaoi with E or darius with grab or urgot with E head on, or you're gonna get stomped very hard. You have to know how to create openings by baiting spells, how long these openings are (know the cooldowns), and how to utilize them. The hardest part being, how to create openings, because that's mostly in your opponent's hands by making mistakes, rather than yours.
PS : I was writing the comment before the video ended and I'm glad to see a bunch of the stuff I was saying is said at the end of the video. People tend to overestimate riven's strengths, and be toxic about her, especially about the dashes :'). For all those who think her dashes are OP, go practice mode with riven and buy tier 2 boots and a yuumu. You'll run as fast just with the passive movement speed (without yumuu's active) than when using Qs. Riven's Qs are very short ranged, the E isn't that big too, all those spells are slow, the stun self locks riven in the animation about as long as the stun lasts for the ennemy... 1 of renekton's or LB (and many others) dashes, or 1 garen Q, is more mobility than 3 of riven's Qs, but riven loses all her dmg output by doing this. It takes 3 Qs to get to a fleeing target, and you have no dmg or disengage afterwards. Her strength isn't that either, it's her versatility and nothing else. This is what makes it possible for riven to win any match up, if you play it right (which I guess you could say for any other champ though).
Jax matchup isn't favored for Riven, counterstrike just gimps combo hard. Meanwhile, there are Riven matchups you didn't mention that are favored for her, like Gwen, Camille, Yone and GP, as well as Aatrox, Kayle, Illaoi and Garen to a lesser extent. Fiora is also not a favorable matchup for either side, with it being the premier skill matchup or top lane.
Riven is not op and she has a lot of weaknesses, the most obvious of which being the fact if she uses her dashes to gap close she loses them out in her damage output. But you're just going in the opposite extreme of the Redditors bitching about Riven, and vastly downplaying her strengths and match-up spread.
@@shinji136 I kinda agree but disagree with you. I don't think I'm downplaying her strengths and match up coverage :
A) match up coverage :
A.1) in most of these match ups, if riven makes 1 mistake or gets ganked and gets just a little behind, she gets utterly statchecked and stomped untill it's a permadive if the opponent plays it as he should.
A.2) it also depends of what level of gameplay we're talking about :
- aatrox fiora : a master+ VS master+ riven is even. Pure skill match up. But the lower you go, the more it goes in the opponent's favour, at equal skill level of both players.
- illaoi garen GP are all big counters to riven, sure, riven has some room for counterplay, but the opponent has ways to deny any counterplay and make it very onesided.
- Gwen Camille : Both even match ups at any elo. A better riven will beat a worse Gwen/Camille, but the opposite is also true. A Gwen/Camille can statcheck a riven and vice versa, and there's always counters to the counter in these match ups.
- Yone : a decent riven will destroy a decent yone. A good riven will struggle against a good yone, if the yone has good spacing especially. It's an even match up if both players know what they're doing, but Yone just has more possibilities to outplay or get leads, and better utility for his team with the R engage.
- kayle : I honestly don't know, I usually destroy kayle players but I also not so rarely match up against good kayle players who just beat the shit out of you, she surprisingly statchecks lvl 1 and can secure wave control because of it and either :
- get the push and keep statchecking with bigger waves + lvl lead and poke you under tower and win lvl 1,2,3,4, eventually cheat recall to keep a lead and fuck u up if you can't push fast enough, or wait for bounce back to thin down waves from a safe range and set up a freeze
- or let you push but poking you down a bunch, setting up a lvl 3 freeze, never letting you crash the wave, and making you vulnerable to ganks
- Jax : A good riven beats a good jax. A bad jax beats a bad riven. Only a bad riven would combo into jax's E.
Jax' E is the counter spell that makes it hard for riven, yeah, but riven can deny the spell through several means :
1) if jax jumps on you with Q+E, press E+W double cast during his jump, this way, you shield the dmg from Q (+W if he used it too), avoid the stun, don't get hit by a single auto, and are ready to punish with all 3 Qs available while he has nothing left. His E is also a long CD (~16-18s), so you still have a good window to all in again with a full combo for the kill, with no room for an answer on his side.
2) If you're in melee range and jax presses E :
- you can always stun, Q away, and press E if he Qs on you to catch up, this way you avoid the stun and your shield tanks Q, then you can punish with Q2/Q3 or your Q CD is shorter and you can full engage him shortly after with his E down
- same if you E+W double cast away, +1Q and you're out of his Q range,
- when he presses E, you can walk back a little, Q3, walk out of E range, and E+W away if he jumps in with Q, then run him down to punish with your Q low remaining CD from Q extention to all in while his E is down.
3) you can also cancel his Q dash with Q3, it's hard to do but still another, risky outplay possibility.
This covers all possibilities, apply this algorithm and jax can never hit E on you.
Knowing this, as long as riven has all her spells available, she can always poke jax, even if he has all his, by initiating a classic Q>aa>Q2>aa>Q3>aa combo and stop it the second jax presses E, by disengaging using the algorithm above. She can also try to extend Q, go in with Q3 > aa > W and walk away, E out if jax jumps back in.
B) Mobility : her mobility is definitely overestimated and even bad compared to most mobile champs, you can never catch up to an ashe that spams E, an LB, a karma or even a teemo with W. Your engage is very reactable and any CC prevents it, nothing like a yone ult, LB dash in, malph ult or even Darius ghost and grab. Riven's mobility is about the same as sett's Q or garen's Q (without mobility items other than boots) with the addition that you can jump walls. A roaming support with mobis will outrun you for example. Riven's mobility only truly resides in her E, because it's much faster than Q, and her Q3 if she can take a shorter route by jumping a wall.
C) W stun lasts 0.75s, the animation is 0.3s long if I recall correctly, it's still a good spell to disrupt the opponent, but not a major crazy CC. I'm not saying it's weak there, but that it's definitely not strong.
D) Versatility :
Don't get me wrong, I still think Riven's a good champ, just not a broken one like a lot of people think. I believe her versatility is her real strength. The way I see it, each of Riven's spells are smaller subdivisions than spells usually are, if you count her Q as 3 smaller spells, it's as if she had a total of 6 spells : 5 little spells and an ult, with low cooldowns to juggle between each. This makes for more possibilities than your typical 3 spell or 2 spells + 1 passive spell champs, who generally also have more impactfull spells, but on longer cooldowns. And Riven's spells combine in different ways with different mechanics, like double casting with E>W+Q or E+W or E+R, or the possibility to Q on a target or on the ground. With the amount of possibilities and combinations Riven has, there's ways to surprise your opponents by choosing a possibility they don't expect, and that's Riven's strength I believe.
This is just really good man! TOP NOTCH CONTENT!
Good video, it showed me somethings that I only learned before months playing with the champ. Keep with your good content mate!
Thank you Petu, I've only played shen few times but your still a great teacher to me , the concepts and mindset transcend elo and champions
Man you put so much love in making this videos, thats just amazing, i love your vids man keep up with the insane job
Im glad I came across this Im learning riven right now and am right where you were. Have yet to dominate a game and feel like I have control i just wish top lane wasn’t what it is. I too main jungle i just wish she was more viable somewhere else to learn.
Keep it up Petu, great video. I picked up Shen because of you a while ago and I hold a 55% wr on him which is a nice change of pace from playing Cho'gath in ranked only. If you don't mind I would recommend you try out Cho for a video like this sometime. I feel like people don't understand what he's fully capable of I think he's stronger than most people make him out to be. Thanks again for the great content.
Hi I'm petu, after reaching challenger on my shen main account I decided to challenge myself even further... Love this intro I say it every game I play as SHEN ❤️❤️👌
Everytime petu does a training montage i am always looking for that moment where he slowly blossoms into his true godlike form on the champ he is practicing. He never disappoints
Riven is actually one of the most difficult and most rewarding champions too learn properly. Her combos takes practice(yes she has some quite complicated ones) and game knowledge. Shes really fun and amazing when you understand her and her matchups.
This series is so op, im so hyped for the next episode
May we see later on an Illaoi or Quinn, either the kraken or bird lady for over a 7 day challange? :) sage master Petu sensei
If he can, xPetu should shout out Dirtymobs, the rank 1 Illaoi in NA and in the world.
The videos of this series excite me a lot, it is inspiring to see how quickly a champion of such difficulty can be learned, you are my idol
5:27 hahaha gragas again bouncing in you it's hilarious xD you're nemesis on the 7 day journey
I've been waiting for this all my life.
Holy shit man this is some next level content. League video with a story.. Awesome work man, looking forward for next videos from this series, its my favourite! Would love u to see you in midlane
Petu!!! Please try kindred!! I feel like she has this simplicity at face value but I think there’s a lot more depth to her with her mark management, and her q vertical mobility and then the e and w management. I play her but I’m only in bronze, I’ve never seen someone play her at the lower ranks so I feel like there’s a reason for that
So great job xPetu!
Congrats for the evolution and for the video!
the q extention is really powerful, with the passive stacks being maintained and also your cc off q 3 being much closer to your next cast of q 1 you can stack your q on minions or anywhere then take the q 3 in and be much more able to win a fight as your main damage ability is significantly closer to being back up.
Side note: Aatrox q actually restarts its cd on each q cast, so while letting your q expire instead of casting all three lowers the cd, waiting the full duration of your q doesn't change the time from your q 3 to q 1.
xPetu I love this series so much! Its always fun to see someone so good at a champ meme around with another and see how they play it at first compared to how they play after practice x). I can't wait for the next video, please try playing Aatrox for a week?
dude ur vid actualy gave me flashbacks to the time i was trying to pick up Riven :)
I would love to see a montage or a guide from you for either jayce or zed if you feel like it
You are basically the finnish version of morgan freeman. Excellent story telling ability sir. *golfclap*
You got my mad respect in this great content series.
When can we expect you to voice a Nat Geo documentary?? LMAO I love your content
Always love videos like this. No clickbait and just amazing content. Petu for your next 7 days video pick something off-meta, like Kindred top :)
Dude, this was hilarious... it was like a morgan freeman voiceover ahahahahaha
Beautiful Training Montage!!
This series is amazing, gangplank next!! And doing a series on Shen jungle ONLY to see how far you can go would be insane
its like listening to a good tedtalk of riven
Gangplank would be a great video as well
Also aatrox I want to see your reaction to how healing reduction just destroys you completely
I would be very interested in watching more jungle games on your channel
Aatrox Q and Riven Q work differently.
Riven Q cooldown begins after the first Q is casted
Aatrox Q cooldown works based off the last Q that was casted, so everytime you cast Q it resets the cooldown.
Ty for the experiment, I have a riven dawn bringer skin but never play her because I am too bad at her, but this vid gave me motivation lol, Keep it up
Seeing you play riven makes me want to play it and int every single game, thanks petu, get my like un return
AYO, i was the evelynn in that game 7:40! love your content, didnt even realize
The best content creator by far!
15:28 the upcoming self cringe was incredibly delicious omfg
keep the forbidden technology coming master xPetu
youre the best bro! with youre help i touch platinum and going for diamond
This was a great video, I love this serie kep it up petu much love
aye love the content hope you can get some big money on youtube boy
The difference between a good riven and a bad riven is how well they can dance. That q extension is sometimes called Q-dancing.
this vídeo was very good. i love it, i learn so many things with you
Omg, that training compilation was inspiring
yoooooooo this real banger love this one thanks alot shensei
u did used music type like if i've watched a Riven's fascinating fantasy Journey, god sense
such a good series i am always excited for these videos petu :)
From a colleague scientist, I suggest you try a 7 days of Jayce - he is, after all, the very embodiment of the genius with chad tech.
Keep the Series coming shensei
Continuing the series!?!? Love to see it!
13:14 reverse tp technology
incredible video, as always !
Sorry Petu, you have to flame everyone, ff at 15 if you're not ahead and ragequit if you get to the 0/3 mark to be considered a true Riven Main. You still have a long way to go
This was a really great video and very educational. Could you maybe make a video similiar to this one but with GP?
This is a nice series, you should try Shen for 7 days, that's a good champ.
11:00 This transition is gold
GG PRO RIVEN ALERT
I would love to see you play Irelia or Gangplank next!
Wow, this is better than Avengers movies!!! Salve from Brasil xPetu ;)
I main Shen and riven and I feel so excited to see this video
I suggest you try Gankplank next. It's a very unique and hard champ to master.
xPetu started video as arrogant and ended as humble.
also..............topnotch training montage. that was just sooooooo.....accurate 😆😎👌👍
LOVE THIS! GOOD JOB!
Make more of these series, and you'll reach 1 million easally!
Love you and everything you do!!