Seneca: Of Anger Book 1 - (Audiobook & Summary)

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  • De Ira (On Anger) is a Latin work by Seneca (4 BC-65 AD). The work defines and explains anger within the context of Stoic philosophy, and offers therapeutic advice on how to prevent and control anger.
    (Note to TH-cam: This is my own recording, it is not taken from anywhere else. I retain the copyright)
    Translated by Aubrey Stewart
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    Notes:
    I: Anger is a type of madness.
    II: Anger has caused great harm to mankind
    III: Anger is unique to humans, animals do not possess true anger.
    IV: There are many forms of Anger. Irascibility is a general proneness to anger.
    V: Anger contradicts all of man’s benevolent qualities such as gentleness, affection and mutual assistance and is therefore not in accordance with nature.
    VI: Sometimes punishment is necessary. But the purpose of punishment is to correct or heal someone’s behaviour, not to harm them. Anger seeks only to harm so is no necessary for punishment.
    VII: You shouldn’t attempt to harness anger. Reason is only strong when separate from the passions. Once anger grows it will overpower reason and you will be a slave to it.
    VIII: “The best plan is to reject straightway the first incentives to anger.”
    IX: If reason is stronger than anger then you don’t need anger, if reason is weaker than anger then it will be overpowered by it. So either anger is useless or uncontrollable.
    X: If anger is more powerful than reason, the only way to control it is to set against it a more powerful vice such as fear. Wherefore reason is in the position of flying for aid to vices!
    XI: Anger does not benefit you in war. You want your attacks to be thought out and orderly, anger is prone to rashness.
    XII: You can choose to protect or avenge someone out of duty, you don’t need anger to do so. It is also more honourable since you’re doing it from deliberate judgement and not from impulse.
    The fact that on occasion anger may have done good does not make it a good, any more than a shipwreck benefiting someone makes shipwrecks good.
    XIII: Good qualities become better the stronger they are. Take anger to its extreme and it’s obviously not a good quality. Anger does not assist courage, but takes its place, you’ll note it’s often the weak who are the angriest.
    XIV: Good men should not hate bad men or acts. It is error that leads to bad acts, it makes no sense to hate error. Further you’d end up hating yourself in that case since you also err.
    XV: Hating a man because he errs is like hating a sick man because he is ill. When you punish someone, it should be for their good, not to satisfy your desires.
    XVI: Anger should play no part in punishment. Punishment should be reasoned and impartial.
    XVII: Anger is not a weapon because it cannot be put down at will.
    XVIII: Anger is a terrible judge. It is inconsistent, hasty and can invent crimes where none exist.
    XIX: Irascibility avoids truth because remaining angry feels good.
    Reason is the better judge. “no wise man punishes any one because he has sinned, but that he may sin no more”
    XX: Anger affects those of weak minds
    XXI: There is therefore nothing great or noble in anger
    #Stoicism #Seneca #INTPWorld

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  • @VoxStoica
    @VoxStoica  5 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    Buy the book: geni.us/AmazonOfAnger
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    • @marquesiam7514
      @marquesiam7514 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      If you're the one voicing all these I really appreciate your effort. Your pronunciation and emphasis helps it to be all the more digestible

    • @justinsmith2935
      @justinsmith2935 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Really appreciate your uploads! Thank you bro

    • @Godsstepdad
      @Godsstepdad 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thanks for your efforts mate, I really appreciate the way you narrate these works. Helped me alot.
      Ps dont stop plz
      Pps you should deserve way subs

  • @xekis
    @xekis 3 ปีที่แล้ว +60

    We need this more than ever. Children need to be taught this in school rather than to value weakness, anger, and offense.

    • @bobhope5114
      @bobhope5114 ปีที่แล้ว

      They will never allow the "little people" to be empowered. Not now...not ever.

    • @alainaaugust1932
      @alainaaugust1932 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Such teaching has begun. Schools increasingly teach Social and Emotional Learning founded on the principles of Emotional Intelligence, or EI. The understandings of Seneca, Marcus Aurelius, and Epictetus are restated in modern lessons on emotional Intelligence. An example is the concept of self-talk which follows Epictetus’ statement: “Man is not disturbed by events but by the view he takes of them.”

    • @floyddean-dp4wi
      @floyddean-dp4wi ปีที่แล้ว

      mercy upon the afflicter is cruelty to the innocent, to be called evil for doing good is a blessing.

  • @brydenmorton4634
    @brydenmorton4634 2 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    You are "the Morgan Freeman of philosophical narration..." thank you for recording these works. Your voice is like sweet audible chocolate to my ears and it makes it incredibly easy to focus on the messages.

  • @corygurnett6996
    @corygurnett6996 3 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Vox stoica thanks again for you labors of passion. I have ordered a bunch of Senecas works thanks to you. I'm sure you have inspired alot of people just excellent and forever grateful.

  • @janellegeronimo5281
    @janellegeronimo5281 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thanks Robin! It is such a joy knowing there are still good people who live in Stoicism and educate people

  • @IrishGrenade187
    @IrishGrenade187 3 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    Wonderful. More would benefit from these timeless words if we implemented them in public schools. These brilliant minds are always glossed over and given brief attention. Thank you, sir!

    • @pazz1038
      @pazz1038 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      There's a reason for that, though Socrates strictly speaking was pre the stoic era he was teaching the young people groundings in philosophy and free thought, and what did he get for it? Executed. Has not changed since, its not in the interests of the powerful to make a well informed populous.

  • @ly2268
    @ly2268 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I’m disappointed in myself, today I let anger get the better of me. I need to reflect and learn from this.

  • @thatonepianoguy_
    @thatonepianoguy_ ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Marcus Aurelius brought me to Stoicism, Epictetus laid my foundations, and Seneca kept me reading….

  • @bronsomccor2642
    @bronsomccor2642 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have anger issues and it's very easy for me to get angry and stressed so I'm trying to control it

    • @youngpro20
      @youngpro20 12 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Same here

  • @thatonepianoguy_
    @thatonepianoguy_ ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “Greatness rests upon goodness.” Love that

  • @kevlarkevin1840
    @kevlarkevin1840 5 ปีที่แล้ว +25

    Timeless knowledge. Thank you!

  • @Caesar_1415
    @Caesar_1415 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Training myself to grow and better manage my anger, thank you so much for the time to make these videos.

  • @TheGreatAgnostic
    @TheGreatAgnostic 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Thank you very much! A great service. I am striving to overcome anger and be a better father and man.

  • @Caesar_1415
    @Caesar_1415 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    This helps me understand anger so much better thank you!!

  • @whateverbabe
    @whateverbabe 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Thank you so much!
    Your voice is so soothing and you're like those professionals on audible :D

  • @knowthyself3422
    @knowthyself3422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I have been looking for this audio book for so long. Thanks for the good work you continue to do.

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  5 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Thanks terah nathan, parts 2 and 3 will follow soon.

    • @knowthyself3422
      @knowthyself3422 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      thank you once more

  • @thomascrownrg
    @thomascrownrg 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Elegantly simplistic and much needed..Thank you

  • @griffinhewlett7308
    @griffinhewlett7308 11 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    If drivers Ed was a 2 hour course this should half of it

  • @mmka5434
    @mmka5434 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hello Mr. Robin Homer,
    Thanks for providing us with such a great book. 🙏🏻

  • @RohanKumar-vx5sb
    @RohanKumar-vx5sb 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    thank you also for the summary in the description, Robin.. quite thoughtful.

  • @antiantipoda
    @antiantipoda 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for this introduction to Seneca.

  • @tomcremem8600
    @tomcremem8600 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really opened my mind up ,I needed to hear this, thank you

  • @pahriz
    @pahriz 5 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Thank yoj for making this available!

  • @archanadwibedy3287
    @archanadwibedy3287 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you...for your narration.

  • @notusum1else
    @notusum1else 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love this channel🤘🏼👍🏼

  • @hirschowitz1
    @hirschowitz1 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you for this......deserves careful listening.... Miss Jenny

    • @seanconnery9612
      @seanconnery9612 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I would have us be in synergies😏

  • @funkyboodah
    @funkyboodah 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this is so damn personal it hurts

  • @fraidoonw
    @fraidoonw 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    thanks, the book is read clearly and nicely, Seneca is one of the greatest!

  • @dymphokwaro5421
    @dymphokwaro5421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Priceless

  • @brendanehlermann7347
    @brendanehlermann7347 9 หลายเดือนก่อน

    as a teutonic I feel slighted, but in control

  • @rckli
    @rckli 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Yoooo wtf why was this video thumbs down? 😂
    Fkn TH-cam programming is shite - years ago, it also unsubscribed from this channel …I had to find it and sub to it again 😅

  • @robertburnett5561
    @robertburnett5561 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where today such wisdom?

  • @emmetcraig828
    @emmetcraig828 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What did Thomas Acquainis say?!

  • @charleshurstreinvention3959
    @charleshurstreinvention3959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Nice. And you do have to learn how to control anger. Becoming angry when needed is normal. But as I tell my own subscribers--staying in that state is not. Suffering from chronic anger causes a few problems. First it impedes your progress. By draining your energy that you should be using to advance yourself. Ever been angry all day at work then skipped that night workout? That's probably why. But it also isn't physically healthy and can lead to long term effects on the heart and doctors now think future cancer as well. Not to mention high blood pressure. There are two simple methods I tell my own people how to control anger. One you have with you--your breathing. You can breathe in a meditative state while walking down the street. You picture a coil slowly unwinding as if you were breathing through your stomach. Slow and in and out. Wind the coil and let it go slowly. It calms you down and if you do it every few hours for maybe ten reps then it keeps you calm. Second--reflect on what you are growing angry about. Is it really going to affect you even four months from now? You'll find many times it won't. So I would use these techniques to minimize anger so you can only progress forward. Hope that helps someone out there---Charles

  • @kellydittus4772
    @kellydittus4772 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    And when you have been wronged.
    And have taken time to calm .
    But the anger remains like a pillar because what has happened is wrong and you will not allow it to ever happen again.
    And that pillar will not budge until the truth is chiseled in its stone and everyone acknowledges it.
    Anger is only bad if you don't have the truth watching your back

    • @spajas8092
      @spajas8092 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Right. Anger is only useful when it’s pure and righteous. The reasoning behind most anger is weak or non existent. Someone who’s been rightfully been driven to wrath is a completely different display than a madman

  • @tsoukallos
    @tsoukallos 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Too many ads!

    • @VoxStoica
      @VoxStoica  2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks for letting me know. Ads on older videos are often auto inserted and sometimes they go a bit overboard. I've just deleted 90% of them.

  • @BarryArthur
    @BarryArthur 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "Let them hate, provided they fear me." I would not even be loved on such terms. Right, God?

  • @worstHorse12397
    @worstHorse12397 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    annoying commercials

  • @JavierBonillaC
    @JavierBonillaC 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Evolutionary anthropology has explained everything so much better in the last 20 years than philosophy in 2000

    • @simeonsimeonov5693
      @simeonsimeonov5693 4 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      It basically repeats what Seneca is saying here... only under the idea it's objective truth, whereas Seneca's teachings could be classified as opinion.
      And despite these two amazing sources people still don't really get it.

    • @MyRealName148
      @MyRealName148 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      We have steadily devolved over the last 20 years. Nothing now is as needed as a review of humanity. Computers don't make people better, they expose man's fickle, shallow and selfish nature.

  • @boogdanoof9451
    @boogdanoof9451 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    When you as a man are told how to breathe, think and feel, and your bank account is raped in the name of "global warming" and "equal rights" (meaning more socialism and feelings to rule your life) you will understand anger even better. For then it will not only be justifiable to have anger. You will be mad if you don't.