@@the_ogre_lord5654 Steroids don't masculinize the face. In utero the womans testosterone levels masculinize the fetus but in adulthood the main thing that "masculinizes" the face is growth hormone.
You can't tell if the other guy is natural just by the way he looks compared to the other more obvious guy. 285 lbs and no big gut is still a bit out there. Some guys just look like crap compared to others even if they are on the juice.
@@3secondsago894 Spots on back means nothing honestly but I agree with you he looks like he's on roids, I judge it by the puffed up face and bicep / tricep definition
@@spencerk3506 Can't find an official weight online other than 285, so lets say he's 220. Going from 113 lbs to 220 in under 4 years ain't all puberty. cause yeah he wrestled at 113 also.
It’s sad that there allowing these wrestler take what they say is legal substance to gain weight. Unhealthy for the wrestler in a long run and disadvantage for them and the opponent. Sad a blind eye is turning away unless its a minority
@@TheBuckeyeBusinessman are u guys stupid he obviously cut down on the fat and the muscle was already their he cut then leaN bulked back to where he is goofys
@@clashofclans5317 dude you are not going to go from 155 to 285 in muscle in just three years, he's literally roiding and it's very obvious. It's physically impossible to do that.
Did anyone pay attention to what the commentators were saying. The guy in the orange competed at 152 in spring of 2019. That's why there is a size discrepeancy.
Who cares? Steroids don't just magically make you some freak athlete. I guarantee you could take the shit he's on and still not be NEARLY the wrestler he is.
@@Dobiant You are talking to a guy on the internet. At the heighest level sports are a game of inches, PED will give you a huge advantage in a bunch of ways, especially in a sport like wrestling
Big Tony has changed so much from his sophomore years. He was a big chubby lad with brute force, now he's built like a house. How the hell did he transform himself so quickly. Plus for those of you wondering how the two are even on the same division; well the NCAA weight limit is kinda weird cuz you don't have a lot of heavyweights competing at the collegiate level. It jumps from 197lbs to 285 instantly. Kyle Snyder, who probably walks around at 230, competed in the 285 category as well.
Y’all I ain’t gonna cap I think Cass might be natty. Cassiopeia looks big but bro was big chonk like 2 years ago. It’s entirely possible that he j cut and maingained to like a mean 235-240. No way is Cass 285 here. He looks so big because he’s decently lean from wrestling all the time, plus this guy he’s wrestling looks like maybe 200-215. The bacne is honestly really common. I had it super bad because some people r j mad sweaty. I can def see how it looks sus tho
He cut 40lbs. I get how u can see that but I genuinely don’t think so. He’s not even that lean for 230. Yeah he has bacne but bro is a sweaty man. That shit pops up like crazy if ur rlly sweaty, trust me, I wrestle too. He also looks like he has a few moles, and seeing as he has fair skin, that cld be a reasonable assumption. If any person loses 40 pounds, they’d look pretty cut too
Cassioppi has a WWE level physique, but no way he went from how he looked before to this without chemical help. Might say otherwise if he hadn't already been an elite level before, but you're going to tell me he just wasn't using proper form or mixing his protein shakes right?
@@HoldenCoughfield Hey, correction, it's possible, but if he put on muscle mass while cutting, I think he's sauced, considering he had already been an elite level wrestler. I don't underestimate the power of hard work and genetics, just having the same genetics and already working hard as hell then having a transformation like this. Without a clean side-by-side photo, it's hard to say just suspicious. If he just cut without sauce, good for him. He's a beast either way.
@@michaellopez2070 it's just hard fore to jump to that when he was a fat guy. Looks entirely possible to be natty and take lifting and nutrition seriously when he was a bigger fat guy to begin with. Not that there aren't probably a bunch of dudes on roids at the top of d1 wrestling.
I went to High school with Surber. As a freshman he was 113, sophomore 132, junior 152, and his senior year he was 182. In college his freshman year he went 197, and finally this year he went HWT but only weighs 225. A lot of people have been getting really confused about this due to the commentary
Come naysayers. Cassioppi has a pretty darn good pedigree. 100-0 junior and senior year HS>.What's wrong w/him justing working his butt off. 2 younger sisters IL HS state champions. Rose C currently working out at Olympic Camp.
Referring to comments on his weight gain - Not all kids, 17-22, develop early...I've known athletes in this age range that gained 40lbs-50lbs of good weight naturally between seasons. That's why so many boxers, wrestlers, etc., move up in weight class as they mature...especially if they start at 17-22. Many still are maturing. He may be on something, when probably 90% of ALL athletes between high school to college experiment with some sort of muscle gaining concoction - whether legal or illegal according to the NCAA. Most likely, even your favorite wrestler, boxer or MMA person has at one time probably taken something that's banned from their sport...baseball is notorious for that.
It’s disturbing the amount of people that don’t realize basically ALL of these collegiate athletes are on steroids ofc there are definitely people who aren’t but it’s just painfully obvious how little the public knows about the matter
@@mzzsoldier25yearsago65 dude stop saying he just 'cut weight' you can't gain 130 pounds of muscle in three years. His physique is very obviously not natural, he has a ton of acne on his shoulders and back. He is very obviously on gear.
idk this guy, but i think this physique is achievable naturally tbh. hes pretty fat rn so probably just got off a bulk. and his delts aren't popping as much as most people on gear
at first they were showing Cassioppi and saying Serber was 152 3 years ago... and I'm thinking they were talking about dude in black and i'm thinking NO WAY IN HELL....then realized it was the other guy and OK i can see that. but going from 152 to HULK HELLLLL NAH lol
Luke obviously has gained muscle but is carrying on him a lot more fat and I'm not sure how tall he is but depending he is probably somewhere around 210 to 230 depending and other dude is just a mass of meat, I guarantee neither of them are quite 285 but the Iowa guy is quite a lot closer
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He’s on some good gear
Miiiild bacne.
@@the_ogre_lord5654 Steroids don't masculinize the face. In utero the womans testosterone levels masculinize the fetus but in adulthood the main thing that "masculinizes" the face is growth hormone.
@@the_ogre_lord5654 I believe in the video they said in 2019 he was wrestling at 152 lbs. So 3 years if this video was filmed and released. this year.
NAH he just eats a lot of horse meat he said he wanted to make sure he stayed natty for when he makes his wwe debut
@@user-vz2sy7tx3w Come on dude, his back it's covered in steroid pimples
The giveaway is the neck, shoulders, and of course the bacne. Salute to the natural guy going toe to toe with the science experiment👏
Like most high level athletes
hes definetly on gear but sometimes the bacne doesnt tell it all, i have bacne since i remember and i never got into anything
You can't tell if the other guy is natural just by the way he looks compared to the other more obvious guy. 285 lbs and no big gut is still a bit out there. Some guys just look like crap compared to others even if they are on the juice.
@@RJavier007 College?
@@TiagoSilva-rv2ws On your hamstrings , quads and calves?
Came to watch some wrestling, stayed to wonder how the hell this kid passed any drug tests.
His dad is a scientist and makes his own undetectable steroid version
came to watch wrestling, saw guys back, decided to check the comments.
"may the juice be with you" is what his coach said before the match.
He’s definitely got a good gaming chair
lmao caught me off guard
Cassiopi looks A WHOLE WEIGHT CLASS bigger than his opponent.
More than a weight class, Surber doesn't look like a filled out 197lber. Looks closer to a 184lber.
Looks like Surber wrestled at 197 in 2021. Cassioppi 285 since at least 2019.
roids look at the spots on his back
@@3secondsago894 Spots on back means nothing honestly but I agree with you he looks like he's on roids, I judge it by the puffed up face and bicep / tricep definition
@@mmajedi5265 Bone head. Do five minutes of research. He was 265 as a high school junior and works hard and eats right.
are we supposed to believe this guy is natural? like wtf lol
Yes
Neither of these guys are tbh a lot of high level athletes are roided
Cassioppi sipping on that Capri Sun: how poor must the PED testing be?
Non existent
Yeah but the other guy gained 133 lbs in 3 years... So who is on the PEDS?
Surber doesn’t weight 285. That’s just the weight class he is wrestling in
@@spencerk3506 Can't find an official weight online other than 285, so lets say he's 220. Going from 113 lbs to 220 in under 4 years ain't all puberty. cause yeah he wrestled at 113 also.
@@Shinobi-tp3yq both obviously
6:06 Conor McGregor in the back trying to pick up a few wrestling tricks.
This is the most funTo watch heavyweight division I’ve ever seen
heavy weights are putting on a show!
It’s sad that there allowing these wrestler take what they say is legal substance to gain weight. Unhealthy for the wrestler in a long run and disadvantage for them and the opponent. Sad a blind eye is turning away unless its a minority
@@michaellindsey3682 you’re just talking to talk 💀
I would love to know what Cassiopi did to transform like that. He looks unbelievable this season. I wonder if he discovered steroids?
Look at the acne on his shoulders. Tell tell sign of steroids
More specifically he’s in testosterone’s, can spot that easily.
@@TheBuckeyeBusinessman are u guys stupid he obviously cut down on the fat and the muscle was already their he cut then leaN bulked back to where he is goofys
@@clashofclans5317 dude you are not going to go from 155 to 285 in muscle in just three years, he's literally roiding and it's very obvious. It's physically impossible to do that.
Wrestling and steroids? Get outta here!
They’ll probably be on different sides of the bracket at big 10s but I really wanna see that Paris rematch.
There's no way there both in the same weight class. Cassiopi looks like a whole leg cramp out there
This shit got me crying bro😂
and neither of them look like theyre 285 fuckin pounds lol, I would've said surber was 185 if anything
@@CoolDrifty more 195 tbh
Did anyone pay attention to what the commentators were saying. The guy in the orange competed at 152 in spring of 2019. That's why there is a size discrepeancy.
@@ethiopianphenomenon6574 but this is a 285lb match. Yes he was 150 back then but he’s 285 now
Man has the best multi and protein shakes available. Would love to see more plates more dates do breakdown lmao
0:25 “only loss was to gable steveson”
false. y’all forgot he got stuck by the kid from princeton?
they said it at least 3 other times later in the match stop being so damn salty
@@legattacks sorry buddy, it’s my duty to hate on iowa lol
@@alovesupreme L
no way steroids are involved here....
Hater
Who cares? Steroids don't just magically make you some freak athlete. I guarantee you could take the shit he's on and still not be NEARLY the wrestler he is.
@@Dobiant You are talking to a guy on the internet. At the heighest level sports are a game of inches, PED will give you a huge advantage in a bunch of ways, especially in a sport like wrestling
This is the most intense tickle fight I've ever seen!
Thanks Nich
Hahaha classic
Big Tony has changed so much from his sophomore years. He was a big chubby lad with brute force, now he's built like a house. How the hell did he transform himself so quickly.
Plus for those of you wondering how the two are even on the same division; well the NCAA weight limit is kinda weird cuz you don't have a lot of heavyweights competing at the collegiate level. It jumps from 197lbs to 285 instantly. Kyle Snyder, who probably walks around at 230, competed in the 285 category as well.
Roids, probably
This is obviously roids.
Snyder is on steroids as well
Y’all I ain’t gonna cap I think Cass might be natty. Cassiopeia looks big but bro was big chonk like 2 years ago. It’s entirely possible that he j cut and maingained to like a mean 235-240. No way is Cass 285 here. He looks so big because he’s decently lean from wrestling all the time, plus this guy he’s wrestling looks like maybe 200-215. The bacne is honestly really common. I had it super bad because some people r j mad sweaty. I can def see how it looks sus tho
Dude in black in juicing big time. apart from the muscles, All that body acne is a giveaway
He cut 40lbs. I get how u can see that but I genuinely don’t think so. He’s not even that lean for 230. Yeah he has bacne but bro is a sweaty man. That shit pops up like crazy if ur rlly sweaty, trust me, I wrestle too. He also looks like he has a few moles, and seeing as he has fair skin, that cld be a reasonable assumption. If any person loses 40 pounds, they’d look pretty cut too
Check out his match against Gable Steveson last year. He looks like the Pillsbury Dough boy now he is the Rock.
The mat sounds are like WWE.
Surber did okay for someone who was wrestling at lightweight a few months ago. It’s hard to wrestle people heavier than you it really is.
I still don’t understand how wrestling is scored
nice outbreak on his back 🤔
What's an outbreak
@@trainmanification he means acne
МОЛОДЦЫ !!!!
thank you
Cassioppi's two little sisters won state titles this year as well
Cassioppi has a WWE level physique, but no way he went from how he looked before to this without chemical help. Might say otherwise if he hadn't already been an elite level before, but you're going to tell me he just wasn't using proper form or mixing his protein shakes right?
Dude… he cut really hard and it showed the muscle.. he already had the base built.
What? Dude just cut weight. That's just leaning out when you already have muscle.
@@HoldenCoughfield Hey, correction, it's possible, but if he put on muscle mass while cutting, I think he's sauced, considering he had already been an elite level wrestler. I don't underestimate the power of hard work and genetics, just having the same genetics and already working hard as hell then having a transformation like this. Without a clean side-by-side photo, it's hard to say just suspicious. If he just cut without sauce, good for him. He's a beast either way.
Dudes definitely juiced up, bacne is a dead give away.
@@michaellopez2070 it's just hard fore to jump to that when he was a fat guy. Looks entirely possible to be natty and take lifting and nutrition seriously when he was a bigger fat guy to begin with. Not that there aren't probably a bunch of dudes on roids at the top of d1 wrestling.
how are you comfortable competing openly like that with those cysts on your back lmao
Luke the juicer
He on some good shit
Surber moved up from 155 to to HW to step up for the team? Jesus man.
Nah that’s what he is. He was 152 in highschool and that was with really bad weight cutting
dont open your mouth dude its sad
I went to High school with Surber. As a freshman he was 113, sophomore 132, junior 152, and his senior year he was 182. In college his freshman year he went 197, and finally this year he went HWT but only weighs 225. A lot of people have been getting really confused about this due to the commentary
@@cmspooks Thanks for the clarification. That makes it seem less insane.
none of this guys seem to be nowhere near 285 Lbs....
Cassioppi wrestles at 250, Surber about 220.
2607? GREAT. CAN YOU FIND MORE MATCHES IN ALL SPORTS 300-400 YEARS INTO TH FUTURE? THANKS. TZZOGG THE CAVEMAN
Cassioppi, the juice is strong in this one
Idk bout y'all but it looked like Surber could have stacked him with that leg it looked like a dominant position and a pin imo...
cassioppi juiced up bro
Imagine being so jacked you still need to cut hardcore to hit 285lbs
Imagine being the coach of this kid and just pretending like you’re just the better coach
Looks like he could go pro.
Straight Mega Ton
2:39 - Ric Flair!
Where?
This kids shameless!!! Bacne is gnarly if I was a ref I’d feel terrible for orange lol
No way both these guys are 285
Big boys
285lbs are apparently as cut as 189lbs these days; crazy
That back acne man... he's definitely on some gear...
Iowa just dominates OsU🤼♂️🧟♂️🧟♂️🧟♂️🧟♂️
Lmao I thought the man was wearing black lipstick in the thumbnail.
Testing is obviously non existent but still has some god technique for his size.
Gear!
Dude in black is on gear. His delts had pin marks and that back acne.
what are pin marks?
@@Jeudaos Slight scarring and small blemish from injections.
Can someone tell me what the numbers in the grey box mean?
These guys should play football. They'd make DLs
not big enough
yea iowa is
there is no way these atheltes at these weights arent on gear. Ive genuinely been thinking recently most pros are on gear in almost all sports lol
How many “sheeeeeeeeeesh” did y’all count from the crowd
He does not look natty. Guys on the juice have a look and he’s got it.
dude in the black juiced out of his mind
sauced to the gills wit the IOWA
He's on that Brock Lesnar Iowa Corn Diet.
MPMD Derek should do a natty or not on this guy
All the gear
@6:29 Conner McGregor doppelganger!
Come naysayers. Cassioppi has a pretty darn good pedigree. 100-0 junior and senior year HS>.What's wrong w/him justing working his butt off. 2 younger sisters IL HS state champions. Rose C currently working out at Olympic Camp.
Full natty, brah
How tall are these guys to be 285 pounds fairly lean? 6'6"? Straight beasts.
They don’t weigh 285
Heavyweight means they can’t weigh over 285
That was a pin 2:13
How the F was that first scramble not 2 points??
what is the name of this wrestling please
What are they feedin this boy. Got Dam.
Those guys are 285??
Referring to comments on his weight gain - Not all kids, 17-22, develop early...I've known athletes in this age range that gained 40lbs-50lbs of good weight naturally between seasons. That's why so many boxers, wrestlers, etc., move up in weight class as they mature...especially if they start at 17-22. Many still are maturing. He may be on something, when probably 90% of ALL athletes between high school to college experiment with some sort of muscle gaining concoction - whether legal or illegal according to the NCAA. Most likely, even your favorite wrestler, boxer or MMA person has at one time probably taken something that's banned from their sport...baseball is notorious for that.
0:31 What is that falling?
Looks like a person to me
A win for the guy in orange in my opinion, considering the massive steroid induced size and strength advantage of the guy in black.
LMFAO all the whews!!!
The wrestling classes told me to cut but dear lord
How the fuck is this fair. Dude is clearly on the juice.
It’s disturbing the amount of people that don’t realize basically ALL of these collegiate athletes are on steroids ofc there are definitely people who aren’t but it’s just painfully obvious how little the public knows about the matter
Please tell me how I can transform my body like Tony.
By cutting weight like a wrestler would
@@mzzsoldier25yearsago65 dude stop saying he just 'cut weight' you can't gain 130 pounds of muscle in three years. His physique is very obviously not natural, he has a ton of acne on his shoulders and back. He is very obviously on gear.
steroids
@@dravenwag he been had muscle you total nutJob 😂🤡
@@dravenwag hater 🤡
idk this guy, but i think this physique is achievable naturally tbh. hes pretty fat rn so probably just got off a bulk. and his delts aren't popping as much as most people on gear
Look at the steroid backne
Hater
@@mzzsoldier25yearsago65 explain the back acne then
@@dravenwag hater
oh yea someone is on that shit!
Don’t know much bout wrestling- but ... it’s legal to kneel on the opponents head?
What's up with the woo boys in the crowd?
at first they were showing Cassioppi and saying Serber was 152 3 years ago... and I'm thinking they were talking about dude in black and i'm thinking NO WAY IN HELL....then realized it was the other guy and OK i can see that. but going from 152 to HULK HELLLLL NAH lol
danm look what good rice and brocolis can do ...
not only is cassioppi on juice, he is also a dirty wrestler. jesus! all those knees and punches he threw
High responder vs. low responder
Cassiopi has 2 losses
isn't that the girl that's beating all the swimming records?
Where’s USADA when you need them
These boys on all the Mexican supplements
Is the knee on back of neck at 9:03 legal?
Yes
juiced to the gills
4:10 lmfao
Is this an exhibition match or something? One guy looks like a normal, strong kid and the other one is on all kinds of chemicals.
Luke obviously has gained muscle but is carrying on him a lot more fat and I'm not sure how tall he is but depending he is probably somewhere around 210 to 230 depending and other dude is just a mass of meat, I guarantee neither of them are quite 285 but the Iowa guy is quite a lot closer
zitz everywhere, geez, cmon man.
Luke Surber vs Tony Trensioppi
what is this, a sport?
are you just alllowed to slam your knee into your opponents head?